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T2 IRC Log: 2005-08-27

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--- Log opened Sat Aug 27 00:00:00 2005
00:34 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11318 /trunk/package/graphic/xchm/xchm.desc: * updated xchm (1.0 -> 1.1)
00:36 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11319 /trunk/package/games/torcs/torcs.desc: * updated torcs (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4)
00:43 < sepp> good night all
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01:44 < CIA-9> ragnar * r11320 /trunk/package/network/mtr/mtr.conf: * fix broken mtr configure that uses res_mkquery without including resolv.h
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07:02 < rxr> re
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07:57 < Baldzius> good morning :)
08:02 < Shingo--> moin
08:08 < Baldzius> moin Shingo--
08:34 < CIA-9> rene * r11321 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/install.sh:
08:34 < CIA-9> * more usability, progress bars and sanity checks for the
08:34 < CIA-9> archivista/install.sh
08:42 < rxr> hm
08:42 < rxr> fedora core crap does not like my usb keyboard I use for dROCK ROCK and T2 installs since ages
08:42 < rxr> what pseudo user friendly f*ck is that ...
08:43 < Baldzius> dunno , never 've used fedora :)
08:46 < rxr> usb mice the same
08:48 < rxr> minimal fedora instal: 979MB !!!!
08:48 < rxr> what the heck ....
08:48 < rxr> 97MB ....
08:48 < rxr> my oh my ...
08:48 < rxr> for tiny router and firewalls ...
08:48 < rxr> 979MB ...
08:48 < _Ragnar_> *rofl*
08:48 < rxr> and I need CD 1 2 and 3
08:49 < rxr> some sane sorted system would help to only instal a minimal from one CD ...
08:50 < _Ragnar_> do we have that? :)
08:50 < rxr> did i mention my USB input peripherals do not even work ...
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08:50 < rxr> _Ragnar_: a minimal on one CD? yes
08:50 < _Ragnar_> I mean, all important packages on the 1st cd
08:50 < rxr> no - but at least it is on my TODO ,-)
08:51 < _Ragnar_> ;)
09:16 < _Ragnar_> er druckt nicht!
09:16 < _Ragnar_> oops;)
09:17 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
09:17 < minto_> morning all
09:18 < rxr> moin
09:19 < minto_> hi rxr, how are things going?
09:23 < rxr> the fedora router / firewall minimal installed the -de langpack for openoffice.org
09:23 < rxr> minto_: so lala ...
09:25 < _Ragnar_> did it install oo, too?
09:26 < minto_> Nice, so you can write documents on your router/firewall :D
09:27 < minto_> rxr: Noisy is up and running, so if you wanna play around with it, be my guest :)
09:27 < rxr> minto_: thanks
09:27 < rxr> when I have more time ...
09:28 < rxr> minto_: I have a x86-64 sub-notebook now ...
09:28 < rxr> msi s270
09:28 < rxr> AMD Turion inside
09:30 < minto_> :) Nice, so x86-64 will be fully supported soon :)
09:30 < rxr> hehe
09:30 < _Ragnar_> there's still a way to go for that O_O
09:30 < rxr> think so
09:31 < rxr> yes - e.g. apr-util and thus subversion failed here due to openldap not being linked correctly against sasl2 ...
09:31 < rxr> does anyone else see that ?
09:31 < _Ragnar_> when did you try that?
09:32 < rxr> i built trunk / desktop for x86-64 ...
09:32 < rxr> yesterday ...
09:33 < rxr> _Ragnar_: no - it did not instal the full OOo AFAICS - and also no X
09:33 < rxr> but the de OOo langpack ..
09:33 < _Ragnar_> subversion works for my build
09:34 < _Ragnar_> that's why I wonder, I thought I fixed that
09:37 < rxr> the problem is that libtool or so bails during openldap build that -lsasl2 is not found and thus the LDAP library has no sasl reference which yields to unresolved symbols when other stuff (apr-util) tries to link against -lldap
09:38 < rxr> _Ragnar_: do you run X on x86-64?
