--- Log opened Mon Aug 29 00:00:25 2005 02:26 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.243.46] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 04:16 -!- keinek_ [n=keinek@201.254.15.176] has joined #t2 04:30 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.255.149.8] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:48 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.198.16.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 04:53 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.198.199.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:19 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:48 -!- menomc [n=amery@200.75.27.51] has joined #t2 05:58 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.38] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:05 -!- keinek_ [n=keinek@201.254.15.176] has quit ["Abandonando"] 06:49 < rxr> moin 06:53 < menomc> moin rxr 07:00 < rxr> menomc: menomc 07:00 < rxr> CIA ? 07:01 -!- menomc is now known as mnemoc 07:01 < mnemoc> [23:21:00] ωνω Signoff CIA-9: #t2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:01 < mnemoc> 1:40h ago 07:02 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 07:13 < mnemoc> CIA-9: wb 07:39 < rxr> grummel 07:39 < rxr> damn moutils junk code 07:52 < mnemoc> moutils? 07:54 < rxr> needed gcc-4 fixes ... 07:54 < mnemoc> even more stricter C compiler? 07:57 < rxr> yes 07:57 < rxr> but I think not too much stricted 07:57 < rxr> er 07:58 < mnemoc> i'll go to sleep now, i'll try to tag rc3 today... 08:00 < rxr> ok 08:00 < rxr> sleep wel 08:00 < rxr> l 08:45 < Baldzius> good morning :) 09:49 < rxr> re 09:49 < rxr> moin Baldzius 09:50 < Baldzius> hi rxr 09:50 < Baldzius> have a min? 09:50 < rxr> jups 09:50 < Baldzius> what abou packages with artistic license? 09:50 < Baldzius> aren't they welcome or what? 09:51 < rxr> Linux 2.6.13 09:51 < Baldzius> d4x 09:51 < rxr> artistic ? 09:52 < Baldzius> yes 09:52 < Baldzius> Artistic 09:53 < Baldzius> paranoia checks complains 09:54 < rxr> I do not know Artistic licenses 09:54 < rxr> the paranoia check is to uncover typos 09:54 < rxr> you can freely add the new license to the scripts .... 09:54 < Baldzius> i coudn't find where :) 09:56 < rxr> $ grep LGPL scripts/* misc/share/* 09:56 < rxr> scripts/Check-PkgFormat: Unknown|GPL|LGPL|MPL|FDL|MIT|BSD|APL|APSL) ;; 09:56 < rxr> misc/share/REGISTER: LGPL The GNU Library General Public Licence 09:57 < Baldzius> gg :) 09:57 < rxr> near those ,-) 10:03 -!- karasz [n=root@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 10:04 -!- karasz [n=root@80.97.102.202] has left #t2 ["Konversation terminated!"] 10:08 < CIA-9> rene * r11366 /trunk/package/base/prelink/prelink.desc: * updated prelink (20041123 -> 20050610) 10:16 < Baldzius> rxr: one more question, i have always abort if package build fails option selected , but with Emerge-Pkg it keeps building 10:16 < Baldzius> build-target works good 10:18 < Baldzius> any ideas?:) 10:21 < rxr> Baldzius: what option selected do you mean? 10:22 < Baldzius> abort on error after 10:22 < Baldzius> build system configuration 10:22 < Baldzius> ant then first line 10:23 < Baldzius> (9) Always abort if package-build fails 10:25 < rxr> Baldzius: i need more details about the problem you have 10:27 < Baldzius> you see when i use build-target scripts with that option if package build fails build process stops 10:27 < Baldzius> if i use emerge-pkg it tries to build next package 10:27 < rxr> ah - ok, ic 10:27 < Baldzius> but i want it to stop like build-target 10:27 < rxr> and what do you want? that Emerge stopps as well ? 