--- Log opened Mon Mar 20 00:00:54 2006
00:01 < keinek> morfoh, upload...
00:04 < keinek> http://personales.ciudad.com.ar/t2-project/1-dietlibc.err
00:04 < keinek> :)
00:05 < keinek> i want to compile t2 for my athlon 64 bit.
00:05 < keinek> :)
00:07 < keinek> morfoh, is the only place that i can found.
00:07 < morfoh> keinek: on what system you're building on ?
00:08 < morfoh> on your "old" 32bit host ?
00:08 < keinek> yes
00:08 < keinek> an athlon t2 optimice.
00:08 < morfoh> keinek: did you enabled cross-compile ?
00:08 < keinek> this is one of thing that i want to question.
00:09 < keinek> yes
00:09 < morfoh> keinek: unfortunately I've absloutely no experience with AMD64 :(
00:09 < keinek> in cross-compile fail, in the same stage, some packet, but i dont know if is the same error.
00:09 < keinek> we have some ISO for Athlon 64 prebuilt?
00:10 < keinek> i will test cross-compile in a duron.
00:10 < morfoh> keinek: have you checked the download location ... not quite sure if we've a offical ISO for AMD64
00:11 < morfoh> I mean at gsmp.tfh-berlin.de
00:11 < morfoh> keinek: is c-compiler multilib support enabled in Config ?
00:12 < keinek> http://personales.ciudad.com.ar/t2-project/cpuinfo.txt <-- my cpu
00:12 < keinek> wait, i will take a look :P
00:13 < keinek> this is in expert only?
00:13 < morfoh> yes
00:14 < keinek> =*=  <-- what is that?
00:15 < keinek> what is it
00:15 < morfoh> keinek: ok ... it seems to be enabled by default while choosing the architecture :p
00:15 < morfoh> keinek: ok ... I was expecting sth. like that :p
00:16 < keinek> :P
00:16 < morfoh> keinek: I think I'm not able to help you at the moment, sorry ... please send a mail with the .err log to the ML 
00:18 < keinek> ok
00:18 < keinek> i think that a good idea is download a iso for 64 bit form berlin.de
00:19 < morfoh> keinek: hopefully we'll get an offical 64 bit ISO soon 
00:19 < keinek> from me?
00:20 < morfoh> no! for users like you :)
00:22 < keinek> now, is no one iso for 64 bits?
00:24 < morfoh> keinek: I cannot find one :/
00:25 < morfoh> keinek: perhaps there is sth. like a 64 bit aware livecd from another distribution which you can use to build your T2 :/
00:26 < morfoh> keinek: but, because I don't have a 64 bit system at hand right now I cannot say much about it ... sorry 
00:27 < morfoh> and the others are  sleeping yet :/
00:29 < keinek> anyway thanks morfoh 
00:30 < keinek> anybody have a 64 bit computer?
00:30 < morfoh> keinek: you're welcome 
00:30 < morfoh> keinek: yeah ... of course. misl for example
00:30 < morfoh> keinek: and rxr too
00:30 < keinek> ok, i will talk to him.
00:30 < keinek> rxr?
00:30 < keinek> Mmmm
00:30 < morfoh> keinek: do that
00:30 < keinek> rxr, HEY MAN! WAKE UP!!! 
00:30 < morfoh> :)
00:31 < keinek> COME ON!!!
00:31 < morfoh> keinek: no chance ... I guess
00:31 < keinek> TODAY is A GOOD DAY!!!
00:31 < keinek> :(
00:31 < keinek> COME ON SOLDIER!
00:31 < keinek> :P
00:32 < keinek> you know... a long time ago, i was calling rxr from argentina by ip phone.
00:32 < keinek> jajaja
00:32 < keinek> hahaha
00:32 < keinek> he speak a correct english... but me... a disaster.
00:33 < keinek> but i can tell him "all thanks" for you support in t2.
00:33 < keinek> :P
00:33 < keinek> with my bad english, but he understand.
00:34 < keinek> morfoh, t2 is a good project :)
00:34 < morfoh> keinek: yes! I know ... thx ;)
01:08 < sparc-kly_> keinek: :P
01:10 < sparc-kly_> model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ :) 
01:10 < sparc-kly_> nice
01:53 < keinek> sparc-kly_, yes... but i cant compile a t2 for that :'(
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06:07 < rxr> re
06:07 < morfoh> good morning rxr 
06:10 < rxr> moin morfoh 
06:10 < morfoh> moin moin
06:12 < morfoh> rxr: can I remove stuff using regex from flist ?
06:23 < rxr> yes
06:23 < rxr> flistdel
06:23 < rxr> what do you wanna delete ?
06:23  * rxr backery
06:33 < morfoh> rxr: I think we'll still need gstreamer-0.8 for compatibility, and I'd like to remove stuff from $bindir that doesn't end with a version number
06:34 < morfoh> to not getting conflicts between both versions 
06:56 < rxr> I would patch stuf for gstreamer
06:56 < rxr> it is totally superflous to keep versions of this a) minor crap and b) long obsolete crap
06:57 < morfoh> rxr: if you take a look at the regression you'll have much to do patching all the stuff to work with gstreamer
06:59 < morfoh> rxr: anyhow ... I think next time we should "branch out" for testing things like this gnome update ...
