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00:00 < rxr> mnemoc: no graphic on the screen yet ...
00:02 * mnemoc moving home..... aaarg... 34°C :\
00:02 < rxr> mnemoc: oh
00:02 < rxr> -2?C here ...
00:02 < rxr> outside at least ...
00:02 < rxr> hm - X starts, drive finds the chip, but screen stays black
00:02 * rxr will have fun debugging ,-)
00:04 < mnemoc> tomorrow triple elections, and i'm in charge of one 'desktop' :(
00:05 < rxr> ?
00:05 < rxr> triple elections what? what desktop?
00:10 < mnemoc> president, senator, and uhm.... 'diputado'.. one 'commons chambe'-like
00:11 < mnemoc> table, whereever people goes to vote
00:11 < mnemoc> chamber*
00:11 < mnemoc> ok, i'm going... cu ,-)
00:13 < rxr> mnemoc: have fun
00:13 < rxr> mnemoc: and greating to your family
00:15 < rxr> /* try to cause modules to load now, to reserve fb mem for other drivers */
00:15 < rxr> pGeode->cimFd = open("/dev/cimarron",O_RDONLY);
00:15 < rxr> if( pGeode->cimFd < 0 )
00:15 < rxr> pGeode->cimFd = open("/dev/cim",O_RDONLY);
00:15 < rxr> ^- I do not like this f*cked up AMD crap
00:16 < rxr> why the hell do they want their only vide device crap ..
00:16 < rxr> my oh my
00:16 < rxr> commercial companies ...
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00:20 < rxr> cool - now it showed some graphic on the screen
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00:20 < rxr> x checkboard pattern and moving mouse cursor
00:28 < rxr> ok - kde comes up as well ,-)
00:29 < rxr> not that bleeding fast - but way faster than the vesa driver ;-)=
00:38 < rxr> == 12/11/05 00:36:12 =[9]=> Finished building package cowsay.
00:38 < rxr> ^- /me shocked - we have such packages ? :-(
00:50 < rxr> X-Video Extension version 2.2
00:50 < rxr> screen #0 Adaptor #0: "Advanced Micro Devices"
00:50 < rxr> cool
00:51 < rxr> just no mplayer / xine on the archivista box filesystem I used to rsync onto the extenral USB disk ...
00:51 < rxr> (first T2 derived CD I had that boots from external drives withotu a fluff ...(
00:51 < rxr> ) even
01:03 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 rene users 1095548 Dec 11 01:01 nsc-amd-geode-lx-R1.patch
01:03 < rxr> oops
01:04 < rxr> http://ec-outpost.dyndns.org/nsc-amd-geode-lx-R1.patch
01:04 < rxr> in the case someone needs it
01:04 < rxr> works in 1024x768 and 1280x1024 @ 24bbp with XAA acceleration for me
01:05 < rxr> however starting xine let's X crash
01:05 < rxr> I work on the Xv stuff when I have too much spare time
01:05 < rxr> so far this is good enough
01:05 < rxr> expecially for tonight
01:05 < rxr> n8 all
01:24 < mnemoc> re
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03:05 < TheBeast> hello
03:05 < TheBeast> I've just downloaded/burned t2 2.1.0 :)
03:06 < TheBeast> I was just wondering why isn't kopete bundled with kde :)
03:06 < TheBeast> I've checked the package list on the official website and it seems that kopete isn't listed
03:08 < TheBeast> whatever
03:08 < TheBeast> brb
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06:11 < kristian> moin
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08:35 < Xenos> moin, kristian
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09:51 < misl> morning all
10:29 < rxr> re
10:35 < rxr> moin misl
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13:12 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
13:12 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005]
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13:23 < rxr_> 2infrun.c:2642: internal-error: insert_step_resume_breakpoint_at_sal: Assertion `step_resume_breakpoint == NULL' failed.
13:23 < rxr_> A problem internal to GDB has been detected,
13:23 < rxr_> further debugging may prove unreliable.
13:23 < rxr_> Quit this debugging session? (y or n) how I like those high quality GDB code pieces ..
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13:51 < rxr> cool - with some X calls commented out xvideo works in my patched nsc driver ,-)
13:52 < rxr> hm - interestingly enough the xvtest program does not work on my radeon equiped workstation ...
13:52 < rxr> empty window ...