09:38 < _Ragnar_> yeas
09:39 < rxr> oki
09:39 * rxr soon too
09:41 < Shingo--> rxr: there's any problem if gcc compiles with -mcpu=pentiumpro?
09:43 < rxr> I don't think so
09:43 < rxr> the archivista target is normally built with that
09:43 < Shingo--> gcc compile with -mcpu=pentiumpro? somes packages like fttw and fttw3 too.
09:44 < Shingo--> but I don't had choose anything about that, and running an AthlonXP.
09:45 < Shingo--> thoses packages are problems here.
09:45 < rxr> Shingo--: I can not follow
09:46 < minto_> Just started 2.1 desktop targets (32 and 64 bits) on noisy
09:47 < minto_> I gotta go now, cu all later
09:48 < Shingo--> the package fftw, use -mcpu=pentiumpro for compile in my system, but my system are AthlonXP. and fftw cause problem for others packages.
09:50 < Shingo--> configure script from fftw set that, I think, But what I would like to known if you think that option in gcc compile maybe cause any error with "ld -lfftw" for example, ld cann't find the lib.
09:51 < Shingo--> when any compiler process try to use ld -lfftw can't find fftw, but the lib was installed.
09:52 < rxr> when you see pentumpro in the log, it does not mean it was used
09:52 < rxr> that the Makefile has this hardcoding makes it appear in the log
09:52 < rxr> but the t2 sandbox just rips it out and injects the optimization you slected
09:53 < rxr> your library not found must have another reason
09:53 < rxr> do you use the experimental --as-needed?
09:53 < rxr> the pentiumpro optimzation would work on your box anyway
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10:27 < valentin> moin
10:27 < rxr> moin
10:29 < valentin> rxr: do you want to come over today ?
10:30 < rxr> how long is falk there?
10:31 < rxr> btw. greetings
10:31 < Shingo--> rxr: I don't that option.
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10:38 < valentin> rxr: he will stay until afternoon
10:38 < valentin> we will do some lunch later
10:41 < rxr> then we come over lunch as well ?
10:47 < valentin> yes, if you want to...
10:47 < valentin> youre wellcome
10:47 < rxr> should be bring some ingredients with us ?
10:48 < rxr> /be/we/
10:52 < rxr> and when should we come then?
10:53 < valentin> rxr: maybe you come over at 13:00 or so.
10:53 < rxr> ok
10:53 < valentin> i think we will go and buy some food before
10:55 < valentin> do you have some preferences for the meal ?
10:56 < rxr> nope
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11:07 [ [Kosh] ] [ CIA-9] [ karasz] [ nzg] [ sepp_ ] [ Shingo--]
11:07 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr] [ SerWou] [ valentin]
11:07 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
11:11 < CIA-9> sebastian * r11322 /trunk/package/games/torcs/lz.patch: * added -lz
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12:12 < minto_> hi all
12:13 < Baldzius> hi
12:23 < rxr> valentin: we go out in some secs ...
12:28 < rxr> cu
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12:33 < morfoh> moin
12:34 < minto_> hi morfoh :)
12:34 < morfoh> hi minto_ :)
12:35 < Baldzius> moin :)
12:51 < morfoh> hi Baldzius :)
12:52 < morfoh> we should rename this channel to "#:)"
12:52 < minto_> :D
12:52 < morfoh> so minto_ ... how you doing ?
12:52 < morfoh> minto_: I guess you're quite busy the last time
12:54 < minto_> Indeed, getting up at 5:30 leaving the house at 6:00 getting back at 19:00 playing a bit with merlyn before he goes to bed. Relax a bit and got to bed around 21:30/22:00.
12:54 < minto_> Hardly any time left for T2 :(
12:54 < morfoh> minto_: I can imagine
12:54 < minto_> But besides all this I am fine
12:54 < morfoh> :)
12:54 < morfoh> good to hear
12:54 < minto_> How about you?
12:55 < morfoh> same with me ... the relocation caused some "side effects", but mostly I'm quite fine too
12:55 < minto_> side effects?
12:56 < morfoh> lot of work of course
12:56 < minto_> ahh, you mean in da house.
