--- Log opened Mon May 22 00:00:33 2006
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03:40 < _Ragnar_> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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08:36 < karasz> moin moin
08:39 -!- You're now known as rxr
08:44 < Baldzius> moin rxr karasz
08:45 < karasz> hello Baldzius 
08:45 < karasz> moin rxr
08:46 < CIA-2> aldas * r17572 /trunk/package/develop/rapidsvn/ (gcc41.patch rapidsvn.conf rapidsvn.desc): 
08:46 < CIA-2> * updated rapidsvn (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1)
08:46 < CIA-2> * added support for apr*-1.x
08:46 < CIA-2> * added gcc41.patch
09:11 < karasz> rxr, in your opinion what is the status uf ReiserFS4?
09:11 < karasz> i mean do you consider it production ready?
09:13 < Baldzius> karasz: i don't think so
09:14 < Baldzius> in my point of view namesys is doing regress not progress
09:15 < karasz> hm...
09:15 < Baldzius> last time i liked reiser4 was linux-2.6.14.x
09:15 < karasz> i reaqlly liked the 3.X releases...
09:16 < Baldzius> inclusion reiser4 into maistream kernel will mean it's production ready
09:16 < Baldzius> but i think they are far from it or smtg
09:17 < Baldzius> it's only my opinion :)
09:18 < karasz> well, that means jfs for some time for me :(
09:19 < Baldzius> i liked jfs, it was the fastest on my server
09:19 < Baldzius> but reiser4 is _really_ fast :)
09:19 < karasz> it is fast... although i would like to see a benchmark between them
09:19 < Baldzius> too bad i can't test them
09:20 < Baldzius> i'd say reiser4 should be faster
09:27 < karasz> faster yes, but how faster, because if it is just marginaly faster it is not worth to risk a not so prd ready FS...
09:28 < Baldzius> well i wouldn't recomend anyone to use reiser4 in production
09:29 < Baldzius> but i like to risk , i even used linux-2.5.x in servers :)
09:29 < Baldzius> and nothing happened
09:29 < Baldzius> bad
09:31 < CIA-2> rene * r17573 /trunk/package/network/plptools/ (64bit-int-fix.patch plptools.desc): * updated plptools (0.14 -> 0.15)
09:32 < rxr> I can ack reiser4 is fast
09:32 < rxr> even on recent kernels
09:32 < rxr> with recent kernels only interactivity suffer when the journal is flushed
09:32 < rxr> some applicatiosn hand then that want to perform i/o
09:32 < rxr> I recently fall back to xfs because of this reiser4 commit storms in latest kernels - but after some months on reiser4 xfs really feels lagging
09:33 < rxr> reiser4 was rock solid in my tests - only some -mm kernel hat a oops on umount - anything else was perfect - no lost file and such
09:34 < CIA-2> aldas * r17574 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: 
09:34 < CIA-2> * updated linux26 (2.6.16.16 -> 2.6.16.17)
09:34 < CIA-2> * security update: CVE-2006-1857, CVE-2006-1858, CVE-2006-0039
09:34 < karasz> well i found it a little suspicious that it hasn't made in the the kernel.... i wonder why?
09:35 < karasz> not even as an experimental module...
09:37 < rxr> some hard core hackery have strange options
09:37 < rxr> also many are biased - e.g IBM and sgi guys do not want to see some competing, faster FS
09:38 < rxr> despite design issues, reiser4 does allow a bit too much in the kernel for some folks
09:38 < rxr> and those request changes changes changes before it is accepted in the kernel
09:38 < karasz> ic
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12:34 < karasz> hi veki 
12:34 < veki> hi
12:37 < veki> I ahve to go now, but I will be back later
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12:52 < CIA-2> aldas * r17575 /trunk/package/gnome2/glibmm/glibmm.desc: * updated glibmm (2.10.2 -> 2.10.3)
12:52 < CIA-2> aldas * r17576 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-mag/gnome-mag.desc: * updated gnome-mag (0.12.4 -> 0.12.5)
12:53 < CIA-2> aldas * r17577 /trunk/package/gnome2/gok/gok.desc: * updated gok (1.0.8 -> 1.0.10)
13:02 < CIA-2> aldas * r17578 /trunk/package/network/quagga/quagga.desc: * updated quagga (0.99.3 -> 0.99.4)
13:04 < mnemoc> go aldas go!
