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00:49 < mnemoc> jsaw: does pam_capability work?
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01:16 < SerWou> hello
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03:37 < madtux> hello
04:05 < mnemoc> hi madtux 
04:05 < mnemoc> night at office again?
04:07 < madtux> yes
04:08 < madtux> i will be on nightshift all this week
04:08 < madtux> btw i hate the fact that u guys don't use svn protocol for all the checkout when using it
04:09 < madtux> Fetching external item into 'source/utility'
04:09 < madtux> svn: REPORT request failed on '/gsmp/!svn/bc/396/trunk/utility'
04:09 < madtux> svn: REPORT of '/gsmp/!svn/bc/396/trunk/utility': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.exactcode.de)
04:09 < mnemoc> try port 81
04:09 < mnemoc> or https
04:09 < madtux> why can't i just use svn protocol?
04:09 < madtux> god damn it
04:10 < mnemoc> why the earth is not cubic, god damn it
04:10 < madtux> it is..
04:12 < madtux> miguel@itmiguel$ svn co http://svn.exactcode.de:81/t2/trunk t2-trunk
04:12 < madtux> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/t2/trunk'
04:12 < madtux> svn: PROPFIND of '/t2/trunk': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.exactcode.de:81)
04:12 < mnemoc> https ?
04:16 < madtux> fetching.. wait
04:22 < madtux> same thing... i will fix it manually... this sucks
04:24 < mnemoc> your proxy sucks
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04:27 < madtux> no it doesn;t
04:27 < madtux> it does exactly what it has to do
04:27 < mnemoc> make it proxy DAV requests
04:27 < madtux> Fetching external item into 't2-trunk/source/utility'
04:27 < madtux> svn: REPORT request failed on '/gsmp/!svn/bc/396/trunk/utility'
04:27 < madtux> svn: REPORT of '/gsmp/!svn/bc/396/trunk/utility': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.exactcode.de)
04:28 < madtux> why the hell if i am want to use https or svn protocol... does it still try to use http to on that?
04:28 < madtux> this sucks
04:28 < mnemoc> svn co -N  
04:29 < mnemoc> and using svn pedit svn:externals remove the reference to utility
04:30 < madtux> still this sucks... it should use whatever protocol i am using
04:30 < madtux> otherwise me or even some users will fscked.. or forced to edit stuff
04:30 < madtux> this is not acceptable
04:32 < madtux> ...
04:32 < mnemoc> insult svn:externals at #svn
04:33 < madtux> i am not insulting u am i?
04:33 < mnemoc> nope
04:33 < madtux> good cause i am not trying to do that
04:33 < madtux> i am just a bit frustrated
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07:26 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Give us a greeting and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have :-)
07:26 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 11 21:33:14 2005]
07:26 [Users #t2]
07:26 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw  ] [ madtux] [ owl ] [ sepp     ] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] 
07:26 [ CIA-11   ] [ karasz] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ SerWou   ] [ valentin       ] 
07:26 [ ilia_away] [ keinek] [ mtr_  ] [ rxr_] [ sparc-kly] [ Xenos          ] 
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08:14 < madtux> re
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08:24 < madtux> mnemoc, !
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10:16 < owl> lol. what did he do_
10:21 < SerWou> good morning
10:21 < owl> hi SerWou 
10:22 < SerWou> how are you ?
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10:33 < owl> SerWou: stressed. thx. have to drive to a meeting with customer in some minutes >*
10:34 < owl> you?
10:37 < rxr_> re
10:38 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:39 < owl> bye
10:40 < rxr> cu owl 
10:41 < madtux> hello rxr 
10:42 < rxr> hi miguel
10:44 < madtux> how is it going?
10:45 < SerWou> hello rxr and madtux 
10:45 < madtux> greetings SerWou 
10:50 < rxr> madtux: all fine ,-)
11:14  * Xenos is back (gone 11:20:51)
11:14 < Xenos> hi all ;)
11:16 < madtux> hiho
11:46 < rxr> re
11:52 < karasz> moin all
11:52 < rxr> moin karasz 
11:52 < madtux> greetings
11:52 < karasz> how are you rxr?