06:59 < morfoh> checking what really happens instead of messing it up ... even if it's trunk
07:00 < morfoh> but I thought we wanted to stabilize the tree for an -rc
07:15 < mnemoc> i found my pen!
07:15 < mnemoc> thanks morfoh/sepp for returning it during the night
07:15 < morfoh> mnemoc: yw :)
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07:16 < jsaw> http://htp20.homeip.net/~jsaw/collarbone.jpg
07:16 < mnemoc> outch
07:16 < mnemoc> how was that?
07:17 < jsaw> don't know exactly. Either she fell out of the bed or it broke in the bed (after she fell from bike the day before)
07:17 < morfoh> jsaw: outch
07:17 < morfoh> jsaw: I had that too when I felt from bike years ago
07:18  * jsaw never broke a single bone
07:18 < jsaw> but that one must be painful
07:18 < jsaw> yet, children seem to take stuff like that much more easy
07:18 < mnemoc> and even more for a children
07:19 < mnemoc> have you seen a dog with a broken leg?
07:19 < morfoh> jsaw: I was specialist in breaking my bones
07:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: no
07:19 < jsaw> morfoh: oh?
07:19 < morfoh> jsaw: and this one really hurts if you have to go to doc with it
07:20 < mnemoc> jsaw: they just look at the leg without understand what is happening to them
07:20 < mnemoc> jsaw: and they try to keep going
07:20 < jsaw> oh my
07:20 < mnemoc> i think it's similar for the children
07:21 < jsaw> not really. Marlene knows a lot about bones and organs already...
07:22 < mnemoc> but not about phisical pain
07:22 < jsaw> she finds the x-ray really funny
07:22 < mnemoc> :)
07:22 < rxr> morfoh: trunk is trunk
07:22 < mnemoc> but we want 2.2-rc1 some day right?
07:22 < jsaw> mnemoc: well, considering the fact that she had quite some "bruises" already, I think she knows...
07:23 < morfoh> rxr: so we don't take care on trunk ? or what ?
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07:23 < jsaw> mnemoc: like falling on their teeth, two of them almost lost...
07:23 < Stelz> hi all
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07:24 < rxr> morfoh: gnome updates are gnome updates
07:24 < morfoh> rxr: sorry ... but this gnome update was a *beep*
07:25 < rxr> makeing a branch for every update creates submaster a-like conditions where they are not tested by anyone but the one working on it and final merging messy due to conflicts on merge back
07:25 < morfoh> rxr: it isn't just solely the gnome update, even the unchecked things and missed commits
07:25 < rxr> jsaw: oh - too bad
07:25 < morfoh> rxr: was it really tested 
07:25 < morfoh> ?
07:25 < jsaw> rxr: ...
07:25 < rxr> noone said it was tested
07:25 < jsaw> okay guys, gotta care for her... cu later
07:25 < morfoh> rxr: was it build before ?
07:25 < rxr> susan committed it into the devel tree to testbuild it beside on ppc on x86 also
07:26 < rxr> also gnome does not work in t2 since 2.8 IIRC
07:26 < rxr> she is making yet another attempt to hunt this when 2.14 built
07:26 < morfoh> cu jsaw ... hope that little Marlene gets well soon :)
07:27 < rxr> jsaw, one question
07:27 < rxr> regarding mozilla.org stuff in opt/mozilla.org
07:27 < rxr> jsaw: why did you do this ?
07:27 < rxr> also if you talk about misses commits those packages where not idenified by the update checkers or have not been on the server at that time
07:28 < rxr> morfoh: I do not understand why you morron about this at all, I would be happy that we all do our part to get stuff updated
07:28 < rxr> if it would be a branch it most probably would have taken 3 times the time to fix all this
07:28 < rxr> especially when susan would just be building on a 900Mhz iBook and Geode LX 700
07:29 < morfoh> rxr: a) I'm not morron ... b) did I say that I'm not happy that everyone is doing some stuff ?
07:30 < morfoh> rxr: and really ... I doubt that the gnome people didn't had the core parts available at the same time 
07:31 < morfoh> anyhow ... /me don't care about gnome ... I just wanted to discuss the thing
07:31 < morfoh> r15950 | chris | 2006-03-17 01:36:48 +0100 (Fri, 17 Mar 2006) | 2 lines
07:31 < morfoh> * updated glib (2.8.6 -> 2.10.1)
07:31 < morfoh> ^ this was after the update
07:32 < mnemoc> .oO
07:33 < morfoh> rxr: I'm not the big gnome master but I thought that the glib is some kind of gnome core
07:34 < mnemoc> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/platform/2.14/2.14.0/sources/MD5SUMS-for-bz2 <--- it is here
07:35 < rxr> glib are just c helpers and object a-like junk
07:35 < rxr> even irssi uses those ...
