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T2 IRC Log: 2006-10-24

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--- Log opened Tue Oct 24 00:00:07 2006
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01:20 < emte> is preconfig.in still used/needed for an image? i am not seeing any in the default targets
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08:53 < rxr> re
09:06 < emte> moo
09:07 < rxr> hi emte
09:08 < emte> how goes?
09:08 < rxr> oh fine fine - just a little bit too much todo on my desk ...
09:09 < emte> me too
09:09 < emte> two more reports to finish and two labs to prep for
09:26 < CIA-9> rene * r20417 /trunk/package/filesystem/cramfsswap/cramfsswap.desc: * updated cramfsswap (1.1 -> 1.2)
09:26 < rxr> yeah - I work more for my own company than showing presense in the uni ...
09:27 < emte> i should do that as well ... but the info is all good stuff
09:28 < rxr> yeah the lack of news is what is holding me up to waste more time there ...
09:30 < emte> mine is more in trying to find and figure out how to use appropreate optocouplers
09:52 < CIA-9> rene * r20418 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/ (cpio.desc no-mt-man.patch): * updated cpio (2.6 -> 2.7)
09:52 < sepp> moin :)
09:53 < rxr> mon sepp
09:54 < sepp> mon rxr ,-)
09:56 < rxr> +i
09:56 < rxr> :-)
09:57 < CIA-9> rene * r20419 /trunk/package/base/pciutils/ (pciutils.conf pciutils.desc):
09:57 < CIA-9> * improved pciutils to install it's headers and libs as required for
09:57 < CIA-9> some non-standard packages such as vbetool and s2ram ...
09:57 < CIA-9> * modernized the .conf and cleaned some spacing on-the-way
10:01 < CIA-9> rene * r20420 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.conf:
10:01 < CIA-9> * removed obsolete -O* removal in qemu
10:01 < CIA-9> * translate pemtium-m to pentium3 optmiization just for the qemu
10:01 < CIA-9> package as pentium-m yields unsupported instructions
10:01 < CIA-9> * added some comments on-the-way
10:02 < sepp> ohh, is qemu working again?
10:03 < rxr> sepp: yep updated and fixed it yesterday
10:04 < sepp> great :)
10:04 < rxr> definetly .-)
10:04 < rxr> but the qvm86 is disabled for now
10:04 < rxr> but the upstream project appears to be sort of dead and it never perfectly worked for me ...
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10:07 < CIA-9> rene * r20421 /trunk/package/develop/cogito/cogito.desc: * updated cogito (0.18 -> 0.18.1)
10:10 < CIA-9> rene * r20422 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.4.3.1 -> 1.4.3.2)
10:36 < sepp> MPlayer 1.0rc1: "Codename intentionally left blank"
10:38 < rxr> yeah
10:42 < rxr> I think we keep our svn checkouts of ffmpeg and mplayer due to the overlong release cycles
10:42 < rxr> so we can quickly use another revision/date or tag ...
10:43 < sepp> sure, since ffmpeg guys never release anythign ...
10:45 < CIA-9> aldas * r20423 /branches/6.0/package/python/python/CVE-2006-4980.patch: * security update: added python/CVE-2006-4980.patch in branch/6.0
10:47 < rxr> wow: http://zrusin.blogspot.com/2006/10/benchmarks.html
10:51 < rxr> we need a package for that http://www.amanith.org/blog/index.php
10:52 * Stelz is back (gone 11:42:43)
10:54 < rxr> hi Stelz
10:54 < Stelz> re, rxr ;-)
10:55 < sepp> wb Stelz
10:56 < Stelz> thanks, sepp :) nice to cu
10:57 < Stelz> uhm, fine
10:57 < Stelz> firefox 2.0 released
10:57 < Stelz> and its sources.. ;-)
10:58 < rxr> yeah - update already on my side
10:58 < CIA-9> rene * r20424 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (2.0rc3 -> 2.0)
10:58 < Stelz> hehe, great!
11:11 < CIA-9> rene * r20425 /trunk/package/network/asterisk-addons/asterisk-addons.desc: * updated asterisk-addons (1.2.2 -> 1.2.5)
11:18 < CIA-9> rene * r20426 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (applesmc.patch mactel.patch):
11:18 < CIA-9> * imported some more linux26/mactel patches, a MacBook now survices a
11:18 < CIA-9> suspend to ram cycle more often than not!
