--- Log opened Sun Mar 19 00:00:48 2006
00:02 < owl> .oO( creature of the night, eh? ;)
00:02 < Stelz> yup :)
00:02 < Stelz> like bat
00:02 < owl> haha *g*
00:02  * Stelz Date/Time is now [ Sun Mar 19 03:05:22 ]
00:02 < Stelz> :>
00:03 < owl> waeh. i would die. or so. or sometimes ;)
00:03 < owl> <- old wife 
00:03 < Stelz> :)
00:04 < owl> that is not funny... sigh. those are the men, stealing my walking-help... 
00:04 < Stelz> :/ i see..
00:05 < owl> *g* 
00:05 < owl> don't take me too serious today please, thx :p
00:05 < Stelz> :)
00:05 < owl> narf. no dead flies in my empty cup of tea... :(
00:06 < Stelz> owl: ..
00:06 < owl> Stelz: ? :)
00:06 < Stelz> nothin :)
00:06 < owl> i am used to the fact that there are suicidial flies normally floating arround in an half-empty cup of tea... well.. now the cup of tea is empty... and no flies... 
00:07 < Stelz> forget that flies..
00:07 < Stelz> *those
00:08 < owl> why? ;)
00:08 < Stelz> just live! :>
00:08 < owl> *sigh* yes. with an candle in my hands, walking through the house ... hrmpf ;)
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01:40 < Demian> hi
01:46 < Stelz> hi, Demian
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01:57 < madtux> hello
01:57 < Stelz> hi, madtux 
01:57 < madtux> Greetings Stelz 
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08:25 < rxr> moin
08:25 < rxr> jsaw: why did you change thunderbird and frinds to install all into opt/mozilla.org ???
08:42 < misl> morning all :)
08:43 < rxr> moin misl 
09:23 < rxr> misl: near your terminal ?
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10:17 < CIA-18> rene * r15992 /trunk/package/kde/yakuake/yakuake.desc: * updated yakuake (2.7.3 -> 2.7.4)
10:31 < rxr> I think I try otu my gcc-4.1 build on my humble hammer laptop
10:46 < rxr> Open Patch: 2006030913432709928 [by blindcoder]
10:46 < rxr>  
10:46 < rxr>  Benjamin Schieder:
10:46 < rxr>          untested try to get KDE from /opt/kde3 to /usr
10:47 < rxr> ^- huh ?
10:47 < mnemoc> o_O
10:48 < valentin> moin
10:48 < rxr> moin valentin 
10:48 < valentin> rxr: you still try to harvest sm ?
10:48 < mnemoc> moin valentin, rxr
10:48 < rxr> nope
10:48 < rxr> I did not looked into sm for a long time
10:48 < valentin> or reading it for amusement ?
10:48 < rxr> but I noticed a spike in their commit and took a look
10:49 < rxr> amusing mostly, yes
10:49 < rxr> but maybe we should do a copy all the packages they added day ...
10:49 < valentin> anyone updated asymptote yet ? otherwise i would like to go ahead now..
10:49 < rxr> and run the version comparator on the trees to get the 10 updates they have over t2 ,-))
10:49 < rxr> valentin: go go
10:50  * rxr trying out the gcc-4.1 based system
10:51 < valentin> i will go go after svn up terminated
10:54 < rxr> yeah ,-))
10:55 < CIA-18> rene * r15993 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added yakuake and exact-image to the desktop target
10:55 < rxr> valentin: btw. exact-image is quite nice now, especially edisplay ,-))
10:56 < rxr> also yakuake in the latest versions is claimed to no longer crash on quit
10:56 < rxr> if you still use another terminal, you mind want to start using this nice kde toy ,-))
10:59 < rxr> valentin: would you say this fftw* is not about multimedia but also used for scientific stuff?
10:59 < rxr> in that case we should move it from multimedia to scientific ...
11:01 < valentin> rxr: hard to tell... what scientific packages use fftw ?
