--- Log opened Mon Nov 07 00:00:13 2005
--- Day changed Mon Nov 07 2005
00:00 < morfoh> after closing and restarting it seems to behave well again
00:01 < rxr> hm
00:01 < CIA-12> rene * r13194 /trunk/package/base/shadow/ (login.defs login_defs.patch nullok.patch shadow.conf):
00:01 < CIA-12> * further fixed latest shadow (junk) by supplying a full login.defs
00:01 < CIA-12> (taken from Fedora Core) because the default one contains options
00:01 < CIA-12> that are no longer vailed when built with PAM support
00:01 < CIA-12> * allow a blank password by default
00:03 < CIA-12> rene * r13195 /trunk/misc/target/functions.in:
00:03 < CIA-12> * disabled debug logging in the live-cd used target/functions.in
00:03 < CIA-12> * removed reverse patch apply attempt from times when the rootfs
00:03 < CIA-12> creation of the live cd was not done with rsync
00:05 < CIA-12> rene * r13196 /trunk/package/e17/entrance/entrance.conf: * fixed entrance Xsession path for lib64
00:07 < mnemoc> == 11:48:20 =[5]=> Building office/ooo [2.0.0.1 2.1-stable].
00:07 < mnemoc> == 11/06/05 17:01:33 =[5]=> Finished building package ooo.
00:07 < mnemoc> ^---- java less
00:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: not bad :)
00:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, I think we can add minimal-axp 2.1.0 iso's tomorrow
00:10 < mnemoc> :)
00:10 < mnemoc> what about LP?
00:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'm currently working on a server update which I suppose to install tomorrow too
00:12 < mnemoc> great :)
00:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: yep :)
00:20 < rxr> LP ?
00:20 < morfoh> rxr: LinguaPlone
00:20 < rxr> morfoh: btw. why do you thing we need athlon-xp isos online
00:20 < rxr> ? even
00:20 < morfoh> i18n support
00:20 < morfoh> rxr: I just build them for my use and for some friends
00:21 < morfoh> if you don't see a need for them we don't have to upload .... no problem
00:22 < morfoh> but I guess someone else likes to use it too ... I just want to share the stuf
00:24 < mnemoc> rxr: sparkly was trying to get a authorization for a 'mirror' on his university. and they use mainly athlonxp. i think we could balance the load between gsmp for core archs and other places for other interesting flavors
00:24 < rxr> morfoh: the problem is we have not infinite upload
00:24 < rxr> the uni pays incomming traffic - but not outgoing ...
00:25 < rxr> though you could inject them when you are there with a wifi account (I could hand you) on your monday's spart sessions ,-)
00:25 < morfoh> rxr: ic ... and I know we need some alternatives besides the Uni
00:25 < morfoh> rxr: ok
00:26 < rxr> morfoh: well - even if we have more when time comes I think the main mirrors should have all main files
00:26 < rxr> otherwise you just keep in some loop searching for the file you want
00:27 < mnemoc> not if we have a 'page' with the right links
00:27 < mnemoc> instead of browsing apache's autoindex
00:27 < morfoh> rxr: then this seems to be a "use case" for t2-powered.net ... providing some additional iso's
00:27 < rxr> well - then I would group them by arch: x86.iso.t2-powered.net
00:27 < rxr> powerpc.iso.t2-powered.net
00:27 < rxr> ...
00:27 < rxr> ,-)
00:28 < morfoh> anyway ... I find it useful to provide as much as arch's as possible with an official release
00:28 < morfoh> ;)
00:28 < rxr> though maybe we should explore bitorrent and such
00:28 < mnemoc> i tried, wiithout any support
00:28 < morfoh> rxr: I guess mnemoc will jump around ;)
00:28 < morfoh> :)
00:29 < rxr> mnemoc: I have no spare HD space on my RS6K router ...
00:29 < rxr> and the uni blocks the ports I would need to seed from there ...
00:29 < rxr> and so on ...
00:29 < rxr> exactcode.de is also running on low-HD
00:29 < rxr> 433508 99% /home 8-\
00:30 < rxr> btw. notify the next time svn returns BDB can not lock file out of space -)
00:30 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll setup a bt permanently on my server then
00:30 < morfoh> hopefully it will not "burn" my whoe bandwidth
00:31 < mnemoc> [ target ][ version ][ arch ][ dl1 ][ dl2 ][ dl3 ][ torrent ]
00:31 < mnemoc> [ target ][ version ][ arch ][ dl1 ][ dl2 ][ --- ][ torrent ]
00:31 < mnemoc> [ target ][ version ][ arch ][ --- ][ dl2 ][ --- ][ torrent ]
00:32 < morfoh> rxr: I guess Aldas and me notified you immediately after detecting the problem ... or should I call at 1 o'clock ? ;)
00:32 < mnemoc> with simple filtering
00:32 < rxr> morfoh: well - depends - when I was around some mintues before then yes - if I left on 10 then not ...