11:52 < karasz> greetings accepted and returned madtux :)
11:52 < madtux> ;-)
11:53 < SerWou> ping mnemoc  ?
11:53 < karasz> mnemoc doesn't seem to be around yet...
11:53 < SerWou> hello karasz ;)
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11:56 < karasz> :(
11:56 < karasz> my connection is like the wind :(
11:56 < karasz> sometimes blows sometimes not
11:56 < SerWou> how to run a command/add a script during the boot process of t2 ?
11:56 < karasz> it seems like now is the not case :(
11:56 < SerWou> hehe karasz , you have a free connection
11:57 < karasz> free of transported bits you mean..?
11:57 < karasz> ;)
11:57 < SerWou> also ;)
11:59 < rxr> SerWou: when you run a "normal" t2 with sysv init, place the script in /sbin/init.d
11:59 < rxr> and create a symlink in /etc/rc.d/rc.X/S* for start and /K* for shutdown
12:00 < SerWou> scripts in /sbin/init.d/  should be done in a specific way ?  I want to start "qmail" and, launch "Raid software" and export them as a new NFS share
12:02 < rxr> we have no qmail init script ?
12:02 < rxr> well - look at the others, start / stop and the usual stuff in the case / esax
12:02 < rxr> esac
12:03 < SerWou> qmail have a script, but not included in stone
12:20 < CIA-11> rene * r13546 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.desc: * updated gdm (2.8.0.5 -> 2.8.0.6)
12:21 < CIA-11> rene * r13547 /trunk/package/gnome2/glib/glib.desc: * updated glib (2.8.3 -> 2.8.4)
12:21 < rxr> http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10695
12:21 < rxr> ^- hm
12:29 < rxr> SGI Octane2 - 2x 600MHz R14k - 91GB - Odyssey V6
12:29 < rxr> EUR 1.061,00  
12:29 < rxr> ...
12:37 < karasz> pretty neat that LaCie :)
12:38 < karasz> but kinda slow isn't it?
12:40 < rxr> the lacie or the octane ?
12:42 < karasz> lacie
12:42 < karasz> Octane i do not know
12:42 < karasz> i never encountered SGI stuff
12:42 < karasz> but 600 MHz?
12:43 < rxr> your open powers do not have much more *g*
12:43 < karasz> gotago
12:44 < rxr> I do not liek the new lacie lego design ...
12:44 < rxr> cu karasz 
12:44 < karasz> hmm 600 vs 1500
12:44 < karasz> ?
12:44 < karasz> be back in few hours
12:44 < karasz> ;)
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13:13 < SerWou> no rc.local in t2 ?
13:16 < rxr> SerWou: nope
13:16 < rxr> but I also thought about introducing that ...
13:16 < SerWou> because instead of create a script in rc3.d/  some people told me to put those commands at the end of rc.local      http://pastebin.com/436743
13:25 < rxr> well
13:26 < rxr> rc.local would be handy
13:26 < rxr> however raid start should be already in a system script IIRC
13:26 < rxr> and nfs exports have a script @ T2 as well
13:26 < rxr> hm - ok - or there is no raid start there ...
13:26 < SerWou> no for RAID :-/ mnemoc helped me, i have to talk with him
13:27 < SerWou> about exportfs, i exportfs after the raid mount because i share RAID by nfs
13:30 < SerWou> between rxr, no scripts for qmail yet ? ;)
13:33  * rxr is not using qmail ...
13:33 < SerWou> exim ?
