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07:35 < valentin> moin
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09:21 < misl> hi folks
10:03 < owl> moin
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14:10 < nzg> moin
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14:35 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | CeBIT 2006 H/5 F56 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
14:35 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Thu Mar 9 11:43:15 2006]
14:35 [Users #t2]
14:35 [@ChanServ] [ Cypl0de] [ misl ] [ owl ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_]
14:35 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
14:35 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
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16:06 < morfoh> moin
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16:10 < keinek> hi
16:14 < misl> hi morfoh, keinek
16:19 < morfoh> hi misl my friend :)
16:19 < morfoh> hi never greeting keinek
16:20 * misl keinek_
16:20 < misl> hi morfoh
16:20 * misl misl
16:20 < misl> :)
16:23 < keinek> hi morfoh
16:23 < keinek> :P
16:23 < keinek> hey guys, the fpc packet work fine?
16:23 < keinek> I need pascal, but dont work for me.
16:24 < keinek> i was working yesterday in the cvs cedega.
16:24 < keinek> work fine
16:24 < keinek> :)
16:24 < keinek> i play GTA VICE CITY fine with the cvs version of cedega :P
16:25 < keinek> hello?
16:25 < keinek> is anybody out there?
16:27 < misl> hi keinek, I am listening
16:27 < misl> what is GTA vice City and what is cedega?
16:28 < keinek> misl, GTA is a game, and Cedega is the new version of WINEX
16:28 < keinek> Wine for games.
16:28 < keinek> The binary of Cedega is comercial.
16:28 < keinek> but the cvs version is free
16:29 < keinek> but i cant make a package, or binary, tha may broke the license.
16:29 < keinek> T2 is special, just Scrits.
16:30 < keinek> we can add cedega, with the licence comercial, but cant add cedega in a ISO.
16:31 < keinek> the lastest games of windows work very fine with cedega cvs
16:31 < misl> keinek, you can add packages, but make the downloads manual
16:31 < misl> have a lookt at sun-jre-150
16:31 < keinek> ok, i will see that ;)
16:31 < misl> those are commercial binary downloads
16:31 < keinek> but cedega have a CVS download.
16:32 < morfoh> we've CVS download support
16:32 < keinek> the binary download is Comercial, and more compatible, Transgaming sold this binary for 5 dolars a month
16:32 < misl> You can not put them in a iso and distribute them freely, but you can add them to a t2 target and have people build the distro themself
16:32 < keinek> the people can EMERGE cvs cedega
16:32 < keinek> ;)
16:33 < keinek> the normal CVS finish compile and have a wine binary.
16:34 < keinek> But one group create a script (http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/WineCVS)
16:34 < keinek> that script compile and configure CVS cedega
16:34 < keinek> and make a binary called cvscedega :P
16:35 < keinek> but wine and cvscedega dont work together
16:35 < keinek> hey morfoh fpc work for you?
16:35 < keinek> i need pascal for write a article in a magazine :P
16:37 < keinek> i was looking the script of linux-gamers, i want to create a package for t2 follow that scripts.
16:37 < keinek> :)
16:39 < keinek> that script make a version of cvs cedega more compatible, like the binary of transgaming cedega (the comercial)
16:39 < keinek> The secret is the configuracion.
16:39 < keinek> linux-gamers do a good job.
16:40 < keinek> i think that make a package that install only the scripts of linux-gamers is better than a package of cedega.
16:41 < keinek> WineCVS.sh scripts, can build all version of wine, wine compatible with direct x 9, and a lot of wines, include transgaming wine cedega.
16:41 < keinek> the scripts download the sources like t2 do.
16:41 < morfoh> keinek: does GTA VICE CITY work on your linux box smoothly ?
16:42 < keinek> morfoh, yes.
16:42 < keinek> work really fine.
16:42 < morfoh> he ... cool
16:42 < keinek> only the mpeg videos dont work when start the game.
16:42 < keinek> but the game is full playable.
