--- Log opened Wed Mar 22 00:00:07 2006
00:00 < keinek> you want that i run file in 1-dietlibc.txt?
00:00 < mnemoc> .oO
00:00 < mnemoc> against the f* bin-x86_64/diet please
00:00 < mnemoc> the one which is failing
00:03 < keinek> Mmmm i will lost bin-x86_64
00:03 < keinek> :)
00:03 < keinek> :(
00:03 < keinek> dont worry i can run again everthing
00:03 < keinek> this fail in 15 minutes
00:08 < keinek> xara now is GPL
00:08 < keinek> :P
00:14 < CIA-18> amery * r16060 /trunk/package/shells/pdksh/pdksh.desc: * marked pdksh as NO-SSP
00:15 < CIA-18> amery * r16061 /trunk/package/base/minised/minised.desc: * marked minised at NO-SSP
00:18 < CIA-18> amery * r16062 /trunk/package/base/embutils/embutils.desc: * marked embutils as NO-SSP
00:19 < mnemoc> keinek: the xara opensource project was announced at october of 2005
00:20 < keinek> but today is true
00:20 < keinek> in october of 2005 was just a promese
00:20 < mnemoc> http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
00:21 < keinek> jsaw, how is my compile of minimal athlon ? :P
00:21 < mnemoc> pff
00:22 < keinek> "pff"
00:22 < keinek> :P
00:27 < jsaw> == 03/22/06 01:29:03 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc.
00:33 < mnemoc> *yawn*
00:39 < CIA-18> amery * r16063 /trunk/package/base/procps/procps.conf: * changed procps to not call ldconfig by it's own, because it's not available at stage 1
00:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: every package linked against dietlibc fails with SSP :(
00:46 < jsaw> yep
00:46 < mnemoc> > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
00:46 < mnemoc> !> Due to previous errors, no 2-binutils.log file!
00:46 < mnemoc> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.)
00:46 < mnemoc> this is even better :(
00:46 < mnemoc> -> $root/var/adm/logs/2-binutils.out -> 2-binutils.err
00:46 < mnemoc> == 03/22/06 01:50:19 =[2]=> Aborted building package binutils.
00:46 < jsaw> huh
00:47 < mnemoc> task for tomorrow anyway
00:47 < jsaw> seems so...
00:47 < mnemoc> the good part is that i can shutdown the computer now and sleep without the noise :)
00:48 < jsaw> hehe
00:48 < mnemoc> thanks 2-binutils!
00:48 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw, keinek, et al. :)
00:49 < jsaw> sleep well mnemoc 
00:49 < keinek> gn mnemoc 
00:56 < morfoh> jsaw: poor girl, when I came into school I broke my prefered right arm very complicated, and I had to learn writing with the left one. now I can write with both :)
00:57 < jsaw> oh
00:57 < morfoh> it was borken on three parts I think
00:57 < morfoh> broken
00:57 < jsaw> myohmy
00:57 < morfoh> I think my parents had fun with me :)
00:58 < jsaw> I don't think so.
00:58 < morfoh> but good to hear that your girl seems to be quite well
00:58 < jsaw> Children are easier to handle than adults in such cases...
00:59 < jsaw> (well probably depends on the "handler")
00:59 < morfoh> ack :)
00:59 < jsaw> :)
01:00 < jsaw> some hours ago she tried to find out how far she can go in up-setting us...
01:00 < morfoh> jsaw: btw, a nice name you choosed for her :)
01:00 < jsaw> thanks, I'll tell Steffi
01:00 < jsaw> (I only chose the second one...)
01:00 < morfoh> do that :)
01:01 < morfoh> what is the one you choosed ?
