--- Log opened Mon Nov 07 00:00:13 2005 --- Day changed Mon Nov 07 2005 00:00 < morfoh> after closing and restarting it seems to behave well again 00:01 < rxr> hm 00:01 < CIA-12> rene * r13194 /trunk/package/base/shadow/ (login.defs login_defs.patch nullok.patch shadow.conf): 00:01 < CIA-12> * further fixed latest shadow (junk) by supplying a full login.defs 00:01 < CIA-12> (taken from Fedora Core) because the default one contains options 00:01 < CIA-12> that are no longer vailed when built with PAM support 00:01 < CIA-12> * allow a blank password by default 00:03 < CIA-12> rene * r13195 /trunk/misc/target/functions.in: 00:03 < CIA-12> * disabled debug logging in the live-cd used target/functions.in 00:03 < CIA-12> * removed reverse patch apply attempt from times when the rootfs 00:03 < CIA-12> creation of the live cd was not done with rsync 00:05 < CIA-12> rene * r13196 /trunk/package/e17/entrance/entrance.conf: * fixed entrance Xsession path for lib64 00:07 < mnemoc> == 11:48:20 =[5]=> Building office/ooo [2.0.0.1 2.1-stable]. 00:07 < mnemoc> == 11/06/05 17:01:33 =[5]=> Finished building package ooo. 00:07 < mnemoc> ^---- java less 00:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: not bad :) 00:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, I think we can add minimal-axp 2.1.0 iso's tomorrow 00:10 < mnemoc> :) 00:10 < mnemoc> what about LP? 00:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'm currently working on a server update which I suppose to install tomorrow too 00:12 < mnemoc> great :) 00:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep :) 00:20 < rxr> LP ? 00:20 < morfoh> rxr: LinguaPlone 00:20 < rxr> morfoh: btw. why do you thing we need athlon-xp isos online 00:20 < rxr> ? even 00:20 < morfoh> i18n support 00:20 < morfoh> rxr: I just build them for my use and for some friends 00:21 < morfoh> if you don't see a need for them we don't have to upload .... no problem 00:22 < morfoh> but I guess someone else likes to use it too ... I just want to share the stuf 00:24 < mnemoc> rxr: sparkly was trying to get a authorization for a 'mirror' on his university. and they use mainly athlonxp. i think we could balance the load between gsmp for core archs and other places for other interesting flavors 00:24 < rxr> morfoh: the problem is we have not infinite upload 00:24 < rxr> the uni pays incomming traffic - but not outgoing ... 00:25 < rxr> though you could inject them when you are there with a wifi account (I could hand you) on your monday's spart sessions ,-) 00:25 < morfoh> rxr: ic ... and I know we need some alternatives besides the Uni 00:25 < morfoh> rxr: ok 00:26 < rxr> morfoh: well - even if we have more when time comes I think the main mirrors should have all main files 00:26 < rxr> otherwise you just keep in some loop searching for the file you want 00:27 < mnemoc> not if we have a 'page' with the right links 00:27 < mnemoc> instead of browsing apache's autoindex 00:27 < morfoh> rxr: then this seems to be a "use case" for t2-powered.net ... providing some additional iso's 00:27 < rxr> well - then I would group them by arch: x86.iso.t2-powered.net 00:27 < rxr> powerpc.iso.t2-powered.net 00:27 < rxr> ... 00:27 < rxr> ,-) 00:28 < morfoh> anyway ... I find it useful to provide as much as arch's as possible with an official release 00:28 < morfoh> ;) 00:28 < rxr> though maybe we should explore bitorrent and such 00:28 < mnemoc> i tried, wiithout any support 00:28 < morfoh> rxr: I guess mnemoc will jump around ;) 00:28 < morfoh> :) 00:29 < rxr> mnemoc: I have no spare HD space on my RS6K router ... 00:29 < rxr> and the uni blocks the ports I would need to seed from there ... 00:29 < rxr> and so on ... 00:29 < rxr> exactcode.de is also running on low-HD 00:29 < rxr> 433508 99% /home 8-\ 00:30 < rxr> btw. notify the next time svn returns BDB can not lock file out of space -) 00:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll setup a bt permanently on my server then 00:30 < morfoh> hopefully it will not "burn" my whoe bandwidth 00:31 < mnemoc> [ target ][ version ][ arch ][ dl1 ][ dl2 ][ dl3 ][ torrent ] 00:31 < mnemoc> [ target ][ version ][ arch ][ dl1 ][ dl2 ][ --- ][ torrent ] 00:31 < mnemoc> [ target ][ version ][ arch ][ --- ][ dl2 ][ --- ][ torrent ] 00:32 < morfoh> rxr: I guess Aldas and me notified you immediately after detecting the problem ... or should I call at 1 o'clock ? ;) 00:32 < mnemoc> with simple filtering 00:32 < rxr> morfoh: well - depends - when I was around some mintues before then yes - if I left on 10 then not ... 00:32 < morfoh> ok :) 00:33 < rxr> morfoh: well - now that I'm officially a student there again I "could" ask if I get those ports for those box 00:33 < rxr> however I was not too friendly to the admin that disabled the Terminal.app on the Mac OSX boxes ... 00:33 < rxr> so chances are not too good ... 00:33 < morfoh> rxr: what about setting up a small "Monitoring" tool ... sending you an SMS if problems occur ? ;) 00:33 < rxr> mnemoc: they disables the Terminal.app on OS suX boxes for "enhanced security" 00:34 < rxr> mnemoc: in a terminal one can do too much ... 