--- Log opened Sat Aug 27 00:00:00 2005 00:34 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11318 /trunk/package/graphic/xchm/xchm.desc: * updated xchm (1.0 -> 1.1) 00:36 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11319 /trunk/package/games/torcs/torcs.desc: * updated torcs (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4) 00:43 < sepp> good night all 01:02 -!- karasz [n=root@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:02 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #t2 01:44 < CIA-9> ragnar * r11320 /trunk/package/network/mtr/mtr.conf: * fix broken mtr configure that uses res_mkquery without including resolv.h 04:06 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.254.14.180] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:12 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 04:15 -!- vilkacis [n=supybot@ip4.conosurseguros.cl] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:17 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.255.150.107] has joined #t2 04:26 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh_nar@201.36.98.165] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:48 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.201.25.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 04:49 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.197.219.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:54 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFAC8A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:56 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-34-250-9.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 05:10 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AF8868.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:16 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.243.46] has joined #t2 05:28 -!- madtux [n=mike@205.211.214.173] has joined #t2 05:29 -!- madtux [n=mike@205.211.214.173] has quit [Client Quit] 05:55 -!- keinek [n=keinek@201.255.150.107] has quit ["Abandonando"] 07:00 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-34-250-9.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 07:02 < rxr> re 07:19 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.243.46] has quit ["Get MacIrssi - http://www.g1m0.se/macirssi/"] 07:51 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 07:56 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@84.46.226.121] has joined #t2 07:57 < Baldzius> good morning :) 08:02 < Shingo--> moin 08:08 < Baldzius> moin Shingo-- 08:34 < CIA-9> rene * r11321 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh: 08:34 < CIA-9> * more usability, progress bars and sanity checks for the 08:34 < CIA-9> archivista/install.sh 08:42 < rxr> hm 08:42 < rxr> fedora core crap does not like my usb keyboard I use for dROCK ROCK and T2 installs since ages 08:42 < rxr> what pseudo user friendly f*ck is that ... 08:43 < Baldzius> dunno , never 've used fedora :) 08:46 < rxr> usb mice the same 08:48 < rxr> minimal fedora instal: 979MB !!!! 08:48 < rxr> what the heck .... 08:48 < rxr> 97MB .... 08:48 < rxr> my oh my ... 08:48 < rxr> for tiny router and firewalls ... 08:48 < rxr> 979MB ... 08:48 < _Ragnar_> *rofl* 08:48 < rxr> and I need CD 1 2 and 3 08:49 < rxr> some sane sorted system would help to only instal a minimal from one CD ... 08:50 < _Ragnar_> do we have that? :) 08:50 < rxr> did i mention my USB input peripherals do not even work ... 08:50 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AFAC8A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 08:50 < rxr> _Ragnar_: a minimal on one CD? yes 08:50 < _Ragnar_> I mean, all important packages on the 1st cd 08:50 < rxr> no - but at least it is on my TODO ,-) 08:51 < _Ragnar_> ;) 09:16 < _Ragnar_> er druckt nicht! 09:16 < _Ragnar_> oops;) 09:17 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 09:17 < minto_> morning all 09:18 < rxr> moin 09:19 < minto_> hi rxr, how are things going? 