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T2 IRC Log: 2006-02-01

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--- Log opened Wed Feb 01 00:00:03 2006
00:00 < morfoh> karasz: what do you want to start ?
00:00 < karasz> qmail and lighttpd
00:00 < karasz> and after i install it webmin
00:01 < morfoh> karasz: webmin ? arrrg ....
00:01 < karasz> ?
00:01 < morfoh> karasz: qmail should have installed the proper run files
00:01 < karasz> that is not sure yet, i will need some webmail
00:02 < karasz> it didn't
00:02 < karasz> ls /service
00:02 < karasz> bcron-scheduler bcron-updater clockspeed getty-2 getty-4 getty-6 klog spamassassin syslog
00:02 < karasz> .. bcron-spooler clamd getty-1 getty-3 getty-5 getty-console postgresql ssh taiclockd
00:03 < morfoh> what is in /etc/opt/qmail ?
00:04 < karasz> an empty dir named control
00:04 < karasz> an empty dir named control
00:04 < karasz> sorry
00:07 < morfoh> karasz: opt/qmail/boot/ ?
00:07 < karasz> root@expertweb:/etc/opt/bincimap# ls /opt/qmail/boot/
00:07 < karasz> . .. binm1 binm1+df binm2 binm2+df binm3 binm3+df home home+df multi proc proc+df
00:07 < morfoh> cat /var/adm/flists/qmail | grep run
00:08 < karasz> root@expertweb:/etc/opt/bincimap# cat /var/adm/flists/qmail | grep run
00:08 < karasz> root@expertweb:/etc/opt/bincimap#
00:09 < morfoh> do you have opt/qmail/boot/qmail/ *
00:10 < karasz> root@expertweb:/opt/qmail/boot# ls
00:10 < karasz> . .. binm1 binm1+df binm2 binm2+df binm3 binm3+df home home+df multi proc proc+df
00:10 < morfoh> cd qmail
00:10 < karasz> ?
00:11 < morfoh> nothing more ?
00:11 < karasz> nope
00:11 < morfoh> run scripts are missing
00:11 < karasz> . .. binm1 binm1+df binm2 binm2+df binm3 binm3+df home home+df multi proc proc+df
00:11 < karasz> ^^ those aren't run scripts?
00:12 < karasz> i mean they are not related to runit, but they start qmail...
00:12 < karasz> /opt/qmail/rc !!
00:12 < karasz> link to /opt/qmail/boot/multi
00:12 < morfoh> karasz: take a closer look at /services to understand runit ;)
00:13 < morfoh> cat /var/adm/flists/qmail | grep run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-imapd-ssl/log/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-imapd-ssl/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-imapd/log/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-imapd/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-pbsdbd/log/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-pbsdbd/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-pop3d-ssl/log/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-pop3d-ssl/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-pop3d/log/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-pop3d/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-qmqpd/log/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-qmqpd/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-smtpd/log/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail-smtpd/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail/log/run
00:13 < morfoh> qmail: opt/qmail/boot/qmail/run
00:14 < karasz> ok, i do not have those.... :(
00:14 < morfoh> then there must be sth. wrong with the installation
00:14 < karasz> ack
00:15 < karasz> so i have at least 3 candidates for that
00:16 < karasz> bincimap, lighttpd, qmail
00:16 < karasz> they all lack run scripts ...
00:16 < morfoh> binc too ?
00:16 < karasz> yup
00:17 < morfoh> I don't know if mnemoc changed sth. on 2.1 regarding the init scripts ... but I doubt that.
00:18 < karasz> me too, i must have forgotten something....
00:19 < morfoh> and the above mentioned dirs under /service were there after install, or did you linked some manually ?
00:20 < karasz> i didn't touched anuthing
00:21 < morfoh> cat /var/adm/flists/bincimap | grep run
00:21 < karasz> there is some strange stuff too
00:21 < karasz> in /service there is postgresql which points to /etc/opt/postgresql
00:22 < morfoh> karasz: that's not strange
00:22 < morfoh> that's common
00:22 < karasz> wait a little :)
00:22 < karasz> ls /etc/opt/postgresql
00:22 < karasz> . .. env log run supervise
00:22 < karasz> that is good.
00:22 < karasz> but
00:22 < karasz> ls /etc/opt/bincimap/
00:22 < karasz> . .. bincimap-config bincimap-localconfig xinetd-bincimap xinetd-bincimaps
00:23 < karasz> does not seem like dir for runit to me...
00:23 < karasz> same for lighttpd
00:23 < morfoh> ack
00:23 < morfoh> 2.1 mnemosyne I guess ?