13:33 < rxr> ack
13:34 < SerWou> well, i don't see the link between no script for qmail in t2 and the fact you don't use Qmail ;)
13:34 < SerWou> i don't know ack
13:34 < karasz> few hours passed :)
13:34 < karasz> i am back
13:35 < SerWou> hello karasz 
13:35 < rxr> SerWou: that was just a "don't know"
13:35 < karasz> bon jour SerWou :)
13:35 < SerWou> yes yes :-D
13:35 < SerWou> Bonjour Mr karasz 
13:35 < karasz> no Mr, just plain karasz
13:36 < SerWou> Miss ?
13:36 < karasz> my french needs polishing I guess
13:37 < SerWou> hehe
13:37 < karasz> je suis un garcon, pas une fille
13:37 < SerWou> je vais t'apprendre le français ;)
13:38 < karasz> je pense que je suis un homme perdu pour la langue francais
13:38 < SerWou> LOL
13:39 < karasz> j'ai appris le français pendant six années d'en vain
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13:43 < SerWou> où tu l'as appris ?
13:43 < SerWou> where did you learn it ?
13:54 < karasz> a l'ecole
13:56 < karasz> mais ainsi j'ai appris l'anglais juste cet anglais collé à moi mieux
13:56 < SerWou> quite good for someone who learned it at school, in french, we are bad in foreign language because school extra-language is bad ;)
13:56 < karasz> i don't understand that SerWou 
13:57 < karasz> why is bad extra-language?
13:57 < SerWou> "school extra-language teaching way is bad" **
13:57 < karasz> hmmm
13:57 < SerWou> forgot some words ;)
13:58 < karasz> anyway for a latin country as us english teaching is very good
13:59 < karasz> and there are more english speakers than french speakers here :?
13:59 < SerWou> i think so
13:59 < karasz> here i mean not on T2 but in my country
13:59 < SerWou> ha
13:59 < SerWou> ok
14:00 < SerWou> where do you live ?
14:00 < SerWou> damned
14:00 < SerWou> sorry, gtg now
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14:04 < karasz> damn
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15:36 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13548 /trunk/package/games/simgear/simgear.desc: * update simgear (0.3.8 -> 0.3.9)
15:36 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13549 /trunk/package/games/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * update flightgear (0.9.8 -> 0.9.9)
15:37 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13550 /trunk/package/develop/lua/lua.conf: * copy lua documentation
15:40 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13551 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgsf/libgsf.desc: * update libgsf (1.13.2 -> 1.13.3)
15:41 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13552 /trunk/package/gnome2/goffice/goffice.desc: 
15:41 < CIA-11> * update goffice (0.1.0 -> 0.1.2)
15:41 < CIA-11>  (required by gnumeric)
15:50 < mnemoc> moin
15:51 < mnemoc> SerWou: pong
15:51 < Xenos> mnemoc: hello ;>
15:51 < mnemoc> rxr: qmail is not designed to run as start/stop, it's designed to run supervised.
15:56 < mnemoc> moin!
15:56 < mnemoc> hi Xenos 
16:04 < SerWou> hello mnemoc , it's about the /dev tweak, you told me to add a couple of line to generate symlinks /dev/md/1 to /dev/md1, the problem is : that's generate around 300 billions of symlink during the boot ;)
16:05 < mnemoc> i _never_ said you to symlink them
16:05 < mnemoc> if you need old /dev/mdN schema, use devfsd.
16:06 < SerWou> no no
16:16 < mnemoc> no no?
16:17 < Xenos> :))
16:18 < SerWou> i don't want to use devfsd
16:18 < mnemoc> so use /dev/md/N
16:19 < SerWou> that's what i'm doing
16:21 < mnemoc> if you want to do something with md/1 md/5 and md/6; for x in /dev/md/{1,5,6}; do foo $x; done
16:25 < karasz> moin mnemoc 
16:27 < mnemoc> moin karasz 
16:27 < karasz> how are you today?
16:28 < mnemoc> tired^3
16:32 < karasz> :(
16:32 < karasz> phisicaly or mentaly?