10:27 < Baldzius> yes 10:27 < rxr> Baldzius: ic 10:27 < Baldzius> pls :) 10:27 < rxr> would be easy to implement, do you do? 10:28 < Baldzius> i can try but can't promise :) 10:29 < Baldzius> but this feature i really need :) 10:36 < rxr> ok I add it 10:36 < rxr> one second 10:38 < rxr> you mean "Continue if package-build fails after stage 4" 10:38 < rxr> ? 10:39 < Baldzius> yeah 10:39 < Baldzius> but i set it to 9 10:39 < Baldzius> to always 10:43 < jsaw> re 10:45 < rxr> moin jsaw 10:45 < rxr> jsaw: thanks for the pointer - fixed switch_root 10:45 < rxr> I already imagined it would be in that area but had no time left to take a look 10:47 < rxr> == 08/29/05 10:45:10 =[9]=> Aborted building package minised. 10:47 < rxr> Aborting further builds due to config setting ABORT_ON_ERROR_AFTER. 10:48 < CIA-9> rene * r11367 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: * implemmented "abort on error" supoprt for Emerge-Pkg on user request 10:48 < rxr> Baldzius: have fun - I hope it works for you 10:49 < Baldzius> rxr: thanks :) 10:49 < Baldzius> i am also trying my implementation :) 10:49 < Baldzius> curiuos is it working :) 10:52 < Baldzius> heh mine works :) 10:53 < Baldzius> as i wanted 10:56 < Baldzius> i just added [ $? = 1 ] && exit -1 10:57 < Baldzius> i have -fetch-only option in mine Emerge-Pkg should i pass patch to ML? 10:57 < Baldzius> or maybe this option isn't needed 10:57 < Baldzius> i am using it alot 10:58 < rxr> Baldzius: send a patch and see what comments you get 11:00 < Baldzius> rxr: ok 11:03 < jsaw> got distracted, re 11:03 < Baldzius> :) 11:03 < jsaw> rxr: good 11:04 < jsaw> hi Baldzius 11:04 < Baldzius> hi jsaw 11:05 < jsaw> have to deliver thesis... then sleep, cu tomorrow :) 11:05 < Baldzius> sweet dreams :) 11:07 < rxr> cu jsaw 11:07 < rxr> and much luck with your thesis 11:09 < CIA-9> rene * r11368 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.12.5 -> 2.6.13) 11:29 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 11:29 < morfoh> moin 11:29 < Baldzius> hi morfoh :) 11:30 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :) 11:31 < morfoh> is our "birthday child" around ? 11:31 < Baldzius> who's that? 11:32 < morfoh> le petit "mnemonkey" :) 11:32 < Baldzius> :))))) 11:32 < Baldzius> ic 11:32 < Baldzius> ok away :) 11:48 < rxr> morfoh: mnemoc 's birthday ? 11:55 < morfoh> moin rxr :) 11:55 < morfoh> rxr: yep ... today is mnemoc's birthday 12:03 < rxr> we need a calender for those on http://www.t2-project.org 12:06 < morfoh> rxr: perhaps ... 12:15 < morfoh> rxr: in fact I'd like to avoid placing personal information in public 12:16 < morfoh> rxr: it's ok for me if we would have an internal calendar 12:21 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 12:25 < rxr> yeah - the usual "don't forget this and that birthday, ... at that day" 12:25 < karasz> hi * 12:28 < rxr> hi karasz 12:28 < karasz> hi rxr 12:29 < karasz> rxr: any news about ticket #57? 12:36 < rxr> karasz: oehm 12:41 < rxr> karasz: do you have "/dev/misc/agpgart" = 12:41 < rxr> ? even 12:45 < karasz> yes 12:45 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:45 < karasz> `/dev/misc/agpgart` 12:48 < morfoh> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg ref21 12:48 < morfoh> 1627 builds total, 1602 completed fine, 25 with errors. 12:52 < Baldzius> morfoh: trunk? 12:52 < morfoh> nope 2.1 12:53 < Baldzius> hehe i get 25 error's installing 1 package on trunk :) 12:53 < Baldzius> joke :) 13:10 < rxr> == 13:00:01 =[5]=> Building base/gcc [4.0.1 2.2.0-alpha]. 13:10 < karasz> rxr: as i pointed out in the ticket the solution is to make a link in `/dev` from `/dev/misc/` but i do not know how to make this automaticaly at boot time 13:10 < rxr> karasz: you use 2.1, right ? 