00:23 < karasz> ls /etc/opt/lighttpd/
00:23 < karasz> . .. pear.conf
00:23 < karasz> yes
00:24 < karasz> 2.1 mnemosyne + a very tired karas -> nothin good
00:24 < karasz> at least it installed and boots ok
00:24 < morfoh> then go sleep ;)
00:24 < karasz> tomorow is anothe rday ;)
00:24 < morfoh> hopefully :)
00:24 < karasz> i will take your advice kommrad ;)
00:24 < karasz> nah, don't be like that
00:25 < morfoh> :)
00:25 < karasz> i have pretty solid inside info that tomorow _will_ be another day
00:25 < karasz> and a bit longer that today too ;)
00:25 < morfoh> ok ... thanks for sharing your insider knowledge :)
00:25 < karasz> :D
00:26 * karasz off to sleep
00:26 < karasz> cu guys
00:26 < morfoh> gn8 karasz
00:26 < karasz> bye
00:37 < CIA-7> aldas * r15167 /trunk/package/gnome2/goffice/goffice.desc: * updated goffice (0.1.2 -> 0.2.0)
00:43 < CIA-7> aldas * r15168 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnumeric/gnumeric.desc: * updated gnumeric (1.6.1 -> 1.6.2)
01:03 < Baldzius> mnemoc?
01:14 < morfoh> Baldzius: hopefully master mnemoc did not too much bike stunts on the way home :)
01:14 < CIA-7> aldas * r15169 /trunk/package/network/samba/ (6 files): * updated samba (3.0.21a -> 3.0.21b)
01:15 < Baldzius> morfoh :)))))))
01:15 < morfoh> .oO( god save our stable tree maintainer )o :)
01:16 < Baldzius> too bad bikes don't have air bags & seat belts - it's really dangerous to bike in town
01:17 < Baldzius> ^^ from my practise :)
01:17 < morfoh> so you have to wear a airfilled jacket and a helmet :)
01:19 < morfoh> or you can also use a rocket like our misl boy ... just launching it when it becomes "hot" :)
01:19 < Baldzius> bulletproof jacket and militar helmet :)
01:20 < morfoh> do they shoot on your streets ? ;)
01:21 < Baldzius> no :)
01:22 < morfoh> who knows ... perhaps there are some car drivers doing drive by shooting bikers in your town :p
01:23 < Baldzius> nah, lithuanians are peaceful :)
01:23 < morfoh> yeah ... that are the most dangerous ones :)
01:24 < Baldzius> a? what? who? :)
01:26 < morfoh> if I'd know who, I'd tell you :)
01:27 < Baldzius> hehe, ic :)
01:27 < morfoh> Baldzius: I don't know many lithuanians, but there are some suspects :)
01:27 < Baldzius> like me? :)
01:28 < Baldzius> i told you i am out of ammo :)
01:28 < morfoh> Baldzius: I know the tricks ;)
01:29 < Baldzius> yeah, never trust a man with a wooden gun :))))
01:30 < morfoh> nobody knows what kind of WMD you were holding in your hand :))))
01:33 < Baldzius> :)
01:34 < Baldzius> well mnemoc isn't answering so i guess i'll spam channel with kde update
01:34 < Baldzius> he doesn't like huge updates with 1 commit
01:34 < morfoh> yeah
01:35 < morfoh> if you have to merge a lot it is quite understable ;)
01:37 < Baldzius> well no fun to merge 19 commits :)
01:37 < Baldzius> when u can only 1
01:39 < CIA-7> aldas * r15170 /trunk/package/kde/arts/ (arts.conf arts.desc): * updated arts (1.5.0 -> 1.5.1)
01:40 < CIA-7> aldas * r15171 /trunk/package/kde/kdeaccessibility/kdeaccessibility.desc: * updated kdeaccessibility (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:40 < CIA-7> aldas * r15172 /trunk/package/kde/kdeaddons/kdeaddons.desc: * updated kdeaddons (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:40 < CIA-7> aldas * r15173 /trunk/package/kde/kdeadmin/ (kdeadmin.desc libtool-fix.patch): * updated kdeadmin (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:41 < CIA-7> aldas * r15174 /trunk/package/kde/kdeartwork/kdeartwork.desc: * updated kdeartwork (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:42 < CIA-7> aldas * r15175 /trunk/package/kde/kdebase/ (kdebase.conf kdebase.desc kdm.postinstall sasl2.patch): * updated kdebase (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:42 < CIA-7> aldas * r15176 /trunk/package/kde/kdebindings/ (4 files): * updated kdebindings (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:43 < CIA-7> aldas * r15177 /trunk/package/kde/kdeedu/ (kdeedu.conf kdeedu.desc): * updated kdeedu (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:43 < CIA-7> aldas * r15178 /trunk/package/kde/kdegames/kdegames.desc: * updated kdegames (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:43 < CIA-7> aldas * r15179 /trunk/package/kde/kdegraphics/ (kdegraphics.conf kdegraphics.desc): * updated kdegraphics (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:44 < CIA-7> aldas * r15180 /trunk/package/kde/kdelibs/ (6 files): * updated