07:35 < rxr> they have nothing todo with gnome and 2.14 started to build without that update
07:36 < rxr> morfoh: you are free to write an howto automatically update the gnome packages with this major versions per sub-direcory layout
07:36 < rxr> from what I see this is a PITA with the current update helpers in t2
07:38 < morfoh> rxr: anyhow ... I think it's not a thing of the update notification script
07:38 < morfoh> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/platform/2.14/2.14.0/sources/ <-- take a look there
07:38 < rxr> IIRC: platform is not all but the bare minimum and also this still does not inject the URLs in the packages
07:39 < rxr> or if you wanna use that url you must change all the urls with each release as well and miss intermediate versions
07:39 < morfoh> rxr: ack ... it's the _minimum_
07:39 < morfoh> afaics
07:40 < rxr> morfoh: noone forces you to do develop - you could use a stable tree if you do not want to have that much work
07:41 < morfoh> rxr: thank you for the reminder 
07:43 < morfoh> rxr: really ... that is not fair, I just wanted to help ... I wanted to lift that topic on a personal level
07:43 < morfoh> not
07:44 < morfoh> I neither blamed you neither susann and I'll never do so
07:44 < morfoh> I just wanted to discuss that issue ... 
07:45  * rxr wonders why all mozilla a-like stuff goes into /opt/mozila.org now
07:45 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you have against that?
07:46 < mnemoc> why all kde a-like stuff goes into /opt/kde ? or gnome2? ....
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07:47 < mnemoc> i guess jsaw did it for consistency
07:47 < rxr> mnemoc: formerly it was opt/firefox, opt/thunderbird, ...
07:47 < mnemoc> i know
07:47 < rxr> this are all seperate products
07:47 < rxr> and breaks running systems
07:48 < mnemoc> how does it break the running systems?
07:51 < mnemoc> isn'T it just matter of de-installing the previous version and installing the new one? or there are more side-effects?
07:51 < rxr> you stil get the former thunderbird and co due to still linger in the path
07:52 < rxr> mine -r removes both and you can then waste cycles rebuild them again
07:52 < rxr> aside that you first wonder and search why you get the old ones still ...
07:52 < mnemoc> etc/profile added opt/thunderbird to your path
08:06 < mnemoc> morfoh: can you take a look into: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Pg90df99.html ?
08:06 < morfoh> mnemoc: sure
08:06 < mnemoc> oops... it's buggy
08:07 < mnemoc> line 13 should be if [ -d "$confdir" ]; then
08:08 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qvBOAw97.html   now it shjould work at least for platform's MD5SUMS file
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08:12 < rxr> mnemoc: I know where opt/thunderbird is placed into the PATH
08:13 < rxr> mnemoc: why do you specially note this ?
08:13 < mnemoc> <rxr> aside that you first wonder and search why you get the old ones still ...
08:14 < rxr> mnemoc: of course you first have to fid out that you know have a /opt/mozilla.org dir where it was installed into which was not the case on the last 4 year of ROCK / T2 ...
08:21 < rxr> have you prepared t2 packages for the two audio player you wrote the news about ?
08:23 < mnemoc> one we have it, the other no... i have have package but i don'T compile in my box becasue it needs gtk 2.10 and i only have 2.8 here
08:23 < mnemoc> but i can commit anyway
08:25 < rxr> yes, please
08:25 < rxr> so I do not need to finish the package
08:30 < CIA-18> amery * r16013 /trunk/package/audio/bmp/ (. bmp.conf bmp.desc): * added bmp (0.14.1) - Beep Media Player
08:30 < mnemoc> pff, new release 0.14.1.1
08:30 < rxr> good for the commit graph
08:30 < rxr> I can update
08:30 < rxr> while building
08:31 < mnemoc> thanks
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08:32 < mnemoc> 3 releases on one day, amazing :)
08:33 < Stelz> still rehi...
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08:33 < mnemoc> hi Stelz[work] 
08:34 < morfoh> hi Stelz[work] 
08:34 < Stelz[work]> :)
08:34 < Stelz[work]> hi morfoh, mnemoc :)
08:35 < morfoh> :)
08:36 < mnemoc> anyone knows to concatenate on lua?
08:38 < mnemoc> print ('foo' .. 'bar' )   .oO
08:42 < CIA-18> chris * r16014 /trunk/package/mail/qmail/qmail.desc: * updated qmail ldap patch (1.03-20050401a -> 1.03-20060201)
08:44 < mnemoc> Ihr CallYa-Team spamming my new phone :(
08:45 < jsaw> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.16
08:45 < mnemoc> go for it :)
08:45 < jsaw> rxr: sorry that you didn't notice the mozilla.org change, but you were here when mnemoc and I discussed this...
08:45 < rxr> jsaw: opt/mozilla.org comments ?
08:46 < jsaw> and it's the devel branch, you should put some "no major changes anymore" sticker on it, if you don't like such kind of major changes...
08:46 < rxr> jsaw: and what is the rational behind it ?