09:23 < rxr> the fedora router / firewall minimal installed the -de langpack for openoffice.org 09:23 < rxr> minto_: so lala ... 09:25 < _Ragnar_> did it install oo, too? 09:26 < minto_> Nice, so you can write documents on your router/firewall :D 09:27 < minto_> rxr: Noisy is up and running, so if you wanna play around with it, be my guest :) 09:27 < rxr> minto_: thanks 09:27 < rxr> when I have more time ... 09:28 < rxr> minto_: I have a x86-64 sub-notebook now ... 09:28 < rxr> msi s270 09:28 < rxr> AMD Turion inside 09:30 < minto_> :) Nice, so x86-64 will be fully supported soon :) 09:30 < rxr> hehe 09:30 < _Ragnar_> there's still a way to go for that O_O 09:30 < rxr> think so 09:31 < rxr> yes - e.g. apr-util and thus subversion failed here due to openldap not being linked correctly against sasl2 ... 09:31 < rxr> does anyone else see that ? 09:31 < _Ragnar_> when did you try that? 09:32 < rxr> i built trunk / desktop for x86-64 ... 09:32 < rxr> yesterday ... 09:33 < rxr> _Ragnar_: no - it did not instal the full OOo AFAICS - and also no X 09:33 < rxr> but the de OOo langpack .. 09:33 < _Ragnar_> subversion works for my build 09:34 < _Ragnar_> that's why I wonder, I thought I fixed that 09:37 < rxr> the problem is that libtool or so bails during openldap build that -lsasl2 is not found and thus the LDAP library has no sasl reference which yields to unresolved symbols when other stuff (apr-util) tries to link against -lldap 09:38 < rxr> _Ragnar_: do you run X on x86-64? 09:38 < _Ragnar_> yeas 09:39 < rxr> oki 09:39 * rxr soon too 09:41 < Shingo--> rxr: there's any problem if gcc compiles with -mcpu=pentiumpro? 09:43 < rxr> I don't think so 09:43 < rxr> the archivista target is normally built with that 09:43 < Shingo--> gcc compile with -mcpu=pentiumpro? somes packages like fttw and fttw3 too. 09:44 < Shingo--> but I don't had choose anything about that, and running an AthlonXP. 09:45 < Shingo--> thoses packages are problems here. 09:45 < rxr> Shingo--: I can not follow 09:46 < minto_> Just started 2.1 desktop targets (32 and 64 bits) on noisy 09:47 < minto_> I gotta go now, cu all later 09:48 < Shingo--> the package fftw, use -mcpu=pentiumpro for compile in my system, but my system are AthlonXP. and fftw cause problem for others packages. 09:50 < Shingo--> configure script from fftw set that, I think, But what I would like to known if you think that option in gcc compile maybe cause any error with "ld -lfftw" for example, ld cann't find the lib. 09:51 < Shingo--> when any compiler process try to use ld -lfftw can't find fftw, but the lib was installed. 09:52 < rxr> when you see pentumpro in the log, it does not mean it was used 09:52 < rxr> that the Makefile has this hardcoding makes it appear in the log 09:52 < rxr> but the t2 sandbox just rips it out and injects the optimization you slected 09:53 < rxr> your library not found must have another reason 09:53 < rxr> do you use the experimental --as-needed? 09:53 < rxr> the pentiumpro optimzation would work on your box anyway 10:06 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@84.46.226.121] has quit ["leaving"] 10:27 < valentin> moin 10:27 < rxr> moin 10:29 < valentin> rxr: do you want to come over today ? 10:30 < rxr> how long is falk there? 10:31 < rxr> btw. greetings 10:31 < Shingo--> rxr: I don't that option. 10:31 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:38 < valentin> rxr: he will stay until afternoon 10:38 < valentin> we will do some lunch later 10:41 < rxr> then we come over lunch as well ? 10:47 < valentin> yes, if you want to... 10:47 < valentin> youre wellcome 10:47 < rxr> should be bring some ingredients with us ? 10:48 < rxr> /be/we/ 10:52 < rxr> and when should we come then? 10:53 < valentin> rxr: maybe you come over at 13:00 or so. 10:53 < rxr> ok 10:53 < valentin> i think we will go and buy some food before 10:55 < valentin> do you have some preferences for the meal ? 