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05:32 < CIA-4> aldas * r17966 /trunk/package/develop/doxygen/ (doxygen.desc gcc41.patch): 
05:32 < CIA-4> * updated doxygen (1.4.6 -> 1.4.7)
05:32 < CIA-4> * removed gcc41.patch - obsolete
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06:01 < CIA-4> aldas * r17967 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.desc: * updated gdm (2.14.8 -> 2.14.9)
06:01 < CIA-4> aldas * r17968 /trunk/package/gnome2/gstreamer/gstreamer.desc: * updated gstreamer (0.10.7 -> 0.10.8)
06:01 < CIA-4> aldas * r17969 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.8.18 -> 2.8.19)
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06:32 < CIA-4> aldas * r17970 /branches/2.2/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.desc: 
06:32 < CIA-4> * merged r17967 from trunk to branches/2.2:
06:32 < CIA-4>  updated gdm (2.14.8 -> 2.14.9)
06:33 < CIA-4> aldas * r17971 /branches/2.2/package/gnome2/gstreamer/gstreamer.desc: 
06:33 < CIA-4> * merged r17968 from trunk to branches/2.2:
06:33 < CIA-4>  updated gstreamer (0.10.7 -> 0.10.8)
06:34 < CIA-4> aldas * r17972 /branches/2.2/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: 
06:34 < CIA-4> * merged r17969 from trunk to branches/2.2:
06:34 < CIA-4>  updated gtk+ (2.8.18 -> 2.8.19)
06:39 < rxr> moin Baldzius 
06:39 < Baldzius> hi rxr
06:40 < Baldzius> why http://www.t2-project.org/packages/ isn't up to date?
06:42 < rxr> I had to adapt it when I added a 3rd master mirror directory
06:42 < rxr> maybe I made a typo
06:42 < rxr> I take a look
06:43 < CIA-4> aldas * r17973 /branches/2.2/package/mail/exim/db4.patch: 
06:43 < CIA-4> * merged r17907 from trunk to branches/2.2:
06:43 < CIA-4>  fixed exim for db4 only systems
06:47 < rxr> Baldzius: thanks for doing this work ,-)
06:47 < Baldzius> :)
06:48 < CIA-4> rene * r17974 /trunk/scripts/Download: * fixed download rate output
06:49 < rxr> so the sparc minimal-xorg finished
06:49 < rxr> only a few packages failed, and most of them "just" because mesa did not build ...
06:50 < rxr> but I'll go hunt getting the CD booting first and maybe there will be the first installable T2 SPARC ISO ever ...
06:50 < rxr> ... this evening
06:51 < rxr> (and I have to pray the gcc-4.1 built sparc kernel actually boots ,-)
06:51 < Baldzius> :)
06:54 < Baldzius> so it's too late to merge _system_ packages related commits ?
06:54 < Baldzius> like "file"
06:55 < rxr> no, file is quite uncritical anyway
06:55 < rxr> but please look at the whole log, e.g. file needs a priority tweak to build after zlib
06:55 < rxr> those two changes got committed in single revisions because that was noticed later on
06:56 < rxr> best would be co merge that as changeset into stable
07:01 < Baldzius> hm but i can find only 1 changeset
07:01 < Baldzius> r17909	* fixed file to build after zlib, as required for the latest version
07:02 < Baldzius> where's the second?
07:02 < misl> morning all
07:02 < Baldzius> hi misl
07:05 < CIA-4> aldas * r17975 /branches/2.2/package/network/curl/curl.desc: 
07:05 < CIA-4> * merged r17905 from trunk to branches/2.2:
07:05 < CIA-4>  updated curl (7.15.3 -> 7.15.4)
07:06 < rxr> Baldzius: the update + that build fix
07:07 < Baldzius> rxr: but update was long time ago
07:07 < Baldzius> r15972 | rene | 2006-03-17 21:14:14 +0000 (Fri, 17 Mar 2006) | 2 lines
07:08 < Baldzius>         * updated file (4.16 -> 4.17)
07:10 < rxr> Baldzius: oh
07:13 < CIA-4> aldas * r17976 /branches/2.2/package/develop/apr-util/apr-util.conf: 
07:13 < CIA-4> * merged r17912 from trunk to branches/2.2:
07:13 < CIA-4>  fixed apr-util to test the pkgprefix before use
07:17 < CIA-4> aldas * r17977 /branches/2.2/package/base/file/file.desc: 
07:17 < CIA-4> * merged r17909 from trunk to branches/2.2:
07:17 < CIA-4>  fixed file to build after zlib, as required for the latest
07:17 < CIA-4>  version
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08:54 < CIA-4> aldas * r17978 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+-pkg.conf: 
08:54 < CIA-4> * added workaround to gtk+/gtk+-pkg.conf to remove file
08:54 < CIA-4>  "icon-theme.cache" from some gnome2's packages flist
08:54 < CIA-4>  (gtk-update-icon-cache issue).