16:42 < morfoh> it's the only game I've on my windows partition that I'm booting all 6 months for playing GTA
16:43 < keinek> the next week i will have a amd 64 bits, and everthing work better ;)
16:43 < owl> .oO( evil word with g... )
16:43 < morfoh> so I can play it with my linux box and free my harddisk
16:43 < keinek> morfoh, yes! is a great game!
16:44 < keinek> yes, you only download the scripts and make you own version of winex cedega cvs.
16:44 < misl> Yeah, free all harddisks, Power to the Disk :)
16:44 < keinek> remember (mine -r wine) remove you wine version of t2.
16:44 < morfoh> misl: :pedantic :p
16:44 < misl> all harddisks in the world unite and free yourself
16:44 < keinek> morfoh, i can send you the script.
16:44 < keinek> you want it?
16:45 < keinek> i can send this script to the list of t2.
16:45 < morfoh> keinek: yeah ... do so
16:45 < keinek> just for looking, for see how working that scripts :)
16:45 < keinek> ok
16:46 < morfoh> misl: btw, I just meant freeing my HDD from the burden of a crappy "garage OS from redmont" (citing rene) :)
16:47 < keinek> :P
16:47 < keinek> morfoh, the games work fine, but i thing that in windows work better.
16:47 < keinek> but, is fully playable.
16:48 < keinek> what video card you have?
16:48 < misl> morfoh: just teasing you :)
16:48 < morfoh> keinek: anyhow, I've no time for playing games atm. :)
16:48 < morfoh> misl: I know ... knowing my moped friend quite well :p
16:49 < keinek> i was send the mail.
16:49 < morfoh> keinek: RADEON 9200 with 128MB
16:49 < keinek> Mmmmm
16:49 < keinek> and work fine in linux?
16:49 < morfoh> yes
16:49 < keinek> that video card was a nightmare for me.
16:49 < keinek> but was 2 years ago.
16:50 < keinek> now have new drivers?
16:50 < keinek> the mail dont arribe to the list.
16:50 < keinek> :(
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16:51 < keinek> perhaps the anti-spaam?
16:52 < morfoh> keinek: perhaps there is a problem with the server
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16:52 < morfoh> valentin: around ?
16:54 < misl> I haven't seen any package update mails in few days
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17:08 < morfoh> misl: yeah ... since wednesday there seems to be a problem
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17:41 < keinek> hey guy a have a problema.
17:42 < keinek> I was have a athlon xp
17:42 < keinek> but i change for a week the system for a duron
17:42 < keinek> when i do ./scriptc/Config t2 compile some files for the menuconfig.
17:42 < keinek> in a new trunk work fien
17:42 < keinek> fine*
17:43 < keinek> but in the trunk that use with a athlon xp, fail, and show me "unknown returncode: 132"
17:43 < keinek> when i run ".. t2-2.1.1.1# ./scripts/Config"
17:43 < keinek> why?
17:44 < keinek> i think that some files was compile for athlon xp.
17:44 < morfoh> keinek: try to run ./scripts/Config -oldconfig
17:45 < morfoh> does it return the same error ?
17:45 < keinek> no
17:45 < keinek> :)
17:45 < morfoh> now run ./scripts/Config
17:45 < keinek> unknown returncode: 132
17:45 < keinek> :(
17:46 < morfoh> hmm ...
17:46 < keinek> i want to change the optimizacion "athlon xp" for "athlon"
17:46 < keinek> :'(
17:46 < keinek> when run for first time ./scripts/Config that compile some files, that is the error.
17:46 < keinek> how to erase that files for start again?
17:46 < keinek> This is a bug?
17:46 < morfoh> keinek: sorry ... I don't know
17:46 < keinek> i know is no normal, change the machine.
17:47 < keinek> but is you remember, when you start a with a new trunk, that compile some files.
17:47 < keinek> you remember that?
17:48 < keinek> ok... how i cant delete a config?
17:48 < keinek> i need erase default
17:48 < keinek> :)
17:48 < keinek> meanbe rxr know how to start again.
