T2 IRC Log: 2007-08-06

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--- Log opened Mon Aug 06 00:00:02 2007
00:00 < hanhoo> you fill your hdd with their repos and it get's sluggish after a while
00:03 < shevy> archlinux is nice
00:03 < shevy> too much bitch-fighting in gentoo for my taste though, if not to say that some are quite arrogant :P
00:04 < hanhoo> oh well, i never bothered to get involved with any form of distro-politics....:)
00:05 < hanhoo> and oh well, they think they have the fastest, the most complete distro, the easiest, the geekiest, the most bleeding edge of them all....so yes, a bit of arrogance there without a doubt!
00:05 < shevy> well they somewhat fill the niche of more experienced users too :)
00:06 < shevy> i'd just wish there are more distributions like arch and gentoo, and less fedora/suse/ubuntu's ...
00:07 < hanhoo> well in the end it get's rather boring gentoo to compile your packages with every udpate
00:07 < hanhoo> you just once make a make.conf, then you do like emerge mypackage, it keeps the cpu busy for some time and there you have it
00:07 < mqueiros_> hanhoo: I recall some years ago that mandriva (mandrake) had KDE compiled that turned out to be faster than Gentoo's...
00:08 < hanhoo> yeah i'd bet...so much possibilities to tweak a system these days that you can't know them all
00:09 < mqueiros_> shevy: As for some one that used Mandriva for several years I was very satisfied to see Ubuntu... I remember thinking "All this only in one CD !"
00:09 < shevy> doesnt gentoo allow you to drop binaries once you compiled hanhoo?
00:09 < hanhoo> yup
00:09 < hanhoo> but there is always this "urge" to update once a week
00:10 < hanhoo> so you ended up compiling like a dozen packages etc
00:11 < shevy> hmm but then you could just reuse those binaries and only compile new if the new features warrant that :)
00:11 < shevy> or from kde 3.5.6 to 3.5.7 i.e.
00:11 < shevy> ah what am i talking about
00:11 < shevy> i *know* what the gentoo user ends up to ;)
00:11 < shevy> "my cpu is hot!"
00:11 < shevy> 215 of 1241 packages left
00:11 < hanhoo> well you wouldn't really know what new features there were unless you read all the changelogs and there are more exciting things to read...
00:12 < hanhoo> lol exactly shevy
00:12 < shevy> well i sometimes look at kde-apps to see look if new interesting apps are there :)
00:12 < hanhoo> with arch you get updates a lot too but at elast you don't have to compile them :)
00:12 < shevy> yeah
00:13 < hanhoo> ah, i am staying away from kde-apps.org...it's the dark side, too tempting, too easy...
00:13 < shevy> btw i know 2 gentoo guys that went back to gentoo after some time with arch because they miss the compiling and tweaking :)
00:13 < hanhoo> LOL
00:13 < hanhoo> trying to get more sober here and do as little tweaking as possible
00:13 < shevy> yeah
00:14 < hanhoo> arch comes close but there is some guy who says i must install t2....
00:14 < hanhoo> a freind of sepp, also from pt, very annoying dude
00:14 < shevy> pt? portugal?
00:14 < hanhoo> yeah
00:16 < hanhoo> okay, am off, got the installable cd so guess no more troubles with the scripts. Hope to be back here tomorrow :)
00:16 < hanhoo> enjoy the evening!
00:16 < shevy> cya
00:17 < hanhoo> and thanks for the help
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09:04 < rxr> re
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09:04 [@ChanServ] [ cyda ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz ] [ yokoy_]
09:04 [ cbrake ] [ DeeKey] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
09:04 [ CIA-8 ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
09:04 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
09:04 < DeeKey> morning!
09:06 < rxr> moin moin DeeKey
09:16 < DeeKey> i have a cvs checkout program with autogen.sh script. I need to run it to ggenerate makefile and .config.
09:16 < DeeKey> I get an error in T2. Its about comedi driver ..
09:17 < DeeKey> it says tat i need some additional tools installed.
09:17 < rxr> which tools ?
09:18 < DeeKey> cannot recal.. I will run the build now and report you
09:18 < rxr> maybe the Makefile.* and configure.* are incompatible with our current autoconf and automake versions
09:18 < rxr> astonigly the autoconf and automake authors change their systems in incompatible ways all the time
09:19 < rxr> this is also why we do not have the latest versions of autoconf and automake: because the packages in the T2 tree we build from CVS/SVN, ... do not build with the latest versions, ... :-(
09:20 < DeeKey> I had to build comedi from CVS. Othervise it is too old!