09:25 < CIA-4> susan * r17979 /trunk/package/gnome2/gconfmm/gconfmm.desc: * updated gconfmm (2.14.0 -> 2.14.2)
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09:38 < CIA-4> susan * r17980 /trunk/package/gnome2/gmime/gmime.desc: * updated gmime (2.2.1 -> 2.2.2)
09:44 < CIA-4> susan * r17981 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.6.0 -> 0.6.1)
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09:52 < morfoh> moin
09:52 < mnemoc> moin morfoh!
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12:47 < CIA-4> aldas * r17985 /trunk/package/network/amule/amule.desc: 
12:47 < CIA-4> * updated amule (2.1.2 -> 2.1.3)
12:47 < CIA-4> * changed download url to sourceforge
12:48 < rxr> in the case someone notices mesa breakage on trunk do dprint symbol clash with latest glibc, I already have a patch in testing (though on the 270MHz sparc it takes a while to get thru ...)
12:55 < CIA-4> susan * r17982 /trunk/package/gnome2/gossip/gossip.desc: * updated gossip (0.11.1 -> 0.11.2)
13:01 < karasz> moin moin
13:06 < tdi> moin moin moin
13:16 < mnemoc> moin moin moin moin
13:16 < tdi> what's up 
13:17 < CIA-4> rene * r17983 /trunk/architecture/sparc/boot/ (boot.in boot.msg): 
13:17 < CIA-4> * fixed the new architecture/sparc/boot code to actually work and
13:17 < CIA-4>  improved the boot message on the way
13:19 < CIA-4> rene * r17984 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/kernel.conf.m4: 
13:19 < CIA-4> * updated sparc64/kernel.conf.m4, especially for the new defconf-less kernel
13:19 < CIA-4>  .config in T2
13:19 < CIA-4> rene * r17986 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/parse-config: 
13:19 < CIA-4> * updated sparc64 parse-config (which controls what to build 32 and 64 bit)
13:19 < CIA-4>  mostly ducumentational as well as fixing gdb to actually build
13:25 < mnemoc> tdi: tired and with a nice headache, and you?
13:25 < tdi> same
13:25 < tdi> mnemoc: u use jabber?
13:26 < mnemoc> nope
13:26 < tdi> that is no good
14:03 < CIA-4> jsaw * r17987 /trunk/package/graphic/ghostscript/ (ghostscript.conf ghostscript.desc glibc2.2.patch): 
14:03 < CIA-4> * updated ghostscript (8.15.1 -> 8.15.2)
14:03 < CIA-4> * remove pdf_sec (part of gs packages since
14:03 < CIA-4>  quite some time according to homepage)
14:42 < CIA-4> rene * r17988 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/glibc-2.4.patch: * fixed mesa for glibc-2.4, testbuilt on sparc64
14:59 < CIA-4> rene * r17989 /trunk/package/xorg/ (7 files in 7 dirs): 
14:59 < CIA-4> * basic I and T tag as well as individual Download location for
14:59 < CIA-4>  the xf86-video-sun* xorg driver
15:01 < rxr> CIA is quite laggy today ...
15:01 < rxr> at least better than nothing ...
15:12 < CIA-4> rene * r17990 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-chips/xf86-video-chips.desc: 
15:12 < CIA-4> * marked xf86-video-chips to not be useful for sparc and sparc64
15:12 < CIA-4>  (use of iperm ...)