00:32 < morfoh> ok :)
00:33 < rxr> morfoh: well - now that I'm officially a student there again I "could" ask if I get those ports for those box
00:33 < rxr> however I was not too friendly to the admin that disabled the Terminal.app on the Mac OSX boxes ...
00:33 < rxr> so chances are not too good ...
00:33 < morfoh> rxr: what about setting up a small "Monitoring" tool ... sending you an SMS if problems occur ? ;)
00:33 < rxr> mnemoc: they disables the Terminal.app on OS suX boxes for "enhanced security"
00:34 < rxr> mnemoc: in a terminal one can do too much ...
00:34 < rxr> guess what I told them ...
00:34 < mnemoc> o.o
00:34 < rxr> morfoh: well - I throw a new HD into the box some time soon and the the problem will be silenced ...
00:34 < morfoh> indeed this is a common "admin from hell" story :)
00:35 < mnemoc> rxr: what happened to ppc isos?
00:35 < rxr> should be there soon
00:35 < rxr> but I need to test them first anyway ...
00:36 < morfoh> rxr: mac-mini still building ?
00:36 < rxr> no tester around - susan is in south germany this weekend and valentin is playing with janna ...
00:36 < rxr> morfoh: built - rsyncing to uni ...
00:36 < morfoh> rxr: ic
00:38 < morfoh> .oO( when do we get rid for the need to build a bootdisk image for an ISO )o :p
00:38 < rxr> 49344128 Oct 22 13:02 usr/lib/locale/locale-archive
00:38 < rxr> ^- glibc biggest file
00:38 < rxr> morfoh: with 2.2
00:39 < morfoh> rxr: this sounds promising
00:39 < morfoh> ;)
00:39 < rxr> morfoh: this seperate bootdisk thing was a big feature of ROCK 1.7 / 2.0 ...
00:39 < mnemoc> live-ability and install-ability will be very nices things :)
00:40 < mnemoc> we need a real rescue target, but not mixed with the generic installer
00:40 < morfoh> mnemoc: sth. like the "Insert.cd" ?
00:41 < CIA-12> rene * r13197 /trunk/package/xorg/xproto/xproto.conf: * added font path links in xproto for lib64
00:41 < mnemoc> morfoh: maybe
00:41 < rxr> we need a cool on-cd firewall
00:41 < rxr> like: http://www.m0n0.ch/ or what it wasll
00:42 < rxr> http://www.m0n0.ch/wall/
00:42 < morfoh> rxr: m0nowall
00:42 < mnemoc> rxr: having live-ability any cool target can get live
00:42 < morfoh> :)
00:44 < morfoh> rxr: I can try stripping down the live-cd target for such a use case ... or what do you think ?
00:44 < rxr> mnemoc: yeah - first I need to get the curren trunk:HEAD @live to boot agian
00:44 < rxr> it randomly hangs
00:44 < rxr> even on real hardware
00:44 < rxr> and then this annoying shadow / pam fluff ...
00:44 < rxr> that should be fixed now
00:44 < rxr> let's see how the requashed live behaves when it is ready in some minutes
00:45 < rxr> morfoh: yes - liek that
00:45 < rxr> with a cool web frontend
00:45 < rxr> try monowall it is quite nice
00:45 < rxr> (though I only saw it once and have not used it yet)
00:46 < morfoh> rxr: hmmm ... but do we need pam support on a firewall live cd ?
00:46 < morfoh> I think ... no
00:46 < CIA-12> rene * r13198 /trunk/target/livecd/build_image.sh: * removed du debug execution from livecd/build_image.sh - it only wasts time
00:47 < rxr> morfoh: yep - ack ..
00:47 < rxr> but I needed it fixed up anywa ,-)
00:47 < morfoh> rxr: of course ;)
00:51 < CIA-12> rene * r13199 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (etc_fstab.txt stone_mod_setup.sh): * use tmpfs for /dev/shm instead of ramfs, seems to be consensus thse days
00:52 < mnemoc> rxr: why /tmp as tmpfs is commented by default?
00:52 < rxr> oehm
00:52 < rxr> because some people might like to have it on disk ...
00:52 < rxr> no idea ...
00:53 < rxr> if we all want it tmpfs by default, ... ,-)
00:53 < rxr> should I ?
00:53 < mnemoc> i would also tmpfs /var/lock and /var/run
00:54 < mnemoc> intead of cleaning them on boot up
00:54 < rxr> ouehm
00:54 < rxr> no
00:54 < rxr> clean on boot we can if we do not yet
00:54 < mnemoc> find /var/lock /var/run /tmp -mindepth 1 -print0 2> /dev/null | xargs --null rm -rf
00:55 < CIA-12> rene * r13200 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (etc_fstab.txt stone_mod_setup.sh): * enavled tmpfs on /tmp by default
00:58 < rxr> argh
00:58 < rxr> this damn pam junk
00:58 < rxr> now it double free or corrupts glibc tells me ...