13:05 < Baldzius> :)
13:05 < mnemoc> :)
13:07 < CIA-2> aldas * r17579 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/subversion.conf: * enabled svn-config in subversion (needed for anjuta)
13:08 < mnemoc> i though $pkg-config was an obsolete policy .... in pro of pkgconfig
13:08 < Baldzius> hm
13:08 < Baldzius> revert?
13:08 < mnemoc> no no
13:08 < mnemoc> anjuta's fault
13:09 < Baldzius> :)
13:09 < mnemoc> or maybe svn's fault ,-)
13:09 < karasz> hello mnemoc 
13:10 < karasz> you were soo silent that i didn't noticed you.
13:10 < mnemoc> hi ugly-fastforward-presser
13:10 < mnemoc> karasz: too busy :(
13:10  * karasz looks around disoriented.... who me?
13:10 < mnemoc> but i keep a 3-liner allways-on-top irssi on the corner ,-)
13:11 < karasz> hope that busy means new stuff and not the old one delaued...
13:11 < mnemoc> old
13:11 < karasz> :(
13:11 < mnemoc> f* murphy
13:11 < karasz> mnemoc: go go go
13:11 < mnemoc> :)
13:11  * mnemoc getting ozut of coffee
13:17 < CIA-2> aldas * r17580 /trunk/package/gnome2/anjuta/ (4 files): 
13:17 < CIA-2> * updated anjuta (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2)
13:17 < CIA-2> * adapted no-pkgconfig-list-all.patch for new version
13:17 < CIA-2> * added support for apr*-1.x
13:17 < CIA-2> * added include-ldflags.patch
13:17 < CIA-2> * copyright update
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14:16 < karasz> off for a while, cu later guys
14:16 < mnemoc> cu karasz 
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16:19 < fist_o_rage> re
16:24 < rxr> heh - my OS X dashboard still shows sunshine for berlin ,-) (and had drawing bug artifacts 5 hours ago or so ... ,-)
17:01 < CIA-2> aldas * r17581 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (0.50 -> 0.51)
17:01 < CIA-2> aldas * r17582 /trunk/package/multimedia/libzvbi/libzvbi.desc: * updated libzvbi (0.2.19 -> 0.2.21)
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17:13 < CIA-2> aldas * r17583 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgksu/libgksu.desc: * updated libgksu (1.3.7 -> 1.3.8)
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18:07 < fist_o_rage> morfof is stil in .pl?
18:07 < fist_o_rage> even morfoh...
18:08 < mnemoc> fist_o_rage: no
18:52 < fist_o_rage> i am borowing a column from karasz for today
18:52 < fist_o_rage> wtf of the day:
18:52 < fist_o_rage> 'Microsoft is launching, on the eve of its Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) a new program designed to attract new users in emerging markets. Microsoft's pay-as-you-go program, known as FlexGo, will allow users to pay for their computing time using prepaid cards, similar to cell-phone "Top Up" cards, and/or subscription services that are akin to cable rental arrangements. But will users in developing nations prefer to obtain more costly, but 
19:04 < CIA-2> rene * r17584 /trunk/package/network/slmodem/ (4 files): * updated slmodem (2.9.10 -> 2.9.11-20051101), and fixed it for 2.6.16
20:24 < CIA-2> amery * r17585 /trunk/package/develop/electricfence/electricfence.desc: * fixed electricfence [V] to match the [D] (2.4.16 -> 2_4_13)
21:00 < CIA-2> rene * r17586 /trunk/package/network/slmodem/ (2.6.16.patch no-install-drivers.patch): 
21:00 < CIA-2> * added the forgotten to add slmodem/2.6.16.patch and improved the don't
21:00 < CIA-2>  build the driver during user-space tools patch
22:09 < CIA-2> amery * r17587 /trunk/package/develop/duma/ (. duma.conf duma.desc): * added duma (2_4_27) - fork of electricfence
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22:43 < trb7> hi
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23:00 < trb7> hi
23:09 < trb7> good night, i'll be around tomorrow
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