kdelibs (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:44 < CIA-7> aldas * r15181 /trunk/package/kde/kdemultimedia/ (kdemultimedia.desc wordsize_check.patch.disabled): * updated kdemultimedia (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:45 < CIA-7> aldas * r15182 /trunk/package/kde/kdenetwork/kdenetwork.desc: * updated kdenetwork (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:45 < CIA-7> aldas * r15183 /trunk/package/kde/kdepim/kdepim.desc: * updated kdepim (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:45 < CIA-7> aldas * r15184 /trunk/package/kde/kdesdk/kdesdk.desc: * updated kdesdk (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:46 < CIA-7> aldas * r15185 /trunk/package/kde/kdetoys/kdetoys.desc: * updated kdetoys (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:46 < mnemoc> re
01:46 < CIA-7> aldas * r15186 /trunk/package/kde/kdeutils/kdeutils.desc: * updated kdeutils (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:46 < mnemoc> karasz: look inside runit/packages dir
01:46 < morfoh> Baldzius: there he is
01:46 < CIA-7> aldas * r15187 /trunk/package/kde/kdevelop/kdevelop.desc: * updated kdevelop (3.2.3 -> 3.3.1)
01:47 < CIA-7> aldas * r15188 /trunk/package/kde/kdewebdev/kdewebdev.desc: * updated kdewebdev (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
01:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: I hope you had a save journey ... wb :)
01:47 < mnemoc> i was cutting my hear
01:47 < mnemoc> sure, i'm quite used to it
01:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: no hippie anymore ?
01:47 < mnemoc> afro :)
01:48 < Baldzius> morfoh: too late, already did crime :)
01:48 < morfoh> yo! my brother :)
01:48 < morfoh> ;D
01:48 < mnemoc> Baldzius: what crime?
01:48 < Baldzius> :)
01:49 < Baldzius> updated kde in separate commits
01:50 < mnemoc> Baldzius: perfect :)
01:50 < Baldzius> oh , i thought you'll be angry :))))
01:50 < morfoh> Baldzius: :D
01:51 < Baldzius> joking :)
01:51 < Baldzius> i remember you like that way
02:03 < CIA-7> aldas * r15189 /trunk/package/network/bittorrent/bittorrent.desc: * updated bittorrent (4.3.6 -> 4.4.0)
02:10 < mnemoc> Error logs from azazel-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-azazel:
02:10 < mnemoc> 572 builds total, 566 completed fine, 0 with errors.
02:10 < morfoh> :)
02:11 < morfoh> let's see if it will boot :)
02:11 < mnemoc> == 23:09:38 =[5]=> Building office/ooo [2.0.1.1 2.2.0-alpha].
02:11 < morfoh> do you have qemu around ?
02:11 < mnemoc> next package will take a bit longer
02:11 < morfoh> oh!
02:11 < morfoh> ic :)
02:11 < CIA-7> aldas * r15190 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3)
02:15 < Baldzius> gn8
02:15 < mnemoc> date: write error: No space left on device
02:15 < mnemoc> gn8 Baldzius
02:15 < morfoh> gn8 Baldzius
02:39 < CIA-7> amery * r15191 /trunk/package/graphic/ghostscript/no_gtk.diff: * added forgotten patch to ghostscript (gtk-less)
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07:23 < rxr> re
07:24 < rxr> mnemoc: there is ooo 2.0.1.2 already ,-)
08:25 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178136026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2
08:25 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
08:25 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006]
08:25 [Users #t2]
08:25 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ raamcm] [ valentin]
08:25 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ _Ragnar_]
08:25 [ CIA-7 ] [ LMJ ] [ owl_ ] [ rxr_ ]
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08:58 < jsaw> g'morning
09:09 < rxr_> moin jsaw
09:09 < jsaw> hi rxr_
09:09 * rxr_ heading to "office" - cu
09:09 < jsaw> cu
09:10 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15192 /trunk/package/network/avahi/avahi.conf: * add forgotten avahi.conf
09:15 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15193 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.conf: * add udev extras until we have replacements and rules are cleaned up
09:22 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15194 /trunk/package/graphic/scribus/ (scribus.conf scribus.desc):
09:22 < CIA-7> * update scribus (1.3.1 -> 1.3.2)
09:22 < CIA-7> * copyright update
09:27 < LMJ> moin moin
09:36 < jsaw> hi LMJ
09:38 < LMJ> how are you dude ?
09:38 < jsaw> hmmm, is "hacking autoconf" answer enough?
09:39 < jsaw> ;)
09:39 < jsaw> fine :)
09:39 < jsaw> 'n you?