00:59 < rxr> though glibc 3.4-CVS now prints pretty backtraces in such cases and a memory map - nice ...
00:59 < rxr> not so nice that the next squashhs image is for the trash ...
00:59 < rxr> and it is middle of the night again ...
01:00 < morfoh> rxr: yep ... I have to go sleep very quickly ... have to get up early
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01:02 < morfoh> good night all together ... cu tomorrow
01:03 < CIA-12> amery * r13201 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayerplug-in/mplayerplug-in.conf: * fixed mplayerplug-in installer for current version
01:06 < mnemoc> gn8 morfoh
01:07 < rxr> yeah - n8 morfoh
01:09 < morfoh> yeah ... thx. same for you ;)
01:10 < rxr> http://www.digicamhistory.com/Sony Mav 81 sep.html
01:10 < rxr> ^- 1981 first digicam ?
01:11 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavica
01:11 < rxr> crazzy
01:12 < mnemoc> "which uses 8cm CD-R/CD-RW media"
01:13 < rxr> CCD size was 570 x 490
01:13 < rxr> nope - that are newers
01:13 < rxr> http://www.digicamhistory.com/1980_1983.html
01:13 < rxr> cd did not exist 1981 ...
01:13 < rxr> It recorded images on two-inch floppy disks
01:14 < rxr> Each image was recorded in its own single circle on the floppy disk that Sony called the ?Mavipak.? Up to fifty color photos could be stored on one Mavipak.
01:15 < rxr> did not imaggine someone sold digital cameras in 1981 ...
01:15 < mnemoc> :)
01:15 < mnemoc> $$?
01:17 < rxr> no idea
01:17 < rxr> at that time money was worth more anyway ...
01:21 < rxr> this regression annoy me unbelievable ..
01:21 < rxr> I just hunt others people crap down ...
01:25 < rxr> hm - my sub-notebooks has a bug
01:26 < rxr> when I hard power-down with 4s power button, it does not correct initialize the display and freezes on the next power-on, needs yet another forced down cycle ...
01:26 < rxr> strange
01:26 < rxr> what people solder together ....
01:27 < mnemoc> :(
01:28 < mnemoc> rxr: ooo should be ok now, it built on mnemosyne-desktop and on reference
01:28 < rxr> hm - latest login and/or pam is really touchy
01:28 < rxr> tends to segfault ...
01:29 < rxr> this f*ck'ed PLD Linux people hack too much on it
01:31 < mnemoc> PLD people on pam??
01:32 < rxr> at least shadow
01:32 < rxr> mnemoc: all fine on your side ?
01:36 < mnemoc> in this instant, yes ... all good :)
01:40 < mnemoc> i'll try to trace mysqlcc/socat/openssl problem now
01:44 < rxr> ouhm - ok - partly init hanging might be caused by incomplete code on my side ...
01:45 < rxr> guess around 2 I start to crawl into bed ...
01:47 < rxr> hm - this subnotebook also does not return good stuff on DDC readout via this VESA extension used by this ddcxprobe s.th.
01:47 < CIA-12> amery * r13202 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ooo.desc: * added ooo [D]s to be able to build if mono support was detected
01:48 < mnemoc> nothing is perfect
01:48 < mnemoc> if something goes good, something has to go bad to compensate
01:51 < rxr> what do you reffer to right nwo ?
01:51 < rxr> now
01:52 < CIA-12> rene * r13203 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/ (xorg.conf.example xorg.conf.template): * fixed xorg.conf* to use xorg instead of xfree86 for XkbRules now
01:55 < CIA-12> rene * r13204 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg.postinstall: * fixed xorg.postinstall to not use X11R6, just X11 for the font path
01:55 * rxr in release polishing mode I would say ,-)
01:57 < mnemoc> i was talking about your sub-notebook.... it couldn't be that perfect :)
01:59 < CIA-12> rene * r13205 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/ (startxdm startxdm.sh xcfgt2.init xorg-server.conf):
01:59 < CIA-12> * renamed startxdm.sh to startxdm and install it as such
01:59 < CIA-12> * removed svn:executable property from xcfgt2.init
01:59 < rxr> it can
02:00 < rxr> look at those sgi boxes ,-)
02:00 < mnemoc> :-)
02:01 < CIA-12> rene * r13206 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xcfgt2.init: * marked xcfgt2.init to be run for runlevel 5 by default
02:03 < CIA-12> rene * r13207 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/sbin/ (. init.d/ init.d/system): * fixed livecd system init by patching out destructive chunks
02:05 < CIA-12> rene * r13208 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/etc/conf/ (. xdm): * enabled kdm as default xdm for the livecd
02:05 < rxr> well - I did all this once - but at that time it was not yet a full target and lost in the usual tinkering in a loose file-tree noise ...