11:01 < rxr> no idea - I was just sepculating
11:01 < CIA-18> rene * r15994 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/X11R7.patch: * hotfixed exact-image for modular X11R7 (-lXrender)
11:01 < rxr> octave
11:01 < rxr> orsa
11:01 < rxr> grace
11:02 < rxr> jamin ladspa-swh-plugins rezound wvstreams asymptote nip2 vips mythtv-plugins grace octave orsa
11:02 < valentin> interessting.
11:02 < rxr> I +1 for moving fftw* from multimedia to scientific from me
11:03 < valentin> +0.3 from me
11:03 < rxr> ok - me in the back moving my root partition over to my latest gcc-4.1 build
11:05 < rxr> cu
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11:32 < morfoh> hi
11:41 < valentin> what does <tab>-command do in a makefile ?
11:41 < CIA-18> rene * r15995 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh: * added reiser4 to the filesystem modules to be included into the initrd
11:43 < rxr> not print it IIRC
11:45 < mnemoc> not abort on failure
11:45 < mnemoc> @is not print
11:48 < CIA-18> valentin * r15996 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/ (3 files): * updated asymptote (0.99 -> 1.02)
11:48 < rxr> hm - why doesn't qmeu work on my box anymore ..
11:48 < rxr> strange
11:49 < CIA-18> valentin * r15997 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/ (dont_rebuild_ls-R.patch dont_rebuild_ls-R.patchdisabled): * rediffed and reenabled patch (sorry for that second commit)
11:54 < valentin> CIA ?
11:54 < valentin> sorry...
11:56 < valentin> almost r16k...
11:56 < mnemoc> go go go
12:02 < morfoh> http://trac.t2-project.org/ref/trunk/regressions.html <-- enough for "go go go"
12:04 < mnemoc> uhm
12:08 < morfoh> btw, gplflash2 is discontinued 
12:08 < morfoh> the developers are moving to gnash
12:08 < morfoh> just gplflash1 will be survive
12:09 < morfoh> so we've to decide what to do with our gplflash package
12:09 < mnemoc> oh
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12:44 < CIA-18> rene * r15998 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added xinit and rocknet to the desktop target
12:44 < Stelz> 'moin all :)
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12:45 < owl> hi Stelz 
12:45 < owl> moin all, too
12:52 < mnemoc> moin owlita
12:54 < sparc-kly> :P moin owl, mnemoc 
13:12 < Stelz> hi, sparc-kly
13:12 < Stelz> hello, owl, mnemoc :)
13:17 < mnemoc> rxr ping
13:17 < mnemoc> hi Stelz 
13:20 < owl> hi mnemoc , sparc-kly 
13:20 < rxr> pong
13:21 < owl> hi rxr 
13:22 < mnemoc> rxr: i sent you an email
13:22 < mnemoc> :)
13:23 < rxr> ah - have to wait some minutes because I resync my latest build onto my system partition ...
13:23 < mnemoc> :(
13:24 < mnemoc> does pwlib builds with gcc 3.4.5 for anyone?
13:25 < mnemoc> i get internal gcc error (cxx) building both 2.1's and trunk's version :(
14:02 < CIA-18> rene * r15999 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: 
14:02 < CIA-18> * added xauth, iceauth, xcursor-themes, xcursorgen, xset*,
14:02 < CIA-18>  setxkbmap, xkbcomp and xkbdata to the desktop target
14:02 < rxr> re
14:02 < rxr> so, X with HEAD up ad running
14:05 < mnemoc> rxr: have you seen morfoh's last reference?
14:06 < rxr> nope
14:07 < rxr> only the URL posted
14:10 < rxr> gcc (GCC) 4.1.0
14:10 < rxr> T2 SDE 2.2.0-alpha (2006/03/04)
14:15 < rxr> guess I should try to publish a livecd for all our major arches (x86, x86-64, ppc, ppc64) in the next week
14:15 < rxr> the reference does not look too bad considering what stuff we did to the trunk
14:16 < mnemoc> like?