09:21 < DeeKey> it is a recommended way to install
09:23 < DeeKey> and besides.. It seems to me that busybox's init is not working or misconfigured..
09:23 < DeeKey> I was not able to run a bash promt using the init. I think i need to dig busybox a bit..
09:30 < DeeKey> about busybox: there is patch. Inside patch it said that it is for 1.6.0 version... Is it ok?
09:31 < DeeKey> current version is 1.6.1
09:31 < DeeKey> linux-rclocation.patch
09:34 < rxr> I think it still applies, right ?
09:34 < DeeKey> yes
09:35 < DeeKey> i mean, I can compile busybox with it...
09:45 < rxr> then it's probably fine :-)
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09:45 < DeeKey> i will change the version inside patch to 6.1
09:46 < rxr> no need
09:46 < DeeKey> ?
09:46 < rxr> the first part of the name is removed by patch -p1 anyway
09:46 < rxr> it is perfectly fine for the patch to indicate that it was made against 1.6.0
09:46 < rxr> in general patches only need a rediff if they fail to apply
09:46 < DeeKey> Was this patch sent to busybox developer?
09:46 < rxr> otherwise we would have a daily noise storm just chaning directory naming
09:47 < rxr> DeeKey: the patch is branding a-like
09:47 < DeeKey> i see.
09:47 < rxr> they like it in the top-level
09:47 < rxr> while we think having random junk in the top-level is not nice, and also against the FHS (Filesystem Hirarchy Standard)
09:48 < DeeKey> that is a nice argument to send them a patch :)
09:48 < rxr> you are free to do :-)
09:49 < DeeKey> i will send mail to them
09:51 < DeeKey> there are two others patches for 1.6.1 vesrion. Should they be included in T2 busybox pkg?
09:51 < DeeKey> http://busybox.net/downloads/fixes-1.6.1/ <http://busybox.net/downloads/fixes-1.6.1/>
09:52 < rxr> looks so
09:53 < DeeKey> that could be the problem why my init is not working. i will add the patches to rtai branc
10:07 < DeeKey> the comedi-driver problem is:
10:07 < DeeKey> eval ./autogen.sh
10:07 < DeeKey> ./autogen.sh: 23: autoreconf: not found
10:07 < DeeKey> there is no auto reconf in my ubuntu...
11:00 < CIA-8> susan * r25380 /trunk/package/scientific/graphviz/graphviz.desc: * updated graphviz (2.13 -> 2.14)
11:03 < CIA-8> rene * r25381 /trunk/package/base/hal/ (hal.conf hal.desc):
11:03 < CIA-8> * guided hal to pci and usb IDs while cross compiling
11:03 < CIA-8> * removed stay etal. Author line
11:05 < DeeKey> rxr: wrote a letter to busybox developer. do you want me to cc or to bcc you?
11:05 < rxr> cc sounds fine
11:07 < DeeKey> as a t2 t2-project org ?
11:07 < rxr> that you have in your addressbook
11:07 < DeeKey> ok
11:07 < rxr> I mostly use rene @ exactcode . de
11:08 < rxr> but t2-project.org works likewise
11:08 < rxr> btw. of course we setup @t2-project.org mail fwd. aliases up for everyone intersted :-)
11:09 < DeeKey> that would be great, because i dont like my personal email in the web page...