02:05 < rxr> good that it is a real target this time ,-)
02:08 < mnemoc> :D
02:14 < CIA-12> amery * r13209 /branches/2.1/package/office/ooo/ (5 files):
02:14 < CIA-12> * merged 11726,13124,13130,13131,13149,13183 from trunk: updated ooo (1.9-m123 -> 2.0.0.1)
02:14 < CIA-12> * merged 13132,13150,13171,13172,13174,13182 from trunk: updated ooo/libwpd (0.8.2 -> 0.8.3) - and fixed it's support
02:14 < CIA-12> * merged 13202 from trunk: fixed mono support on ooo
02:21 < mnemoc> rxr: do you want to try uclibc on t2@live? :)
02:25 < rxr> nope
02:25 < rxr> not today
02:26 < rxr> tonight even
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02:40 < CIA-12> rene * r13210 /trunk/target/livecd/rootfs/opt/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
02:40 < CIA-12> * kdm preconfiguration, such as autologin of the live user and
02:40 < CIA-12> anti-aliased fonts by default ,-)
02:41 < rxr> later on we need to invent some way to only inject this if the equivalent packages are selected
02:41 < rxr> or we patch such stuff into the packges and thus it only get's patched if the package is built ...
02:41 < rxr> but for now I overlay until the live in trunk has the preconfig the last live release had ..
02:48 < mnemoc> :)
02:49 < rxr> and then we can auto build a live every 14 days ,-)
02:50 < mnemoc> autop-build is like glibc snapshots every monday imo
02:56 < rxr> my plan is also to autobuild binary tarballs as soon as we have a sophisticated network installer / updater
02:56 < rxr> in theory we could also create isos of those autobuild files ...
02:56 < rxr> though we would loose a bit this "build in on piece" and "double check" feature
02:56 < rxr> but gain decrease build-time and have those binaries used in wider testing before the CD release
03:01 < rxr> ok - mre rebuilding large chunks of the livecd due to X11R6 crap that was imperfect at the time I build the target - thwat was October 23rd I think ...
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03:23 < rxr> ok - /me into the bed now - way to late again ...
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04:27 < mnemoc> gn8
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09:15 < valentin> moin
09:22 < owl> hi valentin
09:22 < valentin> hi owl, how are you ?
09:23 < owl> valentin: too much alive i fear... so feeling like shit. thx, you?
09:25 < morfoh> moin owl + valentin
09:25 < owl> hi morfoh
09:27 < owl> .oO( dimmu borgir is a good choice for my playlist today - espcially for car... )
09:34 < valentin> owl, good thanks
09:34 < valentin> listening to black metal ? no wonder you feel depressed :/
09:36 < morfoh> .oO( why does owl feel like sh*t while feeling too much alive ? )o
09:36 < owl> valentin: yeah. listening to black metal sometimes ;) depression doesn't depend on music, but on my dead bird an stuff...
09:36 < owl> morfoh: because i had an alpmare - and now i am shivering over an hour because of it...
09:37 < owl> and fscking heavy headache (migraene) is coming again :(
09:38 < valentin> blastbeat and migrane don't mix .oO
09:38 < morfoh> owl: hmmmm ... I doubt that black metal is the right for fightinh migraene
09:39 < morfoh> no wonder that you had a nightmare
09:39 < owl> it does ;) i often have migraene if i am not able to cry or something. and music often helps.
09:39 < owl> morfoh: nah. i listened to no music the last days... ;)
09:39 < morfoh> but black metal ?
09:40 < owl> yeah, it's agressive, it's negative, it's full of hate etc...
09:40 < owl> black metal, highway & high speed
09:40 < owl> -> you should not drive the A9 today ;9
09:40 < morfoh> owl: I encourage you to not mix agressive music and car driving
09:40 < morfoh> + migraene
09:41 < owl> oh, i often did so... still everybody's alive ;9
09:41 < owl> migraine - it's still just upcoming. and i have a "date" with my doc today -> have to drive to him.
09:41 < owl> i just should have a look where my aspirin are, then i might stop the fscking upcoming migraene
09:58 < owl> so. i am afk. bbl.
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11:25 < rxr_> re
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12:21 < Baldzius> moin
12:32 < karasz> moin
12:55 < rxr> moin you both
13:05 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0511/41441.html
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13:07 < madtux> hello.
13:10 < rxr> hi miguel
13:10 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0511/41441.html
13:10 < rxr> ^- well done ,-)
13:10 < rxr> I think after a shower I try to push T2 1.1 to Germans biggest IT news site ...