14:17 < rxr> gcc-4.1, gnome-2.14, ...
14:18 < rxr> jsaw: maybe around?
14:18 < rxr> jsaw: I still wonder why all mozilla alike stuff now goes into /opt/mozilla.org without a discussion ...
14:29  * morfoh publishing new regression report
14:30 < mnemoc> wb morfoh 
14:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: thx ;) but I'm sorry .... not really back because I need more time for cleaning 
14:31 < morfoh> decided to clean more stuff than I wanted initially 
14:32 < mnemoc> :)
14:34  * morfoh running ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg ref -newdelete
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14:38 < sepp> moin :)
14:39 < morfoh> binutils updated ?
14:39 < morfoh> moin sepp :)
14:40 < sepp> hi morfoh :)
14:41 < rxr> morfoh: yes
14:57 < rxr> oehm
14:58 < rxr> anyone an idea how to detect a segfault from a executed program inside a shell-script ?
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15:00 < misl> hi folks
15:00 < misl> rxr: ping
15:00 < rxr> hi misl
15:00 < rxr> pong
15:01 < rxr> was noisy on tody ?
15:01 < misl> rxr: this time I am around my terminal :)
15:01 < misl> rxr: no, but I can turn it on
15:01 < rxr> nah
15:01 < rxr> when is it scheduled to be on these days  ?
15:02 < misl> hehe, It is mostly turned off
15:02 < misl> But if you want to use it I can turn it on
15:02 < misl> I nobody is using it I turn it of these days
15:02 < misl> No need to waste energy if it is not being used :)
15:03 < misl> let me turn it on right now :)
15:06 < misl> rxr: noisy is on now :)
15:06 < rxr> heh
15:06 < rxr> misl: please stay some seconds until I generated a new ssh key ,-))
15:07 < morfoh> hi misl :)
15:07 < misl> sure
15:07 < misl> hi morfoh
15:07 < misl> how is my moped frien doing :)
15:07  * morfoh is in flat cleaning mode
15:07 < misl> morfoh: boring :)
15:07 < morfoh> misl: but fine ... thx ;)
15:07 < morfoh> misl: and you ?
15:08 < misl> I was in cleaning mode this morning :)
15:08 < misl> I had visitors, but they are gone now
15:08 < misl> went to the beach
15:08 < morfoh> rxr: was there a special reason for updating binutils ?
15:08 < misl> but I am fine, thanks :)
15:08 < morfoh> misl: :)
15:09 < rxr> morfoh: hm? usual minor mainenance update as adverticed on the gcc and glibc list?
15:09 < Stelz> :>
15:09 < rxr> why do you ask ?
15:09 < Stelz> rehi
15:09 < rxr> hi Stelz 
15:09 < Stelz> hello, rxr
15:09 < misl> hi Stelz
15:10 < Stelz> hi, misl :)
15:10 < morfoh> hi Stelz-o-Maniac :)
15:10 < Stelz> :))
15:10 < Stelz> thx
15:10 < morfoh> new Regression report available in some minutes
15:11 < rxr> misl: see query ,-)
15:11 < misl> rxr: yes
15:11 < morfoh> rxr: I just asked to know ;)
15:15  * morfoh is going back to clean up the flat ... bbl
15:15 < morfoh> http://trac.t2-project.org/ref/trunk/regressions.html
15:16 < misl> rxr: Where should I put that key again? 
15:16 < mnemoc> misl: .ssh/authorized_keys
15:17 < misl> ah, found it
15:18 < misl> rxr: can I remove your previous key?
15:19 < rxr> yes
15:19 < rxr> re btw. ... ,-)
15:19 < misl> rxr: done :)
15:20 < rxr> ok - let's see
15:20 < rxr> thanksl
15:21 < misl> rxr: btw I have problems building gcc when doing a minimal x86 build
15:22 < rxr> and perl it was on x86-64, right ?