08:47 < rxr> jsaw: this is not my intention, as I also wrote gnome 2.14 updatery is gin
08:47 < rxr> fine
08:47 < jsaw> it's /opt/${vendor_path}
08:47 < rxr> nvu are quite different vendors ...
08:48 < rxr> also with seperate firefox, thunderbird sunrise (or what it was) those are seperate stuff, let alone the legacy sea monkey
08:48 < jsaw> yeah, but the base is identical
08:48 < rxr> but anyone but me likes this install path ?
08:48 < rxr> jsaw: xfce and gnome base also is identically ...
08:48 < mnemoc> i prefer the unified prefix for all mozilla products
08:49 < jsaw> xfce and gnome   ???
08:49 < jsaw> btw, I always thought that gtk and qt do not belong into /opt/*
08:50 < mnemoc> if you want xfce you get both /opt/gnome2 and /opt/xyfce :p
08:50 < jsaw> rxr: change it back if you don't want it ;)
08:50 < mnemoc> because gtk+ at t2 is considered gnome :(
08:50 < rxr> aside its gimp roots it is so
08:51 < rxr> jsaw: of course t2 is not me alone if you all like ths so much, well ...
08:51 < mnemoc> i don'T have any gnome or kde package istalled on this desktop
08:51 < jsaw> hehe :)
08:52 < rxr> firefox
08:54 < mnemoc> since when firefox is a gnome application?
08:54 < rxr> it is so dow slow and big it easily falls into the same category and use gtk+ likewise ,-))
08:55 < mnemoc> :)
08:55 < mnemoc> at least it works better than konqueror
08:56 < rxr> not that I know off
08:56 < jsaw> ok, gotta see the doc, cu later
08:57 < rxr> cu
08:57 < rxr> and good luck for your girl
08:57 < CIA-18> amery * r16015 /trunk/package/network/curl/curl.desc: * updated curl (7.15.2 -> 7.15.3)
08:58 < Stelz[work]> ?
08:58 < Stelz[work]> jsaw = girl?
08:58 < mnemoc> Stelz[work]: his daughter
08:58 < Stelz[work]> :)
09:02 < Stelz[work]> girls on t2.. nice :>
09:08 < mnemoc> misc/output/parse-config: eval: line 34: syntax error near unexpected token `('
09:08 < mnemoc> misc/output/parse-config: eval: line 34: `echo_errorquote_terminal $'===[bz2filename:71 (last $?=1)> sed -e \'s,\.tar$,\.tar.bz2,\' -e \'s,\.gpg$,,\' -e \'s,\.\(t\?\)\(gz\|Z\)$,.\1bz2,\'\n==[build_this_package:708 (last $?=0)> xsourceballs=\n==[build_this_package:709 (last $?=0)> \'[\' -z \'\' \']\'\n==[build_this_package:710 (last $?=0)> echo \'Can\'\\'\'t auto-detect srctar for package \'\\'\'sam\'\\'\'!\'\nCan\'t auto-detect srctar for packag
09:08 < mnemoc> ^--- sweeet
09:09 < rxr> hm - did not saw this in a long time
09:09 < rxr> this message passing as implemented in rock times is problematic
09:09 < rxr> I think it is not fixable due to bash limitations
09:09 < mnemoc> it has been changed a lot in the last two months
09:09 < rxr> it has been changed to work at all ...
09:10 < mnemoc> that "Can't auto-detect srctar for package" message use to work
09:10 < rxr> also formerly it was not used for normal screen printout
09:10 < rxr> mnemoc: worked and works here
09:10 < mnemoc> i'll try removing the '
09:10 < mnemoc> .oO
09:11 < mnemoc> so will we start with the 'works for me' policy?
09:12 < rxr> ohm
09:12 < rxr> bmp needs neon 0.25.5 ...
09:12 < rxr> my oh my ...
09:12 < rxr> and just for a screenshot ...
09:12 < mnemoc> :(
09:12 < mnemoc> sorry for that
09:12 < rxr> 09:11 < mnemoc> so will we start with the 'works for me' policy?
09:12 < rxr> ?
09:13 < mnemoc> [05:12:00] <rxr> mnemoc: worked and works here
09:13 < rxr> what did you want to tell me ?
09:14 < mnemoc> nothing, forget it
09:14 < rxr> this was not a "IT WORKS" but more a note that it used to work here and it is more like either your bash version or the combination of quotes in the print
09:15 < rxr> but as I said this quoting aroudn to let bash reget the message into a variable is filigran and not perfect
09:15 < rxr> and most probably never will be ...
09:15 < mnemoc> just forget it. this is a very rare case where the package doens't have any [D]
09:15 < rxr> formerly it did never show up (though more broken) because screen prints did not took the file descriptor path but got echoed immediatly
09:16 < rxr> mnemoc: I still think it used to work
09:16 < mnemoc> me too
09:17 < rxr> hm
09:17 < rxr> ok - happens here too, now
09:17 < rxr> so it is nor your bash version ,-)
09:18 < mnemoc> :)
09:19 < rxr> !> :fam_monitor.c:(.text+0x25f): undefined reference to `FAMNextEvent'
09:19 < rxr> !> beep_media_player_2_bin-fam_monitor.o: In function `fam_monitor_init':fam_monitor.c:(.text+0x616): unde ..
