--- Log opened Wed Nov 30 00:00:03 2005 00:00 < mnemoc> we want to start stabilizing 2.2 soon, so we have to finish the toolset :) 00:01 < _Ragnar_> k 00:01 < _Ragnar_> good luck :) 00:02 < _Ragnar_> do we have kde3.5 already? 00:02 < mnemoc> good luck to you ,-) i have enough fun on 2.1 :) 00:02 < mnemoc> not sure if an rc or final, but kde 3.5-something at least 00:03 < mnemoc> http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGGL%2CGGGL%3A2005-09%2CGGGL%3Aen&q=site%3Acom.ar+keinek&btnG=Search <--- google magic 00:12 < valentin> mnemoc: is that our keinek ? 00:12 < valentin> cu tomorow 00:14 < mnemoc> yeah, he is :) 00:14 < mnemoc> and i pasted it on the wrong channel :p 00:16 < madtux> mnemoc, yeah right... 00:17 -!- sparc-kly|Univ [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 00:18 < CIA-11> amery * r13669 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (1.0.7 -> 1.5) 00:27 < CIA-11> amery * r13670 /trunk/package/mail/thunderbird/thunderbird.desc: * updated thunderbird (1.0.7 -> 1.5rc1) 00:56 -!- sparc-kly|Univ [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:22 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 01:35 < mnemoc> hi demian 01:36 * demian is fighting with svn wevdav dirs overlapping :s 01:48 -!- deathwarrior [n=deathwar@dsl-201-128-73-190.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #t2 01:48 -!- deathwarrior [n=deathwar@dsl-201-128-73-190.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has left #t2 ["http://deathwarrior.nipl.net"] 02:06 < demian> solved. bye 02:06 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has left #t2 [] 03:24 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 03:24 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:28 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:29 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 03:49 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:15 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178169191.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 04:15 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 04:15 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005] 04:15 [Users #t2] 04:15 [ _Ragnar_] [ karasz] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly ] [ Xenos] 04:15 [ CIA-11 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 04:15 [ jsaw ] [ mtr ] [ SerWou] [ valentin ] 04:15 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 04:15 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 04:15 -!- [freenode-info] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, to services (NickServ, etc.), and to registered users who have unblocked them. Please see the freenode website for more information: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 04:15 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 21 secs 04:21 < CIA-11> amery * r13671 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/sysfsutils/sysfsutils.conf: * changed sysfsutils to install a compatiblity symlink for libsysfs.so to make libtool happy 04:24 < CIA-11> amery * r13672 /branches/2.1/package/filesystem/sysfsutils/sysfsutils.desc: * merged 12925 from trunk: added FPICK-QUIRK to sysfsutils, needed for x86-64 04:33 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF8ADD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:35 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:37 -!- ojh [n=omer@65-102-127-155.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 04:46 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF8C91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:54 -!- madtux [n=mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #t2 04:54 < madtux> re 04:57 -!- madtux [n=mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit [Client Quit] 05:03 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.89] has joined #t2 05:03 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.31] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:05 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 05:16 < CIA-11> amery * r13673 /trunk/scripts/functions.in: * improved autoextract to use autoextract_tar_bz2 as fallback when no custextract is set. (instead of hardcoded valid extensions) 05:31 < CIA-11> amery * r13674 /trunk/scripts/Build-Target: * changed Build-Target to use echo_status instead of plain echo for "Unmounting loop devices" 05:33 < mnemoc> gn8 * 05:34 < _Ragnar_> gn8 05:44 -!- ojh [n=omer@65-102-127-155.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 06:21 -!- owl [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:25 -!