16:39 < mnemoc> mentaly mainly
16:42 < valentin> hi
16:42 < valentin> poor mnemoc 
16:44 < mnemoc> hi valentin 
16:54 < owl> grunz. re
16:55 < karasz> hi owl 
16:56 < owl> hi karasz 
16:59 < karasz> got to go now
16:59 < karasz> bbl
17:00 < mnemoc> cu karasz 
17:10 < SerWou> any ideas where knfsd log can be found ?
17:16 < rxr> oehm - it logs to syslog
17:16 < rxr> /var/log/messages usually
17:18 < SerWou> thanks
17:18 < SerWou> strange, i don't see nothing
17:18 < SerWou> knfs freeze during the launch with stone or by hand, it seems to wait something....
17:19 < SerWou> it works fine on my other t2
17:19 < SerWou> something is fucked up around...
17:20 < mnemoc> strace
17:21 < Xenos> looooool
17:21 < Xenos> ftp://mirror.linuxsoft.cz/wallpapers/616/kill-bill-tux-800.png
17:21 < Xenos> :))
17:21 < SerWou> hehe Xenos 
17:26 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
17:27 < SerWou>  hummm starting knfsd   /usr/bin/nfsd   :  no such file or directory   :-/
17:29 < mnemoc> moin rxr
17:50 < CIA-11> amery * r13553 /trunk/package/textproc/text2pdf/ (. text2pdf.conf text2pdf.desc): * added text2pdf (1.1) - a text file to PDF converter
17:50 < mnemoc> interesting proof of concept for a non-custmain package ----^
17:54 < mnemoc> but i think i should have make two hooks, one for compiling and one for installing instead of one
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18:04 < kleper> hi
18:04 < rxr> hi kleper and veki 
18:04 [Users #t2]
18:04 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw  ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr   ] [ sparc-kly      ] [ veki ] 
18:04 [ CIA-11  ] [ karasz] [ mtr   ] [ sepp_ ] [ sparc-kly[WORK]] [ Xenos] 
18:04 [ geekitus] [ kleper] [ owl   ] [ SerWou] [ valentin       ] 
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18:04 < veki> hi
18:04 < veki> howa re you  :-)
18:04 < kleper> hi rxr 
18:07 < kleper> who had used multicast mode for video streaming? any aplication for that on linux?
18:08 < SerWou> i never used multicast kleper , but little question, you wanna make multicast on a local network or in interwed ?
18:08 < kleper> local network
18:09 < kleper> is only for know how this run :)
18:09 < SerWou> ok, because interweb is not readu for multicast ;)
18:10 < SerWou> you have to get router configured to allow multicast i think
18:10 < sparc-kly> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Ultra-60-workstation-w-450MHz-1GB-MEM-2-x-9GB_W0QQitemZ5831390815QQcategoryZ20328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :)
18:13 < mnemoc> looks good :)
18:13 < sparc-kly> http://cgi.ebay.com/Sun-Ultra-80-Workstation-w-4-450MHz-4GB-2x-18GB_W0QQitemZ5833609537QQcategoryZ20328QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem <-- this looks good :)
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18:20 < mnemoc> 700?!
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18:20 < sparc-kly> goood price :)
18:21 < sparc-kly> Quad 450 MHz 4MB Cache CPU
18:22 < sparc-kly> my 2600+ beat this System in single tasking . 
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19:01 < CIA-11> amery * r13554 /trunk/package/security/dropbear/dropbear.postinstall: * added postinstall script to make dropbear host keys
19:03 < rxr> mnemoc: dropbear key support should be equal to openssh - if you do postinstall dropbear, openssh should be adapted accordingly, no ?
19:03 < mnemoc> am i authorized to move openssh key code from stone to postinstall?
19:03 < rxr> on trunk, ... maybe
19:03 < _Ragnar_> moin
19:04 < rxr> the question is, do we want this
19:04 < rxr> postmake would mean when it is installed, right ?
19:04 < mnemoc> why not?