00:34 < rxr> guess what I told them ... 00:34 < mnemoc> o.o 00:34 < rxr> morfoh: well - I throw a new HD into the box some time soon and the the problem will be silenced ... 00:34 < morfoh> indeed this is a common "admin from hell" story :) 00:35 < mnemoc> rxr: what happened to ppc isos? 00:35 < rxr> should be there soon 00:35 < rxr> but I need to test them first anyway ... 00:36 < morfoh> rxr: mac-mini still building ? 00:36 < rxr> no tester around - susan is in south germany this weekend and valentin is playing with janna ... 00:36 < rxr> morfoh: built - rsyncing to uni ... 00:36 < morfoh> rxr: ic 00:38 < morfoh> .oO( when do we get rid for the need to build a bootdisk image for an ISO )o :p 00:38 < rxr> 49344128 Oct 22 13:02 usr/lib/locale/locale-archive 00:38 < rxr> ^- glibc biggest file 00:38 < rxr> morfoh: with 2.2 00:39 < morfoh> rxr: this sounds promising 00:39 < morfoh> ;) 00:39 < rxr> morfoh: this seperate bootdisk thing was a big feature of ROCK 1.7 / 2.0 ... 00:39 < mnemoc> live-ability and install-ability will be very nices things :) 00:40 < mnemoc> we need a real rescue target, but not mixed with the generic installer 00:40 < morfoh> mnemoc: sth. like the "Insert.cd" ? 00:41 < CIA-12> rene * r13197 /trunk/package/xorg/xproto/xproto.conf: * added font path links in xproto for lib64 00:41 < mnemoc> morfoh: maybe 00:41 < rxr> we need a cool on-cd firewall 00:41 < rxr> like: http://www.m0n0.ch/ or what it wasll 00:42 < rxr> http://www.m0n0.ch/wall/ 00:42 < morfoh> rxr: m0nowall 00:42 < mnemoc> rxr: having live-ability any cool target can get live 00:42 < morfoh> :) 00:44 < morfoh> rxr: I can try stripping down the live-cd target for such a use case ... or what do you think ? 00:44 < rxr> mnemoc: yeah - first I need to get the curren trunk:HEAD @live to boot agian 00:44 < rxr> it randomly hangs 00:44 < rxr> even on real hardware 00:44 < rxr> and then this annoying shadow / pam fluff ... 00:44 < rxr> that should be fixed now 00:44 < rxr> let's see how the requashed live behaves when it is ready in some minutes 00:45 < rxr> morfoh: yes - liek that 00:45 < rxr> with a cool web frontend 00:45 < rxr> try monowall it is quite nice 00:45 < rxr> (though I only saw it once and have not used it yet) 00:46 < morfoh> rxr: hmmm ... but do we need pam support on a firewall live cd ? 00:46 < morfoh> I think ... no 00:46 < CIA-12> rene * r13198 /trunk/target/livecd/build_image.sh: * removed du debug execution from livecd/build_image.sh - it only wasts time 00:47 < rxr> morfoh: yep - ack .. 00:47 < rxr> but I needed it fixed up anywa ,-) 00:47 < morfoh> rxr: of course ;) 00:51 < CIA-12> rene * r13199 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (etc_fstab.txt stone_mod_setup.sh): * use tmpfs for /dev/shm instead of ramfs, seems to be consensus thse days 00:52 < mnemoc> rxr: why /tmp as tmpfs is commented by default? 00:52 < rxr> oehm 00:52 < rxr> because some people might like to have it on disk ... 00:52 < rxr> no idea ... 00:53 < rxr> if we all want it tmpfs by default, ... ,-) 00:53 < rxr> should I ? 00:53 < mnemoc> i would also tmpfs /var/lock and /var/run 00:54 < mnemoc> intead of cleaning them on boot up 00:54 < rxr> ouehm 00:54 < rxr> no 00:54 < rxr> clean on boot we can if we do not yet 00:54 < mnemoc> find /var/lock /var/run /tmp -mindepth 1 -print0 2> /dev/null | xargs --null rm -rf 00:55 < CIA-12> rene * r13200 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (etc_fstab.txt stone_mod_setup.sh): * enavled tmpfs on /tmp by default 00:58 < rxr> argh 00:58 < rxr> this damn pam junk 00:58 < rxr> now it double free or corrupts glibc tells me ... 00:59 < rxr> though glibc 3.4-CVS now prints pretty backtraces in such cases and a memory map - nice ... 00:59 < rxr> not so nice that the next squashhs image is for the trash ... 00:59 < rxr> and it is middle of the night again ... 01:00 < morfoh> rxr: yep ... I have to go sleep very quickly ... have to get up early 01:00 -!- karasz[Away] [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:02 < morfoh> good night all together ... cu tomorrow 01:03 < CIA-12> amery * r13201 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayerplug-in/mplayerplug-in.conf: * fixed mplayerplug-in installer for current version 01:06 < mnemoc> gn8 morfoh 01:07 < rxr> yeah - n8 morfoh 01:09 < morfoh> yeah ... thx. same for you ;) 01:10 < rxr> http://www.digicamhistory.com/Sony Mav 81 sep.html 01:10 < rxr> ^- 1981 first digicam ? 01:11 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavica 01:11 < rxr> crazzy 01:12 < mnemoc> "which uses 8cm CD-R/CD-RW media" 01:13 < rxr> CCD size was 570 x 490 01:13 < rxr> nope - that are newers 01:13 < rxr> http://www.digicamhistory.com/1980_1983.html 01:13 < rxr> cd did not exist 1981 ... 01:13 < rxr> It recorded images on two-inch floppy disks 01:14 < rxr> Each image was recorded in its own single circle on the floppy disk that Sony called the ?Mavipak.? Up to fifty color photos could be stored on one Mavipak. 