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17:05 < CIA-4> rene * r17993 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/10-minimal-xorg.in: 
17:05 < CIA-4> * removed openmotif from the 10-minimal-xorg, it does not build in that
17:05 < CIA-4>  minimal configuration and it is not really worth adding more
17:06 < mnemoc> lesstif should be
17:07 < CIA-4> rene * r17994 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/kernel.conf.m4: * more sparc64 configs to bring the default T2 kernel to real usefulness
17:07 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
17:10 < rxr> if you mean you want lesstif in that set, it already is
17:10 < mnemoc> ok
17:11 < rxr> though whether that is minimal is another question ...
17:18 < rxr> Baldzius: you wrote the package matrix is not up-to-date, can you drop me an example ?
17:31 < mnemoc> rxr: i meant that openmotif is even on 'attic', lesstif has to be used for motif stuff and not openmotif
17:56 < CIA-4> rene * r17995 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * removed mtools, softdog and openmotif from the desktop target
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18:09 < Baldzius> rxr: sendmail mplayer curl, all packages almost 2 last weeks old isn't there
18:10 < Baldzius> i thought maybe it's firefox cache problem as i had once but it's the same with konqueror
18:12 < rxr> yep, thanks problem was svn locked on server due manual intervention some days ago ...
18:13 < rxr> should be updated in some seconds
18:13 < rxr> actually is now
18:13 < rxr> can you confirm ?
18:13 < Baldzius> aha
18:14 < Baldzius> all ok
18:14 < rxr> including two tiny new links ,-)
18:14 < rxr> (below the info text=
18:14 < rxr> )
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18:56 < misl> hi folks
19:03 < rxr> hi misl 
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19:32 < mnemoc> rxr: iirc morfoh changed many xorg description by the end of march
19:32 < mnemoc> rxr: based on the descriptions on .pc files
19:44 < tdi> hejo
19:46 < mnemoc> .oO( is that a greeting? )o
19:46 < mnemoc> hi tdi ,-)
19:47 < tdi> yes
19:47 < tdi> i am very happy 
19:47 < mnemoc> new girlfriend? 
19:47 < tdi> have you seen that ?
19:47 < tdi> http://paludis.berlios.de/
19:47 < tdi> mnemoc: no, i use mutt 
19:47 < mnemoc> *click*
19:47 < tdi> and find it a good stuff
19:48 < mnemoc> *G*
19:49 < mnemoc> my wife used pine when i meet her ,-)
19:49 < tdi> pine is weird
19:50 < mnemoc> good enough for a girl studing linguistics
19:51 < tdi> they like to offer pine on universities
19:51 < tdi> as it is easy to use
19:51 < mnemoc> mutt is a pain to setup :p
19:52 < tdi> no it is not
19:53 < tdi> i was surprised by how it was easy to set up 
19:55 < mnemoc> or our use cases are very different, or i'm simply stupid
19:55 < tdi> mnemoc: i have multiprofiles
19:55 < tdi> etc
19:56 < tdi> addressbook nice features
20:07 < mnemoc> :)
20:15 < tdi> damn university
20:15 < CIA-4> amery * r17996 /trunk/package/base/liblockfile/liblockfile.conf: * fixed liblockfile to install properly on stage 1
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21:17 < CIA-4> amery * r17997 /trunk/package/base/termutils/ (destdir.patch glibc2.2.patch termutils.conf termutils.desc): * fixed termutils to install properly on stage 1, and updated copyright notes
21:44 < CIA-4> rene * r17998 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/parse-config: 
21:44 < CIA-4> * build strace for sparc64 with 32bit userspace for 64bit to allow tracing
21:44 < CIA-4>  both, 32 and 64bit processes
21:45 < CIA-4> rene * r17999 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/kernel.conf.m4: 
21:45 < CIA-4> * finalized sparc64 T2 kernel config for tonight, comes up on
21:45 < CIA-4>  both Ultra5 and Ultra10
21:50 < CIA-4> sebastian * r18000 /trunk/package/multimedia/w32codec/w32codec.desc: * updated w32codec (20050412 -> 20060611)
21:50 < CIA-4> sebastian * r18001 /trunk/package/multimedia/live/ (gcc41.patch live.desc): * updated live (2005.07.23 -> 2006.05.17)
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21:54 < sepp> hello :)
22:02 < rxr> hi sepp
22:03 < sepp> hi rxr 
22:04 < sepp> i tested the unified rt cvs wlan driver today - omg that is a mess :/
22:11 < sepp> good that i have a orinoco card - the cheap rt2500 device (with the crappy linux driver) is really a nightmare
22:24 < sepp> at least, finally mplayer has a gtk2 "gui" :D
22:36 < rxr> heh
22:36 < rxr> I do not comment, I debug dietlibc corruption on sparc and sparc64 which is no fun
22:37 < rxr> unfortunatly it is the only piece missing for the sparc cd, everything is in place, only our eraly userspace stuff is dieing away, which in fortunatly is based on dietlibc
22:43 < sepp> ;)
22:44 < CIA-4> amery * r18002 /trunk/package/network/ucspi-unix/ucspi-unix.conf: * fixed ucspi-unix to install properly on stage 1
22:56 < CIA-4> amery * r18003 /trunk/package/base/bcron/bcron.conf: * fixed bcron to install properly on stage 1
22:58 < tdi> is anybody a distributed computing guru ?