01:01 < morfoh> sorry :|
01:01 < jsaw> full name: Marlene Hannah Stella
01:02 < morfoh> also quite well :)
01:02 < jsaw> (the second daughter is: Charlotte Theresa Luna)
01:02 < jsaw> fits quite well, stars versus moon
01:02 < morfoh> :)
01:02 < morfoh> :)
01:21 < owl> gn8
01:27 < jsaw> gn8 owl 
01:27 < morfoh> gn8 owl 
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01:59 < morfoh> gn8 * :)
02:17 < jsaw> cu morfoh 
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05:58 < karasz> moin moin
06:00 < Stelz> moin, karasz :>
06:00 < karasz> hi Stelz 
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07:20 < rxr> re
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07:50 < Stelz> hloall
07:50 < Stelz> :>
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08:27 < mnemoc> wth! SSP support at 2.2 is completly broken
08:28 < mnemoc> configure:1990: gcc -o conftest    conftest.c  1>&5
08:28 < mnemoc> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-t2-linux-gnu/4.1.0/../../../../i686-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lssp_nonshared
08:28 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
08:28 < mnemoc> ^--- 2-binutils
08:30 < CIA-18> rene * r16064 /trunk/package/base/psmisc/psmisc.desc: * updated psmisc (21.9 -> 22.2)
08:44 < CIA-18> amery * r16065 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9: 
08:44 < CIA-18> * changed dietlibc/parse-config to disable GCC stack-protector if it's enabled
08:44 < CIA-18>  for a package which will be linked against dietlibc
08:46 < CIA-18> amery * r16066 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
08:46 < CIA-18> * unmarked pdksh, minised and embutils at NO-SSP because now dietlibc/parse-config
08:46 < CIA-18>  is disabling it when needed
08:49 < CIA-18> susan * r16067 /trunk/package/gnome2/dasher/dasher.desc: * updated dasher (4.0.0 -> 4.0.1)
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09:30 < CIA-18> rene * r16068 /trunk/package/kde/yakuake/yakuake.desc: * updated yakuake (2.7.4 -> 2.7.5)
09:32 < CIA-18> rene * r16069 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/ (xorg.conf.example xorg.conf.template): 
09:32 < CIA-18> * fixed xorg.conf font pathes to use the new TTF instead of the
09:32 < CIA-18>  former TrueType directory and added missing slashes for uniformity
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10:13 < CIA-18> amery * r16070 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * introduced 'atstage' helper which tests if $stagelevel match with the name given
10:19 < CIA-18> amery * r16071 /trunk/architecture/sparc64/parse-config: * changed sparc64 to use atstage helper
10:20 < CIA-18> amery * r16072 /trunk/architecture/x86-64/pkg_gcc_post.conf: * changed x86-64 to use atstage helper
10:23 < CIA-18> amery * r16073 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * changed atstage helper to consider stagelevel == 9 also native
10:25 < rxr>                         cross|crossbuild|crosscompile)
10:25 < CIA-18> amery * r16074 /trunk/package/archiver/tar/tar.conf: * changed tar to use atstage helper
10:25 < rxr> ^- plese let us focus on one name, no ?
10:25 < mnemoc> rxr: which? :)
10:25 < rxr> just cross ?
10:25 < mnemoc> ok
10:25 < rxr> do you test this?
10:26 < rxr> the function looks like my code yesterday that aborted on return 1 due to set -e, no ?
10:27 < mnemoc> it shouldn't abort because it's alway used inside conditions
10:28 < mnemoc> my build is just at 1-linux26 :(
10:28 < mnemoc> because i had to restart after disabling SSP completly :(
10:31 < rxr> ah yes ...
10:31 < rxr> ... to the conditional thing
10:33 < CIA-18> amery * r16075 /trunk/package/powerpc/mol/pkg_linux24_post.conf: * changed mol to use atstage helper
10:33 < owl> moin
10:34 < CIA-18> amery * r16076 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/mine.conf: * changed mine to use atstage helper
10:34 < mnemoc> moin owlinette
10:34 < owl> hi mnemoc . thx. now my name sounds like cough-pills ^^
10:35 < CIA-18> amery * r16077 /trunk/package/archiver/lzop/lzop.conf: * cleaned lzop and changed to use atstage helper
10:36 < mnemoc> owl: :p
10:38 < CIA-18> amery * r16078 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-driver/pkg_linux24_post.conf: * changed alsa-driver to use atstage helper
10:40 < CIA-18> amery * r16079 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/linux-header.conf: * changed linux-header to use atstage helper
10:41 < CIA-18> rene * r16080 /trunk/scripts/Config: * changed "Backuping" to "Backing up"
10:41 < mnemoc> :)
10:43 < morfoh_> mnemoc: at least your build is that "far", my rescheduled ref stopped with 0-findutils 
10:43 < morfoh_> moin btw
10:43 -!- morfoh_ is now known as morfoh
10:43 < mnemoc> morfoh: o_O
10:44 < mnemoc> morfoh: reason?
10:44 < CIA-18> rene * r16081 /trunk/package/base/minit/inits/default/depends: * added remount to the default minit init dependencies
10:45 < CIA-18> amery * r16082 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/uclibc.conf: * changed uclibc to use atstage helper
10:45 < CIA-18> rene * r16083 /trunk/package/base/coreutils/no-man.patch.cross: 
10:45 < CIA-18> * fixed coreutils for cross compilation by disabling manual page
10:45 < CIA-18>  generation which required some tool usually not available (IIRC)
10:46 < morfoh> ^ mnemoc what is atstage helper ?
