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T2 IRC Log: 2006-04-15

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--- Log opened Sat Apr 15 00:00:37 2006
00:53 < karasz> got to sleep too
00:53 < karasz> see you guys...
00:53 < karasz> and for who counts Happy Easter ;)
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03:57 < keinek> hi
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09:56 < karasz> moin all.
09:59 < mnemoc> moin karasz
10:01 < karasz> oh, hello mnemoc :)
10:01 < karasz> hmmm.... shouldn't you be out celebrating?
10:04 < veki> hello
10:05 < mnemoc> celebrating what?
10:05 < mnemoc> hi veki
10:06 < karasz> hello veki
10:06 < karasz> mnemoc: Easter?
10:07 < veki> hello
10:08 < veki> yesterday was Great Friday
10:08 < veki> a good freind of mine said that he celebrate Saint gcc
10:09 < mnemoc> karasz: i don't celebrate easter, but we make 'sacrifice and meditation' on friday, and some kind of celebration on sunday. nothing on saturday or monday
10:09 < veki> when Richard Stallman was here a couple fo weeks ago he said about Church of Emacs and Saitn Ignucius :-)
10:09 < mnemoc> o_O
10:10 < mnemoc> Emacs is a sect, not a church :)
10:10 < mnemoc> vim is a church
10:10 < veki> GNU vim is church
10:10 < veki> so Stallman would argue with you :-)
10:10 < veki> he said that vim is OK if it is free
10:11 < mnemoc> :)
10:11 < veki> if you go on www.stallman.org you will see him on some photos dressed as Saint IGNUcius
10:16 < karasz> guys I will revive a somehow forgotten T2 tradition ;)
10:16 < karasz> so, stuff off the day:
10:17 < karasz> in this year, there will be two interesting dates, one based on the american notation and one based on the european one:
10:18 < karasz> european date: 04/05/06 01/02/03
10:18 < karasz> kka: 01:02:03 04/05/06
10:18 < karasz> meaning 1 Am two minutes and 3 secs on the forth of may 2006
10:19 < karasz> in the american stile the date was on the fifth of april. same hour.
10:20 < mnemoc> o_O
10:26 < karasz> as as far as I can calculate this kind of event will return only in 3006
10:27 < karasz> so we can say that it is unique, at least for thoose who does not plan on being here in 3006.
10:29 < mnemoc> :D
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10:33 < veki> so what will be on that day
10:35 < mnemoc> 123456
10:37 < veki> ah, got it
10:38 < veki> sorry , I am working on something
10:38 < veki> at least see each other in thousand years, if there will be user called veki's 4th reincarnation that is me actually :-)
10:38 < veki> so do not be surprised
10:40 < mnemoc> :)
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12:01 < morfoh> hi
12:05 < veki> hi
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12:12 < CIA-7> chris * r16965 /trunk/package/develop/libtextcat/ (. libtextcat.desc): * added libtextcat (2.2) - A library for efficient, lightweight text classification.
12:21 < karasz> moin kommrad
12:23 < morfoh> moin tavarish :)
12:24 < veki> guys, I have to go , cu later
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13:10 < karasz> re
13:19 < mnemoc> wb karasz
13:21 < CIA-7> chris * r16966 /trunk/package/network/asterisk/asterisk.desc: * updated asterisk (1.2.6 -> 1.2.7.1)
13:24 < karasz> thanks mnemoc
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16:40 < CIA-7> chris * r16967 /trunk/package/develop/xapian-core/ (. xapian-core.desc): * added xapian-core (0.9.5) - Information retrieval library.
16:40 < CIA-7> chris * r16968 /trunk/package/develop/xapian-omega/ (. xapian-omega.desc): * added xapian-omega (0.9.5) - An extandable website search engine built upon Xapian.
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17:32 < keinek> hi
17:33 < misl> hi keinek :)
17:33 < keinek> misl when the next stable or tag ? :P
17:34 < misl> dunno, ask rxr
17:34 < keinek> i dont like epsilon.
17:34 < keinek> i was waiting for the next tag.
17:34 < keinek> sure... rxr when the next tag?
17:34 < morfoh_> hi keinek
17:35 < misl> hi morfoh_
17:35 < morfoh_> keinek: what's wrong with "epsilon" ?
17:35 < morfoh_> hi misl :)
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17:36 < keinek> first... the boot sequense, if you have two cdrom drives.
17:36 < morfoh> misl: how was your time on the playground yesterday ? :)
17:37 < misl> nice :)
17:37 < keinek> more bug was fixed in the trunk.
17:37 < keinek> so... i dont like epsilon.
17:37 < keinek> now i use the old and stable version.
17:37 < keinek> :)
17:37 < morfoh> keinek: I agree with you and I doubt that it is worth to call it "epsilon"
17:40 < morfoh> keinek: if you are a bit patient I could provide you a desktop target based on mnemosyne made from current 2.2
17:40 < morfoh> during or shortly after easter
17:43 < keinek> thanks morfoh, but i would like to wait to the next tag, or stable.
17:44 < keinek> 2.1.1.1 work fine, but for example: xfce4 freeze in my athlon 64, in 32 bit and 64 bit too.
17:45 < keinek> Now i use that computer in 32 bit, with gnome, but fail in more parts..
17:45 < morfoh> keinek: afaiks there is no release plan yet :/
17:45 < morfoh> afaics
17:45 < keinek> gnome is very unstable on this computer, i dont know in other, is ther first time that i try gnome.
17:45 < keinek> well.... i understand...
17:46 < keinek> but the first problem with 2.1.1.1
17:46 < keinek> is the windows systems.
17:46 < keinek> many new version, required new lib.
17:46 < keinek> example: the New E
17:47 < keinek> so 2.1.1.1 work fine, but the windows managers are a bit older.
17:47 < morfoh> keinek: my proposed desktop target is E17 based :)
17:47 < keinek> i would like use E17
17:47 < keinek> I would try E17
17:47 < keinek> in 2.1.1.1 E17 does not work.
17:47 < keinek> need new libs.
17:48 < keinek> :'(
17:48 < morfoh> keinek: if you provide me a list with gaming stuff you want I can build a gaming version for you
17:48 < keinek> morfoh, i dont play too much :P
17:48 < keinek> i have my own version of mnemosyne.
17:48 < morfoh> keinek: and you're becoming one of my first alpha testers :)
17:48 < keinek> i call it "redsyne"
17:48 < keinek> :P
17:49 < keinek> is a mnemosyne but... more desktop and multimedia.
17:49 < morfoh> keinek: anyhow ... send me list of packages you'd like to have
17:49 < keinek> I use : audacity, firefox, thunderbird, ripperX, Mplayer, NVU
17:49 < morfoh> keinek: you're wasting time
17:49 < morfoh> :p
17:49 < keinek> i will send you, the list of my own iso.
17:50 < keinek> i will send you a email.
17:50 < morfoh> keinek: ok
17:50 < keinek> what is your e-mail?
17:50 < keinek> i need the same but in 2.2.
17:50 < morfoh> keinek: but really ... you shouldn't need a modified version of mnemosyne you can inherit it on your own target
17:50 < keinek> i know...
17:51 < keinek> but dont want do that.
17:51 < keinek> :D
17:52 < keinek> i need a 2.2 for make a 2.2 ??
17:52 < keinek> or with the 2.1 i can make de 2.2?
17:52 < keinek> again the egg and the kitchen?
17:55 < mnemoc> .oO( and the kitchen?? )o
17:55 < morfoh> :D
17:55 < keinek> Mmmm why dont help me...?
17:56 < keinek> my english is very bad :'(
17:56 < morfoh> keinek: keinek the theory of the "egg and the kitchen" is quite new to me ... please explain it :)
17:56 < morfoh> keinek: don't cry .... :)
17:56 < keinek> come on... go on...
17:56 < keinek> :P
17:56 < morfoh> keinek: I guess you meant chicken :p
17:56 < keinek> yes!
17:56 < keinek> kitchen is where make the food right?
17:57 < mnemoc> yes :)
17:57 < morfoh> keinek: look ... even with our broken english we understand each other
17:57 < keinek> Yes!!! i know it!
17:57 < keinek> mnemoc, hi! how do you do in germany?
17:58 < keinek> i enter to #geekpreview last week but nobody inthere
17:59 < keinek> now mnemoc is a european man, no talk with sudacas :P
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17:59 < veki> hi
17:59 < mnemoc> :)
17:59 < mnemoc> hi veki
17:59 < keinek> hi veki
17:59 < morfoh> hi veki
18:00 < veki> how are you guys?
18:01 < keinek> i be fine, today is a suny day in argentina.
18:01 < mnemoc> keinek: if i'm not there means that my shell server is down
18:01 < keinek> mnemoc, dont make excuses... :D
18:01 < mnemoc> i'm there, are you?
18:02 < keinek> well i do i could do, i have a half dial up connection.
18:02 < keinek> mnemoc, i was got a new job!
18:02 < mnemoc> proxeneta?
18:02 < keinek> now, i teach to childrens of 7mo to 8vo.
18:03 < keinek> mnemoc, something like that :D
18:03 < keinek> i can do my own programs for teaching.
18:03 < keinek> the firs class was "Linux - the O.S of Hackers."
18:03 < keinek> but nobody know what is a hackers... is very sad.
18:04 < keinek> that childrens was no money, only two or tree have a computer, other go to cyberscafes.
18:05 < mnemoc> keinek: was=era, and children is already plural
18:06 < keinek> take 2: That children no have money, only two or tree have one.
18:06 < keinek> :D
18:07 < keinek> "learn english with mnemoc, if mnemoc doesnt know, nobody know, so... where is mnemoc?!?"
18:07 < mnemoc> those is the plural of that
18:07 < veki> children is plural, yes
18:07 < keinek> take 3: "those children no have money, only mnemoc have one"
18:08 < keinek> :D
18:08 < veki> :-)
18:08 < keinek> this is very funny.
18:09 < mnemoc> keinek: only mnemoc has what?
18:09 < keinek> what time is in germany?
18:09 < mnemoc> 20:10
18:11 < keinek> guau...
18:11 < keinek> only the weekend i can talk with you :(
18:18 < keinek> i am playing mario bros in t2 :P
18:18 < keinek> if anybody wants the rom for the xmame, tell me ;)
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18:26 < karasz> re *
18:26 < veki> re
18:26 < karasz> hello veki
18:28 < veki> hello
18:29 < veki> how are you? jak se mas? on Czech
18:29 < karasz> veki: angry.
18:30 < veki> oh, why?
18:31 < karasz> because I am confined to winslow and I couldn't even install my webcam on that marvelous plug and play OS.
18:31 < veki> oh, I am sorry :-(
18:31 * karasz now I know why it is called plug and pray
18:32 < karasz> seems that my praying was not that powerfull.
18:32 < veki> in this case pray is not helpful at all
18:32 < karasz> veki: nevermind, it passed already ;)
18:32 < veki> good :-)
18:33 < karasz> one shini new day will come and I will be able to return to *nix.
18:33 < morfoh> karasz: ask mnemoc ... he is used to plug and pray :p
18:33 < karasz> ah, kommrad, ;)
18:34 < veki> return to *nix as soon as possible ;_)
18:35 < karasz> veki if it would have been up to me, I would have never left. ;)
18:36 < veki> of course, it is not good for your heart to be in such situation ;-)
18:36 < veki> karasz: stand up for your rights :-)
18:37 < karasz> veki: ok.
18:38 * karasz starts yo beat up himself.
18:39 < veki> :-)
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20:00 < karasz> moin rxr
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21:00 < CIA-7> chris * r16969 /trunk/package/www/firefox/ (firefox.conf firefox.desc):
21:00 < CIA-7> * hacked firefox.conf to flist_add .jar files which are ignored by the fl_wrapper
21:00 < CIA-7> * Note: This is an ugly hack and should be better fixed in fl_wrapper, but at least we've a functioning firefox again after installing a 'fresh' system!
21:02 < morfoh> ^ of course this problem didn't affected builds in stage 9 ;)
21:03 < karasz> re kommrad
21:03 < morfoh> thx tavarish karasz :)
21:03 < karasz> by any chanse do you know where doe firefox keep its 'Download Actions' settings?'
21:05 < morfoh> karasz: edit -> preferences -> download ?
21:05 < karasz> I am interested in files
21:06 < karasz> or even registry entries that I cannot find.
21:06 < karasz> updated firefox, because a security issue, now all my mime related preferences are unavailable.
21:10 < CIA-7> chris * r16970 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.conf:
21:10 < CIA-7> * added a check for enabling svg support if we have libsvg-cairo
21:10 < CIA-7> * Note! Unfortunately the repriorization to build firefox after libsvg and libsvg-cairo leaked into the last commit (r16969)! Sorry ;)
21:12 < CIA-7> chris * r16971 /trunk/package/www/mozplugger/mozplugger.desc: * fixed mozplugger by changing the priorization ( 154.800 -> 210.100) to be build after firefox
21:14 < CIA-7> chris * r16972 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayerplug-in/mplayerplug-in.desc: * fixed mplayerplug-in by changing the priorization (192.300 -> 210.200) to built it after firefox
21:19 < CIA-7> chris * r16973 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.conf: * fixed LDAP related part of the firefox.conf by removing '--disable-ldap' and added a proper check if we can enable LDAP support
21:20 < CIA-7> chris * r16974 /trunk/package/textproc/libxml++/libxml++.desc: * updated libxml++ (2.11.0 -> 2.14.0)
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21:57 < CIA-7> chris * r16975 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.conf: * fixed firefox.conf because of leaked in spaces from the last commits instead of using tabs. Sorry again :)
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21:57 < morfoh> ^ shame on me :)
21:58 < karasz> hm?
21:58 < morfoh> karasz: not you :)
21:58 < morfoh> karasz: regarding my last commits
21:58 < karasz> why shame on you?
21:58 < karasz> ah.
21:58 < karasz> ok.
21:58 < morfoh> karasz: because I did bad copy paste and some spaces leaked in instead of tabs
21:59 < morfoh> but good that I rebuilt again for QA :)
22:00 < morfoh> the problem was that I tested building firefox with all changes
22:00 < morfoh> and I had to split it up for commiting
22:01 < morfoh> .oO( shame on me again )o sorry :/
22:01 < morfoh> but at least we've a functioning firefox again :)
22:01 < morfoh> + svg support :)
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