--- Log opened Tue Feb 28 00:00:50 2006 00:19 < morfoh> master mnemoc around ? 01:14 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.243.113] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:41 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:18 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.243.113] has joined #t2 02:30 < mnemoc> rehi 02:30 < mnemoc> morfoh: ? 02:31 < morfoh> wb mnemoc :) 02:31 < morfoh> fighting with prelude ML :p 02:31 < mnemoc> uhm 02:32 < mnemoc> due to what? 02:32 < morfoh> the f* change within libpreludedb was due to a patch made on debian sid ... pgsql 7.$whatevercrapshit 02:32 < mnemoc> ehm 02:32 < morfoh> yeah ... one geek couldn't compile it on it's "fresh" sid 02:32 < morfoh> what a f* 02:33 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.243.113] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:34 < morfoh> mnemoc: do you know of hand how to check versions to inject the right include ... 02:34 < morfoh> I mean in pgsql.c of the plugin ... 02:34 < mnemoc> sed + pkgprefix includedir postgresql 02:35 < morfoh> nah ... not on t2 ! ;) 02:35 < mnemoc> there is world outside t2? 02:35 < morfoh> the prelude folks should change their source ... 02:35 < morfoh> ;) 02:35 < mnemoc> #ifdef something? 02:35 < morfoh> yep 02:36 < mnemoc> /join #postgresql :) 02:36 < morfoh> #ifdef HAVE_PGSQL_BLAH 02:36 < morfoh> perhaps ... dunno 02:37 < morfoh> if you don't know of hand ... don't think about it further... don't want to "burn" your time ;) 02:37 < mnemoc> in fact i have to detach again :\ 02:37 < morfoh> I can blame on #prelude tomorrow ;) 02:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: :( 02:37 < mnemoc> cu :( 02:37 < morfoh> bye bye 02:37 < mnemoc> bye 02:38 < morfoh> keep your head up :) 03:37 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.250.86] has joined #t2 03:39 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEF056.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:36 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.250.86] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:36 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.251.248] has joined #t2 07:38 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178130194.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 07:38 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 07:38 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 07:38 [Users #t2] 07:38 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 07:38 [ axion_ ] [ LMJ ] [ owl ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_] 07:38 [ CIA-18 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 07:38 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 07:38 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 07:38 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 07:38 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178186178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:39 -!- You're now known as rxr 07:39 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 57 secs 07:47 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178133009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 07:47 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 07:47 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 07:47 [Users #t2] 07:47 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 07:47 [ axion_ ] [ LMJ ] [ owl ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_] 07:47 [ CIA-18 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 07:47 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 07:47 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 07:47 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 07:58 -!- rxr__ [n=rene@e178135034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 07:58 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 07:58 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 07:58 [Users #t2] 07:58 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly] 07:58 [ axion_ ] [ LMJ ] [ owl ] [ rxr__] [ valentin ] 07:58 [ CIA-18 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sepp ] [ _Ragnar_ ] 07:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 07:58 -!- [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 07:58 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 07:59 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 49 secs 08:04 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178130194.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 08:05 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178133009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:14 -!- You're now known as rxr 09:01 < valentin> moin 09:01 < valentin> rxr: whats up with your connection ? 09:08 < rxr> mine ? 09:09 < rxr> well - we came into to office and waling over the dsl cable resulted in the usual fuzz 09:09 < rxr> I removed a telco terminator on the wall now and screwed the DSL splitter directly onto the wall 09:09 < rxr> let's see 09:09 < rxr> btw. my toolbox is not in my office here - if it is not at susan - it si still over at you ... 09:15 < valentin> rxr: it is not... :) 09:29 < rxr> we'll see 09:36 < rxr> RIP: 0010:[] {:reiser4:get_exclusive_access+0x24} 09:36 < rxr> Call Trace: {:reiser4:write_unix_file+0x2e3} 09:36 < rxr> {vfs_write+0xae} {sys_write+0x47} 09:36 < rxr> {cstar_do_call+0x1b} 09:36 < rxr> .oO 10:17 < rxr> re 10:17 < rxr> reiser4 consistent 10:17 < rxr> either kernel code bug that does not corrupt disk - or due to weeks of suspend / resume 10:33 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEF3B2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:34 < morfoh> moin ;) 10:35 < rxr> moin morfoh 10:38 < morfoh> moin rxr ;) 10:46 < owl> moin 10:46 < morfoh> moin owl 10:48 < owl> hi morfoh 10:57 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15627 /trunk/package/x11/shared-mime-info/shared-mime-info.conf: * fix pkgconfig for [[ $libdir != */lib ]] 10:58 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15628 /trunk/package/develop/mono/mono.conf: * fix more hardcoded pkgconfig's for [[ $libdir != */lib ]] 10:59 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15629 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/indirect-vertex-array-fix.patch: * 64bit fix taken from Gentoo 11:00 < jsaw> rxr: ping 11:01 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15630 /trunk/package/graphic/cinepaint/cinepaint.conf: * another set of hardcoded pkgconfigs (fix) 11:04 < jsaw> rxr: can I move linux26 from stage 5 to stage 7? (I can't find the reason why hotplug++ etal is build dynamic in stage 1 once in a while...) 11:09 < rxr> pong 11:09 < jsaw> hi 11:09 < rxr> just move hotplug before the kernel ? 11:10 < rxr> damn ooo triggers a kernel oops here ... 11:10 < rxr> related with reiser4 - have to reboot again 11:10 < rxr> damn 11:10 < jsaw> rxr: I tried, but fails. 11:10 < CIA-18> chris * r15631 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/postgresql-include.patch: 11:10 < CIA-18> * updated postgresql-include.patch (using changeset 7960 from prelude trunk) 11:10 < CIA-18> * Note: this patch will be obsolete in one of the upcoming releases of libpreludedb 11:10 < jsaw> There were to many deps to be moved around... 11:10 < jsaw> too* 11:10 < morfoh> hi dr.j. ;) 11:11 < jsaw> hi morfoh 11:11 < rxr> hm 11:11 < jsaw> .oO(morfoh makes me get used to it... :) 11:11 < rxr> any chance hotplug is built before dietlibc in stage 1 or so ? 11:11 < rxr> we really should find the case 11:11 < jsaw> it definitely happens on rebuild iirc 11:11 < morfoh> jsaw: hehe :) 11:12 < jsaw> rxr: ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg $cfg -remove hotplug++ linux26 11:12 < jsaw> rxr: then you are sure to get a dynamic hotplug++ 11:12 < jsaw> o.O 11:15 * rxr rebooting 11:18 < rxr> re 11:19 < rxr> morfoh: why did you ask about the future embeddedSTL feature list ? 11:29 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.57.17] has joined #t2 11:38 < morfoh> rxr: because I want to dive into it ... supporting a devel project which is _very_ close to T2 ... that's all ;) 11:39 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.251.248] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:32 < rxr> where was mnemoc hiding these days ? 12:42 < valentin> rxr: did you read the t2 list ? i guess he is still ofline most time 12:45 < rxr> his employer regot dsl saturday 12:48 < valentin> hm 12:48 < morfoh> rxr: but he has no net @home 12:49 < valentin> bbl 15:19 < rxr> 5545 root 25 10 622m 322m 204 D 0.7 66.6 0:07.19 make 15:19 < rxr> wonderfully 15:19 < rxr> building java fluff of gcc ... 15:19 < rxr> swaps my hammer laptop to near death 16:15 < rxr> cu later 16:15 < morfoh> cu rxr 17:27 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.57.17] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:41 < rxr> re 17:42 < rxr> so - now my hammer notebook as 768MB more RAM -) 17:45 < rxr> 2886 root 19 0 231m 225m 684 R 97.5 18.2 0:06.53 make 17:46 < rxr> he - now the evil begins 17:46 < rxr> but this time the box has not only more ram - but also a memory reduction patch for make ,-) 17:49 < rxr> heh make install done 17:49 < rxr> which formerly swapped around to death for half an hour ,-) 17:58 < rxr> heh - with 1.2GB RAM switching desktops while Build-Target is quite smoothly ,-) 17:59 < rxr> total used free shared buffers cached 17:59 < rxr> Mem: 1269352 1225296 44056 0 19244 934716 17:59 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache: 271336 998016 17:59 < rxr> Swap: 498004 0 498004 18:00 < LMJ> moin rxr & xo 18:00 < LMJ> co* 18:06 < morfoh> bonsoir serwou ;) 18:07 < LMJ> lmj please 18:07 < LMJ> if i changed, it's for some reaons 18:11 < owl> hi LMJ 18:11 < owl> .oO( which reasons?)) 18:14 < morfoh> owl: if it's that secret I don't wat to know ... 18:14 < owl> morfoh: :p 18:16 < rxr> morfoh: do you have mnemocs tel.# ? 18:28 < rxr> 24284 root 35 10 234m 219m 10m R 98.2 17.7 0:06.95 cc1plus 18:28 < rxr> ^- and why some spare memory is more fun ,-) 18:34 < rxr> http://dot.kde.org/1140466742/ 18:35 < _Ragnar_> moin moin 18:43 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_ 18:53 < rxr> == 02/28/06 19:55:46 =[5]=> Finished building package boost. 18:53 < rxr> ^- gcc-4.1 18:53 < _Ragnar_> :) 18:53 < rxr> not bad - kde basiscs build, boost ... 18:53 < rxr> guess we really should update to that ASAP 18:53 < _Ragnar_> what did they change in 4.1? 