11:12 < rxr> ok - you should have got a Testmail
11:12 < DeeKey> yes, i got it
11:22 < CIA-8> susan * r25382 /trunk/package/graphic/gpl-ghostscript/gpl-ghostscript.desc: * updated gpl-ghostscript (8.57 -> 8.60)
11:38 < CIA-8> susan * r25383 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libwww/perl-libwww.desc: * updated perl-libwww (5.806 -> 5.808)
11:41 < CIA-8> susan * r25384 /trunk/package/perl/perl-xml-simple/perl-xml-simple.desc: * updated perl-xml-simple (2.16 -> 2.17)
11:41 < CIA-8> susan * r25385 /trunk/package/network/webmin/webmin.desc: * updated webmin (1.350 -> 1.360)
11:42 < CIA-8> susan * r25386 /trunk/package/gnome2/bluez-gnome/bluez-gnome.desc: * updated bluez-gnome (0.10 -> 0.13)
11:42 < CIA-8> susan * r25387 /trunk/package/network/whois/whois.desc: * updated whois (4.7.21 -> 4.7.22)
11:43 < CIA-8> susan * r25388 /trunk/package/develop/iverilog/iverilog.desc: * updated iverilog (0.8.4 -> 0.8.5)
11:46 < CIA-8> susan * r25389 /trunk/package/python/python-ldap/python-ldap.desc: * updated python-ldap (2.3 -> 2.3.1)
11:47 < CIA-8> susan * r25390 /trunk/package/network/ipw3945/ipw3945.desc: * updated ipw3945 (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
11:47 < CIA-8> susan * r25391 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.16.4 -> 0.16.5)
12:08 < CIA-8> rene * r25392 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.4.3 -> 2.4.5)
12:09 < CIA-8> rene * r25393 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (1.2 -> 1.3)
12:09 < CIA-8> rene * r25394 /trunk/package/network/pv/pv.desc: * updated pv (0.9.9 -> 1.0.1)
12:10 < CIA-8> denisk * r25395 /branches/rtai/package/base/busybox/ (busybox-1.6.1-adduser.patch busybox-1.6.1-init.patch): * added patches from the busybox project
12:54 < rxr> lunch - cu
12:54 < DeeKey> cu
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13:24 < sepp> moin :)
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14:27 < pdinoto> hi t2ers
14:27 < DeeKey> hi
14:46 < pdinoto> Does anybody out there knows which script
14:46 < pdinoto> outputs this?
14:46 < pdinoto> Finishing build.
14:46 < pdinoto> -> Creating output image ...
14:46 < pdinoto> ?
14:46 < DeeKey> no
14:47 < pdinoto> My target builds ok, but ends with
14:47 < pdinoto> cp: cannot stat `/root/t2-7.0-svn/build/micro1-7.0-trunk-micro-x86-i486/boot/initrd-2.6.22.1-dist.img': No such file or directory
14:48 < pdinoto> and cannot follow the code to find which basic package I missed.
14:48 < pdinoto> (mkinitrd is there, built for level 1 without errors)
14:49 < DeeKey> try to search for the pattern "Finishing building" in the whole T2
14:50 < rxr> re
14:50 < DeeKey> hi
14:50 < pdinoto> I did it inside ./scripts/ without that string.
14:50 < pdinoto> will try the complete t2 build dir...
14:51 < pdinoto> hi rxr
14:52 < rxr> pdinoto: maybe there was an error in a third party kernel module
14:52 < rxr> I think that could result in no initrd beeing created
14:54 < pdinoto> But 5-linux26.log is there...
14:54 < pdinoto> and have no 3rd party modules selected.
14:55 < rxr> does the initrd file exist ?
14:55 < rxr> or does another one exist ?
14:55 < rxr> (differently named )
14:55 < pdinoto> no.
14:56 < pdinoto> that is why I found mkinitrd was deselected
14:56 < pdinoto> and I added it to build level 1.
14:56 < pdinoto> perhaps I have to force something, since I added it later?
14:57 < rxr> did you added mkinitrd when the 5-linux26 was already built ?
14:57 < pdinoto> yep.
15:00 < rxr> mkinitrd is just the provider to build the initrd
15:00 < rxr> the initrd is built during the linux26 compilation
15:01 < rxr> you can just rebuild linux26 with Build-Target -cfg your-cfg -job 5-linux26
15:07 < pdinoto> ok!
15:08 < pdinoto> I was checking 5-linux26.log and found no error about lack of mkinitrd script.
15:08 < pdinoto> will rebuild it now.
15:09 < pdinoto> oh, one question:
15:09 < pdinoto> is the final rootfs available somewhere in the build directory,
15:09 < pdinoto> or it is built on the fly based on flists?
15:10 < rxr> well the chroot sandbox is at build/config-id-uuid-.../
15:10 < rxr> what kind of output do you build, livecd ?
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15:30 < yokoy> hi
15:32 < yokoy> just ordered a new pc to speed up compiling
15:35 < mqueiros_> yokoy: Specifications of the new PC ? :)
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15:45 < pdinoto> rxr: yes, livecd (I started my target from rescue)
15:49 < rxr> livecd rootfs is constructed in build/.../TOOLCHAIN/rootfs IIRC
15:49 < rxr> it a little filtered before compressing
15:54 < pdinoto> filtered by Create-ISO, right?
16:00 < yokoy> mqueiros_: oh, midi fast. amd x2 be-2350 (speed equal to 4000+, but only 45 Watts)
16:00 < yokoy> mqueiros_: but pincompatibel to the upcomming quadcores...
