--- Log opened Sun Jan 29 00:00:44 2006
00:05 < Baldzius> jsaw: ----^^ gcc: /usr/lib/libsysfs.so: No such file or directory
00:08 < jsaw> oh my
00:08 < jsaw> Baldzius: which package
00:08 < jsaw> ?
00:08 < Baldzius> libchipcard2
00:09 < jsaw> was it ok before?
00:09 < Baldzius> yes
00:09 < jsaw> o.O
00:09 < Baldzius> i'll try to compile it in chroot
00:09 < Baldzius> now
00:09 < Baldzius> updating gwenhywfar
00:09 < jsaw> hmmm
00:10 < Baldzius> you removed my dirty hack :)
00:10 < Baldzius> ugly :)
00:12 < jsaw> ?
00:12 < jsaw> what ugly hack?
00:14 < Baldzius> var_append LDFLAGS ' ' "-L$root/lib##*"
00:14 < jsaw> ah, that one
00:14 < Baldzius> heh
00:15 < Baldzius> but it compile in chroot
00:15 < Baldzius> oh g*, i guess i need to get fo myself new system
00:15 < jsaw> I have quite some more checks running here (.la files...)
00:16 < jsaw> so, maybe you'll find /usr/lib/libsysfs... in some .la file on your system...
00:17 < jsaw> but I also have some major libtool modifications which might interfere...
00:18 < Baldzius> in that case i think courier-authlib.conf is really unnecessary
00:19 < mnemoc> re
00:19 < Baldzius> wb mnemoc
00:19 < mnemoc> "-L$root/lib##*" ????
00:19 < Baldzius> :)
00:19 < mnemoc> that doesn't have any sense
00:20 < mnemoc> what do you think you are doing there?
00:21 < Baldzius> it was "-L$root/lib"
00:21 < Baldzius> i just added ##*
00:21 < mnemoc> why?
00:22 < Baldzius> i added it when posted
00:22 < Baldzius> in conf it is without those ##*
00:23 < mnemoc> and why are you adding those chars to -L ?
00:23 < jsaw> it was already there, he just fixed what he saw for libdir != *lib
00:24 < mnemoc> o_O
00:24 < jsaw> *GAAAAAAHHHH*
00:24 < jsaw> # libchipcard-config --libraries
00:24 < jsaw> -L/usr/lib -lchipcard
00:24 < jsaw> DAMN HARDCODED PATHS
00:27 < Baldzius> jsaw: can you look at courier-authlib
00:27 < Baldzius> ^^ it fails without .conf
00:28 < jsaw> what failes exactly?
00:28 < jsaw> fails
00:29 < Baldzius> /usr/lib/shadow.so: no such file or directory
00:29 < jsaw> Baldzius: btw, we have a link of /lib*/libsysfs.so int /usr/lib*/
00:29 < jsaw> oh, shadow, wait
00:29 < jsaw> libshadow.so link also present
00:30 < jsaw> so, courier-authlib fails because it tries to find libs in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64 ...?
00:31 < jsaw> lemma guess, openssl detection causes it...
00:31 < Baldzius> instead /lib i think
00:31 < jsaw> -L/lib* is never necessary!!!
00:32 < jsaw> (as long as the link to /usr/lib* is done correctly...)
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00:33 < jsaw> # libchipcard-config --libraries
00:33 < jsaw> -L/usr/lib64 -lchipcard
00:33 < jsaw> much better
00:34 < Baldzius> rebuilding pam/shadow
00:34 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15110 /trunk/package/security/libchipcard/libchipcard.conf:
00:34 < CIA-7> * add fix for libchipcard-config to spit out the
00:34 < CIA-7> correct linker path for --libraries
00:35 < jsaw> finally, openhbci compiled
00:36 < jsaw> only I dislike the plugins path
00:36 < jsaw> usr/lib/openhbci/plugins/
00:36 < jsaw> should also be usr/lib64, hmmm
00:38 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15111 /trunk/package/security/openhbci/ (openhbci.conf openhbci.desc): * libdir != *lib fixes (build and openhbci-config script)
00:43 < jsaw> mnemoc: what was the end of the story of the gdm uid fix?
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00:44 < owl> re
00:45 < mnemoc> jsaw: 500
00:45 < mnemoc> wb owl
00:45 < jsaw> hi owl
00:45 < mnemoc> jsaw: that seems to make everyone happy
00:45 < jsaw> mnemoc: but the patch seems no to apply
00:45 < mnemoc> ??
00:46 < owl> thx mnemoc , hi jsaw
00:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: we use 500 too, btw
00:48 < mnemoc> :)
00:49 < mnemoc> brb
00:49 < jsaw> or did somebody change login.defs since then...?
00:52 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15112 /trunk/package/security/openhbci2/openhbci2.conf:
00:52 < CIA-7> * libdir != *lib fixes (build and openhbci2-config)
00:52 < CIA-7> (compare r15110, r15111)
00:57 < Baldzius> ok i give up
00:57 < Baldzius> libshadow.la sais libdir is /usr/lib
00:57 < Baldzius> but libshadow.so is in /lib
00:57 < jsaw> *g*
00:59 < Baldzius> so authlib-courier fails on linking when it can't find libshadow.so in /usr/lib
00:59 < Baldzius> g* courier-authlib
00:59 < jsaw> my /usr/lib64/libshadow.la says libdir='/usr/lib64'
00:59 < jsaw> as it should... hmm
00:59 < jsaw> related to my libtool-hackery I guess
01:00 < Baldzius> and now i remember that someone proposed me to use var_append LDFLAGS ' ' "-L$root/lib"
01:01 < Baldzius> and i did that
01:01 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15113 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/minimal_uid.patch:
01:01 < CIA-7> * fix patch to actually apply
01:01 < CIA-7> * change comment a bit
01:02 < jsaw> .oO(I hope it wasn't me, but I could have well proposed this,... before I started to dig into the depth of my shiny new amd64...)
01:03 < Baldzius> so what you propose for now, leave as it is or what?
01:05 < jsaw> should be fixed, but seems not to do harm currently
01:05 < jsaw> however, for example /usr/lib64/courier-authlib/libauthcustom.la contains:
01:05 < jsaw> dependency_libs=' -L/lib ...
01:05 < jsaw> which is definitely wrong
01:06 < jsaw> Baldzius: so, leave it as it is
01:07 < jsaw> for now
01:07 < Baldzius> 'k
01:15 < jsaw> Baldzius: does php build for you?
01:18 < mnemoc> re
01:19 < jsaw> mnemoc: r15113
01:19 < Baldzius> jsaw: yes
01:19 < Baldzius> what libmhash version you have?