- owl [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has joined #t2 07:03 < rxr> re 07:18 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 07:33 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Excess Flood] 07:43 < mipe> http://85.157.36.170:7000/regressions/desktop/regressions.html 07:46 < rxr> ,-) 07:48 < mipe> hddtemp is not found on any mirrors? 07:51 < rxr> hm 07:54 < mipe> so what do you think about valgrind on 2.1 for x64? upgrade to 3.x.y releases or disable it, i think i have seen patches for it to get support on 2.x.y releases but it was over few megs IIRC 07:55 < rxr> I would update it - but wait for mnemoc for a word ,-) 07:55 < rxr> valgrind does not really define a ABI or so for the distribution - 3.x is very nice for x86-64 and powerpc ... I would not go the pain to maintain a rotting backport - after all we are not debian ,-9 08:24 -!- tilix [n=ilia@82.103.74.69] has joined #t2 08:24 -!- tilix [n=ilia@82.103.74.69] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:26 -!- owl_ [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has joined #t2 08:26 -!- owl [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:35 -!- mipe_ [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 08:46 -!- owl [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has joined #t2 08:48 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:05 -!- owl_ [n=owl@62.4.80.218] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:06 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.177.235] has joined #t2 09:11 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 09:26 -!- mipe_ [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:35 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 09:35 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:48 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 09:48 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:51 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:53 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 10:02 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 10:02 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:02 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:07 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 10:25 < mipe> hmm 10:26 < CIA-11> mika * r13675 /branches/2.1/package/base/mtools/mtools.conf: 10:26 < CIA-11> * merge r11483 "fix mtools to later linux-header" 10:26 < CIA-11> * from trunk to 2.1-branch 10:39 < mipe> rxr: so you want me to commit all patches to trunk and later merge it to 2.1-branch? 10:44 < mipe> softdog and synaptics fixed for 2.1 10:56 < rxr> mipe: yes - everything should go trunk 10:56 < rxr> only if the relevant package version or code sniplet is only present in 2.1 a direct commit is necessary .. 10:58 < mipe> hmm, so someone needs to test them on trunk also. i only have 2.1 builds in process atm 11:02 < CIA-11> mika * r13676 /trunk/package/base/softdog/softdog.conf: 11:02 < CIA-11> * fix softdog for latest linux-header 11:02 < CIA-11> * by defining _LINUX_LIST_H 11:04 < CIA-11> mika * r13677 /branches/2.1/package/base/softdog/softdog.conf: 11:04 < CIA-11> * merged r13676 "softdog fix for latest linux-header" 11:04 < CIA-11> * from trunk to 2.1-branch 11:07 < CIA-11> mika * r13678 /trunk/package/x11/synaptics/amd64-libdir.patch: 11:07 < CIA-11> * fixed synaptics libdir for x86-64 11:07 < CIA-11> * to find X extensions lib 11:09 < CIA-11> mika * r13679 /branches/2.1/package/x11/synaptics/amd64-libdir.patch: 11:09 < CIA-11> * merged r13678 "synaptics x86-64 libdir fix" 11:09 < CIA-11> * from trunk to 2.1-branch 11:29 < mipe> aarg 11:32 < CIA-11> mika * r13680 /branches/2.1/package/develop/pwlib/pwlib.conf: 11:32 < CIA-11> * merged r10888 "custom extract for pwlib" 11:32 < CIA-11> * from trunk into 2.1-branch 11:36 * Xenos is back (gone 12:36:35) 11:39 < owl> moin 11:43 < Xenos> moin, owl 11:43 * Xenos Date/Time is now [ Wed Nov 30 13:42:39 ] 11:43 < Xenos> gg :> 11:47 < owl> hi Xenos 11:47 < owl> nah, it's sigh-time 11:47 < owl> *sitting at customers place* 11:48 < Xenos> %) 11:50 < owl> hm? 12:36 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 12:36 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:39 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:41 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 12:54 < karasz> re moin 12:54 < karasz> i just got back 12:54 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:55 < rxr> moin karasz 12:55 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 12:56 < karasz> hello rxr 12:56 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:56 < karasz> how are you? 12:59 < rxr> fine, thanks - and you ? 13:00 < karasz> hmm, pretty good i guess 13:00 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 13:02 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.177.235] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:04 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["work"] 13:06 < rxr> karasz: nice ,-) 13:07 < karasz> i am waiting for my T2 machine :( 13:07 < karasz> the blue guy put me on hold till december 15 13:09 < rxr> ouhm 13:16 * rxr shortly away 13:35 -!