16:03 < yokoy> mqueiros_: till now I am working on my 6 years old athlon xp 1800+. That is like meditation .-)
16:05 < rxr> pdinoto: no filtered by target/generic/share/livecd/build_stage2.sh or so
16:05 < rxr> target/share/livecd/build_image.sh
16:05 < rxr> but just a little IIRC
16:06 < rxr> in the future the filtering (e.g. skip .la, .a, .h, etc.) will be configurable
16:06 < rxr> yokoy: yeah - have a Athlon-XP 2500+ in the corner as well
16:06 < rxr> I feal your pain
16:06 < rxr> I'm waiting for the Sun T2 and AMD Barcelona to get a new T2 reference builder
16:07 < rxr> but I got some other nice hardware as well, e.g. my main work MacBook is faster, and so is the dual G5 :-)
16:12 < DeeKey> I wonder is it possible to make a distributive compiling with t2?
16:12 < yokoy> rxr: yes, I am waitung for the AMD Barcelona, too. As I wrote, it es pincompatibel with the X2. Temporary, the X2 is OK.
16:13 < DeeKey> I mean use more then one PC to prepare the build!
16:13 < yokoy> DeeKey: you mean distcc?
16:13 < DeeKey> what is it?
16:14 < DeeKey> http://distcc.samba.org/ is it?
16:14 < yokoy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/distcc
16:16 < yokoy> ah, yes, as i remember, it is hosted at samba
16:16 < yokoy> comma battle ,,,
16:18 < DeeKey> yeh, smth like it...
16:25 < yokoy> rxr: do you compile with distcc? I tried a few month ago but do not manage it.
16:25 < DeeKey> ha nice 60 seconds instruction: http://distcc.samba.org/
16:29 < DeeKey> hmm using distcc could be very helpful!
16:30 < DeeKey> if it could be used with T2!
16:32 < mqueiros_> yokoy: Nice... :) are you going to use SATA ? I wonder how SCSI disks will influence the build... anyone ?
16:33 < DeeKey> mqueiros ? what do you mean?
16:35 < mqueiros_> deekey... I was thinking if having SCSI disks will turn the build faster... or at least will make the investment worth it ?
16:37 < DeeKey> hahha OF course it will, but this is to my mind does not wort it!
16:38 < mqueiros_> deekey: they are way to expensive...
16:38 < DeeKey> We were discussing the distcc. It can parallely build on numerous machines http://distcc.samba.org/
16:39 < DeeKey> the other question is it possible to use T2 with distcc
16:39 < cyda> lol check out linus ranting about gnome
16:39 < cyda> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2007-February/001127.html
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16:45 < kic-> ls
16:45 < kic-> re
16:45 < kic-> oops
16:48 < mqueiros_> Got an error building T2... sudo-1.6.9p2.tar.gz seems missing from http://osiris.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/7.0/s/
16:49 < rxr> not available on the original site?
16:49 < rxr> the T2 mirros are "only" updated like twice a day or so
16:50 < mqueiros_> there is sudo-1.6.9p3.tar.bz2...
16:51 < rxr> ouhm
16:51 < rxr> we ahve p3 in t2/trunk already
16:51 < rxr> svn up package/*/sudo :-)
16:53 < mqueiros_> ok... should I wait for the build to go till the end ? Or should I interrupt it now ?
16:54 < rxr> well - interrupt now
16:54 < rxr> for sudo it is not that important
16:54 < rxr> but for other packages where you might have a simillar situation in the future it is always better to have stuff buliding in initially
16:55 < rxr> e.g. more stuff might fail when it's a dependency for them
16:55 < rxr> (as I said for sudo it is not that important)
16:55 < mqueiros_> ok, I understant... just wanted to make sure... :)
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17:17 < kic-> rene, got the email this morning, thanks for that
17:18 < kic-> made my day, last week was so hellish, was glad to see some light from your email this morning
17:18 < kic-> :D
17:29 < rxr> :-)
18:05 < kic-> anyone know anything about axTLS
18:05 < rxr> packaged it once for T2
18:05 < kic-> specifically the axssl s_client command
18:05 < rxr> I do not know much more ...