13:52 < rxr> strange
13:53 < rxr> ok - let's test xine / mplayer on the geode ,-)
13:53 < rxr> and then I'll do some real work stuff instead of this polishing of features I do not need immediatly ...
13:56 < rxr> wow!
13:56 < rxr> works
13:56 < rxr> and playing a DVB-T mpeg2 dump on the tiny box only gives 66% cpu load!!!
13:56 < rxr> and that with a -ggdb -O0 driver for debugging ...
13:59 < rxr> what means mpeg2 on this 500Mhz Geode box plays smoother than on a 800Mhz G3 iBook
15:29 < valentin> hi
15:29 < valentin> rxr: is that good for amd or bad for freescale ?
15:38 < rxr> both
15:39 < rxr> though most probably the mpeg2 lib has more x86 assembly and the G3 no vector engine ...
15:41 < rxr> valentin: and - how is your day ?
15:45 < rxr> /we lunch the next seconds
15:46 < CIA-8> rene * r13849 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/wine.desc: * updated wine (0.9.2 -> 0.9.3)
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16:11 < misl> hi folks
16:11 < rxr> hi misl
16:11 < misl> hi rxr
16:12 * misl in the woods again :)
16:13 < rxr> in your land house ?
16:13 < rxr> country or so even ,-)
16:14 < misl> yepp
16:14 < rxr> oh - now internet over there ?
16:15 < CIA-8> rene * r13850 /trunk/package/kde/amarok/amarok.desc: * updated amarok (1.3.5 -> 1.3.7)
16:15 < misl> Internet already since over a week
16:15 < misl> I just have to clean up the cabling.
16:15 < rxr> oh - what kind? cable, dsl, ... ?
16:15 < misl> :)
16:15 < misl> cable
16:16 < misl> for dsl I need a phone line.
16:16 < misl> I wanted to do without the phone and maybe use some kind of voip.
16:17 < rxr> ah, nice
16:17 < misl> phone subscription without dsl is already more expensive than my current cable subscription :)
16:18 < misl> btw: has Morfoh left us :(
16:19 < rxr> misl: no idea - I can not get a lock on him
16:21 < misl> He wanted some kind of T2 meeting in my summerhouse. Dunno if he still wants to. Or if anyone else is interested?
16:23 < rxr> sure - would be a nice alternation - but I think not the next days - more likely 2006, no ?
16:23 < misl> I was thinking of early 2006.
16:24 < rxr> yep - that sounds reasonable ,-)
16:24 < misl> But some work should be done as well. So we first have to come up with an action list.
16:24 < CIA-8> rene * r13851 /trunk/package/network/aoetools/aoetools.desc: * updated aoetools (7 -> 8)
16:25 < misl> Do we want it to be just a weekend or a full week?
16:25 < misl> I also need to know how many people are intended to come.
16:28 < rxr> depends on time the people have ... guess valentin none as usual, I some days,, ... - maybe just a weekend then
16:32 < misl> ack, would that be just you then? And maybe morfoh if we can get in contact with him.
16:33 < rxr> nah - valentin needs a break then as well - maybe kersin and janna enjoy the forest -)
16:33 < rxr> susan could come as well - maybe juergen and maybe we find morfoh again ,-)
16:33 < misl> Would juergen come alone, or would he bring his family too?
16:35 < misl> jsaw: are you around?
16:41 < rxr> misl: I would wait after the x-mas celebration to collect accurate data ,-)
16:41 < misl> :) ack, I was just wondering
17:01 < valentin> re
17:02 < valentin> summerhouse where ? in netherlands ?
17:16 < rxr> yep
17:22 < CIA-8> rene * r13852 /trunk/package/e17/efsd/: * removed e17/efsd, removed from upstream CVS as well
17:28 < valentin> very far travel from berlin
17:33 < misl> valentin: don't be a pooper ;-) just say yes :)
17:33 < misl> it not that far.
17:36 < valentin> where in the netherlands ?