01:15 < rxr> did not imaggine someone sold digital cameras in 1981 ... 01:15 < mnemoc> :) 01:15 < mnemoc> $$? 01:17 < rxr> no idea 01:17 < rxr> at that time money was worth more anyway ... 01:21 < rxr> this regression annoy me unbelievable .. 01:21 < rxr> I just hunt others people crap down ... 01:25 < rxr> hm - my sub-notebooks has a bug 01:26 < rxr> when I hard power-down with 4s power button, it does not correct initialize the display and freezes on the next power-on, needs yet another forced down cycle ... 01:26 < rxr> strange 01:26 < rxr> what people solder together .... 01:27 < mnemoc> :( 01:28 < mnemoc> rxr: ooo should be ok now, it built on mnemosyne-desktop and on reference 01:28 < rxr> hm - latest login and/or pam is really touchy 01:28 < rxr> tends to segfault ... 01:29 < rxr> this f*ck'ed PLD Linux people hack too much on it 01:31 < mnemoc> PLD people on pam?? 01:32 < rxr> at least shadow 01:32 < rxr> mnemoc: all fine on your side ? 01:36 < mnemoc> in this instant, yes ... all good :) 01:40 < mnemoc> i'll try to trace mysqlcc/socat/openssl problem now 01:44 < rxr> ouhm - ok - partly init hanging might be caused by incomplete code on my side ... 01:45 < rxr> guess around 2 I start to crawl into bed ... 01:47 < rxr> hm - this subnotebook also does not return good stuff on DDC readout via this VESA extension used by this ddcxprobe s.th. 01:47 < CIA-12> amery * r13202 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ooo.desc: * added ooo [D]s to be able to build if mono support was detected 01:48 < mnemoc> nothing is perfect 01:48 < mnemoc> if something goes good, something has to go bad to compensate 01:51 < rxr> what do you reffer to right nwo ? 01:51 < rxr> now 01:52 < CIA-12> rene * r13203 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/ (xorg.conf.example xorg.conf.template): * fixed xorg.conf* to use xorg instead of xfree86 for XkbRules now 01:55 < CIA-12> rene * r13204 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg.postinstall: * fixed xorg.postinstall to not use X11R6, just X11 for the font path 01:55 * rxr in release polishing mode I would say ,-) 01:57 < mnemoc> i was talking about your sub-notebook.... it couldn't be that perfect :) 01:59 < CIA-12> rene * r13205 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/ (startxdm startxdm.sh xcfgt2.init xorg-server.conf): 01:59 < CIA-12> * renamed startxdm.sh to startxdm and install it as such 01:59 < CIA-12> * removed svn:executable property from xcfgt2.init 01:59 < rxr> it can 02:00 < rxr> look at those sgi boxes ,-) 02:00 < mnemoc> :-) 02:01 < CIA-12> rene * r13206 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xcfgt2.init: * marked xcfgt2.init to be run for runlevel 5 by default 02:03 < CIA-12> rene * r13207 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/sbin/ (. init.d/ init.d/system): * fixed livecd system init by patching out destructive chunks 02:05 < CIA-12> rene * r13208 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/etc/conf/ (. xdm): * enabled kdm as default xdm for the livecd 02:05 < rxr> well - I did all this once - but at that time it was not yet a full target and lost in the usual tinkering in a loose file-tree noise ... 02:05 < rxr> good that it is a real target this time ,-) 02:08 < mnemoc> :D 02:14 < CIA-12> amery * r13209 /branches/2.1/package/office/ooo/ (5 files): 02:14 < CIA-12> * merged 11726,13124,13130,13131,13149,13183 from trunk: updated ooo (1.9-m123 -> 2.0.0.1) 02:14 < CIA-12> * merged 13132,13150,13171,13172,13174,13182 from trunk: updated ooo/libwpd (0.8.2 -> 0.8.3) - and fixed it's support 02:14 < CIA-12> * merged 13202 from trunk: fixed mono support on ooo 02:21 < mnemoc> rxr: do you want to try uclibc on t2@live? :) 02:25 < rxr> nope 02:25 < rxr> not today 02:26 < rxr> tonight even 02:30 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has joined #t2 02:40 < CIA-12> rene * r13210 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/opt/ (6 files in 5 dirs): 02:40 < CIA-12> * kdm preconfiguration, such as autologin of the live user and 02:40 < CIA-12> anti-aliased fonts by default ,-) 02:41 < rxr> later on we need to invent some way to only inject this if the equivalent packages are selected 02:41 < rxr> or we patch such stuff into the packges and thus it only get's patched if the package is built ... 02:41 < rxr> but for now I overlay until the live in trunk has the preconfig the last live release had .. 02:48 < mnemoc> :) 02:49 < rxr> and then we can auto build a live every 14 days ,-) 02:50 < mnemoc> autop-build is like glibc snapshots every monday imo 02:56 < rxr> my plan is also to autobuild binary tarballs as soon as we have a sophisticated network installer / updater 02:56 < rxr> in theory we could also create isos of those autobuild files ... 02:56 < rxr> though we would loose a bit this "build in on piece" and "double check" feature 02:56 < rxr> but gain decrease build-time and have those binaries used in wider testing before the CD release 03:01 < rxr> ok - mre rebuilding large chunks of the livecd due to X11R6 crap that was imperfect at the time I build the target - thwat was October 23rd I think ... 