01:19 < jsaw> it fails detecting libjpeg
01:19 < Baldzius> oh
01:20 < Baldzius> i guess it's *64 related
01:20 < jsaw> yeah:
01:20 < jsaw> for i in $PHP_JPEG_DIR /usr/local /usr; do
01:20 < jsaw> test -f $i/lib/libjpeg.$SHLIB_SUFFIX_NAME -o -f $i/lib/libjpeg.a && GD_JPEG_DIR=$i && break
01:20 < jsaw> done
01:21 < mnemoc> :)
01:21 < jsaw> wtf
01:21 < mnemoc> for j in lib lib64 :)
01:22 < mnemoc> jsaw: /etc/login.defs:233:UID_MIN 1000
01:22 < jsaw> for i in $PHP_PNG_DIR /usr/local /usr; do
01:22 < jsaw> test -f $i/lib/libpng.$SHLIB_SUFFIX_NAME -o -f $i/lib/libpng.a && GD_PNG_DIR=$i && break
01:22 < jsaw> done
01:22 < jsaw> mnemoc: O.O
01:23 < jsaw> package/base/shadow/login.defs
01:23 < jsaw> UID_MIN 500
01:24 < mnemoc> uhm
01:24 < mnemoc> # stat package/base/shadow/login.defs
01:24 < mnemoc> stat: cannot stat `package/base/shadow/login.defs': No such file or directory
01:25 < jsaw> ???
01:25 < mnemoc> 2.1
01:25 < jsaw> oh
01:25 < mnemoc> svn log ../t2-trunk/package/base/shadow/login.defs
01:25 < mnemoc> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
01:25 < mnemoc> r13194 | rene | 2005-11-06 20:00:59 -0300 (Sun, 06 Nov 2005) | 5 lines
01:25 < mnemoc> * further fixed latest shadow (junk) by supplying a full login.defs
01:25 < mnemoc> (taken from Fedora Core) because the default one contains options
01:25 < mnemoc> that are no longer vailed when built with PAM support
01:25 < mnemoc> * allow a blank password by default
01:25 < mnemoc> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
01:25 < mnemoc> taken from Fedora Core
01:26 < jsaw> oh, r13194 is after 2.1 branching...?
01:26 < mnemoc> of course
01:26 < mnemoc> 2005-11-06
01:27 < jsaw> rni
01:27 < jsaw> (revision number inflation)
01:27 < mnemoc> :)
01:27 < jsaw> hmmm. I don't want to fix php
01:27 < jsaw> echo O php >> config/default/pkgsel
01:27 < Baldzius> :)
01:28 < jsaw> wc -l config/default/pkgsel
01:28 < jsaw> 65 config/default/pkgsel
01:28 < jsaw> hmmm, 2 X, 63 O
01:28 < jsaw> now
01:29 < Baldzius> mine is a bit smaller
01:29 < Baldzius> ~40
01:31 < Baldzius> /me in bed, gn8
01:31 < jsaw> cu Baldzius
01:32 < morfoh> gn8 Baldzius
01:33 < mnemoc> mine has 0 lines
01:33 < mnemoc> gn8 Baldzius
01:33 < jsaw> mnemoc: it is a generic build here...
01:33 < mnemoc> :)
01:34 < mnemoc> an azazel + a few checks here :)
01:38 < jsaw> azazel ?
01:39 < mnemoc> a desktop focused mnemosyne extension
01:40 < mnemoc> http://svn.exactcode.de/mnemosyne/azazel/trunk
01:40 < morfoh> http://www.t2-project.org/platforms/sparc.html
01:41 < jsaw> don't like to have something called azazel
01:41 < mnemoc> :p
01:41 < morfoh> jsaw: :)
01:43 < mnemoc> azazel is just a poor angel which was damn due to teaching the arts of war, cosmetics and seduction to men
01:43 < morfoh> mnemoc: that's not a name that's simply noise :)
01:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: but I guess it sounds quite funny after some beer :)
01:44 < mnemoc> o_O
01:46 < morfoh> hopefully someone will ever translate the site content to other languages ...
01:47 < jsaw> hopefully someone will ever correct the typos on this site
01:48 < jsaw> rxr: http://www.t2-project.org/platforms/sparc.html, it's "Siemens" not "Siemensa"
01:48 < morfoh> jsaw: I'm already migrating content and I'll try to correct some, but you're welcome for proof reading ;)
01:48 * jsaw hides
01:48 < jsaw> morfoh: where?
01:48 < morfoh> jsaw: btw, Siemensa was already corrected
01:48 < jsaw> :)
01:49 < morfoh> jsaw: but for the unpatient -> http://t2.ixplanet.de/portal ;)
01:50 < jsaw> morfoh: I have the first comment... :p
01:50 < morfoh> jsaw: go ahead :)
01:50 < jsaw> We want to hammer "SDE" into the brains. So "or Distribution Build Kit... term" should go into brackets or footnote.
01:51 < mnemoc> is footnote possible on this CMS?
01:52 < morfoh> mnemoc: dunno but it is possible with ReST
01:52 < jsaw> "custom distributions" is also a bit fishy, should ask a native speaker
01:52 < morfoh> we should also add a glossary
01:53 < jsaw> "Currently ", <- I think, there's a comma after it
01:53 < mnemoc> tailored operative systems :)
01:53 < jsaw> :)
01:54 < jsaw> I meant the plural of distributions
01:54 < mnemoc> let me ask
01:56 < mnemoc> jsaw: native speakers said 'yes'
01:58 < jsaw> good
01:58 < jsaw> morfoh: remove "," after "Quickstart Guide"
01:59 < jsaw> Remove "Thanks for using T2!"
01:59 < mnemoc> Enjoy T2!
01:59 < jsaw> yep
02:00 < morfoh> jsaw: sth. else "chefs" ? :p
02:01 < jsaw> morfoh: http://theochem.weizmann.ac.il/~comartin/schoenfeld.html
02:02 < jsaw> morfoh: yep, "comma" etal, see here ---^
02:02 < jsaw> Like "About T2" page
02:02 < jsaw> "With T2 you can define targets for various purposes, ranging from ..."
02:02 < jsaw> first the disclaimer:
02:03 * jsaw is no english expert
02:03 < morfoh> jsaw: thanks for the link, but did I wrote that ?
02:03 < jsaw> no, but you're copying it, so you can correct it :p
02:04 < jsaw> iirc no comma after puposes
02:04 < jsaw> Second paragraph http://t2.ixplanet.de/portal/about/t2,
02:04 < jsaw> first sentence
02:04 < jsaw> to be build
02:04 < jsaw> morfoh: gimme write access once the main porting is done...