10:56 < rxr> nope 11:04 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh_nar@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 11:07 [Users #t2] 11:07 [ [Kosh] ] [ CIA-9] [ karasz] [ nzg] [ sepp_ ] [ Shingo--] 11:07 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr] [ SerWou] [ valentin] 11:07 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 11:11 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11322 /trunk/package/games/torcs/lz.patch: * added -lz 11:25 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@84.46.226.121] has joined #t2 12:12 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 12:12 < minto_> hi all 12:13 < Baldzius> hi 12:23 < rxr> valentin: we go out in some secs ... 12:28 < rxr> cu 12:33 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEE6E0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 12:33 < morfoh> moin 12:34 < minto_> hi morfoh :) 12:34 < morfoh> hi minto_ :) 12:35 < Baldzius> moin :) 12:51 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :) 12:52 < morfoh> we should rename this channel to "#:)" 12:52 < minto_> :D 12:52 < morfoh> so minto_ ... how you doing ? 12:52 < morfoh> minto_: I guess you're quite busy the last time 12:54 < minto_> Indeed, getting up at 5:30 leaving the house at 6:00 getting back at 19:00 playing a bit with merlyn before he goes to bed. Relax a bit and got to bed around 21:30/22:00. 12:54 < minto_> Hardly any time left for T2 :( 12:54 < morfoh> minto_: I can imagine 12:54 < minto_> But besides all this I am fine 12:54 < morfoh> :) 12:54 < morfoh> good to hear 12:54 < minto_> How about you? 12:55 < morfoh> same with me ... the relocation caused some "side effects", but mostly I'm quite fine too 12:55 < minto_> side effects? 12:56 < morfoh> lot of work of course 12:56 < minto_> ahh, you mean in da house. 12:56 < morfoh> and as I told you I moved back into the city 12:56 < morfoh> so I've more possibilities regarding cultural events and so on 12:57 < minto_> Ohh, I did not know you previously lived outside the city. 12:57 < morfoh> minto_: I didn't lived outside of the city but at the "border" 12:57 < morfoh> minto_: and Berlin is quite big 12:57 < minto_> So less working on T2? Better move back out again :D 12:58 < morfoh> minto_: so you on has to drive a lot to take part on cultural events 12:58 < minto_> Living close to the center now? 12:58 < morfoh> minto_: no no! besides that there are some interesting project on the horizon 12:59 < minto_> tell me more 12:59 < morfoh> minto_: I'm living directly in the "heart" of berlin now 12:59 < minto_> I will visit you someday :) 13:00 < valentin> minto_: then visit us, too :) 13:00 < valentin> cu later 13:00 < morfoh> minto_: 10min. on foot to the "Brandenburger Tor" 13:00 < minto_> valentin: Bet you I will, I wanna see your little tike. :) 13:00 < valentin> morfoh: where do you live ? 13:00 < morfoh> hi valentin 13:01 < morfoh> valentin: friedrichstr 13:01 < valentin> ah 13:01 < morfoh> 3min away from the railway station 13:01 < valentin> quite close to where i lived once. 13:01 < valentin> but cu later now 13:01 < minto_> cu valentin 13:01 < morfoh> valentin: I'm living directly oposite of the fridrichstadtpalast 13:01 < morfoh> cu valentin 13:02 < minto_> morfoh: What you're living in a palace? 13:02 < minto_> palast = palace 13:02 < morfoh> minto_: the "Firedrichstadtpalast" is a theatre 13:03 < minto_> Ahhh, so you are very, very, very close to cultural things. 13:03 < minto_> Tell me more about the projects you mentioned. 13:03 < morfoh> minto_: yep ... it's the "tourists heart" of former east berlin 13:04 < minto_> So you are an osie? 13:04 < morfoh> minto_: yes ... I'm an "ossie" 13:04 < morfoh> :) 15:36 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:53 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has quit ["Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/"] 16:03 -!