17:38 < rxr> east of amsterdam
17:47 < CIA-8> rene * r13853 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (184 files in 184 dirs): * updated gnome2 .cache files from latest reference build
18:02 < rxr> so, finally got the bill for the ebay sgi octane cpu and board
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18:02 < rxr> let's hope it arrives next week and solves my stability issue
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18:08 < misl> valentin, rxr: by train
18:08 < misl> http://www.ns.nl/servlet/Satellite?referrer=plannerplus2stap_stap1&cid=1071147988062&pagename=www.ns.nl%2FPlanner%2Fplannerplus2stap&action=js2&p=1071147988062&lang=nl
18:08 < valentin> misl: following that link i get an empty form :(
18:09 < misl> yuck, dutch train planner says approx. 6 hours from berlin zoo to Meppel
18:10 < valentin> well, berlin to arnhem takes about the same time
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18:13 < misl> valentin: If you know a bit about dutch topology this link might help.
18:13 < misl> http://www.zoekplaats.nl/zoekplaats/cgi/waar.pl?actie=plaats&zoek=meppel
18:14 < valentin> nice
18:15 < karasz> moin all
18:18 < misl> This one is by car.
18:18 < misl> http://www.routenet.nl/maps/map_172_22_2_9_1508_6587498_4322016.gif
18:21 < valentin> The page cannot be found
18:21 < valentin> The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
18:22 < valentin> blablabal
18:22 < valentin> Technical Information (for support personnel)
18:22 < valentin> Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title search for the words HTTP and 404.
18:22 < valentin> Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common Administrative Tasks, and About Custom Error Messages.
18:22 < valentin> if we travel with 5.5 ppl from berlin, car would be cheaper perhaps
18:28 < rxr> most probably
18:29 < valentin> esp. because deutsche bahn dropped mitfahrerrabbat
18:29 < rxr> and increments the price every few months ...
18:30 < rxr> soon only the richest people will travel by train to show how much money they have ... *g*
18:36 < CIA-8> rene * r13854 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg:
18:36 < CIA-8> * removed obsolete directory dependency tracking code long
18:36 < CIA-8> commented out
18:38 < karasz> same here, if you wanna travel car is the cheapest though petrol prices are very high...
18:38 < valentin> if you are lucky, travel by plane is the cheapest
18:38 < karasz> which is kinda strange considering that we produce about 80% of our oil...
18:39 < karasz> plane is out of question here, by far is the most expensive travel mean
18:40 * valentin has to cook some noodles with seashell sauce :)
18:40 < karasz> it is about 3-400 euro from my town to the capital
18:41 < karasz> and you don't want to travel with those plains ;)
18:43 < CIA-8> rene * r13855 /trunk/package/ (56 files in 56 dirs): * removed dpkg from all cache files, as the new dpkg/parse-config takes care of
18:44 < CIA-8> rene * r13856 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/parse-config:
18:44 < CIA-8> * fixed dpkg to mark install-info not to add a dependency to other
18:44 < CIA-8> packages via flistrfilter
18:44 < rxr> so - even less crappy dependencies ...
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18:56 < ojh> TheBeast: Hi
18:56 < TheBeast> hello
18:56 < TheBeast> how is it going?
18:57 < rxr> quite fine ,-)
18:57 < TheBeast> oh
18:57 < TheBeast> I was just wondering
18:58 < rxr> why wondering?
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18:58 < TheBeast> last night I've downloaded T2's iso images and I saw kde 3.4.2 is included blah blah. are there any updates?!
18:58 < TheBeast> is it possible to update the packages or I'll have to recompile from source?
18:58 < rxr> depends what tree ...
18:58 < rxr> on development trunk we have 3.5
18:59 < rxr> in 2.1-stable I think we have updated to 3.4.3 or so ...
18:59 < TheBeast> those are stable isos :)
18:59 < ojh> TheBeast: I remember you saying that an application you wanted was not in the repo. You should take a look at some of the existing .desc files in the tree. Its fairly easy to write one that will conpile the program you want. And don't to forget to contribute it back. :-)
18:59 < TheBeast> ojh it's ok about compiling/contributing with the app, I just can't understand how this package manager works :)
19:00 < TheBeast> rxr suppose I install the stable trunk right now, is it possible to upgrade to development after that?
19:02 < ojh> TheBeast: I learned by looking at the desc files. I have contribuated severl packages. It really is quite easy for any package that uses './configure; make; make install'
19:03 < TheBeast> so, is it possible to upgrade from 2.1.0 to devel?!