02:05 < mnemoc> i think it's better "give jsaw access now, and worry about look&feel" :)
02:06 < morfoh> jsaw: yeah that was my plan, 1st. doing the main porting, after that we can discuss and correct the errors... thanks for the hints ;)
02:07 < jsaw> ok php builds
02:07 < jsaw> mnemoc: :p
02:07 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15114 /trunk/package/develop/php/php.conf:
02:07 < CIA-7> * UGLY HACK ALERT:
02:07 < CIA-7> $libdir != *lib fixes by sed'ing the configure script
02:07 < CIA-7> (I don't see a siple way to do this with a patch right
02:07 < CIA-7> now)
02:09 < mnemoc> jsaw: grep build var/adm/flist/php please
02:09 < jsaw> what should I see?
02:10 < jsaw> some files (as I do)?
02:10 < mnemoc> what path?
02:10 < jsaw> usr/lib64/php/build
02:10 < mnemoc> uhm, nice... what php version is that?
02:10 < jsaw> 5.0.5
02:10 < mnemoc> great
02:10 < jsaw> o.O
02:11 < mnemoc> it was usr/lib/build the last time i tried
02:11 < jsaw> so, the sed also fixes that... uhuhuhu *magic*
02:11 < mnemoc> injecting the 'php/' part?
02:11 * jsaw is waiting for to be beaten by rxr for using sed to fix a configure script
02:12 < morfoh> jsaw: sometimes you have to be a men :p
02:12 < jsaw> mnemoc:
02:12 < mnemoc> plural?
02:12 < jsaw> sed -i "s,lib/lib,${libdir##*/}/lib,g" configure
02:12 < jsaw> for i in PHP_LDAP PHP_LDAP_SASL; do
02:12 < jsaw> sed -i "s,$i/lib,$i/${libdir##*/}," configure
02:12 < jsaw> done
02:13 < jsaw> evil, I know, but It Works (TM)
02:13 < mnemoc> :)
02:13 < jsaw> mnemoc, he may call us jsaws
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02:15 < mnemoc> o_O
02:15 -!- jsaws is now known as jsaw
02:16 < jsaw> ok ok
02:16 < mnemoc> fusion?
02:16 < jsaw> no, new title
02:16 < mnemoc> :)
02:16 -!- jsaw is now known as King_JSaw
02:16 < mnemoc> Dr.J
02:16 -!- King_JSaw is now known as jsaw
02:16 * mnemoc can change his nick because he gets penalised
02:16 < mnemoc> can't*
02:17 < jsaw> ouhm
02:19 < mnemoc> #idlerpg
02:20 < jsaw> ic
02:32 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15115 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdc1394/ (X11-path.patch example-clock-def.patch libdc1394.desc):
02:32 < CIA-7> * fix for X11 directory (not X11R6 anymore)
02:32 < CIA-7> * fix for $libdir != *lib
02:36 < CIA-7> amery * r15116 /trunk/package/office/ooo/hotfix_always_unpack_crystal.patch: * fixed ooo (kde-less) to always unpack crystal icons because cws-iconswitching1.diff needs that
02:37 < jsaw> poor mnemoc fighting compilation of ooo
02:38 < mnemoc> i love to find bug after 7h building the package :\
02:41 < mnemoc> if ooo build fine this time, next step will be mdbtools+ooo and then another try to ooo/java14
02:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: poor guy ... that hurts
02:43 < mnemoc> 2.0.1.1 doesn't save on non-M$ formats :p ... that hurts
02:43 < mnemoc> err
02:43 < mnemoc> 2.0.0.1 i mean
02:43 < morfoh> why ?
02:44 < mnemoc> it doesn't know the formats :p
02:44 < morfoh> mnemoc: you disabled them ?
02:44 < mnemoc> nope, bug
02:44 < mnemoc> bug supposed to be fixed on 2.0.1
02:45 < morfoh> strange bug ...
02:45 < morfoh> :p
02:45 < mnemoc> funny bug :)
02:46 < morfoh> yeah ;)
02:46 < mnemoc> but a bug i have to fix asap on 2.1 branch
02:51 < mnemoc> it will be building for a while... gn8 :)
02:51 < morfoh> gn8 mnemoc ... sleep well
02:51 < morfoh> :)
02:52 < morfoh> will going to sleep too
02:53 < mnemoc> gn8 morfoh, jsaw
02:54 < jsaw> gn8 mnemoc
02:55 < jsaw> off soon, too
02:55 < morfoh> gn8 jsaw
03:02 < jsaw> gn8
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08:42 < LMJ> good morning the chan
08:43 < misl> morning all
08:46 < rxr> moin misl and LMJ
08:46 < LMJ> how are you today ?
08:50 < rxr> mostly fine, thansk
09:01 < LMJ> good ;)
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09:32 < Bart-> hi
09:33 < Bart-> anyone is alive here?
09:39 < LMJ> yep
09:40 < rxr> heh
09:40 < rxr> moin Bart-
09:41 < rxr> so - my macosd does not support ARGB visuals ...
09:41 < rxr> valentin: if you want to test the latest macosd trunk with a compositing X on your iBook ...
09:41 < Bart-> rxr, still having problems with emerging packages
09:41 < rxr> on my x86-64 the graphic engine runs
09:43 < Bart-> rxr, I configured it using, Configure, selected glib and emerged - still same shit - /bin, /lib, /usr/include and missing file - nothing changed
09:44 < Bart-> how can I install *anything* in this so called distribution?
09:47 < valentin> moin
09:47 < valentin> rxr: trunk version in t2 yet ?
09:49 < rxr> valentin: nope
09:49 < rxr> macosd trunk
09:49 < rxr> you need a compositing X ,-)
09:51 < rxr> valentin: but you do not use macosd, do you ?
10:00 < valentin> rxr: normaly not
10:00 < valentin> though i think it is a nice program...
10:02 < rxr> it now tries to allocate a ARGB visual and does not pseudo screenshot in the case available
10:02 < rxr> works here
10:02 < rxr> even 60fps on my software rendered X86-54 ...
10:02 < rxr> x86-64
10:03 < rxr> on your iBook, when you use X11R7 you should even get EXA hardware acceleration
10:03 < rxr> my Radeon chip is just a bit too new for render acceleration and though DRI could work on my class of chips, they have not yet cracked the mobility version register tweakery ...
10:03 < rxr> but I can live with that for nwo
10:04 < valentin> i do not have a macosd trunk checkout yet - why don't you just update the t2 package so i can emerge ?