09:50 < rxr_> re
10:09 < LMJ> fine too ;)
10:09 < LMJ> good luck
10:10 -!- owl_ is now known as owl
10:10 < owl> moin
10:11 < LMJ> moi
10:20 < jsaw> # We may get other options which we leave undocumented:
10:20 < jsaw> # --with-target-subdir, --with-multisrctop, --with-multisubdir
10:20 < jsaw> # See config-ml.in if you want the gory details.
10:21 < jsaw> .oO(suckers)
10:22 < owl> hi LMJ
10:40 < karasz> moin all
10:41 < owl> hi karasz
10:41 < karasz> is there some way to buid desktop only with kde?
10:57 < karasz> so, naybody?
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11:35 < karasz> is there some way to buid desktop only with kde?
11:37 < owl> karasz: ?
11:37 < karasz> wes owl ?
11:37 < owl> why are you repeating yourself? :)
11:38 < karasz> maybe someone will get anoyed and will respond :)
11:38 < owl> lol
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11:46 < rxr_> hm - me hungry ...
11:46 * rxr_ off hunting
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11:52 < jsaw> off working... cu later
11:52 < karasz> cu jsaw
12:09 < CIA-7> rene * r15195 /trunk/target/archivista/build.sh: * added code to archivista to inject content from an isofs/ into the CD image
12:11 < CIA-7> rene * r15196 /trunk/target/archivista/build_image.sh: * latest and indented archivista/build_image.sh
12:11 < rxr> so - lunch
12:13 < CIA-7> aldas * r15197 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-bg/ (kde-i18n-bg.conf kde-i18n-bg.desc): * updated kde-i18n-bg (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
12:14 < CIA-7> aldas * r15198 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-de/ (kde-i18n-de.conf kde-i18n-de.desc): * updated kde-i18n-de (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
12:14 < CIA-7> aldas * r15199 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-es/ (kde-i18n-es.conf kde-i18n-es.desc): * updated kde-i18n-es (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
12:14 < CIA-7> aldas * r15200 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-fr/ (kde-i18n-fr.conf kde-i18n-fr.desc): * updated kde-i18n-fr (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
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12:15 < CIA-7> aldas * r15201 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-it/ (kde-i18n-it.conf kde-i18n-it.desc): * updated kde-i18n-it (3.5.0 -> 3.5.1)
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12:23 < mnemoc> moin
12:23 < owl> hi mnemoc
12:23 < mnemoc> hi owlita
12:24 < mnemoc> rxr: does it crash as often as 2.0.1.1 to you?
12:25 < mnemoc> In function `_AuConnectServer':ConnSvr.c:(.text+0xb2c): undefined reference to `XauDisposeAuth'
12:25 < mnemoc> :ConnSvr.c:(.text+0xc95): undefined reference to `XauGetBestAuthByAddr'
12:25 < mnemoc> yuck :(
12:25 < mnemoc> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
12:25 < mnemoc> dmake: Error code 1, while making '../unxlngi6.pro/lib/libvclplug_gen680li.so'
12:27 < karasz> moin mnemoc
12:28 < mnemoc> moin karasz
12:30 < karasz> mnemoc: i'd like to be green on frapr...
12:30 < karasz> is it possible?
12:31 < mnemoc> can't you set yourself?
12:32 < karasz> i didnt find the setting
12:32 < karasz> i gues it is admin related
12:32 < mnemoc> it should be on your preferences
12:32 < karasz> but that is frivolous anyway
12:32 < karasz> i read what you said last night after i left
12:32 < mnemoc> frivolous makes the life lighter
12:32 < karasz> mnemoc karasz: look inside runit/packages dir
12:32 < karasz> i looked
12:33 < karasz> but i didn't find anything interestin'....
12:33 < mnemoc> there are two kind of files there
12:33 < mnemoc> .tail and .txt
12:33 < mnemoc> karasz: frapper say green=contributor....
12:34 < karasz> ?
12:34 < karasz> red is contributor
12:34 < mnemoc> err
12:34 < mnemoc> yes, that
12:34 < karasz> green=other
12:34 < mnemoc> why 'other' and not contributor?
12:34 < karasz> i am that other ;)
12:34 < mnemoc> should is switch colors?
12:34 < karasz> mnemoc: will talk abt that later, if you do not mind as it is not important
12:35 < karasz> more important is my mnemosyne
12:35 < karasz> err,..
12:35 < karasz> your mnemosyne, which i managed to build
12:39 < karasz> i do not find a dir runit/packages/ ....