19:04 < rxr> most distros even do generate on init if no keys are avail
19:04 < mnemoc> postinstall files are run on installation, just once
19:04 < rxr> but that is a bit evil, right =?
19:04 < _Ragnar_> right
19:04 < mnemoc> yes
19:10 < rxr> mnemoc: so you do not like the openssh stone module ?
19:11 < mnemoc> i think it's pure duplication, having key generation on postinstall
19:12 < rxr> yeah - so you promote to only postinstall *ssh keygen ?
19:12 < mnemoc> yep
19:12 < mnemoc> deterministic tasks should be automatic
19:13 < rxr> then do so
19:13 < mnemoc> ok :)
19:14 < rxr> I hope you are not form the "refactor enough to delay 2.2 department" ...
19:14  * mnemoc hides
19:14 < mnemoc> no no... i want 2.2 shocking /.
19:15 < rxr> yeah - especially /.
19:15 < _Ragnar_> *g*
19:16 < _Ragnar_> please ONLY generate keys on postinstall if not already present
19:16 < mnemoc> sure
19:17 < mnemoc> # cat package/security/dropbear/dropbear.postinstall
19:17 < mnemoc> #!/bin/sh
19:17 < mnemoc> mkdir -p /etc/dropbear
19:17 < mnemoc> for x in rsa dss; do
19:17 < mnemoc>         [ -f /etc/dropbear/dropbear_${x}_host_key ] || \
19:17 < mnemoc>                 D_bindir/dropbearkey -t $x -f /etc/dropbear/dropbear_${x}_host_key
19:17 < mnemoc> done
19:17 < rxr> adapting a scanner driver to work with Adobe Acrobat Professional for Mac is not too much fun
19:18 < _Ragnar_> D_bindir?
19:18 < mnemoc> $bindir, autoreplaced
19:19 < mnemoc> scripts/functions.in:372:           -e s,D_bindir,$bindir,g   -e s,D_sbindir,$sbindir,g \
19:19 < _Ragnar_> ok
19:22 < mnemoc> but i would like to refactor postinstall
19:22 < mnemoc> etc/postinstall/* called on every installation with $pkg as argument
19:22 < mnemoc> and var/adm/postinstall/$pkg called for my own installation
19:23 < mnemoc> like dropbear/openssh key gens
19:23 < rxr> etc/postinstall.d  ?
19:23 < mnemoc> yes
19:24 < mnemoc> on system install, mine -nopostinstall *.gem and then /etc/postinstall/$x first-time
19:25 < mnemoc> but on updates or emerges or install call  /etc/postinstall/$x $pkg
19:25 < mnemoc> like 'post install hooks'
19:25 < rxr> you want that in mine ..
19:25 < rxr> .my oh my ...
19:26 < rxr> you hack that ... ,-)!
19:26 < mnemoc> on mine++ :)
19:26 < rxr> I have a private mine svn repository on my subnotebook - I could make it public if you actually really wanna add that ...
19:26 < rxr> I could even setup it up in a way to include the whole mine history (so far I started form mine 0.21 ...
19:26 < rxr> )
19:28 < mnemoc> what do you think about $pkg specific tasks at var/adm/{postinstall,preupdate}/$pkg ?
19:29 < mnemoc> .oO( why do we have two differente cksum dirs on var/adm? )o
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19:31 < mnemoc> wb MsN
19:31 < mnemoc> MrN*
19:31 < MisterN> hi
19:32 < MisterN> mnemoc: you like that, eh? :p
19:34 < mnemoc> to make typos?
19:34 < mnemoc> nah
19:34 < mnemoc> fingers out of control
19:36 < MisterN> they always say that
19:37 < MisterN> the funny thing is: because of my prename they even do that in real life :D
19:37 < MisterN> damn fools who cannot read
19:37 < mnemoc> :)
19:38 < MisterN> i like my prename though. one starts to like long-time possessions.