- sparc-kly[WORK] [n=labc216@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:47 -!- sparc-kly[WORK] [n=labc216@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 14:05 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #t2 14:19 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has joined #t2 14:48 < mnemoc> rxr: do you kill me if i 'svn mv package/www/{mozilla,seamonkey}' ? 14:49 < mnemoc> mipe: {pwlib,openh323} hack is no longer needed 14:49 < mnemoc> mipe: i changed autoextract to simply use autoextract_tar_bz2 as fallback 14:50 < mipe> mnemoc: ah ok, thats much better :) 14:51 < mnemoc> i just wanted to wait for objections before merging that to 2.1 14:51 < mnemoc> r13673 14:51 < Xenos> gigi 14:51 < Xenos> sylpheed ownz 14:51 < Xenos> much more better than thunderbird.. 14:52 * Xenos switched to sylpheed 14:52 < Xenos> :> 14:52 < mipe> mnemoc: could you roll back the merges if needed? i have to go soon... 14:53 < mipe> mnemoc: and whats your verdict on valgrind? 14:53 < mipe> mnemoc: upgrade to 3 series or disable it for x64? 14:56 < mnemoc> mipe: if valgrind change doesn't affect anything but valgrind, and the update on a running machine is safe. do it. 14:58 < rxr> re 14:58 < mnemoc> wb rxr 14:58 < mipe> ok, have to look into it more tomorrow. have to go now... 14:59 -!- mipe [n=mipe@k170.ip2.netikka.fi] has quit ["work"] 14:59 < rxr> mnemoc: I'll kill -9 you svn mv mozilla into seamonkey ... 15:00 < mnemoc> rxr: #mozilla people say they continued their work after an administrative change on the newly named branch, and that the other is abandoned. 15:01 < karasz> hello mnemoc 15:01 < mnemoc> rxr: comments about r13673? 15:01 < mnemoc> hi karasz 15:05 < rxr> mnemoc: hm - would need to take a deeper look 15:05 < rxr> mnemoc: do you need an answer now ? 15:05 < rxr> so much is on my TODO ... 15:05 < rxr> if you think you change is good I trust you right now ... 15:05 < rxr> btw - I'm typing from a 500MHz AMD Geode LX 800 ... booted from a external USB disk ... 15:06 < mnemoc> :) 15:06 < rxr> model name : Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS 15:06 < rxr> cpu MHz : 498.158 15:06 < rxr> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD 15:06 < mnemoc> :) 15:06 < rxr> guess I feed some lunch into me now ... 15:06 < sparc-kly> AMD GEODE ? 15:06 < mnemoc> $x$ 15:07 < rxr> sparc-kly: yep - those low power cores AMD brought from Nation Semiconductor or so ... 15:07 < sparc-kly> he AMD Geode(TM) LX 800@0.9W processor* delivers the most performance per watt in the industry today, <-- good 15:07 < sparc-kly> consuming maximum power of 2.4W (TDP) and 1.6W typical at 500 MHz. :) 15:08 < rxr> mnemoc: I'll improve our early userspace these days to boot automagically from USB CD-ROMS (livecd) and USB hardisk alike (including sticks) (normal installs) 15:08 < rxr> currently it needs some manual teaks :-( 15:09 < rxr> sparc-kly: yep - a t2 powered project is based on those (archivista box-tiny) 15:09 < rxr> mnemoc: has mr. archivista contacted you or got stuck in "to much todo" to come back to you ? 15:10 < mnemoc> null reply 15:10 < rxr> ouhm 15:10 < rxr> feared that 15:11 < mnemoc> but i'll push him more by the end on dec when my contract here finish 15:11 < rxr> ok 15:15 < rxr> mnemoc: have you read that some reseach s.th. group called me yesterday interviewing about t2 - looks like we'll get into some review they write for some EU people including bigger companies and financiel institudes ... 15:17 < mnemoc> :o 15:20 * rxr forcing a reconnect - cu 15:31 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178130113.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 15:31 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-) 15:31 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005] 15:31 [Users #t2] 15:31 [ _Ragnar_] [ karasz] [ owl ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin] 15:31 [ CIA-11 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly ] [ Xenos ] 15:31 [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 15:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 15:31 -!- [freenode-info] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked, except to network staff, to services (NickServ, etc.), and to registered users who have unblocked them. Please see the freenode website for more information: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg 15:31 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 15:31 < rxr_> ok - now ebay is usable again 15:32 < rxr_> strange routing my provider does ... 