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00:19 < morfoh> master mnemoc around ?
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02:30 < mnemoc> rehi
02:30 < mnemoc> morfoh: ?
02:31 < morfoh> wb mnemoc :)
02:31 < morfoh> fighting with prelude ML :p
02:31 < mnemoc> uhm
02:32 < mnemoc> due to what?
02:32 < morfoh> the f* change within libpreludedb was due to a patch made on debian sid ... pgsql 7.$whatevercrapshit
02:32 < mnemoc> ehm
02:32 < morfoh> yeah ... one geek couldn't compile it on it's "fresh" sid
02:32 < morfoh> what a f*
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02:34 < morfoh> mnemoc: do you know of hand how to check versions to inject the right include ...
02:34 < morfoh> I mean in pgsql.c of the plugin ...
02:34 < mnemoc> sed + pkgprefix includedir postgresql
02:35 < morfoh> nah ... not on t2 ! ;)
02:35 < mnemoc> there is world outside t2?
02:35 < morfoh> the prelude folks should change their source ...
02:35 < morfoh> ;)
02:35 < mnemoc> #ifdef something?
02:35 < morfoh> yep
02:36 < mnemoc> /join #postgresql :)
02:36 < morfoh> #ifdef HAVE_PGSQL_BLAH
02:36 < morfoh> perhaps ... dunno
02:37 < morfoh> if you don't know of hand ... don't think about it further... don't want to "burn" your time ;)
02:37 < mnemoc> in fact i have to detach again :\
02:37 < morfoh> I can blame on #prelude tomorrow ;)
02:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: :(
02:37 < mnemoc> cu :(
02:37 < morfoh> bye bye
02:37 < mnemoc> bye
02:38 < morfoh> keep your head up :)
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09:01 < valentin> moin
09:01 < valentin> rxr: whats up with your connection ?
09:08 < rxr> mine ?
09:09 < rxr> well - we came into to office and waling over the dsl cable resulted in the usual fuzz
09:09 < rxr> I removed a telco terminator on the wall now and screwed the DSL splitter directly onto the wall
09:09 < rxr> let's see
09:09 < rxr> btw. my toolbox is not in my office here - if it is not at susan - it si still over at you ...
09:15 < valentin> rxr: it is not... :)
09:29 < rxr> we'll see
09:36 < rxr> RIP: 0010:[] {:reiser4:get_exclusive_access+0x24}
09:36 < rxr> Call Trace: {:reiser4:write_unix_file+0x2e3}
09:36 < rxr> {vfs_write+0xae} {sys_write+0x47}
09:36 < rxr> {cstar_do_call+0x1b}
09:36 < rxr> .oO
10:17 < rxr> re
10:17 < rxr> reiser4 consistent
10:17 < rxr> either kernel code bug that does not corrupt disk - or due to weeks of suspend / resume
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10:34 < morfoh> moin ;)
10:35 < rxr> moin morfoh
10:38 < morfoh> moin rxr ;)
10:46 < owl> moin
10:46 < morfoh> moin owl
10:48 < owl> hi morfoh
10:57 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15627 /trunk/package/x11/shared-mime-info/shared-mime-info.conf: * fix pkgconfig for [[ $libdir != */lib ]]
10:58 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15628 /trunk/package/develop/mono/mono.conf: * fix more hardcoded pkgconfig's for [[ $libdir != */lib ]]
10:59 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15629 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/indirect-vertex-array-fix.patch: * 64bit fix taken from Gentoo
11:00 < jsaw> rxr: ping
11:01 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15630 /trunk/package/graphic/cinepaint/cinepaint.conf: * another set of hardcoded pkgconfigs (fix)
11:04 < jsaw> rxr: can I move linux26 from stage 5 to stage 7? (I can't find the reason why hotplug++ etal is build dynamic in stage 1 once in a while...)
11:09 < rxr> pong
11:09 < jsaw> hi
11:09 < rxr> just move hotplug before the kernel ?
11:10 < rxr> damn ooo triggers a kernel oops here ...
11:10 < rxr> related with reiser4 - have to reboot again
11:10 < rxr> damn
11:10 < jsaw> rxr: I tried, but fails.
11:10 < CIA-18> chris * r15631 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/postgresql-include.patch:
11:10 < CIA-18> * updated postgresql-include.patch (using changeset 7960 from prelude trunk)
11:10 < CIA-18> * Note: this patch will be obsolete in one of the upcoming releases of libpreludedb
11:10 < jsaw> There were to many deps to be moved around...