09:19 < rxr> !> :fam_monitor.c:(.text+0x62d): undefined reference to `FAMClose'
09:19 < rxr> !> :fam_monitor.c:(.text+0x677): undefined reference to `FAMClose'
09:19 < rxr> ouhm
09:19 < rxr> bmp starts to hit my nerves badly ...
09:19 < mnemoc> uhm
09:21 < rxr> hm -lfam missing in the Makeifle
09:21 < rxr> manual injection jelps ..
09:21 < rxr> helps
09:21 < mnemoc> doh
09:22 < rxr> so
09:26  * rxr rebuilding without dbus support, somehow it crashes with dbus support ...
09:27 < mnemoc> :(
09:28 < sepp> moin :)
09:29 < mnemoc> moin sepp 
09:29 < sepp> hi mnemoc 
09:30 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0603/44116.html
09:30 < mnemoc> :)
09:31 < mnemoc> René vine *G*
09:31 < mnemoc> google translator
09:33 < rxr> bmp sucks
09:33 < rxr> even without dbus it does not come up
09:33 < rxr> just does nothing ...
09:33 < rxr> crap thing ...
09:34 < Stelz[work]> ?!
09:34 < Stelz[work]> bmp ownz
09:34 < Stelz[work]> but.. bmpx
09:34 < mnemoc> i have been unable to run ekiga, and #ekiga blaims my broken gtk installation
09:34 < Stelz[work]> suckz :>
09:34 < mnemoc> bmp is dead, assume it
09:35 < Stelz[work]> yup.. but still work fine
09:35 < Stelz[work]> & i'll use it for a long time
09:35 < Stelz[work]> & i used it
09:35 < mnemoc> but you have audacious
09:35 < rxr> bmpx I mean of course
09:35 < Stelz[work]> ;)
09:35 < Stelz[work]> mnemoc: yup..
09:35 < Stelz[work]> but
09:35 < Stelz[work]> there is no audacious in pkgsrc now
09:35 < mnemoc> "In other words, BMPx is BMP, just not quite yet; yet it already is much more than BMP ever was."
09:35 < Stelz[work]> if it 'll be.. i'll install it :)
09:36 < mnemoc> Stelz[work]: install T2 and problem solved
09:36 < Stelz[work]> :)
09:36 < Stelz[work]> i switched from linux..
09:36 < rxr> #0  0x00002b8328712320 in gdk_pixbuf_get_width () from /opt/gnome2/lib64/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0
09:36 < rxr> #1  0x00000000004543c4 in bmp_splash_window_show ()
09:36 < rxr> #2  0x000000000041e747 in main ()
09:37 < rxr> Stelz[work]: from linux to what ?
09:37 < mnemoc> almost the same problme i have with ekiga
09:37 < mnemoc> pkgsrc -> netbsd
09:37 < Stelz[work]> to the best portable os with clean kernel code :)
09:37 < Stelz[work]> mnemoc: tru :)
09:38 < Stelz[work]> but... pkgsrc is ported to many os..
09:38 < Stelz[work]> not only NetBSd
09:44 < mnemoc> aaaarg.... lua lua lua... arg
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09:44 < mnemoc> oh
09:44 < mnemoc> web idealm 
09:44 < mnemoc> wb*
09:45 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
09:45 < idealm> mnemoc, is it me?
09:46 < mnemoc> welcome back idealm 
09:46 < idealm> Yeah.
09:47 < rxr> I meant arg lua lua lua ...
09:47 < mnemoc> rxr: i guess soon i'll have to start coding LUA extensions using the c api :\
09:48 < mnemoc> it was just to not say f* lua :)
09:55 < CIA-18> rene * r16016 /trunk/package/audio/bmp/bmp.conf: 
09:55 < CIA-18> * fixed bmp by injecting -lfam and fixed hal/dbus conditional to enable them
09:55 < CIA-18>  both at a time (they depend on eachother)
09:56 < CIA-18> rene * r16017 /trunk/package/audio/bmp/ (bmp.cache bmp.desc): * updated bmp (0.14.1 -> 0.14.1.1) and added bmp.cache
09:56 < Stelz[work]> ;>
09:56 < rxr> mnemoc: so not as good as first notes appeared to propose it?
09:56  * rxr to office - cu
09:57 < mnemoc> rxr: nah, it'S just a matter of getting used to it :)
10:00 < rxr> as to the opt/mozila.org prefix ?
10:00 < rxr> cu
10:00 < mnemoc> yes :)
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10:01 < Baldzius> moin
10:01 < mnemoc> woh, who is this one?