12:39 < rxr> re
12:39 < rxr> moin mnemoc
12:40 < mnemoc> karasz: package/*/runit/packages&
12:40 < mnemoc> moin rxr
12:40 < karasz> moin rxr
12:40 < mnemoc> karasz: your are green now
12:41 < karasz> thank you very much mnemoc
12:41 < mnemoc> yw
12:41 < karasz> root@expertweb:~# ls /package/admin/runit/package/
12:41 < karasz> . .. CHANGES COPYING README THANKS TODO check commands sharing versions
12:41 < karasz> all files, no dirs
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12:43 < karasz> is that ok?
12:45 < mnemoc> karasz: t2 source!
12:46 < karasz> i have to svn that as i d not have source
12:46 < mnemoc> /usr/src/t2-src
12:46 < karasz> i built a mnemosyne and installed the isos
12:46 < karasz> on a fresh system
12:47 < karasz> there is no sources on it yet
12:47 < mnemoc> :\
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12:47 < karasz> only /usr/src/linux26-patches/
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12:48 < mnemoc> :(
12:49 < karasz> ?
12:50 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/runit/packages/
12:50 < karasz> i have to svn 2.1 stable than inject mnemosyne?
12:50 < mnemoc> yes, or 2.1-test
12:50 < karasz> but it is strange...
12:50 < mnemoc> what?
12:51 < karasz> clamd and postgresql and spamassassin are ok, they have the runit files and in the right place
12:51 < karasz> lightttpd, qmail and bincimap lack those files..
12:51 < karasz> i wonder why...
12:51 < mnemoc> because i haven't write them yet
12:52 < karasz> ahum, so it wasn't me
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12:52 < karasz> nice feelin' that for a change i didn't did anything wrong :)
12:54 < mnemoc> karasz: everything runit knows to start is at http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/base/runit/packages/
12:54 < mnemoc> karasz: add the missing .tail files there
12:54 < karasz> ic
12:54 < karasz> there as in make a diff from trunk?
12:55 < mnemoc> please rephrase
12:55 < karasz> sorry, still tired and i guess i am not very fluent :(
12:55 < karasz> so
12:55 < karasz> you want me to make those files and send them as patch form diff to the ML?
12:57 < karasz> mnemoc: please add subversion to mnemosyne
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13:06 < sepp> hi karasz
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13:09 < karasz> damn
13:09 < karasz> no curl
13:10 < karasz> i'll dld and Build-Pack
13:19 < mnemoc> Emerge-Pkg :)
13:21 < rxr_> re
13:22 -!- You're now known as rxr
13:22 < mnemoc> wb rxr
13:24 < karasz> hi rxr
13:24 < karasz> Emerge complains that does not find curl...
13:25 < karasz> when buildin curl :D
13:28 < mnemoc> fetch it by hand and Download -alt-dir $HOME/something curl
13:28 < karasz> btw I started a new HEAD desktom X86-64
13:28 < mnemoc> lftpget may be installed
13:28 < mnemoc> or wget
13:28 < mnemoc> or fget
13:29 < karasz> yes, only lftpget
13:30 < mnemoc> -- Development
13:30 < mnemoc> [ ] devtools
13:30 < mnemoc> is what you missed
13:30 < karasz> but curl is buildin... just it takes a little too long
13:31 < karasz> after curl i'll get svn so i can inject mnemosyne in the tree
13:31 < karasz> good, curl built and functional
13:31 < karasz> you are right mnemoc
13:32 < karasz> that one i missed
13:32 < karasz> but...
13:32 < mnemoc> karasz: see the packages in there and emerge them all
13:33 < karasz> shouldn't toose tools be enabled by default, just to help users like me to not do stupid things
13:34 < mnemoc> nope
13:35 < mnemoc> because in most cases the target is not build to develop T2, it's built to provide services or been a business desktop
13:35 < karasz> ok
13:36 < mnemoc> but it's just a check you wont miss next time :)
13:36 < karasz> that is for sure ;)
13:37 < karasz> subversion only need apr, apr-utils and neon?
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13:42 < mnemoc> karasz: yes
13:42 < mnemoc> wb sparc-kly
13:43 < sparc-kly> hi all
13:43 < karasz> hi sparc-kly
13:51 < karasz> > Building at76c503a within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
13:51 < karasz> !> Warning: Failed building at76c503a.
13:51 < karasz> -> Building hostap within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
13:51 < karasz> -> Building lazyfs within linux26 (using postlinux.conf).
13:51 < karasz> !> Warning: Failed building lazyfs.
13:51 < karasz> HEAD desktop
13:51 < karasz> 86-64
13:51 < karasz> build goes on...
13:51 < karasz> should I care?
13:53 < rxr> nope
13:53 < rxr> one is a speudo fs I few people need, the other a wlan driver IIRC
13:54 < karasz> yes
13:54 < karasz> that is corect
13:54 < karasz> hello rxr
13:55 * karasz .oO( did I already greeted rxr?? )Oo.
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14:49 < morfoh> hi
14:58 < Baldzius> hi morfoh
14:58 < morfoh> hi gun boy :)
14:59 < Baldzius> :)
15:03 < karasz> hi morfoh Baldzius
15:04 < morfoh> hi "another-day" karasz :)
15:04 < Baldzius> hi karasz
15:05 < morfoh> karasz: but it seems you were right with your thesis
15:05 < karasz> see?
15:05 < karasz> but it was not a thesis, just some inside info :D
15:07 < morfoh> ;)
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15:12 < karasz> wb mnemoc
15:13 < CIA-7> aldas * r15203 /trunk/package/gnome2/diacanvas/ (diacanvas.conf diacanvas.desc gnomecanvas_py.patch):
15:13 < CIA-7> * updated diacanvas (0.14.2 -> 0.14.3)
15:13 < CIA-7> * removed gnomecanvas_py.patch - obsolete
15:15 < morfoh> yeah ... wb master mnemoc :)
15:17 < CIA-7> aldas * r15204 /trunk/package/develop/gaphor/ (gaphor.conf gaphor.desc): * updated gaphor (0.7.1 -> 0.8.0)
15:18 < karasz> mnemoc: what is the difference between .tail and .txt?
15:19 < karasz> hmm i guess i need to do .txts
15:25 < morfoh> karasz: what service ?
15:26 < karasz> no service\
15:26 < morfoh> what package ?
15:27 < karasz> i am tryin to add a patch for lighttpd qmail and friends
15:43 < CIA-7> chris * r15205 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.3 -> 0.9.4)
15:44 < CIA-7> chris * r15206 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/libpreludedb.desc: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.2 -> 0.9.3)
15:44 < CIA-7> chris * r15207 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
15:44 < CIA-7> chris * r15208 /trunk/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * updated prelude-manager (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
15:57 < rxr> iptables-1.3.5
16:34 < CIA-7> aldas * r15209 /trunk/package/security/openssh/ (7 files): * updated openssh (4.2p1 -> 4.3p1)
16:41 < CIA-7> aldas * r15210 /trunk/package/network/iptables/ (iptables.conf iptables.desc rocknet_iptables.sh): * updated iptables (1.3.4 -> 1.3.5)
16:48 < rxr> valentin: alive ?
17:03 < valentin> rxr: what's up ?
17:05 < rxr> ah hi
17:05 < rxr> valentin: uni or home?
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: ooo 2.0.1.whatever works on ppc
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc: though it is in spanish susan tells me on the phohne ...
17:05 < valentin> rxr: want to travel home in some minutes
17:07 < rxr> valentin: ok - we could phone then
17:09 < valentin> ou can call me on my mobile
17:09 < rxr> no
17:09 < rxr> too expensive and noisy
17:10 < rxr> I can wait
17:10 < valentin> as you wish... cu then
17:14 < rxr> cu
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17:31 < Bart-> hi
17:42 < rxr> moin Bart-
17:59 < _Ragnar_> hi hi
18:00 < rxr> hey raamcm
18:01 < rxr> hey _Ragnar_ - even
18:01 < rxr> too many r*s here ,-)
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18:01 < _Ragnar_> :)
18:25 < rxr> wow
18:25 < rxr> aside that xcompmgr has some strange bugs on ppc65
18:25 < rxr> ppc64
18:25 < rxr> compositing performance is astonishing on that box
18:25 < rxr> even with the xcomopmgr running on my laptop! !!!!
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18:49 < CIA-7> aldas * r15212 /trunk/package/network/webmin/ (6 files): * updated webmin (1.250 -> 1.260)
18:50 < mnemoc> rxr_: ooo in spanish??!
18:50 < mnemoc> karasz: prefer .tail
18:54 < CIA-7> amery * r15213 /branches/2.1-test/package/office/ooo/ooo.conf: * fixed ooo package to use en-US as default language, es leaked in from my working copy. sorry
18:55 < Bart-> what is a difference between Rock copyright and T2 copyright and how to avoid generating prior one?
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18:56 < mnemoc> Bart-: use Create-CopyPatch
18:57 < Bart-> mnemoc, I.m using this but those patches not always are the same
18:57 < mnemoc> Bart-: ROCK copyright goes just to old files
18:57 < rxr_> mnemoc: susan said
18:57 < mnemoc> rxr_: yes, i found that bug at 2.1-test. fixed with 15213 sorry
18:58 < Bart-> I got "+# This patch file is dual-licensed. It is available under the license the" whie generating copy-patch for patch file but there is another one for *.desc file?
18:58 < mnemoc> Bart-: don't copy copyright notes from other files
18:59 < Bart-> mnemoc, I'm not coping anytyhing, see craps I sent yesterday to ML - first one is different
19:00 < mnemoc> Bart-: on habak you took the copyright of a different package
19:00 < Bart-> so I don't know if rxr missed something or first one is wrong one but all was generated using Create-CopyPatch
19:00 < rxr_> mnemoc: heh!