10:46 < CIA-18> amery * r16084 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/mine.conf: * changed uclibc/mine to use atstage helper
10:46 < mnemoc> morfoh: a dumb helper to remove some internals from .conf files :)
10:47 < CIA-18> rene * r16085 /trunk/package/base/minised/minised.conf: * removed double slashes in the minised install pathes
10:47 < mnemoc> it just compare $stagelevel considering a list of OR stage names
10:48 < mnemoc> just in case we change those internals
10:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: hmmm ... aha  :)
10:48 < mnemoc> and to increase understand-ability
10:48 < morfoh> mnemoc: had to run a diff to see :)
10:49 < morfoh> rxr: btw, still bad with me ?
10:49 < CIA-18> amery * r16086 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/parse-config-0: * changed sysvinit to use atstage helper
10:49 < mnemoc> uhm?
10:50 < CIA-18> amery * r16087 /trunk/package/base/shadow/shadow.conf: * changed shadow to use atstage helper
10:53 < mnemoc> uhm, why just apply postsysfiles for antive builds
10:53 < mnemoc> native*
10:54 < mnemoc> s/why/we/ :\
10:55 < CIA-18> amery * r16088 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (parse-config sysfiles.conf): * changed sysfiles to use atstage helper
10:57 < CIA-18> amery * r16089 /trunk/package/base/gettext/gettext.conf: * changed gettext to use atstage helper
10:58 < CIA-18> amery * r16090 /trunk/package/base/texinfo/texinfo.conf: * changed texinfo to use atstage helper
10:59 < CIA-18> amery * r16091 /trunk/package/base/findutils/findutils.conf: * changed findutils to use atstage helper
11:12 < CIA-18> jsaw * r16092 /trunk/package/base/sam/jsaw/ (. sam.lua sam_dummy.lua): 
11:12 < CIA-18> * a different approach to SAM modules,
11:12 < CIA-18>  with help/usage system, module auto-loading
11:12 < CIA-18>  TODO: option parsing, simple CLI
11:12 < jsaw> mnemoc: --^
11:13 < jsaw> cu later
11:32 < mnemoc> re
11:32 < mnemoc> thanks jsaw 
11:41 < CIA-18> amery * r16093 /trunk/package/base/ncurses/ncurses.conf: * changed ncurses to use atstage helper
11:41 < CIA-18> amery * r16094 /trunk/package/base/bison/bison.conf: * changed bison to use atstage helper
11:42 < CIA-18> amery * r16095 /trunk/package/base/groff/groff.conf: * changed groff to use atstage helper
11:42 < CIA-18> amery * r16096 /trunk/package/base/util-linux/util-linux.conf: * changed util-linux to use atstage helper
11:42 < CIA-18> amery * r16097 /trunk/package/base/libpcap/libpcap.conf: * changed libpcap to use atstage helper
11:43 < CIA-18> amery * r16098 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/hotplug++.conf: * changed hotplug++ to use atstage helper
11:49 < CIA-18> amery * r16099 /trunk/package/base/automake/parse-config: * changed automake to use atstage helper
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11:53 < CIA-18> amery * r16100 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * changed linux24 to use atstage helper
11:56 < CIA-18> amery * r16101 /trunk/package/base/libtool/parse-config: * changed libtool to use atstage helper
11:59 < CIA-18> amery * r16102 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf: * changed glibc to use atstage helper
12:01 < CIA-18> amery * r16103 /trunk/package/base/glibc32/glibc32.conf: * changed glibc32 to use atstage helper
12:05 < jsaw> re
12:08 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 
12:08 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 
12:12 < mnemoc> !> :dmesg.c:(.text+0x1b6): undefined reference to `__syscall_syslog'
12:12 < mnemoc> !> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
12:12 < mnemoc> ^--- 1-embutils :(
12:12 < jsaw> oh, you got that too...
12:12 < jsaw> I ignored it...
12:13 < mnemoc> i have ABORT_AFTER=9 :)
12:14 < jsaw> does the build-system understand compressed patches inside the package tree?
12:14 < mnemoc> yes
12:14 < jsaw> how do I add the patches?
12:14 < jsaw> file.patch.bz2 enough?
12:15 < mnemoc> i know it will apply such file on patchfiles
12:15 < mnemoc> but i'm not sure if it will autodetect it
12:15 < jsaw> tsts: Creating patch for package/develop/subversion/autogen.patch.bz2.
12:15 < mnemoc>     662         patchfiles="`ls $confdir/*.patch{,.$arch} \
12:15 < mnemoc>     663                         $confdir/*.patch_$xpkg{.$arch} \
12:15 < mnemoc>     664                         2> /dev/null | tr '\n' ' '`"
12:16 < mnemoc> easy to 'improve'
12:16 < jsaw> ic
12:16 < jsaw> I'll add it manually
12:16 < mnemoc> :(
12:16 < mnemoc>     690                 echo "Apply patch $x ..."
12:16 < mnemoc>     691
12:16 < mnemoc>     692                 if [[ $x = *.bz2 ]] ; then
12:16 < mnemoc> jsaw: why manual?