15:32 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 49 secs 15:34 < karasz> mnemoc: dvd+rwtools 5.21.4.10.8 base 15:35 < karasz> this is from T2 packages page 15:35 < karasz> basicaly i need a command line utility to write cd's and dvd's 15:35 < mnemoc> that's only for dvd afaik 15:36 < karasz> so just cdrecord pro does both? 15:36 < mnemoc> dvd+rwtools is to be convined with cdrtools 15:36 < rxr_> mabze dvd]rwtools does both ... 15:37 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178169191.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:37 < karasz> convined ? 15:37 < karasz> i don't understant that word :( 15:38 < mnemoc> 1+1 15:38 < mnemoc> together 15:38 < mnemoc> convened* :) 15:38 < karasz> ahm you mean like use one for cds and the other for dvds 15:39 < mnemoc> even deeper... 15:39 < mnemoc> Q. Do I still need cdrtools? 15:39 < mnemoc> A. Yes. It should be explicitly noted that growisofs is a front-end to mkisofs, 15:39 < mnemoc> ^--- http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ 15:41 < karasz> i am on that page already :) 15:43 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 15:43 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:57 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 15:57 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:10 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 16:10 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:13 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:15 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 16:16 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 16:17 < demian> arrg.. brb 16:17 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit [Client Quit] 16:17 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 16:31 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 16:31 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:41 < CIA-11> amery * r13681 /trunk/package/develop/pwlib/pwlib.conf: * changed pwlib to not force custextract="autoextract_tar_bz2", because that's now the fallback extractor 16:58 < mnemoc> rxr_: why xorg.conf.template use PS/2 for mouse instead of auto? 16:58 < rxr_> there was some historic reason 16:58 < rxr_> maybe mouse wheel deteciton did not work or so 16:59 < rxr_> don't I use IMPS/2 ? 16:59 < mnemoc> yes 16:59 < rxr_> have you a problem with that 17:00 < mnemoc> IMPS/2.... but yesterday i had copy/paste troubles with my usb mouse with that default 17:00 < mnemoc> solved by changing it to Auto 17:00 < rxr_> did the problem always appear ? 17:00 < mnemoc> which is what i used to use on xorg.conf based on .example 17:01 < mnemoc> after an hour using it, the four times i started the notebook with that config 17:01 < mnemoc> and the wheel works :p 17:02 < rxr_> so in one hour the proble occured 4 times ? 17:02 < rxr_> with IMPS/2 the wheel did not work ? 17:02 < mnemoc> the wheel worked fine on IMPS/2 17:02 < rxr_> and with auto as well? 17:03 < rxr_> mnemoc: should I add 3-4 geode kernel patches that are likely be in .15 or .16 to packages/... or archivista custom patch? 17:03 < mnemoc> 4 times, after an hour i loosed copy-on-select, paste-on-both-click 17:03 -!- You're now known as rxr 17:04 < mnemoc> if they only affect geode... i see no problem having them by default 17:04 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:04 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 17:05 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38K Oct 30 04:29 amd-geode.patch 17:06 < mnemoc> svn commit 17:06 < mnemoc> geode is not just for archivista ,-) 17:07 < rxr> sure 17:07 < rxr> I just wanted your ack ,-) 17:07 < mnemoc> ack 17:07 < mnemoc> *g* 17:08 < rxr> # ./scripts/Pkg -deps=none linux26 17:08 < rxr> checking linux26 ... New version (2.6.12.3 -> 2.6.14.2). Automatic update avoided. 17:08 < rxr> Packages scheduled to build: none 17:08 < rxr> lol 17:08 < mnemoc> rxr: OT: MOZ_PLUGINS_PATH patch doesn't work 17:08 < rxr> I have to further improve it ... 17:08 < rxr> mnemoc: when I added it worked - I think at least in mozilla 17:08 < rxr> no idea if I have test firefox 17:08 < rxr> but I think I have 17:08 < mnemoc> i tried on firefox :) 17:08 < mnemoc> plugins are ignored 17:08 < rxr> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -deps=none -force linux26 17:08 < rxr> checking linux26 ... New version (2.6.12.3 -> 2.6.14.2). Automatic update avoided. 17:09 < rxr> oehm 17:09 < mnemoc> :D 17:09 < rxr> was there someone else on Emerge ? 17:09 < mnemoc> not me 17:09 < rxr> or have I caused this ignoring behaviour myself ? 17:09 < mnemoc> you you you, and only you 17:09 < rxr> .oO 17:09 < rxr> shame on me ... 17:09 < demian> lol 17:10 < mnemoc> hi demian 17:10 < rxr> svn log told me mostly them same - so I fix it to only avoid those builds on dependencies, right? 