17:49 < morfoh> mv config/default config/default-old
17:49 < morfoh> and run Config
17:49 < morfoh> having a backup isn't that bad
17:49 < morfoh> while playing around ;)
17:49 < keinek> :)
17:49 < keinek> is true..
17:50 < keinek> this is something new in T2.
17:50 < keinek> nobody change your pc to another.
17:50 < keinek> the change everytime is for something best
17:50 < keinek> no less
17:51 < keinek> if you have a trunk optimice for athlon xp, and back to duron, the Trunk dont work ;)
17:52 < keinek> when i said "back to duron" i may say change all the PC, no the config.
17:52 < keinek> :)
17:52 < keinek> sorry for my english
17:52 < keinek> but you can understand very well, dont you?
17:52 < keinek> :P
17:52 < morfoh> keinek: yeah ... most of it :p
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17:53 < sepp> hello
17:53 < keinek> hi sepp
17:53 < keinek> i was try my english with morfoh
17:53 < sepp> hi keinek
17:54 < keinek> Mmmm... mnemoc is alive?
17:54 < morfoh> hi sepp :)
17:54 < sepp> (: hi morfoh
17:54 < keinek> now he is in germany?
17:54 < morfoh> keinek: yes ... he is at CeBIT with rxr
17:54 < keinek> guau!
17:55 < keinek> two great guys
17:55 < keinek> togethers.
17:56 < morfoh> keinek: yes ... it was nice to get to know mnemoc in real :)
17:56 < keinek> i would like to know the mnemoc's sisters :P
17:58 < sepp> is that a pop band ?
17:58 < morfoh> keinek: you're dirty ... :p
17:59 < morfoh> keinek: I think mnemoc told you the age of them
18:00 < keinek> yes
18:00 < keinek> two sisters
18:00 < keinek> :P
18:00 < morfoh> you're a really dirty guy :p
18:01 < keinek> yes...
18:01 < keinek> :D
18:01 < keinek> but i am in argentina.
18:02 < keinek> with madtux evertime say mnemoc that we go to chile.
18:02 < keinek> some day.
18:02 < keinek> so... in two years....
18:02 < misl> keinek: by then you probably have to go somewhere else :)
18:03 < keinek> :)
18:03 < keinek> what happen with my mail of cedega scripts???
18:03 < keinek> dont arribe to the list.
18:03 < keinek> morfoh, i will send to you mail.
18:04 < keinek> ok?
18:04 < keinek> Mmmm i can upload the script.
18:04 < keinek> wait a minute.
18:05 < morfoh> keinek: I'm thinking about your problem... What do you think, are the steroids from the argentinian cows responsible for that ? :p
18:05 < morfoh> keinek: you should become vegetarian then :)
18:05 < keinek> :D
18:06 < Baldzius_> l0l
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18:06 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :)
18:06 < misl> hi baldy :)
18:06 < morfoh> baldy ? ... lol
18:06 < Baldzius> hi morfoh misl keinek :)
18:07 < keinek> hi Baldzius
18:07 < morfoh> Baldzius a.k.a baldy the vandal :p
18:07 < keinek> guys... "unknown returncode: 132"
18:07 < keinek> :'(
18:07 < misl> what did he vandalise?
18:08 < Baldzius> misl: that is a top secret :)
18:09 < morfoh> misl: yeah ... if you would know, you wouldn't call him "baldy" anymore :)
18:10 < misl> hehe
18:22 < keinek> morfoh, http://proyectos.gsol.ws/red-handed/Programas_2005/stuff/WineCVS.sh
18:22 < keinek> this is the scripts
18:22 < keinek> :)
18:22 < keinek> you can make you own binary of cedega for playing gta vice city.