20:09 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13555 /trunk/scripts/Create-CopyPatch: * make Create-CopyPatch accept package names as argument
20:14 < rxr> jsaw: cool ,-)
20:15 < jsaw> :)
20:15 < jsaw> re
20:15 < rxr> hi jsaw 
20:15  * mnemoc wants the same on Commit.sh
20:15 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 
20:15 < jsaw> hi mnemoc , rxr
20:15 < jsaw> mnemoc: look at create-copypatch...
20:16 < jsaw> eh, how do I name a patch that should only be applied to one source tar ?
20:17 < mnemoc> .source
20:17 < jsaw> look at eterm16, two sources, libast and Eterm. I only want the patch to apply to Eterm
20:18 < jsaw> *.patch.Eterm ?
20:18 < jsaw> or *.patch.Eterm-0.9.3 ?
20:18 < mnemoc> `ls $confdir/*.patch.${xsrctar/-[v0-9]*/} 2> /dev/null`
20:18 < jsaw> thanks
20:18 < mnemoc> yw 
20:19 < _Ragnar_> uhm
20:19 < _Ragnar_> and the '.'?
20:20 < mnemoc> ?
20:20 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13556 /trunk/package/network/irssi/include.patch: * remove old patch that does not apply
20:21 < _Ragnar_> -[v0-9]* matches -27623v91 but not -0.9.3 or?
20:21 < rxr> .Eterm will work
20:21 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: * match the rest :)
20:21 < rxr> it mathces . because it is not a posix regex but globbing pattern
20:21 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: it's bash, not sed
20:21 < _Ragnar_> ooh duh *lol*
20:22  * _Ragnar_ hate on sh :)
20:22 < mnemoc> :)
20:22 < Xenos> :))
20:25 < _Ragnar_> uhm any news about the glibc redefinition bug?
20:26 < _Ragnar_> the patch mtr pointed to doesn't apply to binutils for me
20:27 < CIA-11> jsaw * r13557 /trunk/package/e16/eterm16/lvalue-assignment.patch.Eterm: * fix build with gcc4
20:27 < jsaw> dinner, cu later
20:29 < _Ragnar_> in no one here building trunk at all???
20:30 < _Ragnar_> is*
20:31 < mnemoc> i don't
20:31 < mnemoc> but jsaw and rene do
20:31 < mnemoc> at least
20:32 < CIA-11> amery * r13558 /branches/2.1/package/base/runit/packages/gdm-gdm.tail: * added tail file to start gdm on runit
20:33 < _Ragnar_> so this does not occur for them?
20:33 < mnemoc> binutils was downdated
20:34 < _Ragnar_> hmm o_o
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21:00 < antimac> When will the site be back up?
21:00 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: I still get the same error with the domndated binutils
21:00 < _Ragnar_> down*
21:01 < antimac> And, something new about the sparc-port or trunk at all? :)
21:02 < mnemoc>  the site be back up?
21:02 < antimac> It's down.
21:02 < Xenos> ?
21:02 < Xenos> hm
21:03 < mnemoc> uhm... yes
21:03 < mnemoc> rxr,valentin: exactcode is down
21:05 < mnemoc> antimac: afaik sparc64 is working fine
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21:08 < mnemoc> antimac: valentin revived, so site is up again
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21:49 < CIA-11> amery * r13559 /branches/2.1/package/base/runit/packages/cups-cups.tail: * added runit/tail file for cups
21:49 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/66572
21:50 < rxr> ^- hehe - xbox 360 instable as well ?
21:50 < antimac> Trunk still doesn't work for me. "symbol `__listen' is already defined"
21:50 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CFD8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
21:52 < antimac> Yes, hope they get it: http://www.free60.org/wiki/Main_Page
21:52 < antimac> :)
21:52 < rxr> antimac: which platform ?
21:53 < valentin> re
21:53 < antimac> sparc64, but it's the same for x86 for trunc
21:53 < rxr> antimac: when you built on x86 for x86 you get this "symbol `__listen' is already defined" ?