15:22 < misl> yes
15:22 < rxr> I plan to have a look
15:22 < misl> :)
15:22 < rxr> and finally do weekly cross build tests
15:22 < rxr> but first I hunt a minised segfault ,-))
15:23 < rxr> though I'll start the builds in some secs
15:23 < misl> fine with me. 
15:27 < rxr> today I really got a mail with 2 minised patches into my inbox ,-))
15:28 < rxr> guess we should setup some vservers on noisy and lvm ...
15:28 < rxr> something that cries for mnemoc ,-)
15:29 < mnemoc> :)
15:29 < misl> Be my guest :)
15:29 < misl> I'll be out for while, bbl
15:30 < mnemoc> misl: what about the noise container for noisy?
15:30 < mnemoc> bbl misl :(
15:30 < misl> mnemoc: If noisy will be used regularly, I will finally get me one :)
15:31 < misl> bbl
15:31 < mnemoc> misl: deal
15:31 < rxr> misl: yes, I would love to load noisy when it would not be shut down every night ,-))
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15:49 < mnemoc> do you know any deced way to add '
15:50 < mnemoc> handle SIG32 noprint nostop' to our gdb by default?
15:50 < mnemoc> decent*
15:51 < rxr> hm
15:52 < rxr> where do you experience that ?
15:53 < mnemoc> without that on .gdbinit i get:
15:53 < mnemoc> Program received signal SIG32, Real-time event 32.
15:53 < mnemoc> 0x4173ddd8 in pthread_create () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
15:53 < mnemoc> everytime i try to gdb something :p
15:54 < rxr> hm
15:57 < rxr> so - yet another minised segfault fixed
15:57 < rxr> r56
15:57 < rxr> guess yet another release soon ,-))
15:57 < rxr> mnemoc: no idea - patch ?
15:58 < mnemoc> ugly
15:58 < mnemoc> but i don'T see any better alternative
15:59 < CIA-18> chris * r16000 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * updated fox (1.4.30 -> 1.4.31)
15:59 < rxr> ask the mighty gdb maintainer ?
16:00 < mnemoc> uhm?
16:00 < rxr> about the rational behind that behaviour
16:01 < rxr> authors, not T2 maintainer that was ,-))
16:01 < mnemoc> :)
16:01 < mnemoc> i was asking the mighty gdb maintainer :)
16:01 < rxr> upstream author I meant
16:01 < mnemoc> i know i know 
16:02 < rxr> gdb sucks so majorly I do not even wanna start glancing into it's code ... :-((
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16:09 < morfoh> sepp: time for taking a look on fxruby ?
16:09 < morfoh> sepp: or can you give me some hints ?
16:11 < CIA-18> sebastian * r16001 /trunk/package/multimedia/live/gcc41.patch: * gcc-4.1 fix
16:11 < mnemoc> nice commit message
16:12 < morfoh> sepp: do you have sth. against fxruby 1.4.4 update ? but isn't building yet
16:13 < morfoh> but the old one neither
16:13 < sepp> no
16:13 < morfoh> sepp: ok
16:13 < sepp> fox broke api again?
16:14 < morfoh> seems so
16:14 < sepp> :(
16:14 < CIA-18> chris * r16002 /trunk/package/ruby/fxruby/fxruby.desc: 
16:14 < CIA-18> * updated fxruby (1.4.3 -> 1.4.4)
16:14 < CIA-18> * Note: not building yet on latest reference build!
16:16  * misl back
16:17 < morfoh> sepp: I'm syncing the regression report already that you can see the error msg -> http://trac.t2-project.org/ref/trunk/regressions.html
16:17 < morfoh> it just take 2-3min for the page update
16:18 < sepp> gimp is running out of registers in its mmx code :/
16:19 < rxr> ouh
16:19 < rxr> the usual stuff with too heftly inline assembly
16:19 < rxr> e.g. as qemu ...
