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T2 IRC Log: 2005-09-10

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--- Log opened Sat Sep 10 00:00:29 2005
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00:09 < sparc-kly> Darwin xlinux.ath.cx 7.9.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0: Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
00:09 < sparc-kly> so .. im stupid hmm..
00:09 < CIA-8> amery * r11759 /trunk/package/develop/boehm-gc/boehm-gc.desc: * updated boehm-gc (6.5 -> 6.6)
00:10 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: you are an sparc user :)
00:10 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: valentin and rene are apple users too ;)
00:12 < sparc-kly> lol :P
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00:22 < Baldzius> hm, can't boot into kernel-2.6.13, can someone post his grub.conf especially initrd section
00:22 < Baldzius> grub refuses to see my initrd file
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00:59 < Baldzius> all ide drivers marked as "m"
01:00 < Baldzius> i wonder who is sitting on trunk's kernel :)
01:01 < mnemoc> on T2-2.2 _everything_ is module
01:01 < mnemoc> initrd does the rest
01:01 < Baldzius> but it doesn't :)
01:01 < mnemoc> full-modularity is the first goal on current trunk
01:02 * _Ragnar_ shudders
01:02 < _Ragnar_> modules are evil
01:02 < Baldzius> hm maybe i'am doing smtg wrong?
01:02 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: i'm a 2.1 user :)
01:03 < Baldzius> it seems grub doesn't like initrd filename to be like initrd-2.6.13-dist.img
01:04 < Baldzius> i made link to initrd to work
01:05 < Baldzius> but i couldn't see that initrd would try to load my ide drivers
01:24 < mnemoc> Baldzius: ask rene, valentin or jsaw about that
01:24 < _Ragnar_> that's cheating
01:24 < _Ragnar_> :D
01:25 < Baldzius> :)
01:25 < mnemoc> npe, it's wisdom :D
01:25 < Baldzius> last question before bed
01:25 < Baldzius> i've looked over handbook and couldn't find what i was loooking
01:26 < mnemoc> the handbook is a bit incomplete and outdated :(
01:26 < Baldzius> :)
01:26 < Baldzius> so
01:26 < Baldzius> i have question about new packages which i made
01:26 < Baldzius> can you tell me in short
01:27 < mnemoc> just ask
01:27 < Baldzius> what i and how should do
01:27 < Baldzius> lest say i made d4x package which works
01:27 < Baldzius> what now?
01:28 < valentin> send it to the mailinglist ?
01:28 < mnemoc> if you want to add it to mainline send a patch against trunk:HEAD to ML
01:28 < mnemoc> with [PATCH] on the subject
01:28 < Baldzius> how i make that patch?
01:28 < valentin> i urgently need some sleep, cu
01:28 < _Ragnar_> diff -u
01:28 < Baldzius> bye
01:29 < Baldzius> and what about svn diff?
01:29 < valentin> works, too...
01:29 < Baldzius> how? :)
01:29 < valentin> just enter 'svn diff '
01:30 < _Ragnar_> have to do 'svn add ' for newly added files then tho
01:30 < valentin> of course you need to do your work within a checkoud
01:30 < Baldzius> but that package is not in svn repository
01:30 < valentin> svn add
01:30 < Baldzius> oh svn add
01:30 < Baldzius> i c :)
01:30 < mnemoc> or diff against /dev/null ;)
01:31 < Baldzius> and do i need that misc/share/Update.sh?
01:32 < valentin> gn8
01:32 < Baldzius> just can't understant the purpose of that script
01:33 < mnemoc> Baldzius: that script updates a package
01:33 < mnemoc> Baldzius: it's a helper
01:34 < mnemoc> misc/archive/Update.sh anyway
01:34 < mnemoc> it's there to make our life easier when we update a .desc
01:35 < Baldzius> ic, thanks a lot :)
01:35 < mnemoc> :)
01:37 < Baldzius> btw, when sending new package, should i include *.cache ?
01:38 < mnemoc> recommended but not mandatory
01:38 < Baldzius> ok, good night :)
01:38 < mnemoc> gn8 Baldzius
02:52 < CIA-8> ragnar * r11760 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf: * gcc: omit *CC_WRAPPER* options for gcj and use GCJ_WRAPPER* instead.
04:38 < CIA-8> amery * r11761 /trunk/package/games/freeciv/freeciv.desc: * updated freeciv (2.0.4 -> 2.0.5)
04:55 < CIA-8> amery * r11762 /trunk/package/games/freeciv/freeciv.desc: * changed freeciv to download from sourceforge
05:35 < lewellyn^> hoi. anyone up?
05:36 < mnemoc> no idea
05:36 < mnemoc> but i'm sit
05:37 < lewellyn^> :)
05:37 < lewellyn^> which mirror is up for downloading?
05:37 < lewellyn^> ah. nexus
05:37 < mnemoc> nexus,nzg's and mine
05:37 < mnemoc> only gsmp is down
05:38 < lewellyn^> hm.
05:39 < lewellyn^> what's the difference between 2.1.0-rc3/pmmx/t2-desktop/ and 2.1.0-rc3/t2-desktop/pmmx/?
05:39 < mnemoc> nope
05:39 < mnemoc> they are symlinks :)
05:39 < lewellyn^> ok. the webserver doesn't make that obvious :)
05:40 < mnemoc> due to server's index i desided to add symlink-based flavors
05:40 < lewellyn^> :)
05:40 < lewellyn^> so, there's an asterisk package, but it's not on the rc3 cd. :/
05:41 < lewellyn^> that's not going to win me points here. ah well, he can learn how to do it.
05:41 < mnemoc> rc3 cds are samples
05:41 < mnemoc> samples make from generic/minimal and desktop targets
05:41 < lewellyn^> samples?
05:42 < lewellyn^> ya.
05:42 < mnemoc> t2 is not a distribution, it's a framework
05:42 < lewellyn^> is there a "everything dammit" target?
05:42 < lewellyn^> i know.
05:42 < lewellyn^> i'm well aware of that.
05:42 < mnemoc> generic/minimal and desktop are 'sample' distributions :)
05:42 < mnemoc> everything could be generic + ooo
05:42 < lewellyn^> i was just hoping that the guy i'm trying to convert would have everything oob
05:43 < mnemoc> not everything everything, but the big and safe subset
05:44 < lewellyn^> i'll give him minimal :)
05:44 < mnemoc> :)
05:44 < mnemoc> minimal is very usable
05:45 < mnemoc> and has everything needed to do your own builds
05:45 < mnemoc> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/ <--- my reference build
05:45 < mnemoc> with:
05:45 < mnemoc> Enabled : 1586
05:45 < mnemoc> Disabled : 48
05:45 < mnemoc> Hidden : 19
05:45 < mnemoc> Total : 1653
05:45 < lewellyn^> ya. minimal also has a good base.
05:46 < lewellyn^> why is openmotif disabled?
05:47 < mnemoc> lesstif is prefered
05:47 < lewellyn^> by some ;)
05:47 < mnemoc> but you can disable lesstif and enable openmotif
05:47 < lewellyn^> anyway, is rc3 safe to upgrade from rock 2.0?
05:48 < mnemoc> not simple, but doable
05:48 < lewellyn^> i guess i'm not doing it tonite then
05:48 < mnemoc> 2.1 as 2.0 has devfs, and rockplug
05:49 < mnemoc> 2.2 has more deep changes
05:49 < mnemoc> 2.2==trunk
05:49 < mnemoc> i would backup and reinstall anyway :)
05:49 < lewellyn^> :(
05:50 < lewellyn^> that's lotsa work...
05:50 < mnemoc> a few packages have changes name
05:50 < lewellyn^> is there a list of them so i can remove them first?
05:50 < mnemoc> and another few have changed their prefix
05:51 < mnemoc> loop over /var/adm/packages/* and see which are present on package/*/
05:51 < mnemoc> bash script is your friend :)
05:51 < lewellyn^> i suppose so. bah.
05:52 < lewellyn^> i guess if i use minimal, the work is easier.
05:52 < mnemoc> 2.2 had xfree or xorg?
05:52 < lewellyn^> xfree
05:52 < lewellyn^> i'm hoping to stay with xfree
05:52 < mnemoc> 2.0 i meaned anyway
05:52 < mnemoc> xfree is not available on t2
05:52 < lewellyn^> xorg + the software i use + my quadro = slow
05:52 < lewellyn^> or so i've seen from my coworkers on identical boxes in the office
05:52 < lewellyn^> urk.
05:53 < mnemoc> on t2? ;)
05:53 < lewellyn^> by slow, i mean they walk over and wnder why the hell my machine is so fast
05:53 < mnemoc> try t2-desktop on a test machine first
05:55 < mnemoc> i don't feel it slower.... but i'm used to this
05:59 < lewellyn^> no spares of these machines. we just allocated our spare and dell discontinued the model :(
05:59 < lewellyn^> so, i guess i'll have backup, just in case
06:01 < lewellyn^> i really like what i've seen of the t2 livecd, so i'm really wanting to upgrade :)
06:01 < lewellyn^> it looks like you guys have done a good job in fixing issues i had with rock
06:01 < mnemoc> i hope to not disapoint you
06:02 < lewellyn^> i doubt you will
06:02 < lewellyn^> and once i upgrade, i can hopefully make packages for many of the things i have in my /usr/local :)
06:03 < mnemoc> send us all the packages you need
06:03 < mnemoc> and you can also ask for a write svn account if you need it
06:03 < lewellyn^> i will, once i finish listing them. been doing it slowly.
06:04 < mnemoc> sh misc/archive/newpackage.sh can help you
06:04 < lewellyn^> that'd mean learning how to use svn :)
06:04 < mnemoc> yep
06:04 < lewellyn^> ya, i'll be taking advantage of that.
06:05 < lewellyn^> but i've come up with at least 20 packages to build so far. worst case, i'll have to figure out how to have my own package tree.
06:06 < mnemoc> on t2 we avoid personal repositories, we prefer by-topic repositories
06:06 < lewellyn^> i mean for my own packages, if you choose not to accept them :)
06:06 < mnemoc> :)
06:08 < lewellyn^> hm. there's no realplayer package?
06:08 < lewellyn^> nor opera?
06:08 < mnemoc> realplayer is 'live'
06:08 < mnemoc> no opera
06:10 < mnemoc> if you want to packages and _maintain_ them, send the patches
06:10 < lewellyn^> will do
06:12 < mnemoc> btw, if you want something to 2.1 you have to send the patch against trunk and file a package request on trac.t2-project.org
06:17 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep now... cu lewellyn^
06:17 < mnemoc> enjoy :)
06:18 < lewellyn^> i'm going to go too
06:18 < lewellyn^> thanks
06:18 < lewellyn^> i'll ask about packages again when the time comes
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09:12 < rxr> re
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09:13 [Users #t2]
09:13 [@vilkacis] [ CIA-8 ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg_ ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin]
09:13 [ _Ragnar_] [ karasz ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ Shingo-- ]
09:13 [ Baldzius] [ lewellyn^] [ mtr_ ] [ sepp_] [ sparc-kly]
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09:33 < keinek> hi
09:37 < rxr> moin keinek
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10:19 < owl> hi
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10:39 < CIA-8> rene * r11763 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (0.83 -> 0.87)
10:40 < CIA-8> rene * r11764 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.4.1 -> 0.4.2)
10:40 < rxr> hi owl
10:44 < valentin> moin
10:45 < rxr> moin valentin
10:47 < mipe> 1-linux26, trys to build nvidia drivers why?
10:50 < rxr> mipe: i
10:50 < rxr> mipe: hi even ,-)
10:50 < rxr> mipe: becasue all kernel extensions are normally built ...
10:50 < rxr> you got a problem ?=
10:51 < mipe> i686-t2-linux-gnu-kcc: command not found
10:52 < mipe> thats on i686-t2-linux-gnu-kcc: command not found
10:52 < mipe> ups
10:52 < mipe> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7174-pkg1
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11:21 < rxr> Apache/2.0.49 (Gentoo/Linux) PHP/4.3.6 Server at www.cyberport.de Port 80
11:21 < rxr> ^- this big shop runs gentoo linux ?!?
11:21 * rxr headshake
11:40 < valentin> re
11:41 < rxr> rehi valentin
11:41 * rxr tea
11:41 < rxr> btw. cancelled by siggelkow order of the Adaptec USB2Xchange - after 2 weeks still not delivered
11:42 < rxr> I ordered it by a yet-unknown online shop - let's see if they deliver faster than 2 weeks ...
12:30 < rxr> 3486 pts/0 R+ 388:37 /opt/java/kaffe/jre/bin/kaffe-bin Test
12:30 < rxr> ^- how I hate that
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12:36 < Baldzius> moin
12:39 < rxr> moin Baldzius
12:39 < Baldzius> moin rxr
12:39 < Baldzius> when will t2 be udev ready?
12:41 < rxr> it is
12:41 < rxr> try trunk
12:41 < rxr> the only thing in trunk needing rework is the install
12:41 < rxr> er
12:41 < rxr> I run u/dev on all my main systems
12:43 < Baldzius> hm i couldn't get into 2.6.13
12:43 < Baldzius> first it said it can't find initial console
12:43 < Baldzius> i created node
12:44 < Baldzius> and then something about devfsd
12:44 < Baldzius> i looked into system init script
12:44 < Baldzius> but didn't see anything about udev
12:45 < rxr> you need a initrd
12:45 < rxr> did you try trunk's linux-2.6 with 2.1 installed system?
12:45 < rxr> that will not work out
12:46 < rxr> you need an initrd which sets up the initial u/dev so the device nodes are available to mount the root device
12:46 < rxr> also the new initrd stuff does dynamically load the modules needed for the hardware - thus (in contrast to 2.1) works with any SCSI or SATA adapter - not just the ones statically built into the kernel
12:46 < Baldzius> rxr: i am sitting on 2.1-rc1 minimal :)
12:47 < Baldzius> and using trunk
12:47 < Baldzius> so i guess that's the problem
12:47 < rxr> well - ack - in the case of the kernel that is not a good idea - too many changes in between
12:53 < Baldzius> rxr: btw i coudn't get ipw2200 package compiled with 2.6.13, so i removed it from kernel module compile cycle
12:55 < CIA-8> rene * r11765 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-net.conf.m4: * make sure the nVidia FORCEDETH driver is not built into the kernel
12:55 < rxr> Baldzius: hm - built here - but for you, locally it is a solotion ,-)
12:56 < Baldzius> rxr: last question, is bootdisk target fixed? some time ago it didn't work and you said it needs to be fixed
13:00 < rxr> on trunk=
13:00 < rxr> ? even
13:00 < rxr> no - that is Work In Progress
13:00 < Baldzius> ic
13:25 < CIA-8> valentin * r11766 /trunk/misc/lua/ (parse-desc.lua t2_desc.lua):
13:25 < CIA-8> * created a t2_desc package containing the desc parsing facillitys from parse-desc.lua
13:25 < CIA-8> * rewrote parse-desc to use the functions from this package instead
13:28 < CIA-8> valentin * r11767 /trunk/misc/lua/t2_desc.lua: * small speedup by calling local functions directly by name instead of package method
14:12 < rxr> http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/nano30.jpg
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14:34 < Shingo--> moin
14:37 < Shingo--> some one here has a Nokia N-GAGE?
14:39 < rxr> not me
14:40 < Shingo--> some one know how would be difficult to make a target from T2 point to overwrite Simbiam serie 6.0 @!%@%@%#%$ :p
14:40 < Shingo--> I think rxr is this man. :)
15:05 < CIA-8> sebastian * r11768 /trunk/package/www/firefox/ (freetype.patch gcc-4.0.patch): * fixed firefox for new freetype and gcc4, imported from moz. bugzilla
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16:25 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc3 TAGGED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/
16:25 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Fri Sep 2 18:13:08 2005]
16:25 [Users #t2]
16:25 [@vilkacis] [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ nzg_] [ rxr_ ] [ sparc-kly]
16:25 [ _Ragnar_] [ karasz ] [ mnemoc] [ owl ] [ sepp_ ] [ valentin ]
16:25 [ CIA-8 ] [ lewellyn^] [ mtr_ ] [ rxr ] [ Shingo--]
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16:25 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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16:33 < rxr_> .oO(hopefully the Intel 2200 w-lan mini pci card has the matching RF connection - damn)
16:35 -!- You're now known as rxr
16:39 < CIA-8> rene * r11769 /trunk/package/base/gawk/invalid-free.patch:
16:39 < CIA-8> * fix invalid free() in gawk and thus the many glibc invalid pointer
16:39 < CIA-8> warning we recently see during Config runs
16:40 < Shingo--> gcc package compile it's remain with gcc 3.4.3? is this a wrong behaviour?
16:42 < rxr> ?
16:45 < mnemoc> rehi
16:49 < mnemoc> Shingo--: please rephrase
16:51 < Shingo--> sorry, mine -l show me mixed version of gcc installed. it's happens in firefox too. but I want to know if in gcc it ok?
16:52 < mnemoc> mine -l shows what finds on /var/adm/packages
16:52 < mnemoc> emerge is aditive, so previews files are preserved
16:52 < mnemoc> i.e. you will have every firefox and every gcc version you have ever installed
16:53 < mnemoc> what changes is which version was the last to replace the 'default binary'
16:54 < mnemoc> been the 'default binary' the one you call by hand and it's on your $PATH
16:55 < mnemoc> removing old files without removing config or damaging is not easy because 'orphan' detection can't be done simply seeing what the build writes on each build
16:57 < CIA-8> amery * r11770 /trunk/misc/archive/ (AuditBuild.sh RegressionsReport.sh): * changed RegressionsReport.sh to append .txt extension to files, making dumb webserver send the files as text/plain
16:59 < CIA-8> amery * r11771 /branches/2.1/misc/archive/ (AuditBuild.sh RegressionsReport.sh): * merged 11770 from trunk: changed RegressionsReport.sh to append .txt extension to files
17:01 < mipe> hmm, t2 has seperate website for spin off projects? thing like sf
17:02 < mnemoc> mipe: t2-powered.net :)
17:04 < mipe> nice, now i have to think nice project idea.
17:08 < mnemoc> :)
17:17 < valentin> moin
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17:28 < mnemoc> moin valentin
17:28 < valentin> hi mnemoc, how are you today ?
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17:30 < mnemoc> sick, cold but find?
17:30 < Baldzius> moin all :)
17:31 < SerWou> moin
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17:35 < mnemoc> s/find\?/fine!/
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17:35 < mnemoc> i write worse every day
17:40 < rxr> moin mnemoc
17:40 < mnemoc> moin rxr
17:40 < rxr> so - new mini pci wlan card in the sub notebook ....
17:40 < mnemoc> one that works?
17:41 < rxr> intel ipw2200
17:41 < rxr> so far it is recognized and the beast still boots
17:41 < mnemoc> goood :)
17:41 < rxr> now I need a kernel with ipw2200 build as module ,-)
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17:44 < rxr> mnemoc: the just commited gawk patch might be interesting for stable as well
17:44 * rxr shortly off to bank ...
17:44 < rxr> cu soonm
17:45 < mnemoc> rxr: for 3.1.4?
17:47 < rxr> the other gawk had the same issue
17:47 < rxr> I think some glibc or so check got harder
17:47 < rxr> if the patch applied to 3.1.4 I would add it
17:47 < mnemoc> ok
17:47 < mnemoc> i'll try it
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17:48 < rxr> # patch -p1 < ../package/base/gawk/invalid-free.patch
17:48 < rxr> patching file io.c
17:48 < rxr> Hunk #1 FAILED at 2480.
17:48 < rxr> Hunk #2 FAILED at 2498.
17:48 < rxr> hm
17:49 < rxr> hm - ok 3.1.4 doesn't have this bug
17:50 < mnemoc> did you review the code, or just because the hunks failed?
17:50 < rxr> I just retested
17:50 < rxr> 3.1.4 is _not_ affected
17:51 < rxr> it is 3.1.5
17:51 < rxr> must have been mistyped s.th. hours ago when I though 3.1.4 would also be affected
17:51 < mnemoc> :)
17:51 < rxr> so - if you update gawk, don't forget this patch ,-)
17:51 * rxr bank
17:52 < mnemoc> 11769 removed from my 'for reviewing' list
17:52 < mnemoc> cu rxr
17:54 < mnemoc> (banks close at 14:00 here, and only from monday to friday)
18:05 < valentin> damn, still stinking outside
18:06 < valentin> a big garbage dump was burning outside of berlin this night, and now it smells all the day
18:07 < mnemoc> oh
18:08 < rxr> re
18:08 < rxr> valentin: oh
18:08 < rxr> mnemoc: bankomat
18:08 < mnemoc> :)
18:09 < mnemoc> i guess those are 24x7 everywhere
18:09 < rxr> yeah just - downtime
18:09 < rxr> and on some the downtime is rather high
18:09 < rxr> guess due windows ce
18:09 < mnemoc> *g*
18:11 < valentin> rxr: do you know what happened to gsmp ?
18:11 < rxr> no
18:12 < rxr> since when is that down ?
18:12 < mnemoc> about 20h ago
18:12 < mnemoc> but nexus is up
18:13 < rxr> yeah - saw that
18:13 < rxr> strange
18:13 < rxr> maybe they blocked the IP ...
18:13 < mnemoc> at least i noticed 20h ago :)
18:13 < mnemoc> can you try via nexus?
18:13 < rxr> t2@nexus$ ping gsmp
18:13 < rxr> ping: socket: Operation not permitted
18:14 < mnemoc> o.o
18:14 < rxr> damn BSD
18:16 < valentin> netbsd even
18:18 < CIA-8> sebastian * r11772 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets/pango.patch: * fixed wxwidgets for new pango
18:20 < rxr> valentin: that is a free bsd box ...
18:20 < rxr> hm
18:20 < rxr> I can not ssh into gsmp
18:20 < rxr> strange
18:21 < rxr> t2@nexus$ wget gsmp.tfh-berlin.de
18:21 < rxr> --18:20:40-- http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/
18:21 < rxr> Connecting to gsmp.tfh-berlin.de|141.64.23.9|:80... connected.
18:21 < rxr> HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
18:21 < rxr> at least the problem is local - and not due to TFH admins deciding the traffic was too high
18:23 < rxr> damn - the keyboard is not perfectly placed in the notebook - now I have to depart the difficult case parts again - sigh
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18:43 < rxr> ok - wlan works
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18:44 * mnemoc watch rene jumping of joy around the room
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18:58 < rxr> mnemoc: well - sort off ...
18:58 < mnemoc> rxr: too tired to jump?
18:58 < rxr> wasted some hours, had to buy an additional wlan card (and that with 1/2 of the price of the card fo shipping -sigh) and had to open my laptop
18:59 < rxr> so this is the laptop I departed earliest
18:59 < rxr> the other models always overlived the warrenty cycle ...
18:59 < rxr> and I fear one stupid connector for the pannel buttons will not overlive one more departing ... :-(
19:01 * rxr wants an Intel Centrino sticker for the now Intel WIFI-enabled AMD Turion notebook *g*
19:05 < rxr> sepp: around ?
19:05 < sepp> yes
19:06 < rxr> sepp: you fixed firefox for freetype, do you work on mozilla and thunderbird, ... as well?
19:06 < rxr> or should I queue those ?
19:06 < sepp> no i dont want bloatzilla :(
19:08 < sepp> maybe the freetype patch applies to mozilla, who knows
19:08 * rxr neiter
19:08 < rxr> sepp: yeah - mayb
19:08 < rxr> e
19:08 < rxr> I also started to import patches for those issues - but they did not compile yet
19:09 < rxr> I queue to solve those ASAP
19:09 < rxr> (not that I would use those - just for the trunk stability ...)
19:09 < sepp> ;)
19:09 < rxr> I use yours as base and let my 64bit subnotebook crunch on those ...
19:11 < rxr> sepp: hm
19:11 < rxr> firefox still fills on x86-64
19:11 < rxr> gcc-4.0 strictness with casts ....
19:12 < sepp> ohh it works on my x86 notebook
19:13 < rxr> I think I have the patch handy ...
19:13 < rxr> in the WIP mozilla dir - second
19:13 < rxr> .o(doomed mozilla code duplication ...)
19:14 < mnemoc> mozilla and openoffice are the worst projects i have even known
19:14 < mnemoc> ever*
19:14 < rxr> yeah - and both have been commercial ...
19:14 < mnemoc> administrativly talking
19:14 < mnemoc> oh, true
19:15 < rxr> mnemoc: btw. you have not seen this leaked windows source?
19:15 < rxr> that was evil ...
19:15 < rxr> or the original DOS fdisk - shiffer
19:16 < CIA-8> sebastian * r11773 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets24/ (gcc-4.0.patch pango.patch): * fixed wxwidgets24 for new pango and gcc4, gcc4 patch imported from fedora core
19:23 < rxr> h
19:23 < rxr> hm - even
19:23 < rxr> now the wlan card got into some firmware error -> reset cycle ..
19:23 < rxr> grummel
19:23 < rxr> those new worl wifi stuff does not like me
19:24 < rxr> sepp: hm - firefox still does not built on x86-64 - the same I had before - lots of invalid access to no-static data member i nsFreeType.cpp
19:25 < CIA-8> rene * r11774 /trunk/package/www/firefox/gcc-4.0.patch: * added additional gcc-4 fixes to firefox, imported from Fedora Core
19:26 < sepp> uhm
19:26 < rxr> hm - now the mini pci thing works again
19:26 < rxr> strange
19:26 < rxr> well - I'll see the next days ...
19:27 < mnemoc> recalibration?
19:30 < rxr> ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarting.
19:30 < rxr> ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarting.
19:30 < rxr> does not look like [[ *calibration* ]]
19:30 < mnemoc> outch
19:34 < rxr> you name it
19:35 * rxr soon away
19:37 < mipe> damm, linux26 fails on stage 1
19:38 < mipe> hmm, same problem as before...i686-t2-linux-gnu-kcc: command not found
19:38 < mipe> on building nvidia module
19:40 < mipe> so $KCC is set wrong? shouldnt it be *-gcc not *-kcc
19:42 < mipe> since theres no -kcc found on, only -gcc
19:48 < mipe> so should package/x11/nvidia/postlinux.conf contain var_append makeopt " " "CC=$CC" and not var_append makeopt " " "CC=$KCC"?
20:11 * mnemoc just forked linux-2.6.11.12 ... hand shaking
20:11 < mnemoc> hands*
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22:05 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11775 /trunk/package/network/irssi/include.patch: * fixed bogus include statement
22:27 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11776 /trunk/package/ruby/rmagick/rmagick.desc: * updated rmagick (1.9.0 -> 1.9.1)
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23:43 < sepp> rxr: with freetype.patch and your updated gcc-4.0.patch mozilla works at least on a x86, sorry no amd64 to test here ...
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