03:10 -!- sparc-kly_ [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has joined #t2 03:11 -!- sparc-kly_ is now known as sparc-kly[G3] 03:14 -!- ojh [n=omer@209-181-59-24.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 03:23 < rxr> ok - /me into the bed now - way to late again ... 03:27 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:49 -!- ojh [n=omer@209-181-59-24.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 04:01 -!- sparc-kly[G3] [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:27 < mnemoc> gn8 05:39 -!- ojh [n=omer@209-181-59-24.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 07:32 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF8A5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 07:48 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFB7B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:15 < valentin> moin 09:22 < owl> hi valentin 09:22 < valentin> hi owl, how are you ? 09:23 < owl> valentin: too much alive i fear... so feeling like shit. thx, you? 09:25 < morfoh> moin owl + valentin 09:25 < owl> hi morfoh 09:27 < owl> .oO( dimmu borgir is a good choice for my playlist today - espcially for car... ) 09:34 < valentin> owl, good thanks 09:34 < valentin> listening to black metal ? no wonder you feel depressed :/ 09:36 < morfoh> .oO( why does owl feel like sh*t while feeling too much alive ? )o 09:36 < owl> valentin: yeah. listening to black metal sometimes ;) depression doesn't depend on music, but on my dead bird an stuff... 09:36 < owl> morfoh: because i had an alpmare - and now i am shivering over an hour because of it... 09:37 < owl> and fscking heavy headache (migraene) is coming again :( 09:38 < valentin> blastbeat and migrane don't mix .oO 09:38 < morfoh> owl: hmmmm ... I doubt that black metal is the right for fightinh migraene 09:39 < morfoh> no wonder that you had a nightmare 09:39 < owl> it does ;) i often have migraene if i am not able to cry or something. and music often helps. 09:39 < owl> morfoh: nah. i listened to no music the last days... ;) 09:39 < morfoh> but black metal ? 09:40 < owl> yeah, it's agressive, it's negative, it's full of hate etc... 09:40 < owl> black metal, highway & high speed 09:40 < owl> -> you should not drive the A9 today ;9 09:40 < morfoh> owl: I encourage you to not mix agressive music and car driving 09:40 < morfoh> + migraene 09:41 < owl> oh, i often did so... still everybody's alive ;9 09:41 < owl> migraine - it's still just upcoming. and i have a "date" with my doc today -> have to drive to him. 09:41 < owl> i just should have a look where my aspirin are, then i might stop the fscking upcoming migraene 09:58 < owl> so. i am afk. bbl. 10:09 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.133.149] has joined #t2 10:52 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178187169.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 10:52 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 10:52 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 4 16:55:33 2005] 10:52 [Users #t2] 10:52 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mtr] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 10:52 [ CIA-12 ] [ mnemoc] [ owl] [ sepp ] 10:52 [ geekitus] [ morfoh] [ rxr] [ SerWou] 10:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 10:52 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 10:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 10:54 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178191104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:25 < rxr_> re 11:26 -!- You're now known as rxr 11:32 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BED232.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 11:55 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 12:21 -!- Baldzius [n=mx@85.206.103.1] has joined #t2 12:21 < Baldzius> moin 12:32 < karasz> moin 12:55 < rxr> moin you both 13:05 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0511/41441.html 13:07 -!- madtux [i=manolo@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 13:07 < madtux> hello. 13:10 < rxr> hi miguel 13:10 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0511/41441.html 13:10 < rxr> ^- well done ,-) 13:10 < rxr> I think after a shower I try to push T2 1.1 to Germans biggest IT news site ... 13:11 < owl> re... 13:12 < owl> hi madtux *hug* 13:14 < karasz> re moin 13:14 < karasz> rxr bablefish translates that page in english? it is useless 13:14 < karasz> can you provide a 2 liner on that? 13:15 < karasz> :D `Distribution component system descends from skirt Linux` 13:16 < karasz> realyy? never haerd of skirt linux :D 13:19 < madtux> hallo rene 13:20 < madtux> greetings Eule 13:20 < owl> madtux: do you know my "clowns" already? ;) 13:21 < madtux> i do not, can i see your "clowns" please? 