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10:02 < mtr> moin
10:03 < mnemoc> moin mtr, Baldzius :)
10:03 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc mtr
10:03 < mtr> moin mnemoc, Baldzius :)
10:04 < Stelz[work]> moin, Baldzius, mtr :)
10:04 < mtr> hi Stelz[work] :)
10:05 < Baldzius> hi Stelz
10:07 < mtr> sepp: thanks for the hint about xcfgt2, now i have the libGL* symlinks at the right place ;-)
10:09 < sepp> :)
10:09 < CIA-18> amery * r16018 /trunk/package/lua/luafilesystem/luafilesystem.desc: * updated luafilesystem (1.1 -> 1.2)
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10:32 < rxr> re
10:34 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0603/44122.html
10:35 < mnemoc> even with an screenshot??
10:36 < rxr> yes, one is rom t2
10:36 < rxr> the bmp I was not able to get running ...
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10:37 < mnemoc> it's my name on it, oh oh oh
10:38 < Stelz> lol
10:38  * Stelz pokes Stelz[work]
10:38  * Stelz pokes Stelz[away]
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10:43 < CIA-18> amery * r16019 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: * added translation to download from evolt.org
10:43 < rxr> Specs
10:43 < rxr> - Latest GENTOO (clean install)
10:43 < rxr> *lol*
10:43 < Stelz[work]> :)
10:43 < CIA-18> amery * r16020 /trunk/package/base/gcc/parse-config: * added pwlib and opal to SSP's exclusion list
10:49 < mnemoc> rxr: what was that?
10:56 < rxr> GENTOO ? from a X.org mailing list sniplet
10:56 < mnemoc> oh
10:59 < CIA-18> amery * r16021 /trunk/package/fonts/dejavu-ttf-fonts/ (. dejavu-ttf-fonts.conf dejavu-ttf-fonts.desc): * added dejavu-ttf-fonts (2.4) - a font family based on Bitstream Vera Fonts
11:04 < Stelz[work]> hehe
11:04 < Stelz[work]> terminus-font really ownz
11:04 < mnemoc> Dimitar's?
11:06 < Stelz[work]> yeah
11:07 < Stelz[work]> i still use it
11:07 < Stelz[work]> :)
11:07 < Stelz[work]> @ home & @ woek
11:07 < Stelz[work]> *work
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11:38 < LMJ_2> hello the chan
11:38 < rxr> hi LMJ_2 
11:39 < LMJ_2> i'm at work from my personnal cgi-bin IRC script ;)
11:42 < LMJ_2> anyway, i'm looking for sepp 
11:45 < Stelz[work]> lol
11:45  * Stelz[work] pokes Stelz
11:45 < Stelz[work]> hi, LMJ_2 
11:46 < Stelz[work]> Stelz @ home.. is flying.. becauseof my isp..
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11:54  * sepp looks around
11:55 < LMJ_2> hello sepp, you saw my PM ?
11:55 < sepp> no
11:55 < sepp> maybe you are not registered
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12:02 < morfoh> re
12:02 < rxr> wb morfoh 
12:02 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 
12:03 < morfoh> thx rxr + mnemoc ;)
12:07 < LMJ_2> hy mnemoc morfoh 
12:07 < LMJ_2> GTG, thanks guys, see you later
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12:07 < mnemoc> o_O
12:07 < rxr> mnemoc: ?
12:08 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. regarding SSP, maybe better not accumulate in the case, but a flag for packages ?
12:09 < mnemoc> the face was faces i was about to greet him when he left
12:09 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, that's an option
12:09 < rxr> I can do this if we want to
12:10 < mnemoc> ok, go for it :)
12:10 < mnemoc> NOSSP ?
12:10 < rxr> ack
12:14 < rxr> and remove linux24 in trunk I vote +1
12:18 < mnemoc> i have voting for that since 3-4 months ago :p
12:19 < rxr> I always saied yes, just noone did it ,-))
12:20 < mnemoc> *g*
12:21 < mnemoc> the fear to the 'you break it, you fix it' thing i guess
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12:28 < CIA-18> rene * r16022 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (adaptec-usbxchange.patch linux26.desc): * updated linux26 (2.6.15.6 -> 2.6.16)
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12:29 < mnemoc> morfoh: you didn't need to wait a couple of weeks for it, 2.6.16 is already here :)
12:29 < mnemoc> wb sepp 
12:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: ah! cool :)
12:37 < sepp> :)
12:37 < morfoh> hey sepp :)
12:38 < owl> .oO( don't tell me, that 2.6.16 is out now... )
12:38 < morfoh> hi owl :)
12:38 < owl> hi morfoh 
12:38 < sepp> hi morfoh, owl 
12:38 < owl> hi sepp 
12:38 < morfoh> owl: question: you are able to read ? or not ? :p
12:39 < owl> morfoh: yes, i fear i am... but i hope that i am sleeping and it's an alpmare... *sigh*
12:39  * morfoh hides to get not slaped by owl
12:39 < morfoh> owl: why ?
12:39 < owl> .oO( murphy really hates me... yesterday i compiled 2.6.15.6 on mithras... you should know: mithras is a celeron with 600 mhz... compile-nightmare... )
12:40 < owl> and: argh, it's fscking warm outside, especially if you're driving your bike... 