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20:49 < rxr> re
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21:31 < rxr> valentin: exact-image has a configure now and enables the viewer only if x11 and evas is avail
21:31 < rxr> so - cu all
21:31 * rxr bed
21:35 < owl> gn8 bed, aeh, rxr :)
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22:52 -!- mnemoc changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
22:53 < sepp_> hello
22:53 < mnemoc> hi sepp_
22:54 < morfoh> hi sepp_
22:54 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
22:54 < morfoh> hi mnemoc
22:54 < valentin> mnemoc: in berlin again ?
22:54 < sepp> hi morfoh
22:54 < morfoh> hi valentin
22:54 < sepp> ehh - hi mnemoc
22:56 < mnemoc> valentin: not yet, i guess tomorrow
22:56 < mnemoc> hi morfoh
22:56 < valentin> ah - ok, gn8 then
22:56 < morfoh> valentin: can you check if the t2-project mailserver has a problem ?
22:56 < morfoh> valentin: gn8
22:57 < valentin> oh ?
22:57 < valentin> ah...
22:57 < morfoh> valentin: no ML and no commit mails
22:57 < valentin> according to the logs some mails should be sent out... but i did not get any ?
22:58 < valentin> why did noone tell me before ?
22:58 < morfoh> I have asked for it yesterday
22:59 < valentin> didn't read that...
22:59 < mnemoc> shame on you
22:59 < morfoh> valentin: np ... can you see the problem ?
23:00 < valentin> rxr did some configuring of our smtp some days ago
23:11 < valentin> this is very strange indeed
23:12 < valentin> hm, the exim config is very broken
23:15 < valentin> since when did the mails stop ? i guess wednesday evening ?
23:15 < valentin> this was when rxr enabled TLS encryption
23:16 < valentin> .oO /me does not want to mess around with exim.conf...
23:16 < morfoh> :|
23:16 < valentin> why did noone tell rxr ?
23:17 < morfoh> I told him
23:17 < morfoh> but no response ... perhaps he has overseen it
23:18 < valentin> i make a backup config and try to fix the worst syntax errors...
23:24 < valentin> no, hm...
23:26 < mnemoc> ?
23:26 < valentin> mnemoc: i guess rxr is not awake anymore ?
23:26 < mnemoc> he went to sleep about 2h ago
23:27 < mnemoc> he was at the living room playing with his benchmarks
23:27 < valentin> damn....
23:28 < valentin> rxr changed the config on wed, just when the mails stopped going out - and i have no idea what lines in this huge config beast he changed exactly...
23:28 < valentin> i first thought there were syntax errors. but those log warnings were from some prev. experiments obvoiusly...
23:30 < valentin> by now it seems imposible to send out mails by direct sendmail invocation
23:31 < valentin> and that is why our mailinglist outbox piles all those mails
23:32 < mnemoc> :(
23:34 < valentin> hm - what am i gonna do now..
23:34 < mnemoc> no backups???
23:35 < valentin> not of this one as far as i know
23:35 < valentin> i think rxr could have some
23:39 < valentin> so, with a bit luck mail could work again now
23:43 < valentin> no :/
23:43 < mnemoc> :(
23:43 < valentin> yeah
23:43 < valentin> anyone got Test III except for me ?
23:45 < valentin> at least i get mail from t2 MLs again
23:46 < valentin> but it only went to one of my two subscribed accounts
23:46 < valentin> well, maybe my university's server is lagging again - so anyone got that mail too ?
23:49 < valentin> ping anyone ?
23:50 < mnemoc> re
23:50 < valentin> hi mnemoc
23:50 < valentin> did you get that test mail ?
23:51 * valentin in bed soon
23:52 < mnemoc> uhm, it doesn't seem so, but i'm not sure if it's my server's fault, or yours
23:52 < valentin> even if you do not get t2 mails yet, at least i get them and i know from the logs that rxr gets them, too
23:52 < mnemoc> valentin: OT: what's the name of rene's town?
23:52 < valentin> so at least the mail is not lost
23:52 < valentin> Lauenau
23:52 < mnemoc> thanks
23:53 < valentin> so, i need some sleep now - i think i have to consult rxr to fix those problems
23:54 < mnemoc> yes, i'll tell him in the morning
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