13:21 < madtux> :) 13:21 < owl> madtux: http://gallery.karnaya.de/v/tiere/wellensittiche/merlin_und_gandalf/ those both ;) 13:22 < rxr> karasz: it is a nice T2 2.1 overview, including some history - fork from rock e.g., and even some tiny technology details like rockplug rocknet and the upcoming u/dev hotplug++ stuff ... 13:22 < rxr> really nice 13:22 < rxr> PR machinery starting to roll ,-) 13:22 < madtux> what an amazing pair of "clowns" you have owl :) 13:23 < owl> rxr: where to read? *want to see your work* ;) 13:23 < owl> madtux: thx ;) 13:25 -!- madtux [i=manolo@pf0.hostarica.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:31 < rxr> valentin: the 13W3 adapter for my SPARC arrived and works ,-() 13:31 < rxr> one more CRT to throw away ... 13:57 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.212.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 14:02 < rxr> valentin: "SGI Octane 2x 195MHz 18GB HDD 768MB Ram Solid Impact" for 80EUR is mine now ,-) let's see how it performs - if MIPS is great I can get a Octane 2 later on then ,-) 14:04 < rxr> heise.de news submitted as well ... 14:16 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.223.203.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:26 < valentin> hi 14:32 < owl> rxr: "Rock Linux wurde 1998 von Clifford Wold " <- typo on golem... 14:38 < rxr> hehe - I have nothing to do with the article - it is theirs ... 14:38 < rxr> but IIRC there are many ocations of Wold in the ROCK sources - most probably cut'n paste from Clifford's material ... ,-) 14:39 < owl> *g* ok 14:41 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has joined #t2 14:43 < rxr> owl: they fixed it in the meantime anyway ,-) 14:43 < rxr> so - me washing dishes and then off to the airport to collect susan ... 14:45 < owl> rxr: ah. ok O_o bye rxr 14:46 < owl> .oO( "bringt von Hause aus"... great german...) 14:47 < owl> "installtions-CD" ... guys, are you sure they're your friends? O_o 14:53 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.45] has joined #t2 14:53 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.9] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:54 < rxr> cu 14:54 < menomc> moin! 15:00 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178160012.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 15:00 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0 RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 15:00 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Nov 4 16:55:33 2005] 15:00 [Users #t2] 15:00 [ _Ragnar_] [ geekitus] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ SerWou ] 15:00 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly] 15:00 [ CIA-12 ] [ karasz ] [ owl ] [ sepp_] [ valentin ] 15:00 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 15:00 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 15:00 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 15:00 < mnemoc> wb rxr_ 15:03 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178187169.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 15:26 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:27 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has joined #t2 15:42 -!- madtux [i=manolo@pf0.hostarica.com] has joined #t2 15:52 < mnemoc> what 'entwicklung' means? 15:52 < mnemoc> wb madtux-chan 15:52 < jsaw> development 15:52 < mnemoc> thanks 15:53 < madtux> mnemoc, "why do u ask questions when u already know the answers?" 15:53 < jsaw> hi madtux 15:53 < mnemoc> madtux: what question? 15:54 < madtux> entwicklung 15:54 < madtux> greetings jsaw :) 15:54 < mnemoc> if i would know i wouldn't ask 15:54 < mnemoc> leo is down 15:55 < madtux> mmm... "meditate on this... i will" 15:56 < jsaw> madtux.riddler 16:07 < jsaw> cu later 16:08 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 16:37 -!- karasz is now known as karasz[Away] 16:39 -!- karasz[Away] is now known as karasz 16:39 < karasz> re moin 16:39 < karasz> rxr are you around? 16:40 < karasz> hmmm nope 16:40 -!- karasz is now known as karasz[Away] 16:40 -!- lars____ [n=lars@port-212-202-41-64.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 16:43 < lars____> hi, anyone there, who can help me with some login failure issue on a freshly build t2 trunk? 16:43 < madtux> ask away 16:44 -!- karasz[Away] is now known as karasz 16:44 < lars____> root@paul:~# su kuhtz 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'MAIL_CHECK_ENAB' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'OBSCURE_CHECKS_ENAB' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'PORTTIME_CHECKS_ENAB' (notify administrator)configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator) 16:44 < valentin> hi lars 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'MOTD_FILE' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGINS_FILE' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MIN_LEN' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'SU_WHEEL_ONLY' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'CRACKLIB_DICTPATH' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_CHANGE_TRIES' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_ALWAYS_WARN' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'MD5_CRYPT_ENAB' (notify administrator) 16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'ENVIRON_FILE' (notify administrator) 16:44 < valentin> .oO 16:44 < lars____> Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied 16:44 < lars____> any idea? 16:44 < lars____> hi valentin, how are you and your family? 16:45 < valentin> maybe you grep for those tags in /etc/* and find out which config it rants about ? 16:45 < madtux> how about reinstalling coreutils and bash to begin? 16:45 < valentin> my family is good, thx 16:45 < valentin> how are your girls ? 16:45 < madtux> good day valentin 16:45 -!- karasz is now known as karasz[Away] 16:45 < valentin> hi madtux 16:46 -!- karasz[Away] is now known as karasz 16:46 < lars____> it belongs to login.defs. man login.defs states nothing about the mentioned config tags. But in my old t2 system they were present as well. 16:46 -!- karasz is now known as karasz[Away] 16:47 < lars____> and there they did not cause trouble. 16:47 < valentin> can you loggin the normal way via getty or so ? 16:47 < lars____> The system is a fresh build including bash and coreutils. 16:48 < madtux> no errors during install? 16:48 < valentin> you tried trunk ? there were many updates theese days 16:49 < lars____> I can login as root (the error logs apear anyhow) but a can not login as a nis user. If I login via su - kuhtz the error is "Unable to cd to "/home/kuhtz"". 16:50 < lars____> Yes, I tried trunk since I need a recent gcc here. I build fine so far with some minor issues. 16:50 < madtux> OH! 16:51 < madtux> lars____, did you check the permisions on /hom/kuhtz ? 16:51 < madtux> or that it exists at all? :) 16:51 < lars____> However, I think it is the only t2 build so far that makes use of optimization for pentium-m 16:51 < lars____> drwxr-xr-x 73 kuhtz kuhtz 8192 Nov 7 16:42 kuhtz 16:51 < madtux> mm... 16:52 < lars____> it is a nfs mount. but I can access is normaly as root. Maybe I should try to create a local user different from root and try how it behaves. 16:53 < madtux> give it a try 16:53 < valentin> to be honest, i have no idea how to fix that error 16:54 < lars____> root@paul:~# useradd -c "test user" -g users -m testuser 16:54 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator) 16:54 < lars____> ... 16:54 < madtux> WEIRD stuff 16:54 < lars____> seems that all programs that access login.defs produces those error output. 16:55 < mnemoc> shadow doesn't like you 16:55 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:55 < lars____> Ah, I can not login as testuser. So it is not related to nis. 16:56 < lars____> Same error as before: first the above list and then "Unable to cd to /home/testuser" 16:57 < mnemoc> strace ? 16:57 < mnemoc> does it exist? 16:58 < lars____> yes, shall I post it here to irc? 16:59 < lars____> ???? 16:59 < mnemoc> http://42.vg 17:00 < lars____> what is http://42.vg? 17:00 < mnemoc> a place to paste 17:02 < valentin> a pastebin concurent :) 17:04 * mnemoc on anti-imperialism mode :p 17:04 -!- karasz[Away] is now known as karasz 17:04 < valentin> why anti-imperialism ? 17:04 < mnemoc> php impire :) 17:05 < mnemoc> empire* 17:05 < valentin> i like 42 because it requires less input to create a bin 17:05 < mnemoc> ack 17:05 < mnemoc> pastebin is bloated and slow 17:05 < valentin> yep 17:07 < lars____> ok, I hope I was successfull (using links): search for nick "lars" and description "t2: strace of su" 17:08 < lars____> I hope there is no confidential stuff in that strace... 17:08 < valentin> http://42.vg/85836 17:08 < valentin> or is it 17:09 < valentin> no - the older one is empty 17:18 < valentin> cu later, will drive home now 17:18 < valentin> lars____: greetings to your family 17:20 < lars____> valentin: thanks. 17:20 < lars____> There was nothing helpfull in the strace? 17:39 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 17:40 -!- lars____ [n=lars@port-212-202-41-64.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit ["leaving"] 17:56 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:58 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 18:40 -!- Baldzius [n=mx@85.206.103.1] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:24 < mnemoc> F* F* F*! 19:24 < mnemoc> why the F* i don't learn to do backups! 19:24 < mnemoc> F* F* F*! 19:24 < mnemoc> F* F* F*! 19:24 < _Ragnar_> O_O 19:24 < _Ragnar_> what did you lose? 19:25 < mnemoc> rm -rf company_share_documents 19:25 < mnemoc> thinking it was umounted 19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*! 19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*! 19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*! 19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*! 19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*! 19:25 < _Ragnar_> ooops 19:25 < _Ragnar_> big ooops 19:26 * mnemoc about to cry 19:26 < mnemoc> damn reiserfs too 19:26 * _Ragnar_ hugs :/ 19:26 < _Ragnar_> ? 