10:12 < rxr> because I would know that it works then when I update it ..
10:12 < rxr> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/macosd/turnk macosd-trunk
10:12 < rxr> ./configure ; make
10:19 < Bart-> I appreciate you ignorance, this is what I need in the 8-th day of fighting with T2
10:20 < rxr> Bart-: we all have work to do as well
10:20 < rxr> Bart-: what was your problem?
10:20 < rxr> ah
10:20 < Bart-> Bart- rxr, I configured it using, Configure, selected glib and emerged - still same shit - /bin, /lib, /usr/include and missing file - nothing changed
10:21 < rxr> Bart-: those package have not been selected then
10:21 < rxr> Bart-: what did you select? minimal ?
10:21 < rxr> you use T2 without it's specifications
10:21 < rxr> when you force to emerge an unselected package it's config is invalid
10:22 < rxr> and yes I plan to add a safeguard for this in the next days
10:22 < Bart-> but I did as you told me 2 days ago
10:22 < rxr> Bart-: why do you emerge at all?
10:22 < rxr> Bart-: select what you want in the Config
10:23 < rxr> and then Build-Target it
10:23 < rxr> all will be fine
10:23 < Bart-> if you ask me, I would prefer a piece of brief overview which has higher edicational value than any nymber of limitations to make system idiot proof
10:23 < rxr> Bart-: we told you serveral times that you must not emerge packages that are not selected
10:24 < rxr> Bart-: when you do this those package t2 configuration is invalid as in undefined and you get this prefix="" and thus files in /
10:24 < Bart-> rxr, oops, I just wanted to add glib to "minimal-xorg" - without writing a target. Will it work that way?
10:24 < rxr> it is as easy as that
10:24 < rxr> Bart-: run ./scripts/config
10:24 < rxr> Config even
10:24 < rxr> enable the expert section
10:24 < Bart-> done already
10:24 < rxr> go to custom package selection
10:24 < rxr> enable it
10:24 < rxr> add the rule
10:24 < rxr> X glib
10:24 < Bart-> I got X glib there
10:24 < rxr> and it will be in your target package set
10:25 < Bart-> so I need to build targetm not ro Emerge-Pkg.. glib ?
10:25 < Bart-> s/ro/to/
10:25 < rxr> when glib is selected Emerging it does work as well
10:26 < rxr> what does this return:
10:26 < rxr> grep GNOME2 config/default/config
10:26 < rxr> ?
10:26 < Bart-> export SDECFG_PKG_GNOME2_CORE_PREFIX='opt/gnome2'
10:26 < rxr> that is where glib should go then
10:26 < rxr> this looks og
10:26 < Bart-> memerging that selected glib breaks it
10:27 < rxr> did you emerge into your running system that already had glib in /
10:27 < rxr> ?
10:27 < Bart-> nope, I did mine -rf to clean it out of packages that were not in target
10:28 < Bart-> then selected "X glib" and "Emerge-Pkg -cfg system -deps=none glib" and this failed
10:29 < rxr> what does grep GNOME2 config/system/config
10:29 < rxr> return ?
10:29 < valentin> bin/PBB.cc: In member function `bool PBBInterface::Init()':
10:29 < valentin> bin/PBB.cc:47: error: invalid conversion from `const char*' to `int'
10:29 < valentin> /usr/include/pbbipc.h:50: error: too many arguments to function `int ipc_init(int, int)'
10:29 < valentin> maybe i am out of date ?
10:29 < rxr> hm
10:29 < rxr> Emerge pbbuttonsd ?
10:30 < Bart-> rxr, nothing
10:30 < Bart-> hey, maybe thic cofig is set for wrong target?
10:30 < rxr> Bart-: then you run Config on the config name "default" but you emerged with the config "system"
10:30 < rxr> then for your Emerge with the "system" config glib is not activated ...
10:31 < Bart-> rxr, ok, I'll try to move my config and try again
10:31 < rxr> move?
10:31 < rxr> better run Config -cfg system in the first place
10:32 < Bart-> ok
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10:34 < Bart-> me /away for an hour or /so
10:36 < owl> moin
10:39 < rxr> moin owl
10:41 < owl> hi rxr . how are you?
10:43 < rxr> good thanks - and you ?
10:45 < owl> caught a cold, but except that: good. thx ;)
10:57 < CIA-7> rene * r15117 /trunk/package/editors/geany/ (. geany.cache geany.desc):
10:57 < CIA-7> LMJ :
10:57 < CIA-7> * added geany (0.5) - Geany is a text editor
10:57 < LMJ> thanks rene ;)
10:58 < rxr> LMJ: no problem - see comments for the list about modificatoins I have done ,-)
10:58 < LMJ> btw, how you build .cache ? what's the way to find dependencies
10:59 < LMJ> yes, i will check, i certainly make n00b works
10:59 < rxr> cp /var/adm/cache/geany package/editor/geany/
10:59 < rxr> cp /var/adm/cache/geany package/editor/geany/geany.cache
10:59 < rxr> ,-)
11:00 < rxr> dependecies are auto generated by files utilized during the build
11:00 < rxr> only optional ones can be marked in the future
11:00 < rxr> and runtime deps specified
11:00 < LMJ> ha good
11:00 < rxr> but we have not that fine tuning yet
11:00 < rxr> we only care about build-time deps right now (mostly)
11:00 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15118 /trunk/package/ (gnome2/gnomemeeting/ multimedia/ekiga/):
11:00 < CIA-7> * gnomemeeting has been rename to ekiga
11:00 < CIA-7> -> rename directory
11:00 < CIA-7> -> move to multimedia
11:00 < LMJ> i through you did that with your little hands ;)
11:00 < rxr> though that is changing ..