12:42 < morfoh> owl: I can't see any connection with a kernel update to 2.6.16 :)
12:43 < owl> morfoh: well... because it will take a while - and i am not a patient person... ;)
12:44 < morfoh> owl: but the connetion with weather is still outstanding ... anyhow you shouldn't have any heat problem with that CPU :)
12:45 < owl> morfoh: yes, weather is another story :p just my random-complaining-module was activated (and still is). nah, heat-problems i won't have for sure
12:45 < morfoh> :)
12:45 < morfoh> ok ... have to move away for some "minutes" ... bbl
12:45 < owl> greetz from esperanza
12:46 < owl> bye morfoh 
12:46 < morfoh> bye owl 
12:55 < owl> huch?
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13:11 < mnemoc> rxr_: shadow 4.0.15
13:12 < rxr_> yes - wanted to post the same
13:12 < rxr_> but I keep my fingers away from this junk
13:13 < owl> hi rxr_ 
13:14 < rxr_> hi owl 
13:14 < mnemoc> hi owlita
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13:47 < morfoh> re
13:48 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 
13:49 < morfoh> thx mnemoc 
14:08 < CIA-18> rene * r16023 /trunk/ (9 files in 9 dirs): 
14:08 < CIA-18> * introduced NO-SSP flag and moved per-package decision case out of
14:08 < CIA-18>  gcc/parse-config to the individual package .desc files, likewise
14:08 < CIA-18>  marked glibc32 on the way
14:11 < mnemoc> rxr_: the if-s don'T end with 'esac' :)
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14:13 < rxr_> .oO
14:13 < rxr_> I accidently coded it in the shell on noisy and did not wanted to further disturb my regtests there ...
14:13 < mnemoc> excuses :)
14:14 < mnemoc> == 15:17:30 =[9]=> Building develop/pwlib [1.10.0 2.2.0-alpha].
14:14 < mnemoc> *> the stack-protector wont be used for this package
14:14 < mnemoc> -> Parallel build using 2 jobs enabled.
14:14 < mnemoc> ^---- something like that?
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14:15 < rxr_> better start with a capital
14:16 < mnemoc> ok
14:16 < rxr_> Package incompatible with GCC strack-protector, disabled.
14:16 < rxr_> stack even
14:16 < mnemoc> ok
14:16 < rxr_> btw. backuping is an evil, invalid word
14:16 < rxr_> used at Config time
14:16 < mnemoc> i asked here
14:17 < mnemoc> and it was decided by the native speakers to use backuping instead of backing up
14:17 < rxr_> what ?
14:17 < mnemoc> here and at #pida, where all are .uk :p
14:17 < mnemoc> were
14:17 < rxr_> there even was an amusement about that word in a C/C++ users journal about such creationg .....
14:17 < rxr_> cretions
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14:18 < rxr_> 0 similar results for backuping
14:18 < mnemoc> :)
14:19 < rxr_> ok - google has  51,800 for backuping
14:19 < rxr_> but notheless I think the word is evil
14:23 < morfoh> rxr_: indeed that "backuping" sounds strange :)
14:23 < CIA-18> amery * r16024 /trunk/package/base/gcc/parse-config: * fixed typo on gcc/SSP flags-check, and added a warning message in the case the package is marked
14:23 < mnemoc> i know it sounds strange, that's why i asked
14:28 < rxr_> .oO (exact-code is currently inovating external case manufactors to start producing 5 1/4" external cases with sata to usb bridges ,-)
14:29 < mnemoc> o_O
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15:42 < morfoh> btw, I think claws should also have maildir because libetpan the framework it relies on supports maildir
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15:45 < mnemoc> :)
15:47 < CIA-18> chris * r16025 /trunk/package/mail/libetpan/ (. libetpan.cache libetpan.desc): * added libetpan (0.4.3)
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16:11 < CIA-18> chris * r16026 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed-claws/ (. sylpheed-claws.cache sylpheed-claws.desc): * added sylpheed-claws (2.0.0)
16:11 < mnemoc> fianlly
16:12 < morfoh> yeah ... my local "bitch" isn't that fast :p
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17:30 < sepp> hello
17:31 < morfoh> hi sepp 
17:31 < morfoh> ;)
17:31 < sepp> :)
17:38 < sepp> what is "https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/aqsis/trunk/aqsis" as .desc's [D] ?
17:38 < sepp> https ...
17:38 < mnemoc> svn+https... uhm
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17:39 < mnemoc> i guess it's not yet implemented on Download
17:39 < sepp> unrecognized!
17:39 < mnemoc> sepp: why the heck do you want an snapshot of aqsis???
17:39 < sepp> because they fixed gcc41 things etc
17:41 < mnemoc> :'(
17:41 < sepp> ?
17:41 < mnemoc> nothing
17:41 < sepp> lost your pen again? :)
17:41 < mnemoc> i just hope all the aqsis' dependers are happy with that
17:42 < sepp> aqsis dependers - there is one?
17:43 < sepp> grep aqsis package/*/*/*.cache -> 0
17:44 < mnemoc> .oO ....
17:44 < mnemoc> ok :)
17:47 < sepp> even author suggested to not use the old one ...
17:47 < mnemoc> ok ok
17:47 < mnemoc> do it
17:47 < mnemoc> but suggest the author do a release if the last release is not recommended
17:51 < sepp> (: hehehe
17:59 < CIA-18> amery * r16027 /trunk/package/base/sam/ (. sam.conf sam.desc sam.lua sam_config.lua): * added sam (0.0-devel) - System Administration Manager - Very early development in LUA
17:59 < mnemoc> brb
18:05 < morfoh> .oO( he really named it sam )o :(
18:46 < CIA-18> jsaw * r16028 /trunk/package/base/sam/sam.lua: * tiny (micro) optimization (or improved readability?)
18:49 < owl> re
18:49 < LMJ> hello owl 
18:49 < owl> hi LMJ 
18:51 < Stelz> hehe
18:52  * Stelz bought the public ip
18:52 < Stelz> :>
18:52 < Stelz> could anybody try my radio?
18:52 < LMJ> Webcast radio ?
18:52 < Stelz> webcast?
18:52 < Stelz> hmm.. maybe :)
18:53 < LMJ> go ahead
18:53 < Stelz> ?
18:54 < LMJ> i need your URL to try your webradio
18:55 < Stelz> :)
18:55  * Stelz Trance X Station Stats @ [ http://vex.oze.net:8000/ ]
18:55 < Stelz> argh
18:55  * Stelz Trance X Station @ [ http://vex.oze.net:8000/listen.ogg ]
18:55 < LMJ> ok, it works ;)
18:56 < LMJ> yes, pure trance
18:56 < LMJ> euro-trance ;)
18:56 < Stelz> just some track..
18:56 < Stelz> but /me is hardtrancer
18:56 < Stelz> :)
18:57 < LMJ> good
18:57 < Stelz> :>
18:57 < LMJ> so you know Shoutcast ?
18:57 < Stelz> i hate it
18:57  * Stelz on NetBSD
18:57 < Stelz> & i use icecast
18:57 < Stelz> :)
18:57 < LMJ> Shoutcast is a website
18:57 < Stelz> stats page will be soon
18:57 < Stelz> :)
18:58 < Stelz> yup.. i know
18:58 < LMJ> you will find a lot of radio in your aera
18:58 < Stelz> yeah
18:58 < LMJ> brb , dinner time
18:58 < Stelz> :)
18:59 < Stelz> cya
19:22 < mnemoc> rehi
19:23 < mnemoc> morfoh: it's not more than vaporware, can'T it have a friendly name? :)
19:24 < mnemoc> jsaw: thanks for the 'or' thing, i dind't know that
19:24 < Stelz> hi, mnemoc :)
19:24 < mnemoc> hi netbsd
19:24 < Stelz> i'll call u when it will be good time to listen to real trance on my station
19:24 < Stelz> L(
19:24 < Stelz> :)
19:25 < mnemoc> thanks for the reminder, i have to connect the speaker
19:25 < Stelz> :)
19:25 < mnemoc> but not for yout trace thing, of course
19:28 < Stelz> u dunno
19:28 < Stelz> :)
19:45 < rxr_> re
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19:48 < CIA-18> rene * r16029 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.conf: * fixed linux* so the LINUX_SUBMODULES_ONLY debug variable is effective, again
19:50 < rxr> oh
19:50 < rxr> ^- and fixed subpackage "failed" diagnostic output
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20:22 < Demian> re
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20:56 < rxr> 1~N8 ALL
20:57 < mnemoc> n8 rxr 
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21:33 < madtux> hey
21:35 < Demian> master madtux 
21:41 < owl> hi madtux , Demian 
21:58 < madtux> Hello my young paddawan
21:58 < madtux> owlita :)
22:00 < owl> *lol* 
22:00 < owl> hi madtux ;)
22:21 < CIA-18> aldas * r16030 /trunk/package/kde/krusader/ (. krusader.cache krusader.desc): 
22:21 < CIA-18> * added krusader (1.70.0) - An advanced twin panel (commander style)
22:21 < CIA-18>  file manager for KDE
22:28 < CIA-18> aldas * r16031 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.0.18 -> 5.0.19)
22:48 < morfoh> gn8
22:49 < morfoh> hi madtux ;)
22:49 < morfoh> bye bye ... have to sleep
22:49 < Baldzius> gn8 morfoh
23:05 < CIA-18> aldas * r16032 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: * Mysql download mirror url has changed in DownloadTranslations
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23:16 < Demian> icecast rulez
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23:21 < madtux> Demian, absolutetly
23:21 < madtux> :)
23:26 < CIA-18> aldas * r16033 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/ (compile-fix.patch gtk-sharp2.desc): 
23:26 < CIA-18> * updated gtk-sharp2 (2.4.0 -> 2.8.2)
23:26 < CIA-18> * removed compile-fix.patch - obsolete
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