- rxr_ [i=rene@e178143171.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 16:03 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/ 16:03 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005] 16:03 [Users #t2] 16:03 [ [Kosh] ] [ CIA-9 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ SerWou ] 16:03 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 16:03 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ nzg ] [ sepp_] 16:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 16:03 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 16:03 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 16:19 -!- rxr [i=rene@e178152168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:42 -!- Shingo-- [n=Shingo--@201.36.98.165] has joined #t2 17:29 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:29 < minto_> hi all 17:52 < rxr_> hi minto_ 17:52 < minto_> hi rxr 18:54 < valentin> re 19:08 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@84.46.226.121] has quit ["leaving"] 19:18 < mnemoc> moin 19:18 -!- [Kosh] [n=kosh_nar@201.36.98.165] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:22 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:28 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:29 < karasz> moin mnemoc 19:29 < karasz> hi * 19:30 < mnemoc> morfoh: karasz 19:35 < karasz> kinda slow today... 19:35 < mnemoc> big^big headache 19:36 < rxr_> re 19:36 < karasz> maybe to much working? 19:36 < rxr_> moin mnemoc 19:36 < rxr_> mnemoc: oh - hangover? 19:36 -!- You're now known as rxr 19:36 < mnemoc> moin rxr 19:36 < karasz> hi rxr 19:37 < mnemoc> rxr: similar but without the previous pleasant part 19:39 < karasz> does anybody know anything about Veki? is he on vacation? 19:39 < mnemoc> no idea 19:40 < CIA-9> rene * r11323 /trunk/scripts/functions: * prevent error output when hostname is not available 19:40 < karasz> i have some bash scripts that are usefull for postgres 19:40 < karasz> what should i do with them? 19:42 < karasz> mnemoc: ? 19:42 < mnemoc> you can add them to your target 19:43 < mnemoc> T2 preserve pristine packages 19:43 < karasz> my target? 19:43 < karasz> i do not have a target.. 19:43 < karasz> i want to contribute them 19:44 < karasz> maybe as an new postgresql-utils package? 19:45 < mnemoc> sure, package them, announce on freshmeat, and send a patch to add your package to T2 19:46 < mnemoc> you may want to open an account on sourceforge or berlios or .... who is postgres' forge named? 19:46 < mnemoc> to share the tarball 19:47 < mnemoc> pgfoundry.org 19:57 < karasz> registered on pgfoundry 19:57 < karasz> waiting 72 hours and then i will send the patch to ML 19:57 < mnemoc> :D 19:57 < mnemoc> name? 19:57 < karasz> what did i did wrong? 19:58 < karasz> psqlbva 19:58 < karasz> what did i did wrong? 19:58 < mnemoc> why wrong? 19:59 < karasz> you :D 19:59 < mnemoc> o_O 19:59 < karasz> it was not funny so i guessed that i did something wrong :) 20:01 < karasz> guys i will leave now waiting my 72 hours 20:01 < karasz> cu all on monday 20:01 < mnemoc> cu 20:01 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has left #t2 ["Konversation terminated!"] 20:13 < rxr> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 20:14 < rxr> susped to ram seems top work out of the box on this msi megabook s270 20:14 < rxr> unbelievable 20:14 < _Ragnar_> :D 20:14 < rxr> just no graphic when suspended from the console 20:14 < sepp_> congratulations :) 20:14 < rxr> but from within X I get usable graphic again 20:15 < rxr> sepp_: I have done nothing ... 20:15 < rxr> just echo mem > /sys/power/state ... 20:15 < rxr> and watched it happen 20:16 < sepp_> hmm on my notebook the kernel maps the wakeup code into low mem, s3 shutdown and then - it does not execute a single line of the wakeup code 20:16 < sepp_> just hard reset 20:17 < sepp_> lucky rxr 20:17 < rxr> yep 20:17 < rxr> especially with that more cheap then branded box ... 