17:10 < mnemoc> demian: when will we see you sending patches? 17:10 < rxr> when one specifies those on the commandline one get's what asked for, right? 17:10 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, explicit emerge requests should not be blacklisted 17:11 < mnemoc> take care with -update-system 17:11 < mnemoc> or however it's named 17:11 < rxr> mnemoc: ah - yes 17:11 < rxr> mnemoc: maybe update system should imply no deps ? 17:11 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:12 < rxr> or should a one level deep dep resolving be performed during a system update ? 17:12 < mnemoc> rxr: yes, and only installed packages ... because it's an update 17:13 < rxr> -system) system=1 ; deps=none ;; 17:13 < mnemoc> rxr: if you are on that, dependencies should be: request X, only X deps. requested O, all deps. 17:13 < rxr> ah - already does so 17:15 < mnemoc> request X (or installed), only X deps. requested O (and not installed), all deps. 17:15 < mnemoc> .oO 17:15 < rxr> you drive the shell code in that script to extremes ... 17:16 < mnemoc> :p 17:16 < rxr> soon it learns to speak itself .... 17:16 < CIA-11> amery * r13682 /branches/2.1/ (package/develop/pwlib/pwlib.conf scripts/functions.in): 17:16 < CIA-11> * merged 13673 from trunk: improved autoextract to use autoextract_tar_bz2 as fallback 17:16 < CIA-11> * merged 13681 from trunk: changed pwlib to not force custextract="autoextract_tar_bz2", no longer needed. 17:16 -!- karasz_ is now known as karasz 17:16 < mnemoc> rxr: auto-prio will be close to that 17:16 < rxr> auto-prio is likely no shell code .-) 17:17 < mnemoc> :) 17:17 < mnemoc> you could... using per-stage tsort 17:17 < mnemoc> which is quite fast 17:18 -!- demian__ [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has joined #t2 17:19 < mnemoc> installed -> only installed 17:19 < demian__> did anyone said sth to me? i saw hilighted text before hangup. 17:19 < mnemoc> X -> only X 17:19 < mnemoc> O -> any 17:19 < rxr> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -force sed 17:19 < rxr> checking sed ... Build forced. Added. 17:19 < rxr> checking binutils ... New version (2.15.94.0.2.2 -> 2.16.91.0.3). Automatic update avoided. 17:19 < rxr> ... 17:19 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:19 < rxr> # ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -deps=none linux26 17:19 < rxr> checking linux26 ... New version (2.6.12.3 -> 2.6.14.2). Added. 17:19 < rxr> all fine ? 17:19 < mnemoc> yes 17:20 < rxr> # ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -system 17:20 < rxr> checking linux-header ... New version (2.6.11 -> 2.6.12.5). Automatic update avoided. 17:20 < rxr> checking glibc ... New version (2.3.5 -> 20050919). Automatic update avoided. 17:20 -!- demian__ is now known as demian 17:20 < rxr> ;-) 17:20 < rxr> mnemoc: we'll soon have another high bandwith mirror for t2 source in .de ... ;-) 17:20 < mnemoc> [13:10:44] hi demian 17:20 < mnemoc> [13:11:00] demian: when will we see you sending patches? 17:20 < mnemoc> rxr: outside tfh-berlin? 17:20 < rxr> yes 17:21 < mnemoc> :D 17:21 < rxr> root server susan does for a company 17:21 < mnemoc> who? 17:21 < mnemoc> legaly? 17:21 < rxr> with 300GB or so of traffic and likely only a few GB utilized by the dompanies shop / web 17:21 < mnemoc> or undercover? 17:21 < rxr> the company whats the server running, soo ;-) 17:21 < rxr> the server even runs t2 ... 17:21 < rxr> of course ... 17:21 < mnemoc> :D 17:22 < rxr> what else ... 17:22 < demian> mnemoc: as soon as i get some time to install a binary t2 installation on one of my servers. but i am still configuring some of them. t2 trunk and isos are already in my hands. 17:22 < mnemoc> demian: 2.1! :) 17:23 < rxr> mnemoc: have you so far experienced the u/dev t2/trunk early userspace ? 17:23 < demian> btw.. i saw last time u have a empty branch named with ur named on svn t2 repos. 17:23 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm going to add a waiting for root device to appear look to the normal t2 initrd/init, so one can boot from USB devices that need some time to come up, ok with you? 17:24 < mnemoc> rxr: nope, never. i'm focused on 2.1... and installing azazel daily on my notebook :) 17:24 < rxr> for a class device there will be no difference, some the loop around it ... 17:24 < mnemoc> brb 17:24 < rxr> s/look/loop/ ... 17:28 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:16 -!- madtux [n=mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #t2 18:16 < madtux> hello 18:32 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 18:32 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:35 < mnemoc> re 18:35 < madtux> welcome back ale :) 18:35 < mnemoc> thanks mightytux 18:36 < madtux> you are very welcome :) 18:37 < mnemoc> rxr: i forgot to say, i agree the delay. 