12:17 < jsaw> I don't think we should have compressed patches inside the package tree really. But this one has to be...
12:17 < jsaw> This would also necessitate the adaption of Create-CopyPath...
12:17 < jsaw> Patch*
12:17 < jsaw> and so on...
12:18 < mnemoc> nah
12:18 < mnemoc> unknown extensions are ignored
12:18 < jsaw> see above, it tries to create a patch!
12:18 < jsaw> with this result:
12:18 < jsaw> Binary files ./package/develop/subversion/autogen.patch.bz2 and /tmp/tmp.cmEUnW5641 differ
12:18 < mnemoc> o_O
12:19 < mnemoc> that's a ugly bug on Create-CopyPath
12:19 < mnemoc> CopyPatch
12:20 < CIA-18> amery * r16104 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/ (dietlibc.conf parse-config-9 pkg_gcc_post.conf): * changed dietlibc to use atstage helper
12:20 < mnemoc> .oO( we need a hasflag helper too )o
12:21 < jsaw> have you had a look at my sam code, yet?
12:22 < mnemoc> not yet, let me update
12:22 < jsaw> I put it into subdir "jsaw", so we can discuss first...
12:23 < CIA-18> rene * r16105 /trunk/architecture/powerpc64/kernel.conf.m4: 
12:23 < CIA-18> * updated powerpc64/kernel.conf.m4 to enable all the new fan control
12:23 < CIA-18>  (windfarm) modules as well as the needed frequency scalling module
12:23 < CIA-18> * removed one 32bit only (iBook G4) config on-the-way
12:23 < jsaw> hi rxr 
12:23 < jsaw> rxr: have you seen the email "Building t2 trun on ppc" on ML?
12:24 < jsaw> trunk*
12:25 < mnemoc> that 'unpack' was what i was looking for hours yestarday :p
12:25 < jsaw> :)
12:25 < jsaw> once in a while things are rather hard to find in the lua docs...
12:26 < rxr> jsaw: yes, I still hve to hit the issue he hit
12:26 < jsaw> took me month to understand setmetatable, for example, the manual was not very clear imo
12:26 < jsaw> rxr: ic
12:28 < jsaw> rxr: just wanted to make sure it does not get orphaned (like some stuff on trac...)
12:28 < jsaw> brb (coffee)
12:29 < mnemoc> the multiline syntax is quite unconfortable
12:36 < mnemoc> jsaw: trac need to send mails :(
12:36 < Stelz> :>
12:37 < Stelz> we r still here ©
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12:37 < morfoh> I could do a trac update today ... it's on my todo, but if we need it urgently 
12:37 < CIA-18> amery * r16106 /trunk/package/base/gcc/ (gcc.conf wrappers.in): * changed gcc to use (mostly) atstage helper
12:38 < mnemoc> it'S not urgent for me at leastr
12:41 < CIA-18> amery * r16107 /trunk/package/base/pam/parse-config: * changed pam to (partially) use atstage helper
12:43 < jsaw> mnemoc: what do you mean with "multiline syntax" ?
12:44 < mnemoc> --[[ thing
12:44 < mnemoc> and [[ thing
12:44 < jsaw> ah
12:44 < jsaw> but why ?
12:44 < jsaw> no hilight?
12:44 < mnemoc> just feelings
12:45 < mnemoc> yep, less doesn'T do highlighting
12:45 < jsaw> ok...
12:45 < jsaw> i use vi in such cases...
12:45 < mnemoc> i like to be grep friendly usually :)
12:46 < mnemoc> so i dislike multiline things
12:46 < jsaw> ok. concerning comments it's easy to change...
12:46 < mnemoc> but beside that, i like the approach
12:48 < CIA-18> amery * r16108 /trunk/package/develop/boehm-gc/pkg_gcc_pre.conf: * changed boehm-gc to use atstage helper
12:48 < jsaw> where can I upload the minimal-athlon64 for keinek?
12:48 < mnemoc> for comments i only use multiline when i temporarily disable something
12:48 < CIA-18> aldas * r16109 /trunk/package/security/libchipcard2/ (hotfix_sysfsutils.patch libchipcard2.desc): 
12:48 < CIA-18> * updated libchipcard2 (1.9.20beta -> 2.1.2)
12:48 < CIA-18> * removed hotfix_sysfsutils.patch - obsolete
12:48 < mnemoc> gmsp?