18:05 < kic-> heh
18:05 < kic-> well, apparently we're running it on the ARM platform
18:06 < kic-> and just now finding out, that we're using it to retrieve remote updates
18:06 < kic-> :D
18:06 < kic-> however
18:06 < kic-> its just a small embedded web browser that supports SSL
18:06 < kic-> so when using it something like: axssl s_client -c [cert file] -k [key file] https://address/file.gz
18:06 < kic-> it displays to screen
18:06 < kic-> well
18:06 < kic-> not .gz extensions
18:07 < kic-> because of web servers httpd.conf and x-application
18:07 < kic-> but .txt and other extensions that are unknown
18:07 < kic-> im trying to find a way or switch to use, that will make it download file, rather than browse and display file
18:08 < kic-> only 1 website exists it seems on the internet though, abou tit
18:08 < rxr> redirection does not work?
18:08 < rxr> like > file
18:08 < kic-> and its documentation is scarce
18:08 < kic-> :D
18:08 < rxr> or | program ?
18:08 < kic-> yeah, redirection sort of works
18:08 < kic-> as long as the file is actually displayed
18:08 < rxr> may it uses isatty() to guess whether to display or not
18:08 < kic-> just seems like a clunky way of doing it
18:09 < kic-> know of any other embedded type ssl enabled file fetching binaries?
18:09 < rxr> there are also xyssl and matrixssl
18:09 < rxr> but we did not use them much yet
18:09 < kic-> hrm
18:09 < rxr> kic-: what is the problem with s_client writing files?
18:10 < rxr> does it mess them up?
18:10 < kic-> not really
18:10 < kic-> its just that we have multiple files that we need to retrieve
18:10 < kic-> some .txt
18:10 < kic-> some .gz
18:10 < kic-> some .tgz
18:10 < kic-> different sizes
18:10 < kic-> etc
18:11 < kic-> would be much easier to be able to use something similar to wget
18:11 < kic-> which does come with busybox
18:11 < kic-> however i believe that version does not support SSL
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18:17 [ cbrake ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ]
18:17 [ CIA-8 ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
18:17 [ cyda ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin ] [ sepp_ ] [ yokoy ]
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18:29 < renderfil> anyone know if the Atmel STK1000 has a speaker or audio out?
18:39 < rxr> audio out
18:39 < rxr> AC97 codec from Atmel
18:39 < rxr> sounds quite good
18:39 < rxr> but I did not meassure it's noise or THR etc.
18:39 < rxr> but it really sounded good on my HiFI AMP and I'm picky :_)
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19:16 < renderfil> rxr, thanks man that is awesome for me, I want to load some synthesis languages on that thing and hjave some fun
19:16 < renderfil> does it have a dedicated audio out port?
19:18 < renderfil> like 1/8"?
20:00 < rxr> a tiny walkman / iPod alike plug, yes
20:00 < rxr> 3,5mm it is
20:00 < rxr> would have to calc to give you the inches .-)
20:01 < renderfil> hehe, yeah 1/8"
20:01 < rxr> http://www.google.com/search?q=3.5mm+in+inch&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
20:02 < renderfil> seems there is a DAC inside of the AVR32 and an external one which powers the speaker on the board
20:02 < renderfil> http://www.avrfreaks.net/wiki/index.php/Documentation:STK1000/Audio_system%2C_an_overview
20:02 < rxr> the speaker on the boards has not much power
20:02 < renderfil> yeah, which is why I need a jack
20:02 < renderfil> like the one you say is on there
20:02 < renderfil> PERFECT
20:03 < renderfil> although, I'd like to get pure digital audio off of the thing
20:03 < renderfil> might have to design a board for that
20:03 < rxr> well - connect a SPDIF transmitter to the AC97 lines, ...
20:07 < rxr> so - cu all
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20:07 [ cbrake ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
20:07 [ CIA-8 ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto ] [ sepp_ ] [ yokoy ]
20:07 [ cyda ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin ] [ Stelz ]
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21:16 < DeeKe1> hello!
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21:21 < sepp_> hello!
21:38 < LMJ> moin
21:39 < sepp_> moin
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21:55 < CIA-8> denisk * r25396 /branches/rtai/package/base/autoconf/autoconf.desc: * autoconf 2.59->2.61
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22:55 < yokoy> nabend
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22:56 < sepp_> nabend yokoy
22:56 < yokoy> do anybody know if pdksh # Public domain Korn shell is important for building targets?
22:58 < yokoy> I think the bash is enough?
22:58 < Ragnarin> it's used in the initrd I think
22:59 < Ragnarin> so: yes
22:59 < yokoy> ok, thx for information
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