12:56 < morfoh> and as I told you I moved back into the city
12:56 < morfoh> so I've more possibilities regarding cultural events and so on
12:57 < minto_> Ohh, I did not know you previously lived outside the city.
12:57 < morfoh> minto_: I didn't lived outside of the city but at the "border"
12:57 < morfoh> minto_: and Berlin is quite big
12:57 < minto_> So less working on T2? Better move back out again :D
12:58 < morfoh> minto_: so you on has to drive a lot to take part on cultural events
12:58 < minto_> Living close to the center now?
12:58 < morfoh> minto_: no no! besides that there are some interesting project on the horizon
12:59 < minto_> tell me more
12:59 < morfoh> minto_: I'm living directly in the "heart" of berlin now
12:59 < minto_> I will visit you someday :)
13:00 < valentin> minto_: then visit us, too :)
13:00 < valentin> cu later
13:00 < morfoh> minto_: 10min. on foot to the "Brandenburger Tor"
13:00 < minto_> valentin: Bet you I will, I wanna see your little tike. :)
13:00 < valentin> morfoh: where do you live ?
13:00 < morfoh> hi valentin
13:01 < morfoh> valentin: friedrichstr
13:01 < valentin> ah
13:01 < morfoh> 3min away from the railway station
13:01 < valentin> quite close to where i lived once.
13:01 < valentin> but cu later now
13:01 < minto_> cu valentin
13:01 < morfoh> valentin: I'm living directly oposite of the fridrichstadtpalast
13:01 < morfoh> cu valentin
13:02 < minto_> morfoh: What you're living in a palace?
13:02 < minto_> palast = palace
13:02 < morfoh> minto_: the "Firedrichstadtpalast" is a theatre
13:03 < minto_> Ahhh, so you are very, very, very close to cultural things.
13:03 < minto_> Tell me more about the projects you mentioned.
13:03 < morfoh> minto_: yep ... it's the "tourists heart" of former east berlin
13:04 < minto_> So you are an osie?
13:04 < morfoh> minto_: yes ... I'm an "ossie"
13:04 < morfoh> :)
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16:03 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-rc2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | BT http://torrent.t2-project.org/
16:03 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
16:03 [Users #t2]
16:03 [ [Kosh] ] [ CIA-9 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ SerWou ]
16:03 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
16:03 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ nzg ] [ sepp_]
16:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
16:03 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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17:29 < minto_> hi all
17:52 < rxr_> hi minto_
17:52 < minto_> hi rxr
18:54 < valentin> re
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19:18 < mnemoc> moin
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19:29 < karasz> moin mnemoc
19:29 < karasz> hi *
19:30 < mnemoc> morfoh: karasz
19:35 < karasz> kinda slow today...
19:35 < mnemoc> big^big headache
19:36 < rxr_> re
19:36 < karasz> maybe to much working?
19:36 < rxr_> moin mnemoc
19:36 < rxr_> mnemoc: oh - hangover?
19:36 -!- You're now known as rxr
19:36 < mnemoc> moin rxr
19:36 < karasz> hi rxr
19:37 < mnemoc> rxr: similar but without the previous pleasant part
19:39 < karasz> does anybody know anything about Veki? is he on vacation?
19:39 < mnemoc> no idea
19:40 < CIA-9> rene * r11323 /trunk/scripts/functions: * prevent error output when hostname is not available
19:40 < karasz> i have some bash scripts that are usefull for postgres
19:40 < karasz> what should i do with them?
19:42 < karasz> mnemoc: ?
19:42 < mnemoc> you can add them to your target
19:43 < mnemoc> T2 preserve pristine packages
19:43 < karasz> my target?
19:43 < karasz> i do not have a target..
19:43 < karasz> i want to contribute them
19:44 < karasz> maybe as an new postgresql-utils package?
19:45 < mnemoc> sure, package them, announce on freshmeat, and send a patch to add your package to T2
19:46 < mnemoc> you may want to open an account on sourceforge or berlios or .... who is postgres' forge named?
