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02:49 < mnemoc> moin
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08:04 < rxr> re
08:11 < CIA-9> rene * r11968 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (backup-restore.sh backup.sh): 
08:11 < CIA-9> * fixed archivista/backup.sh and backup-restore.sh to not allow
08:11 < CIA-9>  cancelling the backup / restore in progress by clicking on the
08:11 < CIA-9>  Xdialog -log Ok button; log to file and display the file instead
08:53 < CIA-9> rene * r11969 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnokii/gnokii.desc: * updated gnokii (0.6.7 -> 0.6.8)
08:53 < CIA-9> rene * r11970 /trunk/package/gnome2/yelp/yelp.desc: * updated yelp (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1)
08:53 < CIA-9> rene * r11971 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (204 -> 205)
08:53 < CIA-9> rene * r11972 /trunk/package/audio/ardour/ardour.desc: * updated ardour (0.9beta28 -> 0.9beta30)
08:53 < CIA-9> rene * r11973 /trunk/package/multimedia/gxine/gxine.desc: * updated gxine (0.4.6 -> 0.4.8)
08:55 < CIA-9> rene * r11974 /trunk/package/e17/epsilon/epsilon.conf: * fixed e17/epsilon for --as-needed
08:57 < CIA-9> rene * r11975 /trunk/package/audio/lame/compile.patch: * added forgotten lame compile patch
09:01 < CIA-9> rene * r11976 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.4.0 -> 0.4.1)
09:48 < CIA-9> rene * r11977 /trunk/package/filesystem/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs.conf: 
09:48 < CIA-9> Aldas Nabazas <baldzius@gmail.com> and Rene Rebe <rene@exactcode.de>:
09:48 < CIA-9>  * fixed e2fsprogs to not install the pkgconfig files in /lib/pkgconfig
09:48 < CIA-9>  (might be the job for a generic INSTALL_WRAPPER translation)
09:48 < CIA-9>  fixes #84
09:48 < CIA-9>  * cleaned e2fsprogs.conf on the way
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10:04 < CIA-9> rene * r11978 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/etc/sudoers: * adapted archivista/sudoers config for recent status.sh rename
10:50 < CIA-9> rene * r11979 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/ (etc/sudoers home/archivista/rescan-scsi-bus-gui.sh): 
10:50 < CIA-9> * adapted archivista/etc/sudoers to allow the renamed scsi-rescan-gui.sh to be executed
10:50 < CIA-9> * fixed rescan-scsi-bus-gui.sh to not execute itself, but the -gui less
10:50 < CIA-9>  script
10:52 < CIA-9> rene * r11980 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/status.sh: 
10:52 < CIA-9> * further improved archivista/status.sh: removed Network from the title,
10:52 < CIA-9>  fixed mysql mode detection regex, prefix one digit minutes with a 0
10:52 < CIA-9>  and delimitted the status from the network status
10:52 < CIA-9> rene * r11981 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/backup-setup.sh: * allow setting of minutes in the backup-setup.sh script
10:54 < CIA-9> rene * r11982 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/db-master-disable.sh: 
10:54 < CIA-9> * reenabled archivista/db-master-disable.sh mysql permission code that
10:54 < CIA-9>  accidently was commited with debug output enabled
11:21 < valentin> moin
11:29 < Baldzius> good morning :)
11:32 < rxr> moin valentin and Baldzius 
11:32 < Baldzius> hi rxr
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12:25 < CIA-9> rene * r11983 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/ (db-master.sh status.sh): 
12:25 < CIA-9> * fixed archivista running sshd detection and added o'clock to the time
12:25 < CIA-9>  displayed for the backup status
12:46 < CIA-9> rene * r11984 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/db-master.sh: 
12:46 < CIA-9> * improved archivista/db-master.sh to more reliable replicate the
12:46 < CIA-9>  database (I think mysql first needs to be completely shut down in
12:46 < CIA-9>  order to open the binlog - and that db can be replicated then)
12:57 < valentin> so, now i have to find out why that autoresize visualisation trashes my preview...
12:57 < valentin> ^-- rxr:
13:05 < Baldzius> noone has problems compiling gcc?
13:41 < rxr> oehm
13:41 < rxr> do you?
13:42 < Baldzius> rxr: yes, and it's very strange, i can't even see what it's related to
13:42 < Baldzius> maybe i'll email you error log tail?
13:43 < Baldzius> problem is with Build-Target
13:44 < rxr> then I guess it is my new lib/32 code ...
13:44 < rxr> :-(
13:44 < rxr> I take a look after lunch
13:45 < Baldzius> make[1]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.gcc.system.20050919.025715.6725.localhost/gcc-4.0.1/objdir/i686-t2-linux-gnu/libobjc'
13:45 < Baldzius> Due to previous errors, no 5-gcc.log file!
13:46 < rxr> can you mail me the log ?
13:47 < Baldzius> full?
13:47 < Baldzius> or tail?
13:49 < Baldzius> and i forgot to mention it fails on stage 5
13:52 < rxr> full
13:54 < Baldzius> rxr: done
15:03 < rxr> Baldzius: your error is due to fortran
15:03 < rxr> f951: error: unrecognized command line option "-95"
15:03 < rxr> make[2]: *** [f2c_specifics.lo] Error 1
15:13 < Baldzius> rxr: so how to fix that?
15:14 < rxr> I have no idea why it happens - maybe patch gcc to not inject -95 if that fixes the problem
15:16 < mtr> hi
15:17 < rxr> hi mtr
15:17 < Baldzius> hi mtr
15:18 < mtr> i guess it was my extension to gmp last week which breaks gcc now, saw this error, too
15:18 < mtr> hi Baldzius 
15:18 < Baldzius> rxr: so you don't have this problem like i do?
15:19 < mtr> i fixed it with a new wrapper class F95_ in xgcc-wrapper
15:20 < mtr> did a -newdelete and recompiled gcc in all stages, except 9, and it looks good
15:20 < Baldzius> mtr: when?
15:20 < Baldzius> gcc fails for me in stage 5
15:20 < mtr> Baldzius: build finished 20 minutes ago ;)
15:21 < Baldzius> :)
15:21 < Baldzius> ic
15:24 < mtr> rxr: is it ok to extend the xgcc-wrapper script for fortran, too
15:24 < mtr> it already checks for gcj
15:25 < rxr> mtr: I think so
15:26 < mtr> ok, i commit then
15:29 < CIA-9> mtr * r11985 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf: 
15:29 < CIA-9> * gcc: omit *CC_WRAPPER* options for gfortran and use F95_WRAPPER* instead
15:29 < CIA-9> * create f77 symlink to gfortran
15:31 < mtr> Baldzius: could you checkout r11985 and try if it fixes you gcc error, too?
15:32 < rxr> mtr: does the optimization settings go into F95_WRAPPER_... ?
15:39 < Baldzius> mtr: ok
15:41 < mtr> rxr: grepped through package/*, misc/* and architecture/* for F77_WRAPPER  -> 0 matches
15:42 < mtr> so i thought F95_WRAPPER_* would be a better match for the current fortran compiler
15:45 < rxr> mtr: ack - or even F_WRAPPER or FORTRAN_WRAPPER?
15:45 < rxr> anyway - the questions is: are the optimization settings injected into it ?
15:46 < rxr> mtr: do you have free time? it would be nice to enable ada support in t2 -however I think a ada copmiler is needed for boostrap - sigh
15:48 < mtr> rxr: have some but limited spare time this week, but i will have a look into ada
15:52 < mnemoc> moin
15:55 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc
15:55 < mnemoc> hi Baldzius 
15:55 < mtr> moin mnemoc
15:55 < mnemoc> moin mtr 
15:57 < Baldzius> mtr: builds fine
15:59 < mtr> Baldzius: gcc build ready?
15:59 < Baldzius> mtr: yes it passes at least stage 5
16:00 < mnemoc> what? where?
16:03 < mtr> mnemoc: gcc-4 did not build the fortran compiler, it depends on the mpfr library in gmp
16:03 < Baldzius> mnemoc: we had little problem on trunk's gcc
16:03 < mtr> i enabled this library last week in gmp but this broke the gcc build
16:03 < Baldzius> now seems everything works
16:03 < Baldzius> :)
16:04 < Baldzius> bbl
16:05 < mnemoc> oh
16:06 < mnemoc> mtr: you may also restrict fortran compiler to be built only on a stage where gmp is available
16:07 < mtr> mnemoc: gcc autodetects the mpfr library, and only builds the fortran compiler if it is available
16:07 < mnemoc> good :)
16:07 < mtr> :)
16:24 < CIA-9> chris * r11986 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/libptp/ (. libptp.cache libptp.cache libptp.desc libptp.desc): * merged 11745: added libptp (1.1.0)
16:25 < rxr> moin mnemoc 
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16:28 < morfoh> moin
16:41 < mnemoc> moin rxr, morfoh 
16:41 < morfoh> moin mnemoc :)
16:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: what about moving audio.* to Desktop/Multimedia/ ?
16:42 < morfoh> mnemoc: I want to add "DigiCam Support" and want to place it there too
16:46 < mnemoc> morfoh: if we will have more 'multimedia', sure
16:47 < morfoh> mnemoc: I think so ... I'd like to add simple graphic support too ... including the most common graphic libraries on Desktop
16:50 < morfoh> rxr: does libgphoto needs libptp for ptp support ?
16:53 < rxr> nope - I don't think so
16:53 < morfoh> rxr: so it comes with its own ptp2 libs ?
16:54 < morfoh> rxr: I just asking because libptp and libgphoto have the same prio, but libgphoto is build first
16:54 < rxr> I only added libptp recently I think gphoto always just worked
16:59 < morfoh> is there a reason for not updating libgphoto 2.1.5 -> 2.1.6 ?
17:02 < CIA-9> chris * r11987 /trunk/package/graphic/libgphoto/libgphoto.desc: * updated libgphoto (2.1.5 -> 2.1.6)
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17:32 < rxr_> re
17:32 < CIA-9> rene * r11988 /trunk/package/graphic/pstoedit/ (. pstoedit.cache pstoedit.desc): * added pstoedit (2.41)
17:33 < CIA-9> rene * r11989 /trunk/package/graphic/gsview/ (. gsview.cache gsview.conf gsview.desc): * added gsview (4.7)
17:34 < rxr_> cu soon
17:37 < CIA-9> chris * r11990 /trunk/package/graphic/gphoto/gphoto.desc: * updated gphoto (2.1.5 -> 2.1.6)
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18:09 < morfoh> rxr_: libkipi libkexif and digikam have the same build prio ... I guess that's not what we want if we want
18:10 < morfoh> to build libkexif with kipi support 
18:10 < morfoh> and digikam with kip and kexif support
18:10 < mnemoc> morfoh: if there are no dependencies between them, there is no problem on prio duplication
18:11 < morfoh> mnemoc: ack ... but digikam can be compile with libkipi and libkexif support
18:11 < mnemoc> digikam++
18:12 < morfoh> mnemoc: ?
18:12 < mnemoc> increment digikam prio by one
18:14 < morfoh> thanks ;) ... but I guess I've to increment libkexif by one and digikam by two ;)
18:17 < CIA-9> chris * r11991 /trunk/package/kde/libkexif/libkexif.desc: * increased build priority by 1 to build libkexif after libkipi
18:19 < CIA-9> chris * r11992 /trunk/package/kde/digikam/digikam.desc: * increased build priority by 2 to build digikam after libkipi and libkexif
18:20 < rxr_> re
18:21 -!- You're now known as rxr
18:21 < rxr> ouhm
18:21 < rxr> glibc fails on sparc64
18:22 < rxr> guess I have to import some more gcc-4 fixes into glibc ...
18:24 < mnemoc> uhm
18:24 < rxr> ../sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-128/s_isinfl.c:28: error: '__EI___isinfl' aliased to und
18:24 < rxr> efined symbol '__GI___isinfl'
18:24 < rxr> make[2]: *** [/home/t2-trunk/src.glibc.default.20050919.172153.18755.corona/glib
18:24 < rxr> c-2.3.5/objdir/math/s_isinfl.os] Error 1
18:24 < rxr> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
18:24 < rxr> ../sysdeps/ieee754/ldbl-128/s_isnanl.c:42: error: '__EI___isnanl' aliased to und
18:24 < rxr> efined symbol '__GI___isnanl'
18:25 < CIA-9> chris * r11993 /branches/2.1/package/kde/ (8 files in 2 dirs): * merged 11830: updated digikam (0.7.2 -> 0.7.4), added digikamimageplugins (0.7.4)
18:31 < CIA-9> chris * r11994 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/libgphoto/libgphoto.desc: merged: 11987: updated libgphoto (2.1.5 -> 2.1.6)
18:32 < CIA-9> chris * r11995 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/gphoto/gphoto.desc: * merged 11990: updated gphoto (2.1.5 -> 2.1.6)
18:34 < mnemoc> morfoh: 11994 and 11995 should have been a single commit
18:34 < morfoh> mnemoc: sorry ... next time ;)
18:35 < CIA-9> chris * r11996 /branches/2.1/package/kde/ (digikam/digikam.desc libkexif/libkexif.desc): * merged 11991,11992: increased build priority by 1 to build libkexif after libkipi, increased build priority by 2 to build digikam after libkipi and libkexif
18:36 < mnemoc> no digikam dependenders affected?
18:37 < morfoh> mnemoc: afaics nope
19:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: I added the digikam support for syne2 ... I think I should add GNOMEDIGICAM.all too, for automagically including gnome related apps 
19:14 < mnemoc> ok
19:15 < morfoh> but now I've to move ... cu in about 1h
19:15 < mnemoc> cu
19:15 < _Ragnar_> cya
19:15 < morfoh> cu
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19:23 < CIA-9> rene * r11997 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (0.5.18 -> 0.5.19)
19:36 < Baldzius> # T2 3.1.0-rc3, the release announcement 
19:36 < Baldzius> :)
19:37 < Baldzius> from distrowatch.com
19:37 < rxr> hey - it starts to be so cold over here - that my laptop fan does not really spin on during full load
19:38 < Baldzius> :)
19:43 < CIA-9> rene * r11998 /trunk/package/graphic/ghostscript/ (gcc-40.patch ghostscript.conf ghostscript.desc): 
19:43 < CIA-9> * enavled building the shared library libgs.so of ghostscript, that is
19:43 < CIA-9>  e.g. needed by gsview, needs a gcc-40.patch and FPIC-QUIRK
19:44 < _Lewellyn> rxr: i envy you :)
19:45 < _Lewellyn> my lcd started going black from heat yesterday; i assume the liquid was vaporizing...
19:45 < _Ragnar_> O_O
19:46 < rxr> .oO
19:46 < _Lewellyn> it's fine now. i just cut the power for a couple hours.
19:47 < _Lewellyn> running at full cpu, while charging, pounding the wifi card, and lots of disk i/o makes the machine unhappy
19:59 < mnemoc> Baldzius: where did you see 3.1.0?
20:01 < Baldzius> mnemoc: in weekly
20:02 < mnemoc> oh
20:42 < rxr> mnemoc: how are you still ill?
20:43 < mnemoc> it's ending 
20:43 < mnemoc> and you?
20:46 < rxr> oh - ok
20:46 < rxr> did not find tiem for the PR paper I needed today - that sucks a bit ...
20:46 < rxr> but well - tomorros is another day ... ,-)
20:47 < rxr> right now I hack automated dependency generation (we had in the old build scripts) into exact-build ...
20:47 < rxr> not too funny work
20:47 < _Ragnar_> _Lewellyn: how did the 64bit work?
20:50 < mnemoc> rxr: i would try by filtering [DEP]s to current stage and use `tsort`
20:51 < CIA-9> amery * r11999 /trunk/package/network/bluez-hcidump/bluez-hcidump.desc: * updated bluez-hcidump (1.22 -> 1.25)
20:51 < rxr> mnemoc: I meant this Makefile stuff ... ,-)
20:51 < CIA-9> amery * r12000 /trunk/package/network/bluez-hciemu/bluez-hciemu.desc: * updated bluez-hciemu (1.1 -> 1.2)
20:51 < mnemoc> rxr: :)
20:52 < CIA-9> amery * r12001 /trunk/package/network/bluez-libs/bluez-libs.desc: * updated bluez-libs (2.18 -> 2.21)
20:53 < rxr> I work all the day and mnemoc get 12000 X-(
20:53 < CIA-9> amery * r12002 /trunk/package/network/bluez-utils/bluez-utils.desc: * updated bluez-utils (2.18 -> 2.21)
20:53 < mnemoc> oh!
20:53 < mnemoc> i didn't notice :(
20:53 < mnemoc> sorrt
20:53 < mnemoc> sorry
20:53 < rxr> mnemoc: looking at http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png I wonder how outdated ROCK will be ...
20:53 < rxr> mnemoc: no issue - just joking ,-)
20:53 < mnemoc> 13000 is yours :)
20:54 < mnemoc> or the instant when we double rock revisions
20:54 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
20:55 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/exact-image/trunk/
20:55 < rxr> err sorry
20:55 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/exact-build/trunk/
20:55 < rxr> ^- that starts to rock now ...
20:57 < mnemoc> .oO( uhm, argentinian pilots on _our_ national parade??! )o
20:57 < mnemoc> Updated to revision 6377. <--- rock
20:57 < mnemoc> 6377*2=12754
20:58 < mnemoc> 752 to go
21:00 < rxr> well - that will be "soon" ,-)
21:05 < valentin> re
21:05 < valentin> wow r12000
21:07 < valentin> mnemoc: don't be to sure. i guess when t2 is at r12754, rock advanced to r6381
21:08 < valentin> and when we are at r12762 they will be at r6381 + 1 patch in submaster...
21:09 < valentin> and when we are at .... they are at ... <- Xeno a
21:09 < valentin> paradox
21:12 < _Lewellyn> _Ragnar_: i got kicked out of the offfice friday eve before backing up, and i didn't feel comfortable proceeding before. so it will have to wait till this weekend :(
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21:13 < valentin> hi _Lewellyn
21:13 < valentin> has been a long time since we talked
21:15 < _Lewellyn> hoi valentin 
21:15 < _Lewellyn> yes, it has. how have you been?
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21:15 < valentin> quite nice. Janna arived :)
21:18 < _Lewellyn> :)
21:18 < _Ragnar_> _Lewellyn: aww okay that sucks ... good luck for next weekend
21:18 < _Lewellyn> since you're here... i'll ask what i will need to do, so i am clear.
21:19 < _Lewellyn> i am upgrading from rock 2.0, so i'll remove any packages that are not in the set you provided
21:19 < _Lewellyn> then, i'll boot the minimal 32-bit cd
21:19 < _Lewellyn> then install the packages that you provided.
21:19 < _Ragnar_> ok
21:19 < _Lewellyn> is that correct?
21:20 < _Ragnar_> you better _not_ install this over an existing filesystem
21:20 < _Lewellyn> oh...
21:20 < _Ragnar_> I've had tons of problems with that at least
21:20 < _Lewellyn> hrm.
21:20 < _Lewellyn> what sorts of problems?
21:20 < _Ragnar_> library locations mostly
21:21 < _Ragnar_> almost all libraries for 64bit should be in /lib64
21:21 < _Lewellyn> hm...
21:21 < _Ragnar_> and /usr/lib64 ... but some packages don't put their libs in the right places (hello X11) and will get messed up if they try to load a 32bit library accidentally
21:22 < _Lewellyn> so, if i make a new fs for /, /etc, /usr, /opt, then i should be fine with my existing /usr/local?
21:23 < _Lewellyn> or do i get to recompile everything?
21:24 < _Ragnar_> my usual way of doing this is 'cd /mnt; mkdir old; mv * old; mv old/proc .; mv old/dev .;mine -i /pkgs/*.gem; <compare /etc and /boot files by hand>; reinstall grub'
21:25 < _Ragnar_> if you're updating from rock, you'll likely have to recompile most stuff (and you won't get the 64bit benefits anyway if you don't recompile)
21:25 < _Lewellyn> hrm. that's right. i'm going to have to learn how to use grub :/
21:25 < _Lewellyn> well, most of the stuff in /usr/local won't benefit much from 64-bit goodness...
21:25 < _Ragnar_> (same applies for lilo, I just use grub as my favorite bootloader...)
21:26 < _Ragnar_> if you have all the dependency libs in /usr/local, too, those programs should work ... the packages include a 32bit libc
21:26 < _Ragnar_> but there might still be a mess with gccs libgcc.so
21:27 < rxr> valentin: exact-build now das .d files and thus indirect auto dependencies again
21:28 < rxr> exact-image-trunk$ time make -j 200
21:28 < rxr> real    0m4.204s
21:28 < rxr> user    0m3.548s
21:28 < rxr> sys     0m0.544s
21:29 < _Lewellyn> lessee.. usrlocal has adobe crap, xplat-compatibility aliases as my homedir is nfs mounted across unices, oracle, realplayer, stuff for one of our printers, some vmware stuff, my imap server, a couple of scripts, my mail client of choice, x11vnc, a custom vim, and an obscure programming language interpreter.
21:30 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
21:30 < _Ragnar_> most should be ok
21:30 < _Lewellyn> so: oracle, realplayer, adobe, my mail client, and the printer software. that's what's required to be 32-bit
21:30 < rxr> be aware that a vanila t2 64bit will not include all the libraries in 32bit - thus most 32bit binary only stuff wil not work
21:30 < _Lewellyn> rxr: can you elaborate?
21:31 < _Ragnar_> I only needed the 32bit X11 libraries for opera
21:31 < rxr> (out of the box - until you fill the lib/ near the lib64/ dirs with content
21:31 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ack X and other libraries like libjpeg, ... would be required here and there for 32bit software
21:31 < _Ragnar_> yea
21:31 < rxr> though some binary only "crap" is statically linked anyway
21:32 < _Lewellyn> _Ragnar_: forgot about opera... that's the other 32-bit binary :/
21:32 < _Ragnar_> btw: again, X stuff installs itself to /usr/X11R6/lib/, not to /usr/X11R6/lib64 as it should
21:32 < _Lewellyn> :/
21:33 < _Ragnar_> so when you install 32bit libraries, make sure you unpack the package to a temp directory and then move the libs to /usr/X11R6/lib32 by hand :)
21:33 < _Lewellyn> examples of these libraries?
21:33 < _Lewellyn> also, gcc will compile 64-bit by default, correct?
21:34 < rxr> not lib32 but lib/ - lib64/ is the 64bit stuff
21:34 < rxr> _Lewellyn: yep
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21:34 < rxr> -m32 will built 32bit
21:35 < _Lewellyn> good good. and i don't know what 32-bit libraries i'd be watching out for, still
21:35 < _Ragnar_> no don't put them in lib/
21:35 < rxr> in T2 you have a glib32 and a stdc++ built in a way to be able to link / run those C / C++ apps by default
21:35 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ?
21:35 < _Ragnar_> that will confuse the compile when you try to build 64bit again since _all_ the package expect it to be in lib/ not lib64/
21:35 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I have no problems with that
21:35 < _Lewellyn> rxr: i think he's saying that x uses lib, not lib64
21:36 < rxr> _Ragnar_: lib64 is LSB and so on - SuSE and Fedora Core do it the same way
21:36 < _Ragnar_> I know, but in reality, none of the X packages honor that
21:37 < _Ragnar_> my /usr/X11R6/lib64 dir is _empty_ after a build
21:38 < rxr> .o
21:38 < rxr> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 Sep  9 13:18 /usr/X11/lib64 -> /usr/X11/lib/
21:38 < rxr> we ned to fix that ...
21:38 < rxr> need even
21:38 < _Ragnar_> *g*
21:38 < _Ragnar_> that link obviously doesn't exist for me
21:38 < _Ragnar_> I was tempted to do it that way during build manually, but I desisted ;)
21:39 < _Lewellyn> ok. so if that link exists, that still causes the same issue with 32-bit libs, no?
21:39 < _Ragnar_> it doesn't really make much difference
21:39 < _Ragnar_> just put the 32bit libraries into lib32/ and you're safe
21:39 < rxr> _Lewellyn: the dynamic loader loads them - not the app - thust when you create lib32 as _Ragnar_ suggest you only need to place that path into /etc/ld.so.conf
21:40 < rxr> _Ragnar_: I remeber vaguely I recently fixed our obsolete these days lib64 overwrite in xorg some time ago
21:40 < rxr> guess I should rebuild trunk's HEAD some time soon
21:41 < _Lewellyn> ok. but i'm still not sure what 32-bit libs i'd build
21:41 < _Lewellyn> and i think it's lunchtime here.
21:42 < rxr> ,-)
21:42 < _Ragnar_> _Lewellyn: then call opera with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib32:/usr/X11R6/lib32 opera
21:42 < _Lewellyn> bak in a bit. looks like a company outing
21:42 < _Ragnar_> (puttint it into ld.so.conf should work too) :D
21:45 < _Ragnar_> ah you also need 32bit libz and motif
21:48 < CIA-9> aldas * r12003 /trunk/package/filesystem/dvdisaster/dvdisaster.desc: * changed compile order, it requires gtk2+
21:51 < rxr> ,-)
21:52 < _Ragnar_> that package name doesn't sound nice ;D
21:55 < Baldzius> :)
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22:01 < morfoh> re hi+
22:03 < rxr> hi morfoh 
22:03 < morfoh> hi rxr 
22:07 < rxr> well - /me in bed - cu
22:07 < morfoh> rxr: good night ... sleep well :)
22:16 < valentin> gn8 rxr
22:44 < CIA-9> amery * r12004 /branches/2.1/package/network/isdn4k-utils/ (4 files): * merged 10830 from trunk: fixed isdn4k-utils by inhibit creation of /dev nodes, also decustmain-ed (closed #94 and #31)
22:54 < CIA-9> amery * r12005 /branches/2.1/package/network/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
22:54 < CIA-9> * updated bluez-hcidump (1.18 -> 1.22)
22:54 < CIA-9> * updated bluez-libs (2.15 -> 2.18)
22:54 < CIA-9> * updated bluez-utils (2.15 -> 2.18)
23:18 < mnemoc> OOo takes 7h on P4/3.0/512/ATA133 and 5h on P4/3.0/512/SATA
23:21 < _Lewellyn> that was a long lunch :)
23:21 < _Lewellyn> sleep well, rxr 
23:22 < _Lewellyn> _Ragnar_: so you recommend me just installing the packages by hand to a fresh set of partitions and using my existing /usr/local and some of my /etc config files?
23:23 < _Lewellyn> i just want to be clear to save lots of headaches in a few days
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23:58 < _Ragnar_> _Lewellyn: yea
23:59 < _Lewellyn> ok. i get paranoid when i do "unsupported" things like this on my work workstatioin "_
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