11:10 < jsaw> too*
11:10 < morfoh> hi dr.j. ;)
11:11 < jsaw> hi morfoh
11:11 < rxr> hm
11:11 < jsaw> .oO(morfoh makes me get used to it... :)
11:11 < rxr> any chance hotplug is built before dietlibc in stage 1 or so ?
11:11 < rxr> we really should find the case
11:11 < jsaw> it definitely happens on rebuild iirc
11:11 < morfoh> jsaw: hehe :)
11:12 < jsaw> rxr: ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg $cfg -remove hotplug++ linux26
11:12 < jsaw> rxr: then you are sure to get a dynamic hotplug++
11:12 < jsaw> o.O
11:15 * rxr rebooting
11:18 < rxr> re
11:19 < rxr> morfoh: why did you ask about the future embeddedSTL feature list ?
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11:38 < morfoh> rxr: because I want to dive into it ... supporting a devel project which is _very_ close to T2 ... that's all ;)
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12:32 < rxr> where was mnemoc hiding these days ?
12:42 < valentin> rxr: did you read the t2 list ? i guess he is still ofline most time
12:45 < rxr> his employer regot dsl saturday
12:48 < valentin> hm
12:48 < morfoh> rxr: but he has no net @home
12:49 < valentin> bbl
15:19 < rxr> 5545 root 25 10 622m 322m 204 D 0.7 66.6 0:07.19 make
15:19 < rxr> wonderfully
15:19 < rxr> building java fluff of gcc ...
15:19 < rxr> swaps my hammer laptop to near death
16:15 < rxr> cu later
16:15 < morfoh> cu rxr
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17:41 < rxr> re
17:42 < rxr> so - now my hammer notebook as 768MB more RAM -)
17:45 < rxr> 2886 root 19 0 231m 225m 684 R 97.5 18.2 0:06.53 make
17:46 < rxr> he - now the evil begins
17:46 < rxr> but this time the box has not only more ram - but also a memory reduction patch for make ,-)
17:49 < rxr> heh make install done
17:49 < rxr> which formerly swapped around to death for half an hour ,-)
17:58 < rxr> heh - with 1.2GB RAM switching desktops while Build-Target is quite smoothly ,-)
17:59 < rxr> total used free shared buffers cached
17:59 < rxr> Mem: 1269352 1225296 44056 0 19244 934716
17:59 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache: 271336 998016
17:59 < rxr> Swap: 498004 0 498004
18:00 < LMJ> moin rxr & xo
18:00 < LMJ> co*
18:06 < morfoh> bonsoir serwou ;)
18:07 < LMJ> lmj please
18:07 < LMJ> if i changed, it's for some reaons
18:11 < owl> hi LMJ
18:11 < owl> .oO( which reasons?))
18:14 < morfoh> owl: if it's that secret I don't wat to know ...
18:14 < owl> morfoh: :p
18:16 < rxr> morfoh: do you have mnemocs tel.# ?
18:28 < rxr> 24284 root 35 10 234m 219m 10m R 98.2 17.7 0:06.95 cc1plus
18:28 < rxr> ^- and why some spare memory is more fun ,-)
18:34 < rxr> http://dot.kde.org/1140466742/
18:35 < _Ragnar_> moin moin
18:43 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_
18:53 < rxr> == 02/28/06 19:55:46 =[5]=> Finished building package boost.
18:53 < rxr> ^- gcc-4.1
18:53 < _Ragnar_> :)
18:53 < rxr> not bad - kde basiscs build, boost ...
18:53 < rxr> guess we really should update to that ASAP
18:53 < _Ragnar_> what did they change in 4.1?
18:55 < rxr> C also use the new hand written parser and a lot of other stuff ,-)
18:56 < rxr> http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.1/changes.html
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19:03 < karasz> moin all
19:06 < rxr> moin karasz
19:08 < karasz> hello rxr
19:20 < morfoh> rehi
19:21 < morfoh> moin tavarish ;)
19:21 < karasz> hoho, kommrad... :)
19:21 < karasz> wb
19:21 < morfoh> rxr: nope ... I just have the office and home adr.
19:22 < morfoh> rxr: afaik he has no phone at home anyway
19:22 < morfoh> some days ago he told us that he has to order a dialup account ... but first he had to order a phone line
19:29 < rxr> he has a cell ,-)
19:29 < rxr> too bad I lost the .xyz.txt file on a migratoin
19:40 < LMJ> little question about java : i have to install it to run a software, i found the package "java-tree", is what i need or i have to download the java binary crap stuff from the Sun website and install it ?