19:03 < rxr> TheBeast: yes, with some more knowledge about t2 it is easy to build some or more bits from the trunk into a stable system
19:03 < TheBeast> okay
19:03 < rxr> but I would encourage you to get a bit more known with t2 'till you try this
19:05 < rxr> in theory you can jsut Emerge-Pkg -repository kde or just Emerge-Pkg kdebase or so from the trunk - however in practice this will be a bit much thus you could like to cut some dependencies here and there and then it is usually better to know some details to get it still built
19:06 < TheBeast> so
19:06 < TheBeast> I'll do some custom install of t2 right now
19:07 < TheBeast> I'll do the minimalistic install
19:07 < TheBeast> I wonder why I've downloaded both isos then :)
19:07 < ojh> TheBeast: I remember someone writing a tutorial on adding packages - I just don't remember the download URL. :-P
19:08 < ojh> Anyone know where that is?
19:11 < ojh> UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19:13 < TheBeast> forget about that
19:13 < ojh> I filely have the scanning code done to find all the .desktop files in the system but the "Categories" tag is used so inconsistantly that its almost useless!!!! Mostly KDE - GRRRRR.
19:14 < TheBeast> I need to buy a digital camera
19:15 < TheBeast> sheesh
19:15 < TheBeast> mine broke
19:18 < CIA-8> rene * r13857 /trunk/package/editors/mined/mined.conf: * fixed mined to actually compile
19:18 < CIA-8> rene * r13858 /trunk/package/editors/mined/mined.desc: * updated mined (2000.10 -> 2000.11) and fixed the version encoding
19:19 < rxr> 4171 builds total, 3511 completed fine, 206 with errors.
19:19 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-reference:
19:21 < ojh> I have a thought. The metadata in the T2 repository system is much more consistant then what I am finding in the .desktop files them selves, so I wander if a script to add the missing "Categories" data from the T2 package system would be workable.
19:21 < rxr> ,-)
19:22 < rxr> the category in the .desc? or what are you looking at?
19:22 < rxr> I already found our own category too incosistent, so ...
19:23 < ojh> rxr: Yes, at least that way I don't have a massive "Uncatagorized" catagory. . .
19:23 < ojh> rxr: Too bad the FD.O Menu specification seems so abused . . .
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19:29 < rxr> well - for all the massively combined kde packages you would not have a concrete entry then
19:30 < ojh> OTOH, I may just use a .desktop->AppDir script and use AppDir wrapers for my actual menu system. Then the structure can be defined using symlinks (like the menu specification should have been in the first place). It would also be trivial to merge a system wide menu tree and local tree in te GUI.
19:30 < rxr> e.g. kdebase holds koqueror, kate, kwrite or whatever ... all in one package that only as one category in t2
19:47 < ojh> Vaer interesting and cool FUSE plugin: http://metafs.sourceforge.net/
19:51 < ojh> But I will need to upgrade FUSE to play with it . . . :-/
19:56 < ojh> Hummmmmmm . . . . This could be just the tool needed to deal with thoes misbehaved .desktop files :-D Imiaging being able to query all the names/descriptions, etc in the .desktop files when location a program. You could define a program catagory as a stored Query!
20:06 < ojh> But wait, a program launcher may be completely unnecesary! Finding and launching programs could just be a set of stored queries in an uber-search-finder-on-steroids tool.
20:11 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/67239
20:12 < rxr> ^- what the heck? this uber mega super high tech os is able to open pop-ups and download ad-ware by playing back music files ????
20:12 < rxr> good that we do not deploy this el-cheapo wanna-be os anywhere ..
20:12 < rxr> my oh my ...
20:14 < ojh> rxr: For thoes who don't speak/read german :-) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fnewsticker%2Fmeldung%2F67239&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&c2coff=1&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
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20:26 < rxr> ouhm - 98.0% i/o wait ..
20:26 < rxr> I should profile and tune my system ...
20:26 < rxr> during waiting for: # svn commit */*/*.cache
20:26 < rxr> maybe noatime and notail would help ,-)
20:28 < LMJ> good evening guys
20:28 < LMJ> <-- SerWou here
20:35 < rxr> hi serwou
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20:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
20:35 < LMJ> how are you rxr ?
20:35 < rxr> good thanks, and you ?
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20:45 < LMJ> fine fine
20:45 < LMJ> prety cold here
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20:52 < MisterN> hi
20:53 < ojh> Question: How come http://t2-project.org/packages/fuse.html does not show a 'postlinux.conf' file for FUSE in Trunk?