11:00 < CIA-7> (it is gnome, but not explicitly stated by the devs)
11:01 < rxr> jsaw: ,-) moin
11:02 < rxr> jsaw: best keep the gnomemeeting name in the .desc or so so misc/archive/Find.sh has a possibility to find it ,-)
11:02 < rxr> maybe you did already - did not look - just an idea
11:02 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15119 /trunk/package/multimedia/ekiga/ (6 files):
11:02 < CIA-7> * gnomemeeting has be renamed to ekiga
11:02 < CIA-7> second step, rename files
11:02 < LMJ> [P] X ----5---9 110.000
11:03 < LMJ> how you definy this
11:03 < LMJ> i put 110 for fun
11:04 < jsaw> g'morning
11:05 < jsaw> rxr: yep, "(formerly know as GnomeMeeting)"
11:05 < LMJ> Good meeting jsaw ;)
11:06 < LMJ> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc there is one more [T] ;)
11:07 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15120 /trunk/package/multimedia/ekiga/ (ekiga.conf ekiga.desc openldap23.patch):
11:07 < CIA-7> * fix entries after rename of package (formerly gnomemeeting)
11:07 < CIA-7> * update to current version (1.99.0)
11:08 < CIA-7> * copyright updates
11:08 < CIA-7> NOT-YET-TESTED
11:08 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15121 /trunk/package/develop/pwlib/ (const_correctnes.patch pldap.patch pwlib.desc): * update pwlib (1.8.7-mimas2 -> 1.9.2)
11:08 < CIA-7> rene * r15122 /trunk/package/editors/geany/geany.desc: * fixed geany.desc T lines that got mangled during merge
11:08 < rxr> LMJ: this number is the linear build priority
11:09 < rxr> it must be hardcoded so all dependencies are build before
11:09 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15123 /trunk/package/network/openh323/openh323.desc: * update openh323 (1.15.6-mimas2 -> 1.17.3)
11:09 < rxr> we can fix this at the next failing reference build if the number is too low to have gtk+ available
11:09 < LMJ> should be not the case
11:09 < rxr> LMJ: in the future this static linear priority will be gone
11:09 < LMJ> but it's an info, i put over 100
11:09 < LMJ> what wil manager priorities of compilation ?
11:10 < LMJ> resolving dependencies process ?
11:10 < rxr> and we will have a scheduler that does dynamic scheduling ito parallel slots according to dependencies, right valentin ?
11:10 < LMJ> hummm ;)
11:10 < rxr> this historic static linear priority from ROCK 0.1 sucks ... ,-)
11:11 * rxr back soon
11:11 < LMJ> it wil consider the whole group of packages to download, and find the order to compile them
11:11 < LMJ> ok ;)
11:24 < valentin> bin/PBBEvas.cc: In member function `virtual void PBBEvas::Main(PBBInterface*, bool)':
11:24 < valentin> bin/PBBEvas.cc:579: error: `Evas_Button_Flags' undeclared (first use this function)
11:24 < valentin> bin/PBBEvas.cc:579: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.)
11:24 < valentin> bin/PBBEvas.cc:579: error: expected `;' before "flags"
11:24 < valentin> more stuff seems to be outdated here...
11:30 < rxr> re
11:30 < rxr> valentin: Emerge evas ? ;-)
11:30 < rxr> your system looks really old
11:31 < rxr> this code even was in the last macosd release version ...
11:32 < valentin> indeed, about half a year old ;)
11:53 < Bart-> nop
12:05 < jsaw> bye bye, cu late(r)
12:25 < Bart-> rxr, this time glib is installed in proper place. Do I need to select every required by eg. xchat package to build xchat?
12:28 < rxr> in theory yet, in practice not all have config options
12:29 < Bart-> not sure what you mean Y[ ]/N[ ] ?
12:37 < Bart-> well, installing files like INSTALL is not clever since they are useless
12:39 < Bart-> but you probably have no control over installed files, do you? automation sucks sometimes ;[
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12:59 < valentin> wtf: /usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu/3.4.3/include/altivec.h:36:2: #error Use the "-maltivec" flag to enable PowerPC AltiVec support
12:59 * valentin has G3
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13:02 < rxr> what did you build ?
13:06 < Bart-> rxr, something is wrong with gtk+ postinstall scripts
13:07 < Bart-> rxr, /etc/postinstall.d/gdkpixbuf: /etc/postinstall.d/gdkpixbuf: line 18: /etc/usr/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders: No such file or directory
13:07 < Bart-> rxr, gdk-pixbuf.loaders sit in /etc/gtk-2.0, not in /etc/usr/gtk-2.0
13:08 < Bart-> second script is even worse
13:15 < Bart-> can I disable some packages required by xchat package but I know that xchat can be buil without them (like zope, wxpython, pil)?
13:21 < Bart-> rxr, tk require xmkmf (for what?) but: checking xmkmf ... Error: No such package.
13:30 < mnemoc> python makes us detect stupid dependencies
13:30 < mnemoc> jsaw: thanks for ekiga
13:42 < valentin> rxr:evas
13:43 < valentin> rxr: i do not have time to investigate that stuff any further atm, maybe i'll take a look tonight
13:46 < CIA-7> amery * r15124 /trunk/package/office/ooo/hotfix_always_unpack_crystal.patch: * fixed ooo's unpack_crystal patch to actually apply
13:48 < Bart-> oh f*ck, tck and tk are rare craps
13:48 < Bart-> insufiicient patching, broken sonames, missing headers, hey guys, you don't habe tcl/tk in your distribution!
13:50 < mnemoc> we have the headers we need, and the patches we needs, to run the things until now we need
13:51 < mnemoc> if something is missing for your needs, please be specific
13:53 < misl> I just emerged tcl from trunk and tclsh does work
13:55 < Bart-> it is broken by default since tcl guys made Makefiles for 3 or more systems
13:56 < misl> If broken why does it build and run on my system.
13:56 < Bart-> and hey really don't care that some extensions will not build
13:57 < mnemoc> what extensions are missing? be specific, not just troll
13:58 < mnemoc> what *useful* extensions are missing, i mean
13:59 < Bart-> mnemoc, must look in cvs logs first since I stopped using Tcl half a year ago, if you wait...
13:59 < mnemoc> but what are _you_ missing for your concrete needs of tcl/tk
14:00 < mnemoc> add extensiopn for the fun of having a bloated packages doesn't make any sense here
14:01 < mnemoc> adding patches for the fun of making it harder to maintain neithr
14:03 < Bart-> http://svn.turox.org/www/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/distro/tcl84/
14:03 < Bart-> http://svn.turox.org/www/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/distro/tk84/
14:03 < Bart-> they *are* hard to mainain
14:04 < Bart-> headers are added from *spec files
14:04 < mnemoc> i'm not asking that
14:04 < mnemoc> i asked what specific headers are you missing, and why
14:05 < mnemoc> pointing to what another distribution do to solve a problem you haven't yet defined is useless
14:08 < Bart-> mnemoc, I know Tcl well enough to know how to fix it. You miss, in tk: tclUnixPort.h (important one) tclRegexp.h tkIntDecls.h tkUnixDefault.h
14:08 < mnemoc> what package needs those headers?
14:09 < mnemoc> at least none we have
14:09 < mnemoc> rephrasing...
14:09 < Bart-> mnemoc, do you want me to start rebuilding my RPMs to see what packages? O_O
14:09 < mnemoc> what package are you trying to add that fail due to the lack of those specific headers
14:09 < Bart-> but I wonder how you have built graphiz without these headers
14:10 < mnemoc> because they are non really needed?