13:11 < owl> re...
13:12 < owl> hi madtux *hug*
13:14 < karasz> re moin
13:14 < karasz> rxr bablefish translates that page in english? it is useless
13:14 < karasz> can you provide a 2 liner on that?
13:15 < karasz> :D `Distribution component system descends from skirt Linux`
13:16 < karasz> realyy? never haerd of skirt linux :D
13:19 < madtux> hallo rene
13:20 < madtux> greetings Eule
13:20 < owl> madtux: do you know my "clowns" already? ;)
13:21 < madtux> i do not, can i see your "clowns" please?
13:21 < madtux> :)
13:21 < owl> madtux: http://gallery.karnaya.de/v/tiere/wellensittiche/merlin_und_gandalf/ those both ;)
13:22 < rxr> karasz: it is a nice T2 2.1 overview, including some history - fork from rock e.g., and even some tiny technology details like rockplug rocknet and the upcoming u/dev hotplug++ stuff ...
13:22 < rxr> really nice
13:22 < rxr> PR machinery starting to roll ,-)
13:22 < madtux> what an amazing pair of "clowns" you have owl :)
13:23 < owl> rxr: where to read? *want to see your work* ;)
13:23 < owl> madtux: thx ;)
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13:31 < rxr> valentin: the 13W3 adapter for my SPARC arrived and works ,-()
13:31 < rxr> one more CRT to throw away ...
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14:02 < rxr> valentin: "SGI Octane 2x 195MHz 18GB HDD 768MB Ram Solid Impact" for 80EUR is mine now ,-) let's see how it performs - if MIPS is great I can get a Octane 2 later on then ,-)
14:04 < rxr> heise.de news submitted as well ...
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14:26 < valentin> hi
14:32 < owl> rxr: "Rock Linux wurde 1998 von Clifford Wold " <- typo on golem...
14:38 < rxr> hehe - I have nothing to do with the article - it is theirs ...
14:38 < rxr> but IIRC there are many ocations of Wold in the ROCK sources - most probably cut'n paste from Clifford's material ... ,-)
14:39 < owl> *g* ok
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14:43 < rxr> owl: they fixed it in the meantime anyway ,-)
14:43 < rxr> so - me washing dishes and then off to the airport to collect susan ...
14:45 < owl> rxr: ah. ok O_o bye rxr
14:46 < owl> .oO( "bringt von Hause aus"... great german...)
14:47 < owl> "installtions-CD" ... guys, are you sure they're your friends? O_o
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14:54 < rxr> cu
14:54 < menomc> moin!
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15:00 < mnemoc> wb rxr_
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15:52 < mnemoc> what 'entwicklung' means?
15:52 < mnemoc> wb madtux-chan
15:52 < jsaw> development
15:52 < mnemoc> thanks
15:53 < madtux> mnemoc, "why do u ask questions when u already know the answers?"
15:53 < jsaw> hi madtux
15:53 < mnemoc> madtux: what question?
15:54 < madtux> entwicklung
15:54 < madtux> greetings jsaw :)
15:54 < mnemoc> if i would know i wouldn't ask
15:54 < mnemoc> leo is down
15:55 < madtux> mmm... "meditate on this... i will"
15:56 < jsaw> madtux.riddler
16:07 < jsaw> cu later
16:08 < mnemoc> cu jsaw
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16:39 < karasz> re moin
16:39 < karasz> rxr are you around?
16:40 < karasz> hmmm nope
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16:43 < lars____> hi, anyone there, who can help me with some login failure issue on a freshly build t2 trunk?
16:43 < madtux> ask away
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16:44 < lars____> root@paul:~# su kuhtz
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'MAIL_CHECK_ENAB' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'OBSCURE_CHECKS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'PORTTIME_CHECKS_ENAB' (notify administrator)configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)
16:44 < valentin> hi lars
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'MOTD_FILE' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'FTMP_FILE' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'NOLOGINS_FILE' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'ENV_HZ' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_MIN_LEN' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'SU_WHEEL_ONLY' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'CRACKLIB_DICTPATH' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_CHANGE_TRIES' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'PASS_ALWAYS_WARN' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'CHFN_AUTH' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'MD5_CRYPT_ENAB' (notify administrator)
16:44 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'ENVIRON_FILE' (notify administrator)
16:44 < valentin> .oO
16:44 < lars____> Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied
16:44 < lars____> any idea?
16:44 < lars____> hi valentin, how are you and your family?
16:45 < valentin> maybe you grep for those tags in /etc/* and find out which config it rants about ?
16:45 < madtux> how about reinstalling coreutils and bash to begin?
16:45 < valentin> my family is good, thx
16:45 < valentin> how are your girls ?