20:18 < rxr> this only leaves "where is the docu for the cisco w-lan chip" to get a driver for it ... 20:18 < rxr> ipn2220 or so .. 20:18 < _Ragnar_> at least it's not broadcom;p 20:18 * mnemoc feels like sh* 20:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping ping ping 20:20 * _Ragnar_ hugs mnemoc 20:20 < _Ragnar_> what's wrong? 20:21 < mnemoc> just ill ;) 20:21 < _Ragnar_> aww ok get better soon 20:21 < rxr> sepp_: when windows works it most likely needs some magic "really thaw me bit" somewhere to execute that code 20:21 < mnemoc> but i have to wait for morpho to migrate www3 before going home 20:21 < rxr> maybe a digital signature *g* ... 20:22 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm 20:22 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping 20:24 < sepp_> rxr: any idea how to find that? i put a infinite loop at the start of the wakeup code to see see where it resets but nothing 20:28 < CIA-9> amery * r11324 /trunk/package/textproc/fribidi/fribidi.desc: 20:28 < CIA-9> * updated fribidi (0.10.4 -> 0.10.5) 20:28 < CIA-9> * changed fribidi to it's new home, http://fribidi.org 20:29 < rxr> sepp_: no - I was away from x86 ACPI code for years ... 20:30 < rxr> in the beginning I looked into quite many things - I even have the full smart battery spec as hardcopy ..., but just working suspend on Apple stuff made me way to comfortable to continue looking into that ... 20:31 < rxr> but, well, maybe I will look into more such stuff again, now with a x86(_64) on laptop on my table ... 20:31 < sepp_> ok 20:33 < CIA-9> rene * r11325 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (initrdinit mkinitrd): 20:33 < CIA-9> * migrated initrd early userspace to not use pivot_root, this uncovers 20:33 < CIA-9> inf. loop bugs in the linux kernel that expects rootfs to be the top 20:33 < CIA-9> of the namespace (or so) 20:34 < _Ragnar_> ooops O_O 20:35 < CIA-9> amery * r11326 /trunk/package/gnome2/enchant/enchant.desc: * updated enchant (1.1.5 -> 1.1.6) 20:41 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.243.46] has joined #t2 20:51 < CIA-9> rene * r11327 /trunk/package/base/embutils/x-switch_root.patch: 20:51 < CIA-9> * added a switch_root to embutils, that is now used on the initrd 20:51 < CIA-9> instead of pivot_root to prevent inf. loop in several kernel 20:51 < CIA-9> functions (yes, this is ugly, but what should I do ...) 20:56 < rxr> my laptops windows restore CDs are a joke 20:56 < rxr> they huse symatics ghost to replay (restore) the snapshot they made ... 20:56 < rxr> eithout questioning .. 20:56 < rxr> which means - bye bye to my fresh 64bit T2 build ... 20:58 [Users #t2] 20:58 [ _Ragnar_] [ minto_] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin] 20:58 [ CIA-9 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ Shingo-- ] 20:58 [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ sepp_] [ sparc-kly] 20:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 20:58 < mnemoc> tipical, even inside companies. they support what they know, and they only know their windows image 21:20 -!- Baldzius [n=baldzius@84.46.226.121] has joined #t2 21:24 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about optional target self registration based on some kind of tag on $target/REAME, version.txt or $target.txt? 21:26 < mnemoc> rxr: i would also want to rename /etc/ROCK-VERSION into SDE-VERSION, and copy $target/version.txt into /etc/VERSION 21:27 < mnemoc> rxr: and /etc/ROCK-CONFIG to... no idea :\ 21:27 < Baldzius> :) 21:32 < mnemoc> i want to empower targets as 'independent products' 21:36 < Baldzius> mnemoc: can you help me? 21:37 < Baldzius> i just need to be sure, what those numbers like 800.00 in packages file means? 21:37 < mnemoc> Baldzius: priority 21:37 < mnemoc> Baldzius: the build process is sorted by that number 21:37 < Baldzius> it seems like sme kind of dependecies or compile order 21:37 < mnemoc> compile order 21:38 < mnemoc> generated considering dependencies :) 21:38 < mnemoc> look at your config/$config/packages, it's sorted using that criteria 21:38 < Baldzius> those numbers are generated automatically? 21:38 < mnemoc> once they were 21:39 < mnemoc> now we adjust them by hand 21:39 < Baldzius> i see thank you 21:39 < Baldzius> i just wanted to be sure :) 21:39 < mnemoc> :) 21:39 < mnemoc> don't doubt to ask 21:40 < Baldzius> just as i thought :) 21:40 < Baldzius> ok 21:40 < Baldzius> :) 21:41 < mnemoc> :) 21:41 < Baldzius> mnemoc: am i dreaming or 2.1 rc1 minimal iso is missing cdrtools? :) 21:42 < Baldzius> seems rc2 has them 21:43 < Baldzius> i said just in case, as i had to install them 21:43 < mnemoc> Baldzius: yes, rc1 didn't had subversion and cdrtools 21:44 < mnemoc> now generic/minimal is a complete OS to start playing with T2 as user or developer 21:44 < Baldzius> hehe it was quite shocking when i typed Create-ISO and got error :) 21:44 < mnemoc> :) 21:45 < mnemoc> i hope rc2 experience is a bit less shocking 21:45 < Baldzius> can't try, have only 64Kb/s link :( 21:46 < mnemoc> you can grab it from bittorrent also 21:47 < mnemoc> i share a 64kbps link at home 21:49 < Baldzius> i hope next month i'll have DSL with 256 down link 21:49 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - SDE-CONFIG 21:50 < mnemoc> rxr: what about target self-registration... first line of a version.txt file? $target.txt? REAME? 21:50 < mnemoc> rxr: a tag? 21:51 < rxr> what to you mean with self-registration? 21:51 < mnemoc> instead of a dumb var_append on preconfig.in 21:51 < rxr> ah even 21:51 < rxr> well 21:51 < rxr> is that soo much of a help ? 21:52 < rxr> this msi laptop windows recover is a big joke of ugly cruft ... 21:52 < rxr> I wonder why the windows poeple endure that much crap ... 21:52 < mnemoc> not so much, but i guess easier for newbies 21:52 < rxr> well / maybe leave it this way for now - it is so far the generic way to handle this 21:53 < rxr> like architectures, ... 21:53 < rxr> damn 21:53 < rxr> what do I need to resize ntfs ? 21:53 < mnemoc> ehm 21:53 < rxr> or was latest gnu parted able to do so ... 21:53 < mnemoc> no clue 21:54 < Baldzius> i wouldn't do that 21:54 < mnemoc> rxr: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html 21:54 < mnemoc> Baldzius: rxr has lot of courage 21:55 < rxr> and I do not really want /need windows ... 21:55 < mnemoc> fdisk solves that 21:56 < Baldzius> i got MBR corrupted when tried to work with NTFS 21:56 < Baldzius> from then i am really afraid of doing smtg with NTFS from linux 21:57 < Baldzius> as i am also afraid of using windows even 21:57 < Baldzius> i prefer to not use M$ crap at all 21:57 < rxr> I'm /windows free/ since '96 or so 21:57 < CIA-9> amery * r11328 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfsprogs/ntfsprogs.desc: * updated ntfsprogs (1.9.4 -> 1.11.2) - not tested 21:58 < rxr> I only put it onto some dusty box every know and then to reverse engenier a driver ... 21:58 < mnemoc> i'm windows free since 2002 only... when i got fired from a MS-only company :) 21:59 < Baldzius> hehe i am since 2004, when i got internet at home 21:59 < mnemoc> :p 22:00 < Baldzius> my sister pissed me with viruses 22:00 < Baldzius> each month i had to reinstall them :) 22:00 < Baldzius> and i said: that's enough now we 'll have linux :) 22:01 < mnemoc> my daughters don't know what windows is :p 22:01 < Baldzius> since that i never had to reinstall anything 22:02 < Baldzius> :) 22:02 < Baldzius> windows are evil :) 22:02 < rxr> now I have xp on the thing again 22:02 < mnemoc> using windows is indeed a bad practice 22:02 < rxr> the first ting the msi live update 3 wanted to do was, update itself ... 22:03 < Baldzius> :) 22:04 < mnemoc> morfoh: ! 22:07 < rxr> power2go cd/dvd burning thing crashes when removed from the tray .. 22:09 < rxr> where was partitioning in windows ? 22:11 < mnemoc> compuper managment -> store devices .... or something like that 22:12 < Baldzius> right mouse button on my computer 22:12 < Baldzius> i guess :) 22:12 < CIA-9> amery * r11329 /trunk/scripts/ (10 files): * renamed scripts/functions to functions.in to follow our naming convention 22:12 < mnemoc> rxr: config-func -> config-functions.in ? 22:14 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:15 < mnemoc> X -----5---- 150.000 gnome2 gnome-doc-utils 0.1.3 / extra/desktop/gnome 0 22:15 < mnemoc> ^---- and evince asking for (gnome-doc-utils >= 0.3.2) 22:17 < rxr> .oO 22:17 * rxr bed - cu soon 22:17 < mnemoc> this early? 22:17 < Baldzius> :) 22:18 < mnemoc> [FILE] gnome-doc-utils-0.2.2.tar.gz . . Aug 26 16:54 413k 22:18 < mnemoc> [FILE] gnome-doc-utils-0.3.2.tar.gz . . Jul 27 06:51 475k 22:19 < Baldzius> :))) 22:19 < Baldzius> regress 22:19 * mnemoc puzzled 22:20 < mnemoc> 0.3.2 anyway.... to build evince 22:20 < Baldzius> new numbering scheme :) 22:21 < mnemoc> NEWS 1.7 4 weeks shaunm * NEWS: - Version 0.3.2 22:21 < mnemoc> ^--- from their cvs 22:23 < Baldzius> mnemoc: do ya have clean 2.1 rc2 base installed? 22:23 < mnemoc> installed, no 22:24 < mnemoc> Baldzius: why? 22:25 < Baldzius> hm i just want to make sure, i have a feeling e2fsprogs installs pkgconfig files in /lib/pkgconfig/ while it sould be /usr/lib/pkgconfig 22:25 < Baldzius> or i miss here smtg 22:25 < Baldzius> rxr tells me it can't be 22:25 < CIA-9> amery * r11330 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.1.3 -> 0.3.2) - to make evince happy 22:26 < Baldzius> i builded two targets 22:26 < mnemoc> # grep pkgconfig build/ref-2.1.0-rc3-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/e2fsprogs 22:26 < mnemoc> e2fsprogs: lib/pkgconfig 22:26 < mnemoc> bug 22:26 < Baldzius> i filled it no trac 22:26 < Baldzius> i filled it on trac 22:27 < mnemoc> now send the fix 22:27 < Baldzius> yesteday or later can't remember 22:27 < Baldzius> who, me? :) 22:28 < mnemoc> who else? 22:29 < Baldzius> hehehe :))))) 22:29 < Baldzius> well i've sent 2 patches already, but nobody applies them 22:30 < Baldzius> if i have time i could take a look at that 22:30 < mnemoc> give me the subjects 22:30 < Baldzius> now i am trying to get GUI runing on rc1 minimal :) 22:30 < Baldzius> subjects of patches? 22:31 < mnemoc> yes 22:31 < mnemoc> of the mails 22:31 < Baldzius> well can't tell you 22:31 < mnemoc> to find them 22:31 < mnemoc> or your name :) 22:31 < Baldzius> one mail i sent to you 22:31 < mnemoc> ML 22:32 < Baldzius> with iptraf 22:32 < Baldzius> other to t2-update 22:32 < mnemoc> don't send mails to t2-update, that is a daemon 22:32 < Baldzius> yeah now i know :) 22:32 < mnemoc> everything to t2@exactcode.de 22:33 < Baldzius> when i get GUI i will register to ML 22:33 < mnemoc> mutt is your friend 22:33 < mnemoc> and links 22:34 < Baldzius> it would be perfect 22:34 < Baldzius> if minimal had lynx 22:34 < mnemoc> emerge it 22:34 < mnemoc> links, lynx sucks 22:34 < mnemoc> anyway the list is open, no registration is needed to send 22:35 < Baldzius> i know 22:35 < Baldzius> rxr told me 22:35 < CIA-9> amery * r11331 /trunk/scripts/ (Config config-functions.in config.func): * renamed scripts/config.func to config-functions.in to be closer to use naming convention 22:36 < mnemoc> jsaw: now i like the idea of standarizing [D] patch's names :\ 22:37 < Baldzius> :) 22:48 < CIA-9> amery * r11332 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.4.0 -> 0.4.1) 23:22 < CIA-9> amery * r11333 /trunk/package/gnome2/evince/evince.desc: * updated evince (0.3.4 -> 0.4.0) 23:54 < CIA-9> amery * r11334 /trunk/package/textproc/libxml/libxml.desc: * updated libxml (2.6.19 -> 2.6.20) --- Log closed Sun Aug 28 00:00:00 2005