18:55 < rxr> C also use the new hand written parser and a lot of other stuff ,-) 18:56 < rxr> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.1/changes.html 19:01 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 19:03 < karasz> moin all 19:06 < rxr> moin karasz 19:08 < karasz> hello rxr 19:20 < morfoh> rehi 19:21 < morfoh> moin tavarish ;) 19:21 < karasz> hoho, kommrad... :) 19:21 < karasz> wb 19:21 < morfoh> rxr: nope ... I just have the office and home adr. 19:22 < morfoh> rxr: afaik he has no phone at home anyway 19:22 < morfoh> some days ago he told us that he has to order a dialup account ... but first he had to order a phone line 19:29 < rxr> he has a cell ,-) 19:29 < rxr> too bad I lost the .xyz.txt file on a migratoin 19:40 < LMJ> little question about java : i have to install it to run a software, i found the package "java-tree", is what i need or i have to download the java binary crap stuff from the Sun website and install it ? 19:40 < karasz> you need java packs too 19:41 < LMJ> what java-tree do ? 19:41 < rxr> some basic directory layout 19:41 < rxr> Emerge java-dirtree and some sun/ibm/... -rte -sde package 19:42 < LMJ> sde : i think i don't need that, what is the correct/clean way to get java program running on t2 ? 19:43 < rxr> LMJ: install java-dirtree and a java-rte package 19:43 < rxr> jre - sorry 19:43 < LMJ> ok thanks, let me try 19:44 < LMJ> no java-jre in 2.1.1, it's in svn ? 19:44 < karasz> LMJ if you have to choose i'd recomend blackdown... 19:44 < rxr> 2.1 have them 19:44 < rxr> l package/java/*jre* 19:45 < LMJ> ha ok 19:46 < LMJ> blackdown, don't know it 19:46 < LMJ> I have to run a .jar 19:47 < karasz> LMJ you will find it in packages... 19:47 < LMJ> gonna try it if you think it will make the trick for my simple needs 19:48 < karasz> i found it more cleaner and stable then the others 19:48 < karasz> other than that i cannot say anything... 19:48 < LMJ> java, clean ? ;) 19:48 < karasz> well, if I can say so :D 19:49 < karasz> and I didn't say clean but cleaner.... 19:53 < LMJ> damned 19:53 < LMJ> the blackdown ftp is lagging 19:59 < LMJ> strange, it also dl the 64bits version 20:01 < mnemoc> rehi 20:02 < rxr> hi mnemoc ! 20:02 < mnemoc> hi rxr :) 20:02 < mnemoc> did i miss too much? 20:02 < karasz> hello mnemoc 20:02 < mnemoc> hi karasz 20:22 < morfoh> oh! seņor mnemoc :) 20:25 < LMJ> looks like it works 20:30 < mnemoc> hi morfoh, LMJ 20:30 < LMJ> hello mnemoc 20:51 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.173.235.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 21:03 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.172.160.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:11 < morfoh> rxr: my tests for transfering the t2-handbook from latex to txt and docbook are looking promising 21:15 < rxr> ,-) 21:15 < morfoh> already "ripping" some icons from svnbook :p 21:21 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.173.235.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 21:29 < rxr> morfoh: ,-) 21:29 < mnemoc> CC? 21:30 < morfoh> rxr: do we wanna stay with a multi-part book ? 21:31 < mnemoc> can't be both? 21:33 < CIA-18> rene * r15632 /trunk/package/base/make/make-3.80-memory-2.patch: 21:33 < CIA-18> * imported make patch to reduce memory pressure, vital for gcc-4.1++ 21:33 < CIA-18> and it's embedded *java* files, otherwise make eats about 600MB++ of 21:33 < CIA-18> memory, though with the patch it still appears to be in the 200MB 21:33 < CIA-18> region - at least way less ,-) 21:33 < rxr> morfoh: multi html file ? 21:33 < rxr> or do you mean this part I, II, III ? 21:33 < rxr> I do not care about the later - as long as it is a joy to read 21:33 < morfoh> rxr: I II III 21:34 < morfoh> I can generate single page and chunked xhtml for now 21:35 < morfoh> rxr: I just wanted to know, in what direction the book should evolve 21:35 < rxr> the parts can be dropped if this improves readability 21:35 < rxr> I think the handbook should envolve in the direction of the usual o'reily style - and/or what the old unixes had 21:35 < morfoh> rxr: I dunno ... I think if we split the book in parts for different skilled people 21:35 < morfoh> this could be nice 21:36 < rxr> e.g. sgi and co documentation shipped with each multi kEUR box 21:37 < morfoh> I think I'll leave the parts for now ... they are generated from splitted files anyway ... so we can reorganize the content later if we want to 21:41 < rxr> temperature: 63 C 21:41 < rxr> with more RAM and less i/o wait my subnotebook gets even hotter building stuff like gcc-3.1 including all langs such as java ... 21:45 < rxr> glibc-2.4 some time soon as well 21:45 < rxr> but our currently glibc snapshot is nicely stable - I fear updating it again a bit ;-((( 21:45 < rxr> javax/swing - juck 21:45 < rxr> guess I go to bed before 5-gcc *java* unk finished 21:46 < rxr> temperature: 64 C 21:47 < rxr> cu 21:48 < karasz> bye rxr 21:50 * karasz is goin' too 21:50 < karasz> cu guys 21:50 < morfoh> cu rxr, karasz 23:30 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFBC1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 23:31 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-176-20.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 23:31 < keinek> hi 23:44 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFBBB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Wed Mar 01 00:00:57 2006