14:10 < Bart-> roftl, they are really needed, you'll see
14:12 < rxr> re
14:14 < Bart-> and you could also remove useless manpages: usr/share/man/man3/TCL_MEM_DEBUG.3 require building --with-memory-debug (whis is a usefull feature for Tcl-C programmes), usr/share/man/mann/dde.n is windoze-only file
14:15 < rxr> Bart-: patches are welcome on t2@t2-project.org
14:15 < mnemoc> you are welcome to send the `svn diff` to fix those issues
14:15 < rxr> moin mnemoc
14:16 < mnemoc> moin rxr
14:17 < Bart-> rxr, I don't know yor patching-policy, where can I read about? patches will be ready if i stick with T2 (because I need them to use Tcl/Tk)
14:18 < Bart-> not all but at leas a half of
14:19 < rxr> policy is to patch as minimal as possible ...
14:19 * rxr off to me - cu then
14:19 < Bart-> ok found archives, will look how people submit
14:20 < sepp> moin
14:21 < misl> hi sepp
14:21 < sepp> hi misl
14:21 < mnemoc> Bart-: patches at the list are patches from new contributors, after a couple of month they get write access
14:22 < mnemoc> Bart-: when they probe to have understood the not written policies
14:22 < Bart-> a couple of months? ;] maybe I'll understand basics to this time ;]
14:22 < mnemoc> yep :)
14:23 < mnemoc> we have lot of commiters, but very few reverts because people understand the 'less intrusive as possible' rule when fixing or adding packages
14:24 < mnemoc> Bart-: you may want to subscribe to t2-svn list, to see what people commit
14:25 < mnemoc> rxr: btw, yesterday we noticed the login.defs you injected from fedora to trunk changed the default T2 minimal UID, from 1000 to 500.
14:26 < Bart-> mnemoc, there is no such thing like minimal patching in tcl/tk but holepully most patches fix Makefiles, not code
14:27 < mnemoc> there is always a minimal
14:27 < mnemoc> bigger than others maybe, but there is always a minimal
14:29 < Bart-> you can always choose between minimal patched tcl/tk and high quality tcl/tk ;] above URLs point to the latter one ;]
14:32 < mnemoc> as i said, it has the quality needed to build and run without troubles any current tcl/tk based package currently at t2
14:32 < rxr> hm - or not
14:32 < rxr> rehi
14:32 < mnemoc> if you add a new package, which needs the extra patching, patch is welcome
14:33 < mnemoc> rxr: samples?
14:33 < Bart-> mnemoc, as you said - you tolerate broken packages, I don't because I use it
14:34 < Bart-> nevermind, I don't even know yet if I like T2 -> EOT
14:34 < rxr> we do not tolerate broken packages
14:35 < mnemoc> pointing to the broken package, and hopefully to the fix, is something concrete. do it
14:37 < Bart-> not before I convince myself that T2 is worth it
14:47 < Bart-> can I somehow disable kde-junk while building Python? It says that: bdb33 gdbm python bluez-libs kdebindings are required
14:47 < rxr> Bart-: -deps=none and paste thereafter which of those you want to build
14:48 < Bart-> sound nice, /me gone to test
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14:54 < karasz> hello
14:54 < Bart-> hi karasz
14:55 < karasz> hi Bart-
14:55 < mnemoc> Bart-: what was your runit problem?
14:56 < Bart-> mnemoc, stupid ;] depends on udev's template, vc/[1-6] were present or not
14:57 < Bart-> patched gettys to use tty[1-6] instead and works
14:57 < karasz> buenos dias senor mnemoc :)
14:58 < mnemoc> buen día karasz
15:01 < mnemoc> Bart-: can you send a patch for runit (at trunk) to use tty?
15:03 < Bart-> patched files manually but I can make a diff
15:03 < mnemoc> thanks
15:03 < Bart-> before I kick off agetty out of my disk
15:03 < mnemoc> what will you use instead?
15:03 < Bart-> mingetty with --autologin bart
15:03 < mnemoc> :)
15:06 < Bart-> !> File "/t2-trunk/src.python.system.20060129.145742.24040.maszyna/Python-2.4.2/Lib/distutils/util.py", ..
15:06 < Bart-> !> import pwd
15:06 < Bart-> !> ImportError: No module named pwd
15:06 < Bart-> something's wrong with python, pwd is a stadard module
15:06 < mnemoc> paralelism problem maybe
15:07 < Bart-> ?
15:07 < Bart-> parawhat?
15:07 < mnemoc> add [F] NOPARALLEL to python.desc and try again
15:12 < Bart-> mnemoc, you are talking about a patch fixing runit sources? I can't see any problem-related files in trunk
15:13 < mnemoc> Bart-: those run scripts are generated by runit.conf iirc
15:13 < Bart-> python failed again
15:13 < mnemoc> uhm
15:13 < Bart-> for the same reason
15:14 < mnemoc> i don't understand why are you having such odd problems during your build
15:14 < Bart-> yes, vs/* stuff is in *.conf
15:15 < mnemoc> please change it and svn diff from t2-root
15:18 < Bart-> for about 4-5 hours because I'm going out ;]
15:19 < mnemoc> Bart-: np
15:35 < Bart-> actually it is ready but I'll try to build runit later with it
15:35 < Bart-> but python is not ready yet ;[
15:37 < Bart-> me\ off for a few hours
15:41 < CIA-7> amery * r15125 /branches/2.1-test/package/java/kaffe/ (6 files):
15:41 < CIA-7> * merged 14135,14849 from trunk: updated kaffe (1.1.6 -> 1.1.7-rc1), and updated copyright notes.
15:41 < CIA-7> * merged 14849 from trunk: changed kaffe to use system zlib, and enabled fastjar and jvmpi
15:41 < CIA-7> * merged 14900 from trunk: fixed kaffe to build with alsa-lib 1.0.10
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15:50 < morfoh> hi
15:50 < misl> hi morfoh
15:51 < morfoh> hi misl
15:51 < mnemoc> wb morfoh
15:51 < morfoh> thx mnemoc
15:52 < karasz> zdraslutye kommrad, hello minto
15:53 < morfoh> hi tovorish karasz
15:58 < CIA-7> amery * r15126 /branches/2.1-test/package/java/eclipse/ (eclipse.conf eclipse.desc):
15:58 < CIA-7> * merged 14136 from trunk: marked eclipse as KAFFE-aware
15:58 < CIA-7> * merged 15091 from trunk: added a $PATH friendly `eclipse`
15:58 < CIA-7> * merged 15074 from trunk: updated eclipse (3.1.1 -> 3.1.2)
16:00 < misl> mnemoc: I have a reference build running. Is it safe to start buiding a single package on that same config?