19:26 < mnemoc> you can't undelete on reiserfs 19:26 < _Ragnar_> oh yea 19:26 < _Ragnar_> hmmm 19:27 < _Ragnar_> wait, why not? 19:27 < mnemoc> tell me how 19:28 < _Ragnar_> the reiserfsck util *might* 19:30 < mnemoc> ? 19:33 < _Ragnar_> basically reiserfsck --rebuild-tree 19:37 < mnemoc> let's try 19:37 < mnemoc> bbl 19:37 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.45] has quit ["leaving"] 19:51 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:11 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.63] has joined #t2 20:11 < _Ragnar_> wb 20:12 < _Ragnar_> did it work? 20:12 < madtux> yeah wb mnesyne 20:14 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: no 20:14 < _Ragnar_> :/ 20:14 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: well... restored stuff from the partition... but not what i needed 20:15 < mnemoc> thanks anyway 20:15 < _Ragnar_> did you use --scan-whole-partition ? 20:15 < mnemoc> yes 20:15 < mnemoc> -S 20:15 -!- morfoh [n=jeru@p54BEE60C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 20:16 < _Ragnar_> :/ 20:17 < morfoh> moin 20:17 < _Ragnar_> http://www.antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments 20:17 < _Ragnar_> that may also help 20:17 < mnemoc> thnaks 20:18 < _Ragnar_> did you have anything in lost+found? 20:19 < mnemoc> drwx------ 4307 root root 1,9M 2005-11-07 15:46 lost+found/ <--- lot of stuff.... but mostly copies of kernel source 20:19 < mnemoc> i'll review one by one 20:19 < _Ragnar_> yea 20:19 < _Ragnar_> you'll not have any filenames there 20:21 < mnemoc> for x in *; do file $x; done > ../files.txt 20:21 < _Ragnar_> :) 20:24 < _Ragnar_> also, some files may be recovored in plare 20:24 < _Ragnar_> place* 20:25 < madtux> a rat in the channel i smell.. 20:26 < owl> hi madtux 20:26 < madtux> Eule :) 20:26 < morfoh> madtux: seems that your a** is burning :p 20:27 < morfoh> hi madtux :) 20:27 < madtux> hi morfoh .. how is it going ? 20:27 < owl> O_o 20:27 < owl> madtux: how was your meeting? *hides* ;) 20:28 < madtux> owl, it was cool, we missed a cup of your amazing poisoned coffee... but oh well... life is not perfect 20:28 < morfoh> madtux: quite ok .... thanks 20:29 < owl> madtux: *kick* i am not your waitress *even more kick* 20:30 < madtux> So let me get this straight... i can get to see picture of your pretty pair of "clowns", but i cannot get to taste your poisoned coffee? 20:31 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has joined #t2 20:31 < madtux> not fair :( 20:31 < owl> madtux: exactly ;) why is it not fair? :) just come over to germany :p 20:32 < owl> belive me - the hospital-place is yours ;) 20:32 < madtux> i've been enough time at hospitals 20:32 < owl> madtux: well, then you don't want me to make coffee or something *smile* 20:32 < madtux> lets get you out of the hospital and become the most famous pyromaniacs of the history 20:33 < madtux> owl, only mortals are affected by your poison... i have no worries. 20:33 < owl> madtux: nah ;) oh, i forgot - you're a zombie ;) 20:34 < madtux> besides maybe we can invite morfoh and have him taste it first... then depending on the chemical reaction i will decide if wether i will drink or not. 20:34 < madtux> vampire. 20:34 < owl> hehe. poor morfoh ;) 20:34 < madtux> mnemoc, download finished. 20:34 < owl> vampire. zombie. all the same dark creatures ;) 20:34 < madtux> almost 5 hours to download 381 mb.. geez 20:35 * owl should be quiet - wearing black and darkblue clothes ^^ 20:35 < madtux> owl, yeah... vampires, zombies, owls.. 20:35 < owl> madtux: pfffff :p 20:35 < madtux> like if you were not a child of the darkness.. 20:35 < madtux> mm... the chan is too quite.. 20:35 < madtux> owl i think u scared the people 20:35 < owl> heh, don't you remember my "pink" laptop? ;) 20:36 < owl> hehe, ack 20:36 < madtux> owl, your pink laptop was nothing but a desperate attempt to make people believe u are an inocent little girl. 20:36 < morfoh> madtux: why quiet ? ... I see lot of nice conversation here :p 20:36 < madtux> morfoh, feel free to join it :) 20:37 < owl> madtux: dammit. i just fall in love with it *cries* *sniff* bwahaaaaaaa - i want my pink laptop back :) 20:37 < morfoh> madtux: sorry ... I've to prepare my server 20:37 < morfoh> and want to do some testing 20:37 < owl> morfoh: enjoy it ;) 20:37 < morfoh> owl: thanks ;) 20:37 < owl> de nada 20:38 < karasz> re moin all 20:38 < owl> wb karasz 20:38 < karasz> hi owl :) 20:39 < madtux> what kind of server? 20:39 < morfoh> owl: btw, seems that your "visit" was quite helpful :p 20:39 < morfoh> hi karasz ;) 20:39 < madtux> owl, maybe to compensate the laptop lose you should start wearing white and pink 20:39 * madtux hides quickly 20:40 < owl> morfoh: visit? you mean of the doc? - nah. but the music... but still "hibbelig" 20:40 < owl> madtux: *kick* *scratch* 20:40 < morfoh> madtux: I have to do some major updates on my server, the one which provides trac.t2-project.org 20:41 < morfoh> and some other stuff 20:41 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CE24A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 20:42 < morfoh> owl: I guess if you're "hibbelig" madtux is the right companero to talk to ;) 20:42 < karasz> sorry but my brain has some lag right now 20:43 < karasz> i can not respond quickly :( 20:43 < morfoh> karasz: what happened ? 