12:48 < jsaw> full address please
12:49 < mnemoc> i don'T know it :(
12:50 < CIA-18> aldas * r16110 /trunk/package/develop/gwenhywfar/gwenhywfar.desc: * updated gwenhywfar (1.99.7 -> 2.1.0)
12:50 < mnemoc> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/ftp/t2/unstable/
12:50 < mnemoc> but for uploading you need sftp access iirc
12:51 < CIA-18> aldas * r16111 /trunk/package/office/aqbanking/aqbanking.desc: * updated aqbanking (1.9.7beta -> 1.9.9beta)
12:52 < CIA-18> amery * r16112 /trunk/package/develop/ccache/parse-config: * changed ccache to use (mostly) atstage helper
12:53 < CIA-18> aldas * r16113 /trunk/package/office/qbankmanager/ (qbankmanager.desc uic.patch): 
12:53 < CIA-18> * updated qbankmanager (0.9.35 -> 0.9.37)
12:53 < CIA-18> * added uic.patch
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12:54 < Baldzius> moin
12:54 < mnemoc> wb aldas
12:54 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc :)
12:54 < morfoh> moin Baldzius :)
12:54 < Baldzius> moin morfoh
12:55 < CIA-18> amery * r16114 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/pkg_linux26_post.conf: * changed qemu to use atstage helper
12:56 < CIA-18> amery * r16115 /trunk/package/editors/nvi/nvi.conf: * changed nvi to use atstage helper
12:57 < CIA-18> amery * r16116 /trunk/package/filesystem/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs.conf: * changed e2fsprogs to use atstage helper
12:58 < CIA-18> aldas * r16117 /trunk/package/network/amule/ (amule.conf amule.desc config.hlp config.in): * updated amule (2.1.0 -> 2.1.1)
13:00 < CIA-18> aldas * r16118 /trunk/package/develop/boost-jam/ (boost-jam.conf boost-jam.desc): * updated boost-jam (3.1.11 -> 3.1.12)
13:00 < jsaw> bbl, cu
13:00 < morfoh> cu jsaw 
13:04 < CIA-18> aldas * r16119 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/ (gnupg2.conf gnupg2.desc): * updated gnupg2 (1.9.19 -> 1.9.20)
13:07 < CIA-18> amery * r16120 /trunk/package/base/binutils/binutils.conf: * changed binutils to use (mostly) atstage helper
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13:09 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 19:15:33 2004
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13:10 < CIA-18> amery * r16121 /trunk/package/network/iproute2/iproute2.conf: * changed iproute2 to use atstage helper
13:11 < CIA-18> amery * r16122 /trunk/package/network/curl/curl.conf: * changed curl to use atstage helper
13:12 < CIA-18> amery * r16123 /trunk/package/network/ipvsadm2/pkg_linux-header_pre.conf: * changed ipvsadm2 to use atstage helper
13:14 < CIA-18> amery * r16124 /trunk/package/network/hostap/ (pkg_linux24_post.conf pkg_linux24benh_post.conf): * changed hostap to use atstage helper
13:15 < CIA-18> amery * r16125 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.conf: * changed perl to use atstage helper
13:17 < CIA-18> amery * r16126 /trunk/package/scientific/comedi-driver/pkg_linux24_post.conf: * changed comedi-driver to use atstage helper
13:20 < CIA-18> aldas * r16127 /trunk/package/python/pyopengl/ (. pyopengl.cache pyopengl.desc): * added pyopengl (2.0.2.01) - OpenGL bindings for Python
13:20 < Baldzius> --^ i hope this 'll make my friend to switch from slack to t2 :)
13:21 < CIA-18> amery * r16128 /trunk/misc/jailing/jail-functions: * changed the abandoned jail-functions to use atstage helper
13:22 < mnemoc> Baldzius: :)
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13:28 < CIA-18> amery * r16129 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * changed most functions from functions.in to use atstage helper
13:31 < CIA-18> amery * r16130 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * introduced hasflag helper to see if a package has a flag or not
13:39 < CIA-18> amery * r16131 /trunk/package/base/gcc/parse-config: * changed gcc to use hasflag helper
13:40 < CIA-18> amery * r16132 /trunk/package/base/make/parse-config: * changed make to use hasflag helper
13:40 < CIA-18> amery * r16133 /trunk/package/base/automake/parse-config: * changed automake to use hasflag helper
13:40 < CIA-18> amery * r16134 /trunk/package/base/libtool/parse-config: * changed libtool to use hasflag helper
13:41 < CIA-18> amery * r16135 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/parse-config: * changed java-dirtree to use hasflag helper
13:53 < CIA-18> aldas * r16136 /trunk/package/multimedia/libzvbi/libzvbi.desc: * updated libzvbi (0.2.17 -> 0.2.19)
14:34 < CIA-18> aldas * r16137 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.0.4 -> 1.0.8)
14:34 < CIA-18> aldas * r16138 /trunk/package/base/numactl/numactl.desc: * updated numactl (0.9.2 -> 0.9.3)
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15:01 < mnemoc> Stelz: what your quit message means to you?