16:00 < misl> 1649 builds total, 173 completed fine, 3 with errors.
16:01 < mnemoc> misl: you will damage TOOLCHAIN/logs/build_target.log
16:01 < misl> is it just the log?
16:01 < mnemoc> just the log
16:02 < misl> so it is safe :)
16:02 < mnemoc> :)
16:02 < misl> I will keep the ref64 running and start building kaffe too
16:02 < mnemoc> be carefull of not building the same package twice at the same time
16:03 < mnemoc> ccache can get corrupted
16:04 < misl> strange kaffe is not in config/ref64/packages
16:05 < misl> root@noisy:/mnt/space/t2/2.1-test# grep kaffe config/ref64/packages
16:05 < misl> X -----5---- 600.000 kde kaffeine 0.7 / extra/multimedia extra/desktop/kde 0
16:05 < mnemoc> misl: change .desc to support your arch
16:05 < misl> ack
16:06 < mnemoc> and then wait for your current Build-Target to trigger Config -oldconfig
16:06 < mnemoc> or wait for a long package, or abort
16:06 < mnemoc> Config -oldconfig is self-destructive on concurrent runs
16:07 < misl> does my arch get excluded with:
16:07 < misl> [R] - x86-64 powerpc64
16:07 < misl> I only need to remove it from this line?
16:08 < mnemoc> that means, for all except x86-64 powerpc64
16:09 < rxr> misl: with the version on trunk kaffe built now on x86-64 but did not work properly
16:09 < rxr> e.g. most if not all executions will inf. lop
16:09 < rxr> loop
16:09 < misl> rxr: I will try building it in 2.1-test
16:09 < rxr> at least the first invocation in the eclipse build did
16:10 < mnemoc> rxr: but apache ant?
16:10 < rxr> hmß
16:10 < rxr> ? even
16:10 < mnemoc> did apache-ant build?
16:10 < rxr> think so
16:10 < mnemoc> bdb-java?
16:10 < rxr> no ideas
16:10 < mnemoc> eclipse is very evil during it's build
16:12 < mnemoc> and worse on buld time
16:12 < misl> updated kaffe is building now :)
16:13 < jsaw> re
16:14 < jsaw> mnemoc: but ekiga does not build yet, have to fix opal now...
16:15 < mnemoc> jsaw: trick for renamed, svn mv the files first, and then svn mv --force the dir. rename in one commit :)
16:15 < mnemoc> s/renamed/rename/
16:15 < jsaw> yeah, right...
16:16 < mnemoc> but thanks anyway :)
16:19 < jsaw> welcome
16:25 < mnemoc> dumb question, a pci ata133 card plug to a box which only support ata100.... will give '133' to the discs plugged to it?
16:27 < CIA-7> jsaw * r15127 /trunk/package/multimedia/ekiga/ekiga.desc:
16:27 < CIA-7> * add opal (Open Phone Abstraction Layer 2.1.2) needed to compile ekiga
16:27 < CIA-7> (if somebody finds another package that uses it, we could
16:27 < CIA-7> split this off, however, there's another opal project on
16:27 < CIA-7> sf - open physics abstraction layer...)
16:28 < mnemoc> :)
16:28 < jsaw> mnemoc: isn't it also limited by the hosts PCI speed?
16:28 < mnemoc> uh.. yes
16:29 < jsaw> if you have 66MHz I assume, it should work
16:30 < jsaw> r15127 does not build on 64bit, but the error looks like it should build on non-64bit hardware
16:34 < mnemoc> after my current build finishes, i can try ekiga at 2.1-test/P4
16:34 < misl> :( kaffe has to wait its turn, due to xorg dependancies
16:35 < mnemoc> ??
16:36 < mnemoc> can't you build a x-less kaffe?
16:36 < rxr> so - /me booting into my most beloved prof. OS to obtain some more usb i/o dumps ...
16:36 < rxr> cu
16:40 < jsaw> o.O
16:41 < mnemoc> avision pain i guess
16:56 < rxr> re
16:56 < rxr> nope USB2Xchange pain
16:56 < rxr> Adaptec
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16:56 < rxr> but also starting with a ...
16:56 * rxr really wonders what the heck is up with this tiny thing of a hardware
16:57 < rxr> btw. this proffesional OS, which I find such a pleassure to use every thine, now has the nice feature to not react on user input during the 1st minute after logging in at least when booted ...
16:57 < rxr> strange ...
17:05 < rxr> so - at least this one seems to be bit corrected
17:05 < rxr> -ed
17:05 < rxr> 178d6532fce3d048f774f073559039ee download/mirror/u/usb2xchange.fw
17:05 < rxr> 178d6532fce3d048f774f073559039ee /lib/firmware/usb2xchange.fw
17:05 < rxr> double checked and reextracted ....
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17:11 < CIA-7> amery * r15128 /branches/2.1-test/package/gnome2/gdm/minimal_uid.patch: * merged 15094,15095 from trunk: fixed GDM to only show UID>=500 when browsing accounts
17:15 < karasz> cu guys
17:17 < mnemoc> cu karasz
17:26 < jsaw> mnemoc: there are some more libs missing for ekiga, but later...
17:26 < jsaw> cu later
17:34 < rxr> cu jsaw
17:37 * mnemoc burning a new azazel for the laptop...
17:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: :)
17:38 < mnemoc> i hope this time openoffice save non-m$ formats :)
17:38 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! why do you think it should "allow" it this time ? did you backported the patch ?
17:39 < mnemoc> i updated to 2.0.1.1
17:39 < mnemoc> from 2.0.0.1
17:40 < morfoh> ic
17:40 * rxr just cross cread usb mass storage spec ...
17:53 < misl> Error logs from ref64-2.1-test-x86-64-generic:
17:53 < misl> [1] base/linux26 [1] base/linux24
17:53 < misl> [5] base/linux24
17:53 < misl> 1650 builds total, 213 completed fine, 3 with errors.
18:02 < mnemoc> ok, time to reboot and install
18:02 < mnemoc> misl: what module?
18:26 < misl> mnemoc: ???
18:27 < rxr> misl: what failed in linux* ...