16:20 < rxr> ... which is misuse of inline assembly according to the gcc maintainer
16:20 < rxr> cu a bit later
16:20 < morfoh> cu
16:20 < misl> cu
16:20 < Stelz> cya
16:20 < Stelz> :)
16:20  * mnemoc going for a walk, cu
16:20  * misl off again too
16:20 < misl> new visitors
16:20 < misl> cu
16:20 < morfoh> mnemoc: cu ... have a nice walk ...
16:21 < morfoh> cu misl :)
16:21 < Stelz> :)
16:21 < misl> cu morfoh
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16:21 < morfoh> sepp: report is updated 
16:21 < Stelz> hehe.. chatzillerz
16:21 < mnemoc> morfoh: house work finished?
16:21 < sepp> :)
16:21 < morfoh> not yet ... had to wait a bit 
16:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: why ?
16:21 < mnemoc> jsut currious
16:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: do you wanna walk over here ;)
16:22 < mnemoc> morfoh: maybe
16:22 < morfoh> yeah ... do so :)
16:22 < mnemoc> which is your floor? (just in case)
16:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: 4th.
16:23 < mnemoc> let see
16:23 < mnemoc> cu :)
16:23 < morfoh> cu :)
16:27 < sepp> cu :)
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17:36 < rxr> re
17:38 < Stelz> hi, rxr
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18:14 < mtr> hi
18:15  * mtr having troubles with the binary nvidia driver
18:15 < mtr> somehow i cannot get it to work with glx extension
18:17 < mtr> anyone with similar experience, or with a success story?
18:20 < sepp> i am using the binary nvidia driver
18:22 < sepp> nvidia 1.0-8178 2.2.0-alpha ...
18:27 < mtr> hmm, for me with enabled glx in xorg.conf, Xorg stops loading, last message in the logfile is "Initializing GLX extension"
18:30 < sepp> is it loading the xorg libglx.so?
18:30 < mtr> sepp: have you done all the sym-linking to the shared libs "by hand", or using the nvidia-installer?
18:30 < sepp> xcfgt2 to copy things around
18:31 < mtr> sepp: yes, Xorg.0.log does tells so, libglx.so is loaded
18:32 < sepp> with vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" ?
18:33 < mtr> thanks sepp, i will check xcfgt2 ...
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18:39 < misl> hi folks
18:40 < sepp> hi misl 
18:40 < misl> hi sepp :)
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18:52 < rxr_> rehi misl 
18:54 < rxr_> http://dl.exactcode.de/oss/minised/
18:54 < rxr_> minised-1.7
18:55 < rxr_> oh noisy went down I fear ?
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19:06 < CIA-18> rene * r16003 /trunk/package/base/minised/minised.desc: * updated minised (1.6 -> 1.7)
19:13 < LMJ> evening
19:14 < LMJ> I still wonder why i can't connect any USB devices on my t2 2.1.1.1
19:14 < LMJ> any ideas ?
19:16 < morfoh> (mnemoc) rockplug failing?
19:17 < rxr> LMJ: what happens on that system ?
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19:23 < LMJ> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/nOF0wd15.html
19:23 < LMJ> here is what i can show
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19:30 < LMJ> damned, this guys 60.190.223.227  trying to connect on my ssh root account
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19:34 < rxr> jsaw: ping
19:40 < LMJ> any ideas about my problem
19:42 < rxr> LMJ: you use devfs ?
19:43 < LMJ> yes
19:48 < rxr> hm
19:48 < rxr> then it must be a devfs issue
19:48 < rxr> what kernel do you use ?
19:48 < LMJ> 2.6.11.12-dist
19:49 < rxr> hm
19:49 < LMJ> mount : none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
19:49  * rxr has not seen devfs since ages ..
19:49 < rxr> LMJ: that is just for user-space access
19:49 < rxr> device nodes for block devices and such are either handles by devfs or udev
19:49 < LMJ> you are on udev t2 2.2 ?
19:49 < LMJ> ha ok
19:50 < rxr> yes
19:53 < LMJ> how t2 2.2 progress ?