18:37 < mnemoc> madtux: :) 18:39 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.34] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:39 -!- VX [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has joined #t2 18:41 -!- VX is now known as Xenos 18:47 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 18:47 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:53 -!- madtux [n=mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has quit ["leaving"] 19:03 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 19:03 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:03 < _Ragnar_> g++: /usr/lib/.libs/libacl.so: No such file or directory 19:03 * _Ragnar_ kicks kde o_o 19:06 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:07 < mnemoc> o.o 19:07 < _Ragnar_> their libtool is broken 19:07 < mnemoc> hardcoded on the binary? 19:08 < demian> umm.. is there somethign on /proc fs to disable console blanking ? 19:08 < mnemoc> libtool/parse-config: [ ! -f libtool ] || cp -vf $root/usr/bin/libtool . <--- what about this? 19:08 < mnemoc> on premake 1 19:08 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 19:09 < mnemoc> jsaw,_Ragnar_,rxr: is it wrong to libtool/parse-config: hook_add premake 1 '[ ! -f libtool ] || cp -vf $root/usr/bin/libtool .' ? 19:09 < _Ragnar_> it exists in this case 19:10 < mnemoc> uhm 19:12 < _Ragnar_> trying now with the system libtol 19:12 < _Ragnar_> tool* 19:13 < _Ragnar_> btw the firefox patches need work :) 19:13 < _Ragnar_> kcharsets.cpp:492:2: warning: #warning FIXME? 19:13 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 19:18 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 19:18 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:20 < _Ragnar_> hmmm doesn't work with the system libtool :/ 19:20 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:23 < CIA-11> rene * r13683 /trunk/package/mail/exim/exim.conf: 19:23 < CIA-11> * fixed exim to use install to prevent text file busy while emerging into 19:23 < CIA-11> a running system 19:23 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 19:31 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 19:31 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:31 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:36 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 19:44 < Xenos> :> 19:45 -!- Xenos is now known as blah 19:45 -!- blah is now known as blahhh 19:46 -!- xzxx [n=ddd@80.240.208.36] has joined #t2 19:46 < xzxx> /nick Xenos 19:46 [Users #t2] 19:46 [ _Ragnar_] [ demian] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 19:46 [ blahhh ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr_ ] [ SerWou ] [ xzxx ] 19:46 [ CIA-11 ] [ karasz] [ owl ] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 19:46 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 19:46 -!- xzxx is now known as Xenos 19:47 < Xenos> hmm 19:47 -!- Xenos [n=ddd@80.240.208.36] has quit [Client Quit] 19:48 -!- blahhh is now known as Xenos 19:48 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 19:48 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has joined #t2 19:48 -!- Xenos is now known as blahhh 19:48 -!- Xenosdd [n=ddd@80.240.208.36] has joined #t2 19:48 -!- Xenosdd is now known as Xenos 19:49 -!- Xenos [n=ddd@80.240.208.36] has quit [Client Quit] 19:49 -!- blahhh is now known as Xenos 19:49 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has quit [Client Quit] 19:49 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has joined #t2 20:18 < CIA-11> rene * r13684 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/cups-disable.sh: * slightly clean removal of cups init link in the archivsita target 20:19 < CIA-11> rene * r13685 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (10 files in 5 dirs): 20:19 < CIA-11> * added mail server (exim) configuration and setup scripts including menu 20:19 < CIA-11> entries to the archivista target 20:22 < CIA-11> rene * r13686 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/mail-disable.sh: * fixed a comment in the archivista target (copy'n paste left over) 20:35 < CIA-11> rene * r13687 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/exim/configure: 20:35 < CIA-11> * improved the archivista mailserver configuration to consider any domain 20:35 < CIA-11> local (thus clients can assign any verbose name within their network and 20:35 < CIA-11> the box will accept mail send to it) 20:35 < rxr> the Geode is not the fastest - compiling a kernel on it sucks a bit ... 20:36 < mnemoc> how much l1 does it have? 20:36 < rxr> no idea 20:36 < rxr> I emerge x86info for the fun of it ,-) 20:36 < rxr> but it has 500 real MHz - not too much ... 