19:01 < Bart-> aaa, right, it was based on another file
19:01 < mnemoc> rxr_: mea culpa :(
19:02 < mnemoc> Bart-: use misc/archive/newpackage.desc to generate new .desc files
19:02 < mnemoc> or misc/archive/fmnewpackage.sh to do it based on info published at freshmeat
19:03 < mnemoc> yuck^2 install output impose lot of dependencies: (
19:05 < mnemoc> i'm not sure if i like this install-ability forcing packages on the target
19:07 < rxr_> mnemoc: at least good to know OOo on ppc runs now ...
19:07 < rxr_> last time it did onyl build and segfault on startup ...
19:07 -!- You're now known as rxr
19:07 < rxr> I just let susan rebuil
19:07 < rxr> d
19:07 < mnemoc> rxr: just another 7 hours :p
19:09 < rxr> mnemoc: on the G3 iBook it is more like 15++h ...
19:09 * mnemoc ashamed
19:09 < rxr> I could build on my dual-core ppc64 if I would have a 32bit userspac eon it ...
19:09 < rxr> mnemoc: susan does know a few spanish vocables it might do until it is rebuild
19:09 < mnemoc> please ask susan to forgive me :\
19:10 < mnemoc> ah, good :)
19:10 < rxr> with a really quite fast compositing X this ppc64 box is even more fun then before
19:10 * rxr really astonished about the shear ammount of number crunching this box can do ...
19:10 < rxr> because I have no hw acceleration for those ops in the nv driver on that box ..
19:11 < rxr> and stil full screen transparent windows are usefully fast
19:11 < rxr> not to mention flicker free normal sized terminals
19:14 < CIA-7> aldas * r15214 /trunk/package/graphic/xchm/xchm.desc: * updated xchm (1.2 -> 1.3)
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19:18 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
19:19 < mnemoc> wb morfoh
19:19 < morfoh> thx mnemoc :)
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19:29 < misl> hi folks
19:30 < morfoh> hi rocket men
19:31 < rxr> warning: Breakpoint address adjusted from 0x400000a2398 to 0x00003670.
19:31 < rxr> Breakpoint 4 at 0x3670
19:31 < rxr> (gdb) c
19:31 < rxr> Continuing.
19:31 < rxr> Warning:
19:31 < rxr> Cannot insert breakpoint 4.
19:31 < rxr> Error accessing memory address 0x3670: Input/output error.
19:31 < rxr> hm
19:31 < rxr> this debugger is not exactly rock solid ...
19:31 < rxr> ppc64 ...
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19:33 < mnemoc> rxr: can i change install/stage2 to test using -x instead of -f for $progs ?
19:33 < rxr> hm - sounds ok
19:33 < mnemoc> thanks :) on runit some are symlinks :p
19:40 < Bart-> mnemoc, runit does not work with mingetty --autologin
19:41 < Bart-> mnemoc, probably because runsvdir changes dev/tty[1-6] perms to 600 root:root and kills the feature ;[
19:43 < mnemoc> runsvdir changes perms?? i doubt
19:43 < morfoh> rxr: do you see any chance for getting together on a weekend for WLAN AP hacking ? Additionaly a friend donated a Sinus 154 DSL Basic SE WLAN Router today. It is based on the AR7 platform of TI. <-- http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/bcg/bcggencontent.tsp?templateId=6116&navigationId=11917&path=templatedata/cm/general/data/bcgmiddl/ar7_cpe
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19:45 < morfoh> rxr: the openwrt folks have support for AR7 based in their trunk, and there are even some patches for the Sinus 154
19:45 < Bart-> mnemoc, sorry, runsv
19:46 * mnemoc kicks install/build_stage2.sh away
19:46 < Bart-> brb
19:46 < morfoh> mnemoc: what happened ?
19:47 < mnemoc> hardcoded piece of cr^Wscript
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19:57 < veki> hi
19:58 < CIA-7> aldas * r15215 /trunk/package/network/quagga/quagga.desc: * updated quagga (0.99.2 -> 0.99.3)
19:58 < veki> rxr: did you get my mail message?
19:59 < mnemoc> rxr: svn mv mozilla seamonkey ?
20:06 < _Ragnar_> why is geany built in 4 ???
20:06 < _Ragnar_> stage 4
20:07 < _Ragnar_> when it's [P] X ----5---9 110.000
20:08 * _Ragnar_ confused
20:09 < mnemoc> grep geany config/foo/packages
20:09 < _Ragnar_> there it appears with 4 and 8
20:09 < _Ragnar_> >.<
20:09 < mnemoc> o_O
20:10 < mnemoc> only geany?