19:54 < morfoh> LMJ: http://trac.t2-project.org/ref/trunk/regressions.html
19:54 < LMJ> wow
19:54 < LMJ> wtf ;)
19:54 < morfoh> :)
19:54  * morfoh hides
19:58 < CIA-18> rene * r16004 /trunk/architecture/ (share/kernel-common.conf.m4 x86-64/kernel.conf.sh): 
19:58 < CIA-18> * added PCI to the common kernel options and ACPI to x86-64, needed
19:58 < CIA-18>  since at least 2.6.16-rc6-mm2
19:59 < LMJ> maybe mnemoc could help me
20:02 < rxr> yeah, mnemoc ?
20:06 < morfoh> (mnemoc) not right now sorry :(
20:08 < LMJ> np
20:27 < CIA-18> sebastian * r16005 /trunk/package/develop/hte/gcc41.patch: * fixed hte for gcc41
20:38 < rxr> == 20:50:50 =[9]=> Building base/linux26mm [2.6.16-rc6-mm2 2.2.0-alpha].
20:38 < rxr> == 03/19/06 21:38:51 =[9]=> Finished building package linux26mm.
20:38 < rxr> so - let's see
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20:50 < rxr> Linux localhost 2.6.16-rc6-mm2-dist #1 Sun Mar 19 21:31:40 CET 2006 x86_64
20:50 < rxr> so ,-)
20:52 < CIA-18> rene * r16006 /trunk/package/base/linux26mm/ (12-conf-hacks.patch linux26mm.desc): * updated linux26mm (2.6.16-rc1-mm5 -> 2.6.16-rc6-mm2)
21:02 < rxr> hm
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22:04 < CIA-18> sebastian * r16007 /trunk/package/develop/erlang-otp/erlang-otp.desc: * updated erlang-otp (R10B-9 -> R10B-10)
22:30 < morfoh> sepp: thanks for all the fixes :)
22:37 < CIA-18> sebastian * r16008 /trunk/package/network/valknut/gcc41.patch: * fixed valknut for gcc41
22:37 < morfoh> :)
22:37 < Stelz> :>
22:38 < sepp> btw - who will fix gimps mmx/asm abuse?
22:38 < sepp> :)
22:39 < mnemoc> sepp of course
22:40 < sepp> att x86 syntax makes me wonder a lot :/
22:41 < mnemoc> haven't gentoo guys do it already?
22:41 < sepp> i do not know
22:42 < sepp> i disabled mmx 
22:43 < mnemoc> *g*
22:45 < sepp> fomit-frame-pointer also works on 2.5 register x86 - but thats no real solution
22:51  * mnemoc lost his pen
22:51 < morfoh> mnemoc: a blue one ?
22:52  * morfoh is looking around in his room for poor mnemoc's pen :)
22:52 < mnemoc> black :)
22:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: not here ... sorry :)
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22:52 < mnemoc> you thief
22:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: pssst :p
22:53 < mnemoc> next you will take my virginity :(
22:53 < mnemoc> thief!
22:54 < morfoh> what ?
22:54 < mnemoc> first you took my poor black pen, what will come? <--- translation
22:55 < morfoh> mnemoc: I didn't took it :(
22:55 < mnemoc> i'll forgive you this one
22:55 < morfoh> perhaps you should check all holes for the pen :p
22:55  * morfoh hides
22:55 < mnemoc> .oO
22:55 < sepp> O_O
22:57 < mnemoc> sepp has it!
22:57 < mnemoc> .oO( these germans... )o
22:58  * mnemoc miss his pen :'(
22:58 < morfoh> mnemoc: yes ... I think so. the pen was teleporting itself to Dresden :p
22:58 < sepp> lol
22:58 < mnemoc> you have fast trains
22:59 < sepp> and i was wondering why the tablet does not work
22:59 < sepp> it was the wrong input device 
22:59 < mnemoc> *g*
22:59 < morfoh> sepp: :)
23:01 < CIA-18> sebastian * r16009 /trunk/package/network/libtorrent/ (. libtorrent.cache libtorrent.desc): * added libtorrent (0.8.5) - A BitTorrent library written in C++
23:01 < CIA-18> sebastian * r16010 /trunk/package/network/rtorrent/ (. rtorrent.cache rtorrent.desc): * added rtorrent (0.4.5) - A BitTorrent client written in C++
23:03 < sepp> bye bye java crap :)
23:03 < mnemoc> wasn'T it python?