16:45 < madtux> good day valentin
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16:45 < valentin> hi madtux
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16:46 < lars____> it belongs to login.defs. man login.defs states nothing about the mentioned config tags. But in my old t2 system they were present as well.
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16:47 < lars____> and there they did not cause trouble.
16:47 < valentin> can you loggin the normal way via getty or so ?
16:47 < lars____> The system is a fresh build including bash and coreutils.
16:48 < madtux> no errors during install?
16:48 < valentin> you tried trunk ? there were many updates theese days
16:49 < lars____> I can login as root (the error logs apear anyhow) but a can not login as a nis user. If I login via su - kuhtz the error is "Unable to cd to "/home/kuhtz"".
16:50 < lars____> Yes, I tried trunk since I need a recent gcc here. I build fine so far with some minor issues.
16:50 < madtux> OH!
16:51 < madtux> lars____, did you check the permisions on /hom/kuhtz ?
16:51 < madtux> or that it exists at all? :)
16:51 < lars____> However, I think it is the only t2 build so far that makes use of optimization for pentium-m
16:51 < lars____> drwxr-xr-x 73 kuhtz kuhtz 8192 Nov 7 16:42 kuhtz
16:51 < madtux> mm...
16:52 < lars____> it is a nfs mount. but I can access is normaly as root. Maybe I should try to create a local user different from root and try how it behaves.
16:53 < madtux> give it a try
16:53 < valentin> to be honest, i have no idea how to fix that error
16:54 < lars____> root@paul:~# useradd -c "test user" -g users -m testuser
16:54 < lars____> configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify administrator)
16:54 < lars____> ...
16:54 < madtux> WEIRD stuff
16:54 < lars____> seems that all programs that access login.defs produces those error output.
16:55 < mnemoc> shadow doesn't like you
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16:55 < lars____> Ah, I can not login as testuser. So it is not related to nis.
16:56 < lars____> Same error as before: first the above list and then "Unable to cd to /home/testuser"
16:57 < mnemoc> strace ?
16:57 < mnemoc> does it exist?
16:58 < lars____> yes, shall I post it here to irc?
16:59 < lars____> ????
16:59 < mnemoc> http://42.vg
17:00 < lars____> what is http://42.vg?
17:00 < mnemoc> a place to paste
17:02 < valentin> a pastebin concurent :)
17:04 * mnemoc on anti-imperialism mode :p
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17:04 < valentin> why anti-imperialism ?
17:04 < mnemoc> php impire :)
17:05 < mnemoc> empire*
17:05 < valentin> i like 42 because it requires less input to create a bin
17:05 < mnemoc> ack
17:05 < mnemoc> pastebin is bloated and slow
17:05 < valentin> yep
17:07 < lars____> ok, I hope I was successfull (using links): search for nick "lars" and description "t2: strace of su"
17:08 < lars____> I hope there is no confidential stuff in that strace...
17:08 < valentin> http://42.vg/85836
17:08 < valentin> or is it
17:09 < valentin> no - the older one is empty
17:18 < valentin> cu later, will drive home now
17:18 < valentin> lars____: greetings to your family
17:20 < lars____> valentin: thanks.
17:20 < lars____> There was nothing helpfull in the strace?
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19:24 < mnemoc> F* F* F*!
19:24 < mnemoc> why the F* i don't learn to do backups!
19:24 < mnemoc> F* F* F*!
19:24 < mnemoc> F* F* F*!
19:24 < _Ragnar_> O_O
19:24 < _Ragnar_> what did you lose?
19:25 < mnemoc> rm -rf company_share_documents
19:25 < mnemoc> thinking it was umounted
19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*!
19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*!
19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*!
19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*!
19:25 < mnemoc> F* F* F*!
19:25 < _Ragnar_> ooops
19:25 < _Ragnar_> big ooops
19:26 * mnemoc about to cry
19:26 < mnemoc> damn reiserfs too
19:26 * _Ragnar_ hugs :/
19:26 < _Ragnar_> ?
19:26 < mnemoc> you can't undelete on reiserfs
19:26 < _Ragnar_> oh yea
19:26 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
19:27 < _Ragnar_> wait, why not?
19:27 < mnemoc> tell me how
19:28 < _Ragnar_> the reiserfsck util *might*
19:30 < mnemoc> ?
19:33 < _Ragnar_> basically reiserfsck --rebuild-tree
19:37 < mnemoc> let's try
19:37 < mnemoc> bbl
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20:11 < _Ragnar_> wb
20:12 < _Ragnar_> did it work?
20:12 < madtux> yeah wb mnesyne
20:14 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: no
20:14 < _Ragnar_> :/
20:14 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: well... restored stuff from the partition... but not what i needed
20:15 < mnemoc> thanks anyway
20:15 < _Ragnar_> did you use --scan-whole-partition ?