20:43 < madtux> morfoh, hibbeling ? 20:43 < owl> morfoh: yeah, i know ;) 20:43 < madtux> wtf id hibbeling? 20:43 < morfoh> madtux: ask owlita :) 20:43 < karasz> morfoh I banged my head against DB2 instalation on Linux 20:43 < owl> madtux: like being nervous... but more than that... going up, and down, and up and down and not being able to calm down 20:44 < madtux> hey! owlita is an exclusive term of mine to refer to Sandra Eule Dismar 20:44 < madtux> so u are saying i am like kinda crazy? 20:44 < owl> madtux: nah, but good to talk to ;) 20:45 < madtux> well u know me... when i have the time to talk i can help people get out of the boring routine 20:45 < morfoh> madtux: do you have a patent on "owlita" ? :p 20:45 < morfoh> madtux: and anyway ... the first time I heard it was from master himself ;) 20:45 < madtux> morfoh, of course. 20:45 < madtux> master?! 20:45 < madtux> who is master? 20:46 < madtux> are u talking about our "geil" friend mnemoc ? 20:46 < morfoh> madtux: this cannot be true ... 20:46 < morfoh> madtux: did you used "geil" already ? 20:46 < madtux> a long time ago. 20:47 < morfoh> madtux: I guess you know the meaning 20:47 < madtux> yes i do. 20:47 < madtux> or i hope so... i believe there are 2 meanings 20:47 < madtux> anyways i only have intention of teasing 20:47 < morfoh> madtux: we all know ;) 20:49 < karasz> :D 20:50 < karasz> finaly 20:50 < karasz> my db2 setup is completed :D :D 20:50 < morfoh> karasz: :) 20:50 < karasz> it IS a nightmare 20:51 < karasz> my guess is that all DB makers except PostgreSQL are morons 20:52 < karasz> btw morfoh how are you? 20:52 < karasz> are you healthy again? 20:52 < morfoh> karasz: good thank you ... at least on the road to feel better :) 20:53 < karasz> glad to hear that :) 20:53 < morfoh> karasz: yeah ... :) 20:54 < karasz> how is the new T2 site commin' along? 20:58 < morfoh> karasz: already ... configuring and testing the updated image of my server ;) 20:58 < karasz> when wil be the launch? 21:00 < karasz> what happened to rxr? 21:00 < karasz> i didn't "saw" him today 21:00 < morfoh> I hoped to update the server this evening but I can't because I've go sleep earlier, but there is no official launch date of the site 21:02 < morfoh> karasz: I guess rxr has some courses at the uni on monday 21:03 < karasz> what uni is that? 21:06 < karasz> tfh? 21:06 < morfoh> karasz: yes 21:14 < rxr_> re 21:14 < morfoh> hi rxr_ :) 21:18 -!- You're now known as rxr 21:18 < rxr> mnemoc: around ? 21:19 < mnemoc> kind of 21:22 < rxr> read your data rm -rf - still working on it ? 21:23 < mnemoc> yes 21:24 < karasz> moin rxr 21:52 < rxr> mnemoc: I had something to discuss but I guess you are busy then 21:57 < mnemoc> rxr: start talking on query, i'll read and answer soon 22:25 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.248.53] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:51 < MisterN> n8 22:51 -!- MisterN [n=MrN@p549CE24A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Wieso gibt es keine guten Quitmessages? Jaja, diese ist auch doof."] 22:54 < karasz> n8 MisterN 22:59 -!- geekitus [n=geekitus@83.179.133.149] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:14 < rxr> mnemoc: it was not secret stuff - only about pkgsel - I convert the generic target package selections to include eachother and to new-style pkgsel - however I noticed X LIBC does not work and wanted to discuss about that 23:14 < rxr> mnemoc: but first do you recovery - I also do too few backups ... :-( 23:14 < rxr> mnemoc: I commit the improvements in the maintime - how to deal with stuff like glibc, glibc32 that should default to the platform default in such configs can be done later 23:15 * rxr preparing for bed (susan is back - so more normal sleep cycle on my side 23:15 < rxr> but I'll commit those pkgsel changes before I fall asleep 23:15 < rxr> cu then 23:32 < CIA-12> rene * r13212 /trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 23:32 < CIA-12> * implemented an include statement for pkgsel files 23:32 < CIA-12> * used includes to base the minimal-desktop on minimal-xorg and that 23:32 < CIA-12> on minimal 23:34 < CIA-12> rene * r13213 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: 23:34 < CIA-12> * fixed Emerge-Pkg for multiple packages (dump typo) and added a 23:34 < CIA-12> -debug switch to enable debuging output without editing the script 23:39 < CIA-12> rene * r13214 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/ (6 files): * renamed pkgsel files to allow a sane order in the UI 23:42 < karasz> rxr what do we need from openpower? 23:43 < karasz> i mean should i save something? 23:43 < karasz> or it is all commited to 2.1 or trunk...? 23:59 < mnemoc> re 23:59 < karasz> hi mnemoc --- Log closed Tue Nov 08 00:00:03 2005