23:04 < sepp> {lib,r}torrent is written in c++
23:04 < sepp> bittorrent java client was azureus or so
23:05 < mnemoc> but azureus has GUI
23:06 < mnemoc> and this seems to be cursesy
23:06 < CIA-18> chris * r16011 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.desc: * updated samhain (2.1.2 -> 2.1.3)
23:06 < sepp> yes - but javavm crashes twice a day on my box 
23:06 < mnemoc> kaffe?
23:07 < sepp> with azureus ..
23:07 < sepp> suns jvm
23:07 < mnemoc> have you tried? :)
23:07 < sepp> no
23:11 < morfoh> .oO( both hpijs and hplip installing PPD's for HP printer )o
23:12 < mnemoc> isn'T one a subset of the other?
23:12 < sepp> hmm fxruby is a swig problem :(
23:12 < morfoh> sepp: doesn't sound nice :(
23:13 < morfoh> sepp: what kind of problem ?
23:13 < sepp> looks like swig created just wrong output???
23:13 < sepp> stange
23:13 < sepp> strange
23:16 < morfoh> .oO( why did valentin added kopete as package if it's available in kdenetwork ? )o
23:17 < morfoh> r15809
23:18 < mnemoc> is it?
23:19 < morfoh> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/
23:21 < mnemoc> :)
23:22 < morfoh> and not since yesterday
23:22 < morfoh> svn del ?
23:23 < mnemoc> rm :)
23:23 < morfoh> ok ok ... :p
23:24 < morfoh> delete (del, remove, rm)
23:24 < morfoh> :p
23:24 < mnemoc> :)
23:24 < morfoh> :)
23:24 < mnemoc> it's morfoh-proof
23:25 < morfoh> good save the svn developers :)
23:25 < morfoh> god
23:27 < CIA-18> chris * r16012 /trunk/package/kde/kopete/: * removed kopete package because it's included since ages within kdenetwork
23:27 < sepp> why is there a 7 imagemagick ?
23:30 < mnemoc> to catch extra dependencies maybe
23:30 < morfoh> sepp: dunno ... but perhaps inspect the svn log
23:30 < mnemoc> see which packages depend on it
23:32 < mnemoc> becasue it's probably there to solve some cycle
23:32 < sepp> grep imagemagick package/*/*/*.cache | wc -l => 16
23:34 < sepp> show nothing that might really need a 7-imagemagick
23:34 < mnemoc> probably it is early at stage 5 to be used by those 16 packages, and then re-built to catch the extra dependencies
23:34 < mnemoc> no no
23:35 < mnemoc> 16 packages need imagemagick, and imagemagick needs another packages
23:35 < sepp> hmm
23:36 < mnemoc> A -> Imagemagick -> B   is not always possible
23:36 < sepp> ok
23:36 < sepp>  [5] develop/doxygen                     [5] graphic/aqsis
23:36 < sepp>  [5] graphic/pixie                       [5] multimedia/cinelerra
23:36 < sepp>  [5] ruby/fxruby
23:36 < sepp> 654 builds total, 649 completed fine, 5 with errors.
23:36 < mnemoc> so you make A' -> Imagemagick -> {A'',B} -> Imagemagick
23:37 < sepp> yes yes
23:37 < mnemoc> not because someone wants Imagemagick at stage 7, but to have support for A'' at Imagemagick
23:37 < mnemoc> :)
23:38 < morfoh> I think we need a gstreamer-0.8 package for compat reasons ... 
23:38 < morfoh> this gnome update was well prepared 
23:38 < valentin> lol: http://www.graphix4change.com/portfolio_PA_game.html
23:38 < valentin> gn8
23:39 < mnemoc> valentin: wait!
23:39 < morfoh> valentin: why are you hinding that fast :p
23:39 < morfoh> hiding
23:39 < morfoh> :)
23:39 < valentin> morfoh: because i need to sleep
23:39 < mnemoc> [19:18:46] <morfoh> .oO( why did valentin added kopete as package if it's available in kdenetwork ? )o
23:39 < mnemoc> [19:19:16] <morfoh> r15809
23:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: thanks
23:39 < mnemoc> ^---- valentin: answer that first please
23:40 < valentin> morfoh: wtf, my kdenetwork does not contain any kopete....
23:40 < valentin> maybe my system is too old
23:40 < valentin> why do they create an extra package for that then ?
23:41 < morfoh> valentin: why are you asking me ?
23:41 < morfoh> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/
23:41 < morfoh> it's there since at least 3.4
23:41 < morfoh> or even before
23:41 < morfoh> what kind of crap are you running there ? :p
23:42 < mnemoc> t2 :)
23:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: of course t2 :)
23:42 < morfoh> .oO( hopefully )o
23:42 < mnemoc> you asked
23:42 < morfoh> valentin: or do you hide a debian there ? :)
23:43 < valentin> na
23:43 < morfoh> mnemoc: I mean ... kde 
23:43 < morfoh> valentin: so what kde version ? :)
23:43 < valentin> morfoh: 3.4.1 with some 3.3 stuff left
23:44 < valentin> so why did no one tell me when i added kopete ?
23:44 < valentin> noone reading commit mail ?
23:44 < mnemoc> not the last week :(
23:44 < morfoh> valentin: because most probably the others are no KDE lovers and they didn't knew
23:44 < mnemoc> :)
23:45 < mnemoc> morfoh: so you are a kde lover and then you noticed
23:45 < valentin> how about just disabling kopete package and let me go sleeping ?
23:45 < morfoh> valentin: :)
23:46 < morfoh> 00:31 < CIA-18> chris * r16012 /trunk/package/kde/kopete/: * removed kopete package because it's included since ages within kdenetwork
23:46 < mnemoc> outch
23:46 < morfoh> valentin: go sleep ... I don't want to hurt you :)
23:47 < morfoh> valentin: sleep well :)
23:47 < mnemoc> janna is in charge of keeping you awake, not us
23:48 < morfoh> valentin: at least kopete is within t2 2.1 so I guess there is no need for the package 
23:49 < mnemoc> let him sleep
23:49 < valentin> lol
23:49 < morfoh> valentin: :)
23:49 < morfoh> valentin: yeah ... sleep well ;)
23:50 < morfoh> so ... what about the gstreamer issue ? 
23:50 < morfoh> to focus on a different topic :p
23:50  * morfoh hides back under his beloved stone
23:51 < valentin> gn8 then
23:51 < mnemoc> *yaewn*
23:52 < morfoh> gn8 valentin 
23:52 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep too....
23:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: good decision
23:52 < mnemoc> gn8 valentin, morfoh, sepp, *
23:52 < mnemoc> *yaaaaaaawn*
23:52 < morfoh> sleep well mnemoc :)
23:53 < mnemoc> thx
23:53 < mnemoc> cu tomorrow
23:53 < morfoh> mnemoc: roger that  :)
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23:54 < keinek> hi
23:54 < morfoh> hi keinek 
23:56 < keinek> morfoh, can you help me?
23:56 < keinek> i try to compile a new t2 for amd 64
23:56 < keinek> but
23:56 < keinek> in stage 1, dietlibc
23:56 < keinek> fail.
23:57 < morfoh> keinek: please publish the error somewhere 
23:57 < morfoh> keinek: but please not in irc
23:57 < keinek> ok
23:58 < sepp> good night * :)
23:58 < morfoh> good night sepp ... sleep well :)
23:58 < sepp> thanks 
23:58 < morfoh> sepp: thanks again ;)
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