15:02 < Stelz> to me? :( )
15:04 < Baldzius> mnemoc: we need new mirror for gnu.org, don't know which one to pick
15:05 < Stelz> mnemoc: try to talk with morfoh ;) he 'll explain smthng to u
15:06 < mnemoc> Baldzius: one which gets updated fast and with decent throughput
15:07 < Baldzius> i wish i knew :/
15:07 < mnemoc> what for a release and try to catch one mirror with the file :)
15:07 < mnemoc> s/what/wait/
15:08 < mnemoc> Stelz: wonderful human being   or wonderful, humans beings?
15:08 < Baldzius> looks like fishing without the bait
15:08 < mnemoc> wonderful, human beings? *
15:09 < mnemoc> Baldzius: just change it to one which works
15:10 < Stelz> mnemoc: wonderful human beings :)
15:11 < mnemoc> Stelz: so it's you talking to the human beings?
15:12 < Stelz> yep
15:12 < Stelz> http://www.discogs.com/release/136812
15:12 < Stelz> :>
15:13 < mnemoc> i should have guess it, trash music
15:13 < Stelz> u dunno
15:14 < mnemoc> :)
15:14  * Stelz pokes mnemoc
15:15 < Stelz> http://www.discogs.com/release/409167
15:15 < Stelz> :>
15:15 < Stelz> Style:	 Hard Trance
15:15 < Stelz> :>
15:15 < mnemoc> ok
15:41 < CIA-18> aldas * r16139 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: 
15:41 < CIA-18> * changed (download translation) mirror for gnu.org - old one
15:41 < CIA-18>  doesn't work.
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16:02 < CIA-18> aldas * r16140 /trunk/package/graphic/ocrad/ (gcc41.patch ocrad.desc): 
16:02 < CIA-18> * updated ocrad (0.13 -> 0.14)
16:02 < CIA-18> * added gcc41.patch
16:04 < CIA-18> aldas * r16141 /trunk/package/network/dbus/dbus.conf: 
16:04 < CIA-18> * enable dbus's python bindings if python presented - needed
16:04 < CIA-18>  for avahi
16:06 < CIA-18> aldas * r16142 /trunk/package/network/avahi/avahi.desc: * updated avahi (0.6.5 -> 0.6.9)
16:22 < morfoh> re
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17:31 < sepp> huuhuu
17:31 < sepp> :)
17:35 < owl> hi sepp 
17:36 < sepp> hi owl 
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18:39 < CIA-18> aldas * r16143 /trunk/package/editors/amyedit/amyedit.desc: * updated amyedit (0.9 -> 1.0)
18:39 < CIA-18> aldas * r16144 /trunk/package/games/toppler/ (toppler.conf toppler.desc): * updated toppler (1.1.1 -> 1.1.2a)
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18:51 < CIA-18> aldas * r16145 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.2.8 -> 2.2.9)
18:53 < CIA-18> aldas * r16146 /trunk/package/ruby/mod_ruby/ (apache22.patch mod_ruby.desc): 
18:53 < CIA-18> * updated mod_ruby (1.2.4 -> 1.2.5)
18:53 < CIA-18> * removed apache22.patch - obsolete
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19:24 < CIA-18> aldas * r16147 /trunk/package/emulators/hercules/hercules.desc: * updated hercules (3.03.1 -> 3.04)
19:25 < CIA-18> aldas * r16148 /trunk/package/network/pound/ (config.hlp config.in postsysfiles.in pound.conf pound.desc): * updated pound (2.0.1 -> 2.0.4)
20:40 < rxr_> re
20:41 < rxr_> that was much business talking ...
20:41 -!- You're now known as rxr
20:41 < mnemoc> but was it good to go?
20:41 < rxr> well, we still need to gather way more information ...
20:42 < rxr> at least I now know where to find venture capital people ,-))
20:42 < mnemoc> :D
20:42 < rxr> (among other)
21:00 < rxr> mnemoc: how was your afternoon ?
21:03 < CIA-18> aldas * r16149 /trunk/package/scientific/maxima/ (maxima.conf maxima.desc): * updated maxima (5.9.2 -> 5.9.3)
21:04 < CIA-18> aldas * r16150 /trunk/package/mail/sendmail/ (12 files): * updated sendmail (8.13.5 -> 8.13.6)
21:04 < rxr> heh
21:04 < rxr> we are back on track
21:04 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
21:04 < rxr> cu - then
21:04 < Baldzius> cu rxr
21:05 < mnemoc> re
21:06 < Baldzius> wb mnemoc :)
21:06 < mnemoc> rxr: fine, having fun with T2 :)
21:06 < mnemoc> cu rxr
21:06 < mnemoc> thanks Baldzius 
21:15 < rxr> I hope real fun
21:20 < mnemoc> more fun will come tomorrow :)
21:20 < mnemoc> have you seen the '?' stage mark rock use?
21:20 < mnemoc> OT: rock added plx's linux-headers
21:28 < mnemoc> tomorrow i'll try to move pkgconfig to stage 1
21:29 < mnemoc> Error logs from azazel-2.2.0-alpha-x86-athlon-xp-azazel:
21:29 < mnemoc> 618 builds total, 350 completed fine, 0 with errors.
21:29 < mnemoc> ^---- my desktop keeps compiling
21:33 < mnemoc> to move pkgconfig to stage 0 i mean :(
21:39 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping
21:51 < CIA-18> sebastian * r16151 /trunk/package/develop/libsigsegv/ (. libsigsegv.cache libsigsegv.desc): * added libsigsegv (2.2) - A library for handling page faults
21:51 < CIA-18> sebastian * r16152 /trunk/package/develop/clisp/ (bindings-glibc-fix.patch clisp.cache clisp.desc): * updated clisp (2.34 -> 2.38)
21:52 < sepp> please test clisp, i used it to bootstrap sbcl - but maybe it still freaks out all the time :)
21:55 < sepp> it is still default disabled ...
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22:03 < sepp> hello :)
22:03 < mnemoc> wb sepp :)
22:04 < sepp> thanks 
22:07 < mnemoc> F*
22:07 < mnemoc> i closed the term which was doing my build :(
22:09 < sepp> :'(
22:17  * mnemoc started to read LFS 6 years after the first time
22:18 < mnemoc> everything looks so trival now :p
22:24 < sepp> i think t2 needs such a easy to understand doc.
22:25 < mnemoc> *ACK*
22:34 < sepp> maybe even some "screencast" / "flash" crap
22:43 < mnemoc> there is a vnc2swf thing iirc
22:49 < sepp> i made some videos with xvidcap but the sound sync was broken all the time :/
22:58 < CIA-18> amery * r16153 /trunk/ (17 files in 10 dirs): 
22:58 < CIA-18> * moved target's image output formats from target/ to misc/target/output/
22:58 < CIA-18>  because they are not targets, they are features you can apply to targets
22:59 < sepp> good night * :)
22:59 < mnemoc> gn8 sepp :)
23:01 < CIA-18> amery * r16154 /trunk/misc/target/output/pkgdist/ (config.in preconfig.in): * adapted pkgdist image format to show it's config options
23:02 < CIA-18> amery * r16155 /trunk/misc/target/output/install/preconfig.in: 
23:02 < CIA-18> * removed preconfig.in file from misc/target/output/install, thze registration
23:02 < CIA-18>  is automatic now
23:03 < jsaw> re
23:03 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 
23:03 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 
23:03 < jsaw> mnemoc: apropos sam...
23:04 < jsaw> how do you want to handle ipc ? I mean, especially configure stuff needs some interaction.
23:04 < CIA-18> amery * r16156 /trunk/misc/target/output/livecd/preconfig.in: 
23:04 < CIA-18> * removed preconfig.in file from misc/target/output/livecd, the registration
23:04 < CIA-18>  is automatic now
23:04 < mnemoc> what do you have in mind?
23:05 < jsaw> honestly?
23:05 < jsaw> *no idea*
23:06 < mnemoc> i have the hope we could hide everything on the gdb-alike engine
23:06 < jsaw> so, for example 
23:06 < mnemoc> and optionally doing something client/server like screen and SCREEN
23:06 < jsaw> sam config target-so-and-so
23:06 < jsaw> sends the menu out
23:07 < jsaw> the client reads the menu, and sends the respective decision back?
23:07 < mnemoc> stdin/stdout :)
23:07 < mnemoc> or you think we need somehitn more complex?
23:08 < jsaw> It should definitely go via stdin/stdout. The question is, if it should be interactive.
23:08 < jsaw> the example above can be done both ways
23:08 < mnemoc> i think we need 'interactive' for performance reasons
23:08 < jsaw> good point
23:08 < mnemoc> the 'engine' is loaded just once
23:09 < jsaw> so, sam core has to have some simple CLI definition capabilities...
23:09 < mnemoc> yes
23:10 < jsaw> hmmm.
23:10 < jsaw> the interactive ui thing is a tough one.
23:11 < mnemoc> we don'T need "readline", just simple string parsing
23:11 < mnemoc> it will be the backend for a software, not for a person
23:11 < jsaw> yeah. for sure. readline would be only for shell-like CLI, that you want to avoid...
23:11 < jsaw> (slowly getting the idea behind "gdb-alike")
23:11 < mnemoc> :)
23:15 < mnemoc> and what do you think?
23:15 < Stelz> hehe
23:15 < Stelz> fluxbox 0.9.15 released
23:15 < Stelz> :>
23:16 < jsaw> mnemoc: client/server or frontend/backend, respectively, is the most clean solution (esp. to enable graphical UI)
23:17 < mnemoc> Stelz: it was updated on t2 more gthan hundred revisions ago
23:18 < Stelz> mnemoc: ?
23:18 < Stelz> / New Release: 0.9.15 /  2006.03.23-03:00 
23:18  * Stelz Date/Time is now [ Thu Mar 23 02:19:54 ]
23:18 < mnemoc> r16048 | aldas | 2006-03-21 14:45:52 +0100 (mar, 21 mar 2006) | 2 lines
23:18 < mnemoc> * updated fluxbox (0.9.14 -> 0.9.15)
23:19 < mnemoc> jsaw: with the client/server thing i was going even further
23:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: http://www.bsdinstaller.org/screenshots.html
23:19 < mnemoc> jsaw: i was thinking in the case of remote monitoring of a building process
23:19 < mnemoc> jsaw: where your backend has to connect itself to the 'build monitor'
23:20 < mnemoc> jsaw: for example, an eclipse interface for Config/Build/Distribute
23:20 < Stelz> mnemoc: ..
23:21 < mnemoc> .oO( CGI based installer??! )o
23:22 < jsaw> no
23:22 < jsaw> only frontend
23:22 < mnemoc> Stelz: T2 is faster than your source :)
23:22 < Stelz> my source is official
23:22 < Stelz> fluxbox.org
23:22 < Stelz> don't care
23:22 < Stelz> ;)
23:22 < mnemoc> Stelz: but slow :)
23:22 < Stelz> 02:24 | Stelz> don't care
23:22 < Stelz> :)
23:23 < Stelz> lol
23:23 < jsaw> mnemoc: this installer does exactly this frontend-backend ipc to setup the system...
23:23 < mnemoc> ic
23:24 < jsaw> with sam (the way it is intended) we could do exactly the same by using some html widget - and have a graphical installer
23:25 < jsaw> or even using simply links or so...
23:25 < mnemoc> :)
23:25 < mnemoc> the hard part is to implement sam this way :p
23:26 < jsaw> not the core. but the modules...
23:28 < CIA-18> aldas * r16157 /trunk/package/network/scmxx/scmxx.desc: * updated scmxx (0.8.2 -> 0.9.0)
23:28 < mnemoc> it'S great to see Dr. J. sharing my view :)
23:28 < jsaw> :)
23:28 < Stelz> mnemoc: 1 easy question
23:28 < Stelz> :)
23:29 < Stelz> could i compile t2 on netbsd? :P
23:29 < jsaw> mnemoc: but I think this is pretty much UNIX philosophy...
23:29 < jsaw> mnemoc: so not a real surprise ?
23:30 < CIA-18> aldas * r16158 /trunk/package/audio/soundtracker/soundtracker.desc: * updated soundtracker (0.6.7 -> 0.6.8)
23:30 < CIA-18> aldas * r16159 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.12 -> 2.2.13)
23:30 < mnemoc> jsaw: of course there is nothing new on it
23:31 < mnemoc> Stelz: crosscompile, maybe
23:32 < mnemoc> jsaw: but it doesn't exist something like this for the purpose we want
23:34 < mnemoc> anyway, for me it's time to go to sleep :p
23:34 < jsaw> k.
23:34 < Stelz> :>
23:34 < Stelz> 'night, mnemoc ;>
23:34 < jsaw> sleep well mnemoc 
23:34 < mnemoc> jsaw: will i see an update sam tomorrow? ,-)
23:35 < mnemoc> updated*
23:36 < mnemoc> ok, gn8 Stelz, morfoh, Baldzius and Dr. J. :)
23:36 < mnemoc> cu tomorrow
23:36 < Stelz> cu today 4 me :>
23:36 < Baldzius> gn8 mnemoc
23:37 < mnemoc> Stelz: tomorrow begins after i wake up :)
23:37 < mnemoc> bye ,-)
23:38 < Stelz> tomorrow for u
23:38 < Stelz> but not for me
23:38 < Stelz> :>
23:38 < Stelz> cya
23:38 < Stelz> ;)
23:41 < morfoh> gn8 mnemoc :)
23:42  * morfoh is drinking the last cup of his "good night tea" and will go sleep too
23:43 < Stelz> 'night all
23:43  * Stelz dropped to bed..
23:43 < morfoh> Stelz: night stelz-o-maniac :)
23:43 < morfoh> sleep well :)
23:43 < Stelz> morfoh: :)
23:45 < morfoh> Error logs from ref-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-generic:
23:45 < morfoh> 4475 builds total, 255 completed fine, 0 with errors.
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