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11:26 < CIA-9> aldas * r20427 /branches/6.0/package/gnome14/gnome-libs14/gnome-libs14.desc: * marked gnome-libs14 as NOPARALLEL in branch/6.0
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11:29 [Users #t2]
11:29 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ kensai] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
11:29 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ sepp ] [ zod ]
11:29 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ mtr ] [ Stelz]
11:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
11:33 < CIA-9> rene * r20428 /trunk/package/graphic/qingy/ (qingy.cache qingy.desc): * updated qingy (0.6.0 -> 0.9.2), improved the .desc and added the .cache
11:38 < CIA-9> rene * r20429 /trunk/package/graphic/qingy/compile.patch: * added the qingy/compile.patch I just forgot to add, oops
11:41 < rxr> Baldzius: with the latest udev I changed to use modprobe for module loading
11:42 < rxr> however this now avoids the blacklist and also since noew more modules are matched a lot of junk is loaded
11:42 < rxr> e.g. evbug and co
11:42 < rxr> I think we should use still use hotplug++ for loading and thus use the blacklist
11:42 < rxr> Baldzius: any vote ?
11:46 < mtr> rxr: +1 for hotplug++ usage in initrd
11:48 < mtr> btw. there is a hotplug++ competitor: http://isteve.depressant.org/hotplug2/
11:49 < rxr> and "hotplug-ng"
11:49 < Baldzius> blacklist is good but haven't tried it yet
11:52 < Baldzius> there's a need on my xeon box to load one scsi driver on init rather than in initrd, it doesn't load firmware otherwise
11:52 < CIA-9> rene * r20430 /trunk/package/base/coreutils/ (4 files):
11:52 < CIA-9> * updated coreutils (5.2.1 -> 6.4), removed obsolete patch,
11:52 < CIA-9> implemented skipping su via a make variable, without big patch
11:52 < CIA-9> and simplified the usr/bin bin loop (should use the install
11:52 < CIA-9> wrapper anyway!)
11:53 < rxr> Baldzius: hm - oh
11:53 < CIA-9> rene * r20431 /trunk/package/base/binutils/binutils.desc: * updated binutils (2.17.50.0.5 -> 2.17.50.0.6)
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12:16 < CIA-9> rene * r20432 /trunk/package/base/vbetool/ (. compile.patch vbetool.cache vbetool.desc): * added vbetool (0.7-1) - A tool to run real-mode video BIOS code to alter hardware state
12:17 < CIA-9> rene * r20433 /trunk/package/base/suspend/ (. compile.patch suspend.cache suspend.conf suspend.desc): * added suspend (2006-10-22) - Some userland tools to suspend a Linux system
12:17 < rxr> 2514 packages in tree
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15:17 [Users #t2]
15:17 [@ChanServ] [ Baldzius] [ emte] [ mtr] [ sepp_] [ valentin]
15:17 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr] [ Stelz] [ zod ]
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17:04 -!- trb7 [n=xxxxxxxx@bl5-233-187.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #t2
17:04 < trb7> hi
17:04 < rxr> hi
17:04 < trb7> hi :)
17:07 < trb7> some info into what t2 will support
17:07 < trb7> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_color_management
17:08 < Stelz> hello, trb7 ! ;-)
17:08 < trb7> hi Stelz ;)
17:08 < Stelz> hehe, trb7
17:08 < Stelz> List of Linux colormanaged applications
17:09 < Stelz> what about inkscape?
17:09 < trb7> i was reading some info on that
17:09 < trb7> it supports lcms, but
17:09 < trb7> they don't mention how do you specify the ICC profile
17:09 < trb7> in their wiki, they mention SVG 1.2
17:09 < trb7> and the capability to embed the ICC profile in a tag
17:09 < trb7> at the beginning of the SVG file
17:09 < trb7> it seem this is work in progress
17:09 < Stelz> ah.. i see
17:10 < trb7> in any case, it builds with the new location for lcms, argyll, etc... (/opt/color)
17:10 < trb7> same for scribus
17:10 < trb7> works perfectly
17:10 < trb7> gimp 2.2 is another story, color management was pooched in 2.2
17:10 < trb7> altough it has preliminary ICC support
17:10 < trb7> it behaves very very badly
17:10 < Stelz> CMS available from version 2.3 and on.