21:53 < antimac> yes
21:53 < rxr> ouhm
21:53 < rxr> not here
21:54 < rxr> neither for mips and all sort of other stuff I built
21:54 < antimac> hmm
21:54 < rxr> antimac: what is your host os ?
21:54 < antimac> slackware current
21:54 < mnemoc> hostcc? hostld?
21:54 < rxr> can you send me the full error log ? rene@t2-project.org
21:54 < rxr> but I'll crawl into bed now ...
21:54 < antimac> gcc version 3.3.6
21:54 < rxr> I take a look into the mail
21:54 < rxr> cu all
21:54 < antimac> ciao
21:54 < Xenos> cu, rxr
21:54 < antimac> GNU ld version 2.15.92.0.2 20040927
21:56 < antimac> could someone msg me his/her "listen.S"?
21:56 < antimac> May only be 5 lines
22:02 < antimac> No, it's Ok.
22:03 < mnemoc> i don't have a listen.S file here
22:03 < antimac> it's in glibc/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux, but no problem anymore
22:04 < mnemoc> :)
22:04 < mnemoc> bbl
22:04 < CIA-11> amery * r13560 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/ (cups-cups.tail gdm-gdm.tail): * merged 13558,13559 from 2.1 branch: added runit/tail files for gdm and cups
22:10 < antimac> Hmm, there's no config.h anymore.
22:11 < antimac> Hmm, but in objdir
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22:17 < antimac> .globl __listen
22:17 < antimac> .weak __listen
22:19 < antimac> globl is set in socket.S, but for socket (but: "#define socket listen" in listen.S)
22:24 < sparc-kly> http://www.nonstopmac.com/2005/11/the_reasons_behind_my_love_for.htm :)
22:27 < Xenos> 'night all
22:27 < antimac> night
22:27  * Xenos is away: dropped to bed.. as usual :>
22:42 < antimac> >> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-hacker/2005-11/msg00020.html <<
22:42 < antimac> Sound interesting though
22:44 < antimac> Ok, glibc bug :)
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23:01 < demian> hi
23:01 < antimac> It's just that the old binutils ignored that failure.
23:01 < antimac> hi
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23:05 < jsaw> re
23:06 < jsaw> antimac: can you put the patch into glibc package directory and send a patch?
23:12 < antimac> To whom?
23:12 < jsaw> to the mailing list :)
23:13 < jsaw> only if it works, of course ;)
23:13 < antimac> :)
23:14 < MisterN> n8
23:14 < jsaw> gnight MisterN 
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23:16 < jsaw> antimac: haven't seen your nick yet, are you new to T2?
23:17 < antimac> yes
23:19 < jsaw> so, just a few words on how to add a patch (in case you want to do it yourself, otherwise send the link to the list and rxr will take care of - I don't have powerpc architecture to test here):
23:19 < antimac> Me neither, at least not a working one. :)
23:20 < jsaw> oh, reading backlog.... x86 has the same problem?
23:20 < jsaw> hmm...
23:20 < jsaw> which stage fails?
23:21 < antimac> 1-glibc.err (stage 1?)
23:22 < jsaw> yep
23:22 < jsaw> are you compiling an svn checkout, or did you download stable?
23:22 < antimac> trunk per svn
23:23 < jsaw> latest checkout?
23:23 < antimac> Updated it some hours ago.
23:24 < jsaw> fgrep '[V]' package/base/binutils/binutils.desc
23:24 < jsaw> -> [V] 2.16.91.0.3
23:24 < jsaw> ?
23:24 < antimac> me too
23:24 < antimac> Hmm
23:25 < jsaw> okay.
23:28 < demian> goign to co t2, let's see what changed from rock.. 
23:28 < demian> ;-)
23:30 < jsaw> hi demian 
23:30 < demian> rock.. i still rmember that time using rock 1.4.0 (it was called "stable" sometime) :p
23:31 < jsaw> :)
23:32 < jsaw> antimac: I'm lost....