20:56 < CIA-8> rene * r13859 /trunk/package/ (1841 files in 1841 dirs): * .cache files from the actual reference build
20:57 < rxr> hi MisterN
20:57 < rxr> ojh: how long ago was that file added ?
20:57 < rxr> hm
20:57 < rxr> ah - on trunk we have no postlinux.conf on fuse anymore
20:57 < rxr> we use the in kernel version
20:58 < ojh> rxr: I'm just going by the page: 'Last modified: 2005-12-03 06:05 Copyright © 2004, 2005'
20:58 < rxr> I hope you like r13859 ,-)
20:58 < ojh> rxr: IC - so FUSE 2.4 is part of the main Kernel tree now?
21:02 < CIA-8> rene * r13860 /trunk/package/develop/ (ccache/parse-config distcc/parse-config):
21:02 < CIA-8> * fixed distcc and ccache so that utilization does not leave
21:02 < CIA-8> dependencies in packages beeing build
21:02 < rxr> yes some fuse - which version exactly I do not know off hand
21:02 < ojh> rxr: If it is now bundeled with the standard Kernel that would be GREAT then FUSE can be expected on any new Linux distro releases!
21:03 < rxr> yep
21:04 < ojh> rxr: Greate news for higher level integration of FUSE based FSes. :-D
21:05 < ojh> rxr: Metadata/Search functioality to put Spotlight and WinFS to shame - here we come! SWEET! :-D
21:06 < rxr> ojh: don't you rather want inotify for search engines? what do you need the user-space fs for that ?
21:07 < ojh> rxr: Perhaps, its not clear if the MetaFS for FUSE uses inotify to update its indexes or not . . .
21:08 < rxr> usually you want to use inotify for index update
21:08 < rxr> I think the meta fs is more questionable - or if rather a normal application / daemon is used to process / display the info ...
21:08 < rxr>

Build time (on reference hardware): 8.00% (relative to binutils)

21:08 < rxr> ^- new package matrix html code with the relative build time .cache files ...
21:08 < rxr> any objections ?
21:10 < rxr> Error logs from reference-2.2.0-alpha-x86-pentium-mmx-reference:
21:10 < rxr> 4171 builds total, 3527 completed fine, 205 with errors.
21:11 < rxr> my athlon now needs way over a week for a full reference build ...
21:11 < ojh> rxr: But I love the idea of access to the meta-search using nothing more then standard file system reads and writes - MetaFS is designed to be completely usable with nothing more then creating a text file with the query and then desending inside of meta directories under the query file. Perfectly usable from the prompt.
21:11 < rxr> time to hand this load the the dual-core Powermac with 1.5GB of RAM ,-)
21:11 < rxr> (and SATA harddrive)
21:12 < ojh> rxr: But I agree to be truy usable it needs to live upate as the files change.
21:12 < rxr> ojh: ah - yes, class utility access would be nice
21:12 < rxr> have you looked into reiser4 meta stuff ?
21:13 < rxr> btw. another moster .cache commit running
21:15 < ojh> rxr: Yes. But I think the FUSE approch is promising becuse it does not force a specific FS implamentation and if something breaks your files do not become corrupted.
21:17 < ojh> rxr: And the Linux install I did install on Rieser did become corrupt after time. :-/
21:18 < rxr> reiser v3 never had any issue on my side
21:18 < rxr> and I push the FS on many boxes over usual limits ...
21:19 < ojh> rxr: Its on an old HDD, could be a hardware issue too.
21:25 < rxr> hehe
21:27 < CIA-8> rene * r13861 /trunk/package/ (1451 files in 1451 dirs):
21:27 < CIA-8> * removed ccache from the dependencies in all .cache files - as latest
21:27 < CIA-8> ccache/parse-config would ensure as well
21:31 < rxr> http://t2-project.org/packages/libmpeg3.html
21:31 < rxr> ^- new relative cpu time needed ,-)
21:32 < rxr> http://t2-project.org/packages/bash.html
21:32 < rxr> ^- bash needs nearly as long as binutils it seems ,-)
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21:53 < rxr> cu - /we in the pub
22:37 < MisterN> n8
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23:45 < rxr> n8 all
23:46 < ojh> rxr: G'night.
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