20:15 < mnemoc> yes
20:15 < mnemoc> -S
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20:16 < _Ragnar_> :/
20:17 < morfoh> moin
20:17 < _Ragnar_> http://www.antrix.net/journal/techtalk/reiserfs_data_recovery_howto.comments
20:17 < _Ragnar_> that may also help
20:17 < mnemoc> thnaks
20:18 < _Ragnar_> did you have anything in lost+found?
20:19 < mnemoc> drwx------ 4307 root root 1,9M 2005-11-07 15:46 lost+found/ <--- lot of stuff.... but mostly copies of kernel source
20:19 < mnemoc> i'll review one by one
20:19 < _Ragnar_> yea
20:19 < _Ragnar_> you'll not have any filenames there
20:21 < mnemoc> for x in *; do file $x; done > ../files.txt
20:21 < _Ragnar_> :)
20:24 < _Ragnar_> also, some files may be recovored in plare
20:24 < _Ragnar_> place*
20:25 < madtux> a rat in the channel i smell..
20:26 < owl> hi madtux
20:26 < madtux> Eule :)
20:26 < morfoh> madtux: seems that your a** is burning :p
20:27 < morfoh> hi madtux :)
20:27 < madtux> hi morfoh .. how is it going ?
20:27 < owl> O_o
20:27 < owl> madtux: how was your meeting? *hides* ;)
20:28 < madtux> owl, it was cool, we missed a cup of your amazing poisoned coffee... but oh well... life is not perfect
20:28 < morfoh> madtux: quite ok .... thanks
20:29 < owl> madtux: *kick* i am not your waitress *even more kick*
20:30 < madtux> So let me get this straight... i can get to see picture of your pretty pair of "clowns", but i cannot get to taste your poisoned coffee?
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20:31 < madtux> not fair :(
20:31 < owl> madtux: exactly ;) why is it not fair? :) just come over to germany :p
20:32 < owl> belive me - the hospital-place is yours ;)
20:32 < madtux> i've been enough time at hospitals
20:32 < owl> madtux: well, then you don't want me to make coffee or something *smile*
20:32 < madtux> lets get you out of the hospital and become the most famous pyromaniacs of the history
20:33 < madtux> owl, only mortals are affected by your poison... i have no worries.
20:33 < owl> madtux: nah ;) oh, i forgot - you're a zombie ;)
20:34 < madtux> besides maybe we can invite morfoh and have him taste it first... then depending on the chemical reaction i will decide if wether i will drink or not.
20:34 < madtux> vampire.
20:34 < owl> hehe. poor morfoh ;)
20:34 < madtux> mnemoc, download finished.
20:34 < owl> vampire. zombie. all the same dark creatures ;)
20:34 < madtux> almost 5 hours to download 381 mb.. geez
20:35 * owl should be quiet - wearing black and darkblue clothes ^^
20:35 < madtux> owl, yeah... vampires, zombies, owls..
20:35 < owl> madtux: pfffff :p
20:35 < madtux> like if you were not a child of the darkness..
20:35 < madtux> mm... the chan is too quite..
20:35 < madtux> owl i think u scared the people
20:35 < owl> heh, don't you remember my "pink" laptop? ;)
20:36 < owl> hehe, ack
20:36 < madtux> owl, your pink laptop was nothing but a desperate attempt to make people believe u are an inocent little girl.
20:36 < morfoh> madtux: why quiet ? ... I see lot of nice conversation here :p
20:36 < madtux> morfoh, feel free to join it :)
20:37 < owl> madtux: dammit. i just fall in love with it *cries* *sniff* bwahaaaaaaa - i want my pink laptop back :)
20:37 < morfoh> madtux: sorry ... I've to prepare my server
20:37 < morfoh> and want to do some testing
20:37 < owl> morfoh: enjoy it ;)
20:37 < morfoh> owl: thanks ;)
20:37 < owl> de nada
20:38 < karasz> re moin all
20:38 < owl> wb karasz
20:38 < karasz> hi owl :)
20:39 < madtux> what kind of server?
20:39 < morfoh> owl: btw, seems that your "visit" was quite helpful :p
20:39 < morfoh> hi karasz ;)
20:39 < madtux> owl, maybe to compensate the laptop lose you should start wearing white and pink
20:39 * madtux hides quickly
20:40 < owl> morfoh: visit? you mean of the doc? - nah. but the music... but still "hibbelig"
20:40 < owl> madtux: *kick* *scratch*
20:40 < morfoh> madtux: I have to do some major updates on my server, the one which provides trac.t2-project.org
20:41 < morfoh> and some other stuff
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20:42 < morfoh> owl: I guess if you're "hibbelig" madtux is the right companero to talk to ;)
20:42 < karasz> sorry but my brain has some lag right now
20:43 < karasz> i can not respond quickly :(
20:43 < morfoh> karasz: what happened ?