17:10 < trb7> so they decided to shift that to 2.4
17:11 < trb7> yes exactly
17:11 < Stelz> hm.. gimp 2.4 is coming soon?
17:11 < trb7> the preliminary support is in 2.2 however, but it behaves so badly that i decided to pass --without-lcms
17:11 < trb7> to avoid the crashes if you try to load an ICC profile
17:11 < trb7> and this is a gimp related issue, not lcms or related to the lcms or icc profiles location
17:11 < trb7> gimp 2.4, i have no idea, but 2.3.12 already has 3 google's SoC projects in cvs
17:12 < trb7> and a 4th, SVG support for vector layers, was so big, that they made a cvs tree just for it
17:12 < trb7> for post-2.4
17:12 < trb7> but healing brush, perspective cloning, are already in 2.3.12
17:12 < trb7> and ruby-fu should be out soon, as well as full jpeg2000
17:12 < Stelz> hm...
17:13 < trb7> was checking krita, i don't have kde
17:13 < trb7> was checking the conf to pass the lcms location
17:13 < trb7> perhaps someone with kde and koffice built, could try it later
17:13 < trb7> i don't see any reasons why it shouldn't work however
17:13 < Stelz> dunno.. never liked kde..
17:13 < trb7> same thing here
17:13 < trb7> bloatware
17:13 < trb7> :)
17:15 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/79958
17:15 < rxr> ^- Apple MacBook Pro with Core 2 Duo
17:34 < trb7> later everyone ;)
17:34 < Stelz> cu trb7
17:34 < trb7> cu Stelz ;)
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17:42 < rxr> Stelz: just curious what windowing environment do you use ?
17:43 < sepp_> *box :)
17:43 * Stelz is on fluxbox since 2002 and forever
17:43 < Stelz> :)
17:43 < sepp_> saw that on some Stelz screenshot ,)
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17:43 < Stelz> ;-)
17:44 < rxr> ah yes, I remeber too
17:44 < rxr> the KDE comment made my curious .-=
17:44 < Stelz> hmm
17:44 < Stelz> svn: PROPFIND of '/t2/trunk': could not connect to server (https://svn.exactcode.de)
17:45 < rxr> # svn up
17:45 < rxr> At revision 20433.
17:45 < Stelz> seems to be my hdd/proc is very busy
17:45 < Stelz> compiling fx 2.0
17:48 < CIA-9> aldas * r20434 /trunk/package/multimedia/openlibraries/ (openlibraries.cache openlibraries.desc):
17:48 < CIA-9> * updated openlibraries (0.2.0 -> 0.3.0)
17:48 < CIA-9> * added missing cache file
18:03 < CIA-9> rene * r20435 /trunk/package/ (81 files in 81 dirs): * added missing cache files from the latest reference build
18:16 < CIA-9> rene * r20437 /branches/6.0/scripts/create-cache.sh:
18:16 < CIA-9> * removed ancient scripts/create-cache.sh that is not used for anything
18:16 < CIA-9> and has not much functionality at all
18:16 < rxr> err - damn - that should have gone to trunk first - sigh
18:17 < CIA-9> rene * r20438 /trunk/scripts/create-cache.sh:
18:17 < CIA-9> * merged r20437 from branches/6.0: removed ancient scripts/create-cache.sh
18:17 < CIA-9> that is not used for anything and has not much functionality at all
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18:28 < misl> hi folks
18:28 < Stelz> hi misl
18:28 < misl> hi Stelz
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18:40 < rxr> hi misl
18:52 < CIA-9> aldas * r20439 /branches/6.0/package/multimedia/openlibraries/openlibraries.desc:
18:52 < CIA-9> * merged r20434 from trunk to branches/6.0:
18:52 < CIA-9> updated openlibraries (0.2.0 -> 0.3.0)
18:58 < rxr> ok - cu
19:07 < Stelz> cu rxr
19:09 < LMJ> moin moin
19:30 < Stelz> moin moin moin moin LMJ
19:32 < LMJ> moin moin moin sepp
19:33 < LMJ> Stelz ** ;)
19:33 < CIA-9> sebastian * r20440 /trunk/package/multimedia/jahshaka/openlib-include.patch: * removed obsolete openlib-include patch from jahshaka
20:52 < sepp> Baldzius: have you tried building jahshaka with openlibraries 0.3 on 6.0, i guess it needs some patch because they moved the headers around ...
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