22:59 < CIA-4> amery * r18004 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/ (l7-filter.conf pkg_linux26mm_pre.conf): * fixed l7-filter to install properly on stage 1
22:59 < mnemoc> .oO( what is that? )o
23:01 < karasz> tdi, i subscribe to that question, although i guess i would put the accent diferently than you ;)
23:02 < tdi> pvm guy ?
23:03 < tdi> i need to write aniversal api of a monitor of a distribute process
23:03 < tdi> and i cannot get to it
23:05 < tdi> what the f* happened that i chose this faculty
23:05 < tdi> whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.... oh ...whyyyyy
23:06 < rxr> mnemoc: are you sure your last commits cross compile correctly ?
23:06 < rxr> that is not install natively compiled binaries ?
23:09 < rxr> I now cpio an initrd with a static glibc ksh, damn f*ck ...
23:10 < rxr> if that is the only thing I go to bed and continue this assembly level bit hunting someone else ...
23:10 < rxr> when you built dietlibc 50 times with bit modifications the joy degrades around past midnight
23:13 < mnemoc> rxr: i fixed the install, not the cross-compilation
23:17 < rxr> ouhm
23:17 < rxr> mnemoc: I wonder what sense it makes to just hide errors ?
23:23 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm not hiding anything, as i'm doing 'native' builds on stage 1 because i can't build stage 2 if perl doesn't do cross-libc
23:24 < mnemoc> rxr: that fix solves the 100% of my problem with those packages
23:29 < tdi> t2 would be great for xen 
23:30 < tdi> for selling 
23:30 < mnemoc> t2 doesn't even build xen-aware kernels
23:32 < rxr> maybe I should commit that bits ...
23:32 < mnemoc> maybe
23:32 < tdi> mnemoc: that does not matter
23:32 < tdi> ive got my own domU kernels
23:32 < mnemoc> i matters to me
23:33 < tdi> i never use distro kernels
23:33 < tdi> besides rhel
23:33 < valentin> mnemoc: you are free to change that :)
23:34 < mnemoc> valentin: i don't use xen, but i know there are some personal branches around with that feature implemented
23:35 < tdi> what i mean, i can have dom0 on gentoo (which i know best) and have different t2 config
23:35 < tdi> when client wants a server with bla and foo i just build it and run it as domu
23:35 < mnemoc> i prefer vserver for that
23:35 < tdi> then i log in to the bank account and wait for money drinking gin with tonic
23:35 < tdi> or a beer 
23:36 < tdi> mnemoc: vserver is not as fast and flexible as xen is
23:36 < mnemoc> *g*
23:36 < tdi> can you migrate vserver to another host machine ?
23:36 < tdi> xen has it
23:36 < tdi> which in environemnt where i sell virtual servers is crucial
23:37 < tdi> ecause i can do a load balancing of domUs
23:37 < tdi> also xen supports BSDs
23:37 < mnemoc> all depends on the use case, but xen is not faster than vserver. more flexible, yes
23:37 < tdi> and other systems, windows in future
23:37 < tdi> mnemoc: i am talking about xen hosting
23:38 < tdi> seling virtual servers to people who cant afford a machine
23:38 < rxr> and more secure
23:39 < mnemoc> sure
23:39 < tdi> yes, there are methods to go out from the vserver
23:39 < mnemoc> on debian
23:39 < tdi> i read sth on securityfocus
23:40 < tdi> ive got xens and work like swiss watches
23:40 < tdi> Patek was a Pole btw :)
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