20:43 < madtux> morfoh, hibbeling ?
20:43 < owl> morfoh: yeah, i know ;)
20:43 < madtux> wtf id hibbeling?
20:43 < morfoh> madtux: ask owlita :)
20:43 < karasz> morfoh I banged my head against DB2 instalation on Linux
20:43 < owl> madtux: like being nervous... but more than that... going up, and down, and up and down and not being able to calm down
20:44 < madtux> hey! owlita is an exclusive term of mine to refer to Sandra Eule Dismar
20:44 < madtux> so u are saying i am like kinda crazy?
20:44 < owl> madtux: nah, but good to talk to ;)
20:45 < madtux> well u know me... when i have the time to talk i can help people get out of the boring routine
20:45 < morfoh> madtux: do you have a patent on "owlita" ? :p
20:45 < morfoh> madtux: and anyway ... the first time I heard it was from master himself ;)
20:45 < madtux> morfoh, of course.
20:45 < madtux> master?!
20:45 < madtux> who is master?
20:46 < madtux> are u talking about our "geil" friend mnemoc ?
20:46 < morfoh> madtux: this cannot be true ...
20:46 < morfoh> madtux: did you used "geil" already ?
20:46 < madtux> a long time ago.
20:47 < morfoh> madtux: I guess you know the meaning
20:47 < madtux> yes i do.
20:47 < madtux> or i hope so... i believe there are 2 meanings
20:47 < madtux> anyways i only have intention of teasing
20:47 < morfoh> madtux: we all know ;)
20:49 < karasz> :D
20:50 < karasz> finaly
20:50 < karasz> my db2 setup is completed :D :D
20:50 < morfoh> karasz: :)
20:50 < karasz> it IS a nightmare
20:51 < karasz> my guess is that all DB makers except PostgreSQL are morons
20:52 < karasz> btw morfoh how are you?
20:52 < karasz> are you healthy again?
20:52 < morfoh> karasz: good thank you ... at least on the road to feel better :)
20:53 < karasz> glad to hear that :)
20:53 < morfoh> karasz: yeah ... :)
20:54 < karasz> how is the new T2 site commin' along?
20:58 < morfoh> karasz: already ... configuring and testing the updated image of my server ;)
20:58 < karasz> when wil be the launch?
21:00 < karasz> what happened to rxr?
21:00 < karasz> i didn't "saw" him today
21:00 < morfoh> I hoped to update the server this evening but I can't because I've go sleep earlier, but there is no official launch date of the site
21:02 < morfoh> karasz: I guess rxr has some courses at the uni on monday
21:03 < karasz> what uni is that?
21:06 < karasz> tfh?
21:06 < morfoh> karasz: yes
21:14 < rxr_> re
21:14 < morfoh> hi rxr_ :)
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21:18 < rxr> mnemoc: around ?
21:19 < mnemoc> kind of
21:22 < rxr> read your data rm -rf - still working on it ?
21:23 < mnemoc> yes
21:24 < karasz> moin rxr
21:52 < rxr> mnemoc: I had something to discuss but I guess you are busy then
21:57 < mnemoc> rxr: start talking on query, i'll read and answer soon
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22:51 < MisterN> n8
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22:54 < karasz> n8 MisterN
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23:14 < rxr> mnemoc: it was not secret stuff - only about pkgsel - I convert the generic target package selections to include eachother and to new-style pkgsel - however I noticed X LIBC does not work and wanted to discuss about that
23:14 < rxr> mnemoc: but first do you recovery - I also do too few backups ... :-(
23:14 < rxr> mnemoc: I commit the improvements in the maintime - how to deal with stuff like glibc, glibc32 that should default to the platform default in such configs can be done later
23:15 * rxr preparing for bed (susan is back - so more normal sleep cycle on my side
23:15 < rxr> but I'll commit those pkgsel changes before I fall asleep
23:15 < rxr> cu then
23:32 < CIA-12> rene * r13212 /trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
23:32 < CIA-12> * implemented an include statement for pkgsel files
23:32 < CIA-12> * used includes to base the minimal-desktop on minimal-xorg and that
23:32 < CIA-12> on minimal
23:34 < CIA-12> rene * r13213 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg:
23:34 < CIA-12> * fixed Emerge-Pkg for multiple packages (dump typo) and added a
23:34 < CIA-12> -debug switch to enable debuging output without editing the script
23:39 < CIA-12> rene * r13214 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/ (6 files): * renamed pkgsel files to allow a sane order in the UI
23:42 < karasz> rxr what do we need from openpower?
23:43 < karasz> i mean should i save something?
23:43 < karasz> or it is all commited to 2.1 or trunk...?
23:59 < mnemoc> re
23:59 < karasz> hi mnemoc
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