13:10 < karasz> rc2 13:10 < karasz> 2.1.0 rc2 to be exact 13:11 < karasz> made a mnemosyne target isos and then i installed it 13:13 < morfoh> hi karasz 13:13 < karasz> hi mr morfoh :) 13:14 < morfoh> delete the "mr" ;) 13:16 < karasz> hi morfoh :) 13:18 < rxr> karasz: does grep misc /etc/devfsd.d/* yield anything on your box ? 13:19 < karasz> i do not have a `/etc/devfs.d` on my box 13:20 < morfoh> karasz: oh! that doesn't sound good 13:20 < morfoh> karasz: do you use a t2 standard kernel ? 13:21 < karasz> yes 13:21 < morfoh> rxr: you've disabled devfs by default just on trunk, right ? 13:21 < karasz> from what i remember it is standard 13:22 < rxr> karasz: then install devfsd ... ,-) 13:22 < rxr> that should fiy oyur /dev/agpgar 13:22 < rxr> t 13:22 < rxr> isn't devfsd not included in mnemosynce sss 13:22 < rxr> ? even 13:22 < morfoh> rxr: I think it is included 13:22 < morfoh> mommentz 13:24 * karasz is Emerging devfsd 13:25 < morfoh> hmmm ... no devfsd 13:27 < karasz> now i have devfsd 13:27 < karasz> should i edit compat and follow jsaw's instructions? 13:32 < rxr> default install should be enough 13:33 < rxr> but make sure devfsd is running after bootup 13:33 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: morfoh, valentin, jsaw, @vilkacis, _Ragnar_, karasz, sepp_, mnemoc 13:33 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: SerWou, Baldzius, nzg 13:52 -!- rxr [i=rene@e178128105.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 13:52 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 13:52 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005] 13:52 [Users #t2] 13:52 [ [Kosh] ] [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ SerWou ] 13:52 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ nzg ] [ sepp] [ valentin] 13:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 13:52 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 13:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 7 secs 14:06 -!- SerWou [n=SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:07 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 14:30 -!- SerWou [n=SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 15:06 < karasz> rxr: the code proposed by jsaw is needed 15:12 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, SerWou, karasz, Shingo--, sepp, Baldzius, mnemoc 15:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: karasz 15:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Shingo--, jsaw 15:14 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc, sepp, Baldzius 15:14 -!- Netsplit lem.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, karasz, Baldzius, sepp, Shingo--, mnemoc 15:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: karasz 15:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: mnemoc, sepp, Baldzius 15:15 -!- SerWou [n=SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 15:16 -!- rxr [i=rene@e178128105.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 15:16 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+ns] by orwell.freenode.net 15:16 [Users #t2] 15:16 [ rxr] 15:16 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 1 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1 normal] 15:16 -!- Channel #t2 created Mon Aug 29 15:16:25 2005 15:16 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 7 secs 15:18 !orwell.freenode.net *** Notice -- TS for #t2 changed from 1125321385 to 1091992533 15:18 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [-s] by irc.freenode.net 15:18 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@mail.oberlinhaus.de] has joined #t2 15:18 -!- irc.freenode.net changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 15:18 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 15:18 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 15:18 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@84.46.226.121] has joined #t2 15:18 -!- sepp [n=sepp@213.54.198.16] has joined #t2 15:18 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.51] has joined #t2 15:18 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 15:19 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh_nar@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 15:19 -!- _Ragnar_ [i=loki@216.250.77.230] has joined #t2 15:19 -!- valentin [n=valentin@port-212-202-41-64.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 15:19 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: valentin, jsaw, morfoh, [Kosh], _Ragnar_, karasz, Shingo--, sepp, Baldzius, mnemoc 15:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: valentin, _Ragnar_, karasz, mnemoc, sepp, Baldzius, Shingo--, jsaw 15:21 -!- SerWou [n=SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 15:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: [Kosh], morfoh 15:22 < rxr> cool - found the what problem X has in 64bit mode on my notebook 15:22 < rxr> == usable X again 15:23 -!- nzg [n=tschmidt@xchangecenter.de] has joined #t2 15:23 < rxr> hi nzg 15:25 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@84.46.226.121] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:36 < karasz> a@s 15:45 < morfoh> mnemoc: ping 15:50 < rxr> http://news.google.de/?ned=de&topic=t 15:51 < rxr> ^- the kernel news of me listed ... ,-) 15:52 < morfoh> rxr: oh! :) 15:52 < morfoh> rxr: did you found/fixed sth. over the weekend 15:53 < rxr> morfoh: what specifically ? 15:54 -!- SerWou [n=SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:54 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@84.46.226.121] has joined #t2 15:54 < morfoh> rxr: regarding the kernel problems you had 15:54 < rxr> yes 15:54 < rxr> even mailed the list 15:54 -!- SerWou [n=SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 15:54 < morfoh> rxr: in short, what was the problem ? ;) 15:55 < rxr> and my new notebook is running in 64bit mode now ... though X not perfectly 15:55 < rxr> morfoh: kernel hackers brain damageness - one must not pivot root the rootfs from / - several loops in the kernel rely on it 15:55 < rxr> I had to frickle around with mount MS_MOVE and chroot() in a C helper to get a simillar result ... 15:56 < rxr> that was formerly done by a few lines of shell code ... 15:56 < SerWou> afternoon guyts 15:56 < rxr> hi SerWou 15:56 < morfoh> bonjour SerWou :) 16:12 -!- rxr [i=rene@e178180249.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 16:12 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 16:12 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005] 16:12 [Users #t2] 16:12 [ [Kosh] ] [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ nzg] [ sepp ] [ Shingo--] 16:12 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr] [ SerWou] [ valentin] 16:12 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 16:12 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 16:12 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 7 secs 16:14 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=8714658&forum_id=83921# 16:41 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, SerWou, [Kosh], karasz, Shingo--, sepp, Baldzius, mnemoc 16:42 -!- rxr [i=rene@e178180249.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 16:42 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 16:42 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005] 16:42 [Users #t2] 16:42 [ _Ragnar_] [ nzg] [ rxr] [ valentin] 16:42 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 4 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 4 normal] 16:42 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 16:42 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 7 secs 16:42 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@84.46.226.121] has joined #t2 16:42 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 16:43 -!- SerWou [n=SerWou@lafilaire-3-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 16:43 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh_nar@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 16:43 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 16:43 -!- jsaw [n=jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 16:43 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@200.75.27.51] has joined #t2 16:43 -!- sepp [n=sepp@213.54.198.16] has joined #t2 16:43 < valentin> rxr: is this "the" schily ? 16:46 < valentin> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=8715141&forum_id=83921 16:46 < mnemoc> moin 16:47 < valentin> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=8715618&forum_id=83921 16:47 < valentin> moin mnemoc 16:47 < mnemoc> moin valentin 16:51 < valentin> hehe: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=8717059&forum_id=83921 16:51 < rxr> valentin: think so 16:51 < rxr> I read teh whole thread ... 16:52 < rxr> welcome back mnemoc - and happy birthday ! 16:52 < valentin> happy birthday ? 16:52 < valentin> congrats mnemoc 16:55 < mnemoc> :p 16:55 < mnemoc> thanks rxr, valentin 17:07 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: jsaw, valentin, SerWou, [Kosh], karasz, _Ragnar_, sepp, Shingo--, Baldzius, nzg, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 17:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Baldzius, karasz, SerWou, [Kosh], Shingo--, jsaw, mnemoc, sepp 17:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nzg, _Ragnar_, valentin 17:11 < mnemoc> rxr: pcmciautils <--- udev only? 17:11 < rxr> mnemoc: why? 17:11 < rxr> at least linux 2.6.13-rc1 and above only ... 17:11 < mnemoc> just wondering 17:11 < mnemoc> ok 17:12 < mnemoc> not for me yet ;) 17:12 < rxr> you know - good APIs are changing APIs ... 17:12 < mnemoc> ^_^ 17:16 < rxr> gcc-4 build looks better than I imagined ... 17:17 < rxr> though some stuff to fix obviously ... 17:17 < rxr> I think I really go the way to migrate to modular X and then stabelize til November 17:18 < mnemoc> what about a table comparing features and architecture of 2.0,2.1 and 2.2? 17:18 < mnemoc> core aspects only 17:19 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/roadmap.html 17:19 < rxr> ^- updated and prettified then ? 17:20 < mnemoc> i'll try to do something after 2.1.0 17:21 < mnemoc> i would like: ROCK-3.x | ROCK-2.0 | T2-2.1 | T2-2.2 | T2-2.3 | T2-2.x 17:22 < rxr> ROCK-3.x what ? 17:22 < mnemoc> their work after ROCK-2.0 17:24 < rxr> they manage to hide that info very well 17:25 < mnemoc> i think blindcoder and daja are very open to write a ROCK-3.x vs. 2.0 table 17:28 < valentin> http://www.worldenergy.org/wec-geis/publications/default/tech_papers/17th_congress/2_1_08.asp 17:28 < valentin> cite: 17:28 < valentin> The better knowledge of the relation ship rock-T2 distribution should help to obtain forecasts that are closer to reality. 17:31 < mnemoc> :p 17:45 < rxr> valentin: if you have a sleepless night, on haudraufinix is a reference buildi running (in /mnt/space/src/t2-trunk/...) 17:45 < rxr> that needs some gcc-4.0.x patches ,-) 17:46 < mnemoc> :) 17:52 < _Ragnar_> moin 17:52 < mnemoc> moin _Ragnar_ 17:52 < _Ragnar_> hi mnemoc 18:20 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 18:23 < rxr> cu 18:25 < mnemoc> cu rxr 18:28 < Baldzius> happy birthday mnemoc :) 18:29 < mnemoc> thx Baldzius 18:33 < mnemoc> i just noticed _Ragnar_ fixed mtr :p 18:39 < CIA-8> amery * r11378 /trunk/package/base/runit/runit.desc: * updated runit (1.3.0 -> 1.3.1) 19:07 -!- bfg [n=bfg@chello080109010143.16.14.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2 19:07 < bfg> Hi 19:08 < mnemoc> hi gweis 19:08 < bfg> how about removing the as-needed inmake-hack in glibc.conf in favour using NO-AS-NEEDED flag? 19:09 < mnemoc> inmake = between make and make install 19:10 < mnemoc> so, --as-needed is used during make.... 19:10 < bfg> yes, the Wl,-as-needed is only removed for make install, because the testinallation-script of glibc fails with this flag 19:11 < mnemoc> is good to have --as-needed on glibc? 19:11 < bfg> i'm not sure, but i think, glibc is really a base library and shouldn't have too much indirect deps to other libs 19:12 < mnemoc> so --as-needed doesn't help glibc... NO-AS-NEEDED i guess. 19:13 < bfg> i will give it a closer look, but i think it makes not a big difference 19:15 < mnemoc> :) 19:29 < bfg> ok ldd shows no difference between with as-needed and without it. so i guess it makes no difference 19:36 < mnemoc> :) 19:46 < mnemoc> bfg: is everything you sent to ML commited? 19:46 < mnemoc> bfg: or 'solved' 20:30 -!- karasz_ [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 20:30 -!- karasz [n=chatzill@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:30 -!- karasz_ is now known as karasz 20:45 < bfg> mnemoc: all of my patches on ML are solved. some i wan't to rework and retest :). 20:45 < bfg> mnemoc: not all are applied, but that is ok. if i'm not sure i resend them or i will apply them by my self 21:07 < CIA-8> gweis * r11379 /trunk/package/base/glibc/ (glibc.conf glibc.desc): 21:07 < CIA-8> * changed glibc to use NO-AS-NEEDED flag, because it makes no difference 21:07 < CIA-8> whether it is built with --as-needed or without, and installation 21:07 < CIA-8> procedure doesn't like --as-needed 21:13 -!- sepp [n=sepp@213.54.198.16] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:29 -!- bfg [n=bfg@chello080109010143.16.14.univie.teleweb.at] has quit ["Verlassend"] 21:37 < CIA-8> amery * r11380 /branches/2.1/package/audio/taglib/taglib.desc: * merged 10855 from trunk: updated taglib (1.3.1 -> 1.4) 21:38 < CIA-8> amery * r11381 /branches/2.1/package/audio/xmms/xmms.conf: * merged 11374 from trunk: fixed xmms to create the global Skin directory 21:42 -!- lars__ [n=lars@port-212-202-41-64.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 21:44 < mnemoc> hi lars__ 21:45 < lars__> hi, 21:45 < valentin> hi lars__ *yawn* 21:45 < lars__> I have a question about konqueror. It behaves strange here. 21:46 < mnemoc> valentin: any idea what to do with a graphic-only installer? 21:46 < lars__> It takes a lot of time to load pages, particularly if they contain lots of images. 21:46 < valentin> mnemoc: i have one already, though it is for a spin-off project 21:46 < lars__> I already was blaming my ISP, but now I noticed that firefox does not have that problem 21:46 < valentin> mnemoc: "install" the live-cd on HD 21:47 < mnemoc> valentin: :D 21:47 < mnemoc> lars__: no threads? 21:47 < lars__> what means no threads? 21:47 < valentin> mnemoc: i could package it for t2-trunk but it is too incomplete and only allows for simple installations 21:47 < valentin> lars__: did you build your kde stuff without threading support 21:48 < lars__> I dont know I used t2. 21:48 < lars__> It seems that it depends somehow on DNS, because the conf page of my router loads fast by ip but slow by name. 21:49 < mnemoc> # ldd build/ref-2.1.0-rc3-x86-pentium4-generic/opt/kde3/bin/konqueror | grep thread libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7f50000) 21:49 < lars__> How I can figure out if I compiled it with threads 21:50 < mnemoc> ldd /opt/kde3/bin/konqueror | grep thread 21:50 < mnemoc> valentin: simple installation = install everything ? 21:50 < valentin> mnemoc: yes 21:51 < mnemoc> valentin: sounds good to me :) 21:51 < valentin> the installer lists all partitions available and you choose exactly one *g*, optionally format it and then "dump" live cd as is. after that bootloader and some config stuff is autogenerated 21:52 < valentin> a customer wanted it like that 21:52 < lars__> mnemoc: libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0. What does this mean? 21:52 < valentin> lars__: it is linked against libpthread 21:52 < lars__> ok, and what does that mean? 21:53 < valentin> i think it uses threads :) 21:53 < lars__> and how might that relate to my problem? 21:53 < valentin> it seems like you have another problem 21:53 < valentin> which version of kde ? 21:54 < mnemoc> lars__: loading the same page buy by ip helps? 21:54 < mnemoc> s/buy/but/ 21:54 < lars__> kde version: 3.4.0 21:55 < valentin> lars__: i compiled the new kde inside trunk and anything works 21:55 < valentin> mnemoc: good idea, try it 21:55 < valentin> mnemoc: good idea, try it lars 21:55 < mnemoc> :) 21:55 < valentin> need some sleep. janna was quite active theese days 21:55 < mnemoc> btw, 2.1-stable branch has 3.4.2 21:56 < lars__> yes, at least in the case of the configuration site of my router. With ip it load fast, without it load the first peace fast and then it needs more than a minute for the rest. 21:57 < lars__> valentin, mnemoc: I am a bit afraid of building it again in trunk. I fear, that Emerge-Pkg will update half of my system and after that it is more broken than it was before... 21:58 < mnemoc> lars__: use 2.1-stable branch 21:58 < valentin> lars__: you know -deps=none ? 21:58 < valentin> lars__: how fast is http://193.99.144.85 loading compared to www.heise.de ? 22:00 < lars__> ok, maybe I should try, but my system is such an "I have an iso and I need someone who tests it, there are only some packages broken..." from Rene, it is rather old and I had to Emerge already a lot in it. Maybe I really need a fresh t2 build... 22:01 < valentin> :D 22:01 < valentin> lars__: i know those rene isos ;) but in general rene makes a very good job fixing stuff for t2 22:01 < lars__> valentin: with ip it is definitively faster. 22:02 < mnemoc> so the problem is on the resolver 22:02 < valentin> maybe your dns sucks ? and firefox does more caching ? 22:02 < mnemoc> mozilla has it's own resolver 22:02 < lars__> what package uses kde dns 22:03 < lars__> maybe it is related to the fact that I has no host command on my system? 22:04 < mnemoc> lars__: no, it's done by a library, not executing a command 22:04 -!- vilkacis [n=supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has joined #t2 22:04 -!- mode/#t2 [+o vilkacis] by ChanServ 22:04 < lars__> yes, but what library is it (maybe host belongs to the same package as that library?) 22:06 < mnemoc> /lib/libresolv.so.2 22:06 < lars__> maybe emergin it is a good idea? 22:07 < mnemoc> glibc 22:08 < lars__> oh, is it part of glibc? So I think I will ask Rene for his new ppc isos and install a new system. 22:10 < mnemoc> seems so 22:11 < CIA-8> amery * r11382 /branches/2.1/package/audio/sox/sox.desc: * merged 11230 from trunk: updated sox (12.17.7 -> 12.17.8) 22:11 < valentin> so, i need some sleep now. greetings to your family lars. 22:12 < valentin> and have a nice birthday, mnemoc 22:12 < mnemoc> cu valentin, greetings to yours :) 22:13 < valentin> thx, gn8 22:16 < lars__> valentin: greetings to your family. I hope Janna will sleep well tonight... 22:16 < lars__> greetings from pamela, too. 22:17 < lars__> mnemoc, you have birthday? today? 22:18 < mnemoc> lars__: yes 22:20 < lars__> so, greetings from me! how old are you now? 22:22 < mnemoc> 27 ;) 22:22 < mnemoc> and you? 22:23 < lars__> 30 ;)) 22:23 < CIA-8> amery * r11383 /branches/2.1/package/audio/sweep/ (sweep.conf sweep.desc): * merged 11215,11216 from trunk: updated sweep (0.8.3 -> 0.8.4) 22:23 < mnemoc> lars__: sorry ;) 22:24 < lars__> oh, thinks happen... 22:25 < mnemoc> only a matter of time :( 22:27 < rxr> re 22:27 < rxr> hi lars__ ! 22:28 < CIA-8> amery * r11384 /branches/2.1/package/audio/xmp/xmp.desc: * merged 11245 from trunk: marked xmp for FPIC-QUIRK 22:30 < rxr> lars__: you get the ISO tomorrow 22:30 < CIA-8> amery * r11385 /branches/2.1/package/audio/tse3/tse3_type.patch: * merged 11244 from trunk: fixed tse3 for x86_64 by doing some casts 22:31 < mnemoc> rxr: can i take a helper from debian? (xvfb-run) 22:31 < rxr> oehm 22:31 < rxr> what does it do? 22:31 < rxr> firefox component registration? 22:31 < lars__> hi rene, thanks, seems that I really need them. They are 2.1 or trunk based? 22:31 < mnemoc> rxr: no no.... 22:32 < mnemoc> rxr: xvfb is a virtual x server (without output) 22:32 < mnemoc> rxr: and xvfb-run is a wrapper to execute something on xvfb and return the error level of that something 22:33 < mnemoc> to be able to package packages with graphic installer 22:33 < mnemoc> http://gaphor.sourceforge.net/ <--- this bastard 22:33 < rxr> like firefox component registration 22:33 < mnemoc> :D 22:34 < mnemoc> i have forgot that 22:34 < mnemoc> yes we could run firefox once on the sandbox 22:39 < rxr> what do you want, pacakge it or tiny enough for diect usage? 22:40 < mnemoc> http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/xvfb-run 22:40 < mnemoc> now i'm building xorg with xvfb enabled and a hook to install that on $bindir 22:40 < mnemoc> that doesn't deserve a package imo 22:46 < rxr> ok / athlon nicely building trunk gcc-4 reference 22:46 * rxr needs sleep n8 - cu early ... 22:47 < mnemoc> gn8 rxr 22:50 < lars__> need to sleep, too. Bey 22:51 < mnemoc> gn8 lars__ 22:52 < CIA-8> amery * r11386 /branches/2.1/package/base/binutils/ld-glob.patch: * merged 11231 from trunk: fixed posible type mismatch on binutils/ld-glob.patch 22:53 < CIA-8> amery * r11387 /branches/2.1/package/base/file/file.desc: * merged 11220 from trunk: updated file (4.13 -> 4.15) 22:55 -!- lars__ [n=lars@port-212-202-41-64.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit ["leaving"] 23:01 < CIA-8> amery * r11388 /branches/2.1/package/base/ (man/man.desc man-pages/man-pages.desc): 23:01 < CIA-8> * merged 11219 from trunk: updated man (1.6 -> 1.6a) 23:01 < CIA-8> * merged 10429 from trunk: updated man-pages (2.04 -> 2.07) 23:04 < CIA-8> amery * r11389 /branches/2.1/package/base/ (acl/acl.desc attr/attr.desc): 23:04 < CIA-8> * merged 10823 from trunk: updated attr (2.4.20 -> 2.4.23) 23:04 < CIA-8> * merged 10772 from trunk: updated acl (2.2.28 -> 2.2.31) 23:14 < CIA-8> amery * r11390 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/ (xorg-conf.in xorg.conf xvfb-run): * enabled Xvfb on xorg (3.4M), and added xvfb-run from debian 23:23 < mnemoc> wtf is morpho?1 23:26 < Baldzius> he appears here time by time 23:27 < mnemoc> where the f* :) 23:27 < mnemoc> not what the f* ;) 23:28 < Baldzius> what's happening? :) 23:30 < mnemoc> he is hidding 23:50 < _Ragnar_> re 23:51 < mnemoc> how bad is epiphany? 23:57 < Baldzius> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables 23:57 < Baldzius> heh gcc 4.0.1 :) 23:57 < _Ragnar_> *lol* oops ;) 23:58 < mnemoc> :p 23:58 < mnemoc> Baldzius: don't you like trunk? ;) 23:58 < Baldzius> hehehe 23:58 < Baldzius> still do :) 23:58 < _Ragnar_> :D 23:58 < mnemoc> Baldzius: review config.log 23:58 < Baldzius> each day smtg new :) --- Log closed Tue Aug 30 00:00:25 2005