20:10 < _Ragnar_> yea only one
20:10 < mnemoc> >_<
20:11 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: aha!
20:11 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: a '-' is missing
20:11 < _Ragnar_> oh
20:11 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
20:11 * _Ragnar_ giggles
20:12 < CIA-7> ragnar * r15216 /trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc: * geany [P] line was missing a '-'
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20:21 < CIA-7> amery * r15217 /trunk/package/editors/pida/pida.desc: * updated pida (0.3.0beta -> 0.3.0-rc1)
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20:52 < rxr> tracked down yet another upstream bug:
20:52 < rxr> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1425
20:52 < rxr> over a year open - opened by gentoo folks ..
20:53 < rxr> wonders why they can just compile stuff together with a lot of loop unrolling and not help fix bugs ...
20:57 < veki> rxr: did you receive my mail in whihc I forwarded info from Genesi manager?
20:58 < rxr> veki: .oO
20:58 < rxr> veki: yes, had no time today ..
20:58 < rxr> guess this has to wait till tomorrow evening or friday .-(
20:58 < veki> ok, please contact them, I think that hey can send you one EFIKA board for testing :-)
20:58 < veki> rxr: you can freely recall on my name ..
20:59 < veki> rxr: if you need any assistance in communication with them, please let me know, I will be happy to help you
21:00 < veki> I have to go to sleep now, cu tomorrow
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21:24 < rxr> so - cu
21:25 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15218 /trunk/package/lua/lua-posix/ (5 files):
21:25 < CIA-7> * use CLOCKS_PER_SEC, not CLK_TCK
21:25 < CIA-7> * copyright updates
21:26 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15219 /trunk/package/lua/luatar/ (compile-fix.patch luatar.desc):
21:26 < CIA-7> * compile fix (missing include path)
21:26 < CIA-7> * copyright update
21:26 < mnemoc> cu rxr
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21:26 < _Ragnar_> O_O
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22:37 < rxr> re
22:37 < mnemoc> wb rxr
22:38 < rxr> mnemoc: what was the synsyntx for two or more languages in ooo?
22:38 < rxr> LANG="en-US,de-DE"?
22:38 < mnemoc> good question
22:38 < mnemoc> btw, that is UI language only, set by matching LANG
22:39 < mnemoc> i guess it's space delimited
22:39 < mnemoc> but i'm not sure how var_append will react
22:39 < mnemoc> i think it's easier to patch a comma2space convertion inside configure ...
22:40 < mnemoc> let me take a look
22:41 < mnemoc> yes, space delimited
22:41 < mnemoc> configure:5328:# --with-lang="en-US cs"
22:42 < rxr> mnemoc: ok will try on susans iBook ...
22:43 < mnemoc> rxr: this may be needed http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/6ha6QU75.html
22:44 < mnemoc> == 18:52:32 =[5]=> Building office/ooo [2.0.1.2 2.2.0-alpha]. <--- 1h ago
22:45 < mnemoc> all patches apply
22:48 < rxr> #Build [9] at 01/31/2006 from 21:45:19 to 14:47:11 CET
22:48 < rxr> ^- 16:15 on this 900MHz G3 iBook ...
22:50 < rxr> mnemoc: oh
22:50 < rxr> mnemoc: are you on the ooo goooo or whatever list?
22:50 < rxr> mnemoc: could you send my 64bit rediff upstream?
22:50 < rxr> -var_append confopt ' ' "'--with-lang=$ooo_lang'"
22:50 < rxr> +var_append confopt ' ' "--with-lang='$ooo_lang'"
22:50 < rxr> for style
22:51 < rxr> that diff is building on susans iBook now
22:51 < rxr> with LAND="en-US de"
22:51 < rxr> is just de fine ?
22:56 < mnemoc> rxr: iirc var_append doesn't like --foo='thing'
22:56 < rxr> why not ?
22:56 < mnemoc> rxr: iirc it over escape them
22:56 < rxr> I do not see a reason off hand
22:57 < mnemoc> see XTRACE output
22:57 < rxr> are you sure ?
22:57 < mnemoc> rxr: they don't receive patches to releases, just to cvs
22:57 < mnemoc> not 100%
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22:58 < rxr> mnemoc: it applied to .1 and .2 send it and hope it applies to cvs ,-)
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22:58 < mnemoc> ok :)
22:59 * mnemoc riding home, bbl :)
23:00 < rxr> cu
23:00 * rxr riding into the bed ...
23:00 < mnemoc> :)
23:00 < mnemoc> cu after-ooo
23:01 < rxr> susan's will not be finished when we awake ...
23:01 < mnemoc> well... after my ooo
23:01 < mnemoc> :)
23:01 < mnemoc> bye
23:15 < rxr> cu all
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