23:32 < antimac> Huh?
23:32 < jsaw> antimac: I don't see a reason why it should fail on your machine...
23:32 < demian> once we got an idea just like t2.. it was suspended. four persons coding and maintaining packages.. it was difficult, more adding dependencies and that so many packages were updated fast,.
23:33 < demian> but this looks cool.
23:34 < antimac> I don't either, the more I think about.
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23:34 < jsaw> antimac: I guess, rxr's recommendation is best for now, send him the log...
23:35 < jsaw> demian: what idea "like t2" do you mean?
23:36 < demian> SDE
23:37 < antimac> Ok, but tomorrow, ciao.
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23:37 < jsaw> cu antimac...
23:38 < jsaw> demian: well, the different style of patch handling helps a lot ;)
23:39 < demian> i see two branches currently at t2 svn.. what is being done in these branchaes ?
23:39 < demian> at branch/
23:39 < jsaw> 2.1 is the stable tree, it is based on devfs
23:39 < jsaw> trunk is 2.2, is udev and modular X11 based
23:39 < jsaw> (very short info...)
23:40 < jsaw> 2.1 is maintained by mnemoc
23:40 < demian> and what is mnemoc doing in the another branch?
23:40 < jsaw> lemma see
23:42 < jsaw> branches/mnemoc is empty now... iirc it was for testing
23:42 < demian> ic
23:43 < demian> how much time ago was branched to trunk 2.2, and left back 2.1 ?
23:44 < jsaw> ehem eh, ..., about half a year?
23:44 < jsaw> no, older
23:45 < demian> oh. and expecting a milestone or stable release.. when _
23:45 < demian> ?
23:45 < jsaw> 10 month maybe, don't remember (and am too lazy to grep svn log..)
23:46 < jsaw> 2.2.0 is planned for dec
23:46 < demian> so im getting atm almost stable code, thats cool..
23:46 < jsaw> 2.1.1 should be due soon too
23:47 < jsaw> demian: well, there's quite some polishing to done, still.
23:48 < demian> sure, it's common. ;-)
23:48 < jsaw> demian: there's one big point left: bootdisk
23:48 < jsaw> demian: bootdisk target is not functional, it'll be removed soon anyway.
23:49 < jsaw> demian: rene is working on the infrastructure to make _any_ target bootable by itself
23:49 < demian> bootdisk target is similar to rock's 2.o bootdisk target ?
23:49 < demian> that's cool.
23:49 < jsaw> besides some minor updates, it _is_ rock's bootdisk...
23:50 < jsaw> the livecd is basis for the "all targets bootable" thing
23:51 < demian> afaik.. there was a single bootdisk and targets were independant of this.. there were a router target too,
23:51 < jsaw> yes
23:52 < jsaw> 2.1 is still like that
23:52 < demian> so now, u think to fusion targets with their custom bootdisk procedures?
23:53 < jsaw> no, a single bootdisk creation procedure for all targets, plus local modifications if necessary
23:54 < jsaw> (local = per target)
23:54 < demian> just wondered why we are in yrs 2005 and teh trunk's lastest Documentation/CHANGELOG*.txt is 2003..
23:54 < demian> ic.
23:55 < demian> s/yrs/year
23:56 < jsaw> hmm, could be deleted I guess
23:58 < valentin> demian: we use subversion since then
23:58 < jsaw> hi valentin 
23:58 < valentin> and there you have svn log
23:58 < valentin> hi jsaw, how are you ?
23:58 < demian> just supposed that :).. in fact i am now consulting subversion commits comments
23:59 < jsaw> valentin: waiting for the espresso to wake me up, I mean *really* wake me up
23:59 < valentin> wow, do you have one handy for me too ?
23:59 < valentin> ok, i rather should sleep soon. janna will wake me in about 7h
23:59 < valentin> or even earlier
23:59  * jsaw hands espresso to valentin
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