20:43 < karasz> re hi * 20:44 < _Ragnar_> yea the soekis is slow for compile 20:44 < _Ragnar_> soekris* 20:44 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 20:44 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has joined #t2 20:45 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has quit [Client Quit] 20:45 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has joined #t2 20:54 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has joined #t2 20:56 < rxr> mnemoc: x86info -a -v claims this" 20:56 < rxr> Instruction TLB: Fully associative. 16 entries. 20:56 < rxr> Data TLB: Fully associative. 16 entries. 20:56 < rxr> L1 Data cache: Size: 64Kb 16-way associative. lines per tag=1 line size=32 bytes. 20:56 < rxr> L1 Instruction cache: Size: 64Kb 16-way associative. lines per tag=1 line size=32 bytes. 20:56 < rxr> L2 (on CPU) cache: Size: 128Kb 4-way associative. lines per tag=1 line size=32 bytes. 20:56 < rxr> ^- for the AMD Geode LX 20:56 < CIA-11> sebastian * r13688 /trunk/package/gnome2/dia/dia.conf: 20:56 < CIA-11> * changed dia to build optional gnome/pygtk parts only if libgnome or 20:56 < CIA-11> pygtk is available 21:01 < mnemoc> rxr: i expected less :) 21:01 < rxr> if that is valid ... 21:01 < mnemoc> why lie? 21:02 < rxr> i have my doubt x86ifo was adapted to the model specific registers ... 21:02 < rxr> it does not even know the model and spits that out ... 21:02 < mnemoc> uhm 21:02 < rxr> well - maybe it is corret - but maybe not ... 21:02 < rxr> AMD datasheet would help .. 21:02 -!- madtux [i=miguel@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 21:02 < madtux> re 21:02 < rxr> CPU Model : Unknown CPU 21:02 < rxr> .... 21:05 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:12 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 21:12 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:13 < rxr> half of todays log is jsaw_ reconnecting ,-) 21:13 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:15 -!- karasz_ [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:17 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 21:21 < karasz> arghhhhh 21:21 < karasz> Xtreme Pain 21:33 < karasz> goto go 21:33 < karasz> trying to reboot :'( 21:33 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.2/20040819]"] 21:41 < CIA-11> sebastian * r13689 /trunk/package/audio/audacity/audacity.desc: * updated audacity (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4) 21:47 < Xenos> :) 21:56 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 21:56 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:59 -!- demian [n=demian@201.206.44.210] has quit ["leaving"] 21:59 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:01 < rxr> re 22:01 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 22:01 < Xenos> hi, rxr 22:01 < rxr> so - now I have a initrdinit that boots from external USB drives without manual fixup ... 22:01 < rxr> /we dinner 22:01 < rxr> cu 22:01 < Xenos> jsaw, u r welcome ;> 22:02 < rxr> welcome to actually stay ,-) 22:02 < Xenos> :) 22:03 < rxr> I have KDE (from the archivista install) now running on this 500Mhz ~1W box ... 22:03 < karasz> :) 22:11 -!- misl [n=chatzill@cc478814-d.mp1.dr.home.nl] has joined #t2 22:11 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:12 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 22:12 < misl> :) hi all 22:12 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CD033.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 22:12 < MisterN> hi 22:15 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.241.55] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:22 < CIA-11> sebastian * r13690 /trunk/package/graphic/aqsis/aqsis.desc: * updated aqsis (1.0.0 -> 1.0.1) 22:29 -!- jsaw_ [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 22:29 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:36 -!- misl [n=chatzill@cc478814-d.mp1.dr.home.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68a [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717]"] 22:36 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 22:44 -!- Xenos [n=stealth@80.240.208.36] has joined #t2 23:00 < Xenos> 'night all, guys 23:00 * Xenos is away: dropped to bed.. 23:05 < MisterN> n8 23:05 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CD033.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Wieso gibt es keine guten Quitmessages? Jaja, diese ist auch doof."] 23:07 < CIA-11> sebastian * r13691 /trunk/package/graphic/vips/vips.desc: * updated vips (7.10.15 -> 7.10.17) 23:07 < CIA-11> sebastian * r13692 /trunk/package/graphic/nip2/nip2.desc: * updated nip2 (7.10.14 -> 7.10.16) 23:43 < mnemoc> rehi 23:51 < mnemoc> rxr: http://www.rpath.com/ --- Log closed Thu Dec 01 00:00:03 2005