18:28 < misl> dunno, I already threw away the src.*
18:28 < misl> but it will be recreated tomorrow :)
18:30 < rxr> misl: build/.../var/adm/log*
18:41 * rxr away
18:41 < rxr> cu
18:47 < Bart-> r
18:49 < misl> :( too late, noisy is down
19:01 < Bart-> me\ switching to t2
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19:06 < mnemoc> re
19:06 < morfoh> wb mnemoc
19:06 < mnemoc> i have plenty of people at home :\
19:07 < mnemoc> misl: what module is breaking linux{24,26}?
19:07 < morfoh> mnemoc: oh! what happened ? do you celebrate a party ? :)
19:09 < mnemoc> rafaella's birthday party
19:09 < morfoh> :)
19:17 < CIA-7> amery * r15129 /branches/2.1-test/package/office/ooo/ (6 files):
19:17 < CIA-7> * merged 14530,14548,14951,14952,15116,15124 from trunk: updated ooo (2.0.0.1 -> 2.0.1.1)
19:17 < CIA-7> * merged 13292 from trunk: explicitly disable gnome-vfs for ooo when gnome-vfs is not installed
19:17 < CIA-7> * merged 14095 from trunk: disabled mono support on ooo, temporarily
19:17 < CIA-7> * merged 15090 from trunk: fixed ooo to build fine with ooo_lang=ALL
19:20 < misl> mnemoc: congratulation
19:20 < misl> mnemoc: have to wait for tomorrow to find out what's borked
19:20 < mnemoc> :)
19:27 < LMJ> moin
19:27 < morfoh> moin LMJ
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19:31 < Bart-> re?
19:32 < Bart-> mnemoc, python package did not like chroot ;[
19:33 < mnemoc> i just finished building a minimal with python at trunk:HEAD flawless
19:34 < Bart-> well, mine fistf build also was clean (except issue with minimal sh)
19:34 < Bart-> mnemoc, what am I supposed to do with this patch: www.smlw.pl/~wytnijto/t2/patches/tty_gettys.patch ?
19:35 < mnemoc> Bart-: send it to the ML please
19:35 < Bart-> which one?
19:35 < mnemoc> t2@t2-project.org
19:36 < mnemoc> all others are read-only
19:36 < Bart-> subscibing is required as I suppose?
19:37 < mnemoc> recommended but not required
19:38 < Bart-> maybe later, I'm on T2 currently
19:38 < Bart-> I have only mrxvt, pewkm and xchat here ;]
19:38 < Bart-> and bugs ;]
19:40 < mnemoc> o_O
19:41 < mnemoc> Bart-: try to make your own target instead of emerging stuff over a running one
19:41 < Bart-> mrxvt lacks desktop file and fontconfig should have (IMO) more complete configuration with /usr/X11/lib/fonts included and postinstall script to run fc-cache
19:41 < mnemoc> # grep -rn fc-cache /etc/postinstall.d/
19:41 < mnemoc> /etc/postinstall.d/xorg:26:if [ "`which fc-cache`" ] ; then
19:41 < mnemoc> /etc/postinstall.d/xorg:27: echo "Running fc-cache ..."
19:41 < mnemoc> /etc/postinstall.d/xorg:28: fc-cache -v --system-only
19:42 < Bart-> oops
19:42 < Bart-> fontconfig was actually installed after xorg
19:42 < Bart-> or maybe not, I'm not sure
19:43 < Bart-> but xchat died because of no fonts ;[
19:44 < mnemoc> uhm
19:44 < mnemoc> try azazel :p
19:44 < mnemoc> but it's xfce-based
19:44 < Bart-> -bash: azazel: command not found
19:45 < mnemoc> azazel is my desktop target
19:45 < Bart-> what is xfce-based?
19:45 < mnemoc> the target
19:45 < mnemoc> 'distribution'
19:46 < Bart-> your target as I suppose, mine probably not ;]
19:46 < Bart-> mnemoc, what is wrong with emerging stuff over a running one?
19:47 < mnemoc> Bart-: emerge is too greedy when emerging dependencies too me
19:47 < Bart-> and?
19:47 < mnemoc> Bart-: and emerging make non re-distributable systems
19:48 < Bart-> mnemoc, I just want to check if is is worth time spent on setting up
19:48 < Bart-> I'll write a target when I understand basics
19:49 < Bart-> and add some packages to see if it works better than it looks
19:51 < Bart-> basically I can rm -rf it in any moment ;]
19:51 < mnemoc> ok
19:52 < Bart-> me\ back to emerging stuff over a running one ;]
19:53 < mnemoc> :)
19:57 * LMJ is going to jump from the 6th floor
19:57 < mnemoc> o_O
19:58 < mnemoc> why that?
20:10 < LMJ> sorry
20:11 < LMJ> docbook-utils is just crap
20:11 < LMJ> sorry to say that
20:12 < LMJ> since i could not install it properly on t2, i wanted to make the looser, and switch to my syster Fedora Core 4 linux, and install those tools for my homeworks
20:12 < LMJ> i just got a bunch of errors, resolving dependencies during hours and say : ERROR
20:12 < LMJ> that's crazy
20:20 < mnemoc> :(
20:21 < Bart-> yeah, pretty usefull bunch of craps
20:22 < rxr> re
20:22 < LMJ> really Bart- ?
20:22 < Bart-> I even resolved depencies and they work but print huuuge warning while processing docs
20:23 < LMJ> damned
20:24 < Bart-> so I got used to this warning in order to workaround this issue ;]
20:25 < LMJ> i'm doomed
20:25 < Bart-> LMJ, what's wrong with them?
20:26 < LMJ> docbook-utils (-tools) fail
20:26 < rxr> mnemoc: oh congratulations ,-)
20:27 < Bart-> tools are the last one installed, if you can read *.spec files I can give you URL to working stuff
20:27 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
20:27 < LMJ> hummmm, i don't know .spec
20:27 < Bart-> to read, not to move to T2 ;]
20:27 < LMJ> what so much hate
20:28 < Bart-> but there provide at least requirements and hacks to install them in proper places
20:28 < misl> aop is nice technology :)
20:28 < Bart-> s/them/srap-utils/
20:28 < Bart-> s/s/c/ ;]
20:29 < rxr> misl: aop ?
20:31 < misl> aspect oriented programming
20:32 < misl> I use AspectJ (for java) but there is something for c++ too
20:32 < misl> http://www.aspectc.org/
20:33 < misl> gotta go, cu all tomorrow
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20:42 < Bart-> mnemoc, guess what ;]
20:42 < Bart-> S: 451 qq write error or disk full (#4.3.0)
20:42 < Bart-> t2@t2-project.org: 250 ok^M
20:42 < mnemoc> doh
21:06 < rxr> n8 all
21:38 < LMJ> good night rxr
22:28 < Bart-> me\ off, cu -
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