19:40 < karasz> you need java packs too
19:41 < LMJ> what java-tree do ?
19:41 < rxr> some basic directory layout
19:41 < rxr> Emerge java-dirtree and some sun/ibm/... -rte -sde package
19:42 < LMJ> sde : i think i don't need that, what is the correct/clean way to get java program running on t2 ?
19:43 < rxr> LMJ: install java-dirtree and a java-rte package
19:43 < rxr> jre - sorry
19:43 < LMJ> ok thanks, let me try
19:44 < LMJ> no java-jre in 2.1.1, it's in svn ?
19:44 < karasz> LMJ if you have to choose i'd recomend blackdown...
19:44 < rxr> 2.1 have them
19:44 < rxr> l package/java/*jre*
19:45 < LMJ> ha ok
19:46 < LMJ> blackdown, don't know it
19:46 < LMJ> I have to run a .jar
19:47 < karasz> LMJ you will find it in packages...
19:47 < LMJ> gonna try it if you think it will make the trick for my simple needs
19:48 < karasz> i found it more cleaner and stable then the others
19:48 < karasz> other than that i cannot say anything...
19:48 < LMJ> java, clean ? ;)
19:48 < karasz> well, if I can say so :D
19:49 < karasz> and I didn't say clean but cleaner....
19:53 < LMJ> damned
19:53 < LMJ> the blackdown ftp is lagging
19:59 < LMJ> strange, it also dl the 64bits version
20:01 < mnemoc> rehi
20:02 < rxr> hi mnemoc !
20:02 < mnemoc> hi rxr :)
20:02 < mnemoc> did i miss too much?
20:02 < karasz> hello mnemoc
20:02 < mnemoc> hi karasz
20:22 < morfoh> oh! señor mnemoc :)
20:25 < LMJ> looks like it works
20:30 < mnemoc> hi morfoh, LMJ
20:30 < LMJ> hello mnemoc
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21:11 < morfoh> rxr: my tests for transfering the t2-handbook from latex to txt and docbook are looking promising
21:15 < rxr> ,-)
21:15 < morfoh> already "ripping" some icons from svnbook :p
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21:29 < rxr> morfoh: ,-)
21:29 < mnemoc> CC?
21:30 < morfoh> rxr: do we wanna stay with a multi-part book ?
21:31 < mnemoc> can't be both?
21:33 < CIA-18> rene * r15632 /trunk/package/base/make/make-3.80-memory-2.patch:
21:33 < CIA-18> * imported make patch to reduce memory pressure, vital for gcc-4.1++
21:33 < CIA-18> and it's embedded *java* files, otherwise make eats about 600MB++ of
21:33 < CIA-18> memory, though with the patch it still appears to be in the 200MB
21:33 < CIA-18> region - at least way less ,-)
21:33 < rxr> morfoh: multi html file ?
21:33 < rxr> or do you mean this part I, II, III ?
21:33 < rxr> I do not care about the later - as long as it is a joy to read
21:33 < morfoh> rxr: I II III
21:34 < morfoh> I can generate single page and chunked xhtml for now
21:35 < morfoh> rxr: I just wanted to know, in what direction the book should evolve
21:35 < rxr> the parts can be dropped if this improves readability
21:35 < rxr> I think the handbook should envolve in the direction of the usual o'reily style - and/or what the old unixes had
21:35 < morfoh> rxr: I dunno ... I think if we split the book in parts for different skilled people
21:35 < morfoh> this could be nice
21:36 < rxr> e.g. sgi and co documentation shipped with each multi kEUR box
21:37 < morfoh> I think I'll leave the parts for now ... they are generated from splitted files anyway ... so we can reorganize the content later if we want to
21:41 < rxr> temperature: 63 C
21:41 < rxr> with more RAM and less i/o wait my subnotebook gets even hotter building stuff like gcc-3.1 including all langs such as java ...
21:45 < rxr> glibc-2.4 some time soon as well
21:45 < rxr> but our currently glibc snapshot is nicely stable - I fear updating it again a bit ;-(((
21:45 < rxr> javax/swing - juck
21:45 < rxr> guess I go to bed before 5-gcc *java* unk finished
21:46 < rxr> temperature: 64 C
21:47 < rxr> cu
21:48 < karasz> bye rxr
21:50 * karasz is goin' too
21:50 < karasz> cu guys
21:50 < morfoh> cu rxr, karasz
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23:31 < keinek> hi
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