19:46 < mnemoc> to share the tarball
19:47 < mnemoc> pgfoundry.org
19:57 < karasz> registered on pgfoundry
19:57 < karasz> waiting 72 hours and then i will send the patch to ML
19:57 < mnemoc> :D
19:57 < mnemoc> name?
19:57 < karasz> what did i did wrong?
19:58 < karasz> psqlbva
19:58 < karasz> what did i did wrong?
19:58 < mnemoc> why wrong?
19:59 < karasz> you :D
19:59 < mnemoc> o_O
19:59 < karasz> it was not funny so i guessed that i did something wrong :)
20:01 < karasz> guys i will leave now waiting my 72 hours
20:01 < karasz> cu all on monday
20:01 < mnemoc> cu
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20:13 < rxr> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
20:14 < rxr> susped to ram seems top work out of the box on this msi megabook s270
20:14 < rxr> unbelievable
20:14 < _Ragnar_> :D
20:14 < rxr> just no graphic when suspended from the console
20:14 < sepp_> congratulations :)
20:14 < rxr> but from within X I get usable graphic again
20:15 < rxr> sepp_: I have done nothing ...
20:15 < rxr> just echo mem > /sys/power/state ...
20:15 < rxr> and watched it happen
20:16 < sepp_> hmm on my notebook the kernel maps the wakeup code into low mem, s3 shutdown and then - it does not execute a single line of the wakeup code
20:16 < sepp_> just hard reset
20:17 < sepp_> lucky rxr
20:17 < rxr> yep
20:17 < rxr> especially with that more cheap then branded box ...
20:18 < rxr> this only leaves "where is the docu for the cisco w-lan chip" to get a driver for it ...
20:18 < rxr> ipn2220 or so ..
20:18 < _Ragnar_> at least it's not broadcom;p
20:18 * mnemoc feels like sh*
20:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping ping ping
20:20 * _Ragnar_ hugs mnemoc
20:20 < _Ragnar_> what's wrong?
20:21 < mnemoc> just ill ;)
20:21 < _Ragnar_> aww ok get better soon
20:21 < rxr> sepp_: when windows works it most likely needs some magic "really thaw me bit" somewhere to execute that code
20:21 < mnemoc> but i have to wait for morpho to migrate www3 before going home
20:21 < rxr> maybe a digital signature *g* ...
20:22 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm
20:22 < mnemoc> morfoh: ping
20:24 < sepp_> rxr: any idea how to find that? i put a infinite loop at the start of the wakeup code to see see where it resets but nothing
20:28 < CIA-9> amery * r11324 /trunk/package/textproc/fribidi/fribidi.desc:
20:28 < CIA-9> * updated fribidi (0.10.4 -> 0.10.5)
20:28 < CIA-9> * changed fribidi to it's new home, http://fribidi.org
20:29 < rxr> sepp_: no - I was away from x86 ACPI code for years ...
20:30 < rxr> in the beginning I looked into quite many things - I even have the full smart battery spec as hardcopy ..., but just working suspend on Apple stuff made me way to comfortable to continue looking into that ...
20:31 < rxr> but, well, maybe I will look into more such stuff again, now with a x86(_64) on laptop on my table ...
20:31 < sepp_> ok
20:33 < CIA-9> rene * r11325 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (initrdinit mkinitrd):
20:33 < CIA-9> * migrated initrd early userspace to not use pivot_root, this uncovers
20:33 < CIA-9> inf. loop bugs in the linux kernel that expects rootfs to be the top
20:33 < CIA-9> of the namespace (or so)
20:34 < _Ragnar_> ooops O_O
20:35 < CIA-9> amery * r11326 /trunk/package/gnome2/enchant/enchant.desc: * updated enchant (1.1.5 -> 1.1.6)
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20:51 < CIA-9> rene * r11327 /trunk/package/base/embutils/x-switch_root.patch:
20:51 < CIA-9> * added a switch_root to embutils, that is now used on the initrd
20:51 < CIA-9> instead of pivot_root to prevent inf. loop in several kernel
20:51 < CIA-9> functions (yes, this is ugly, but what should I do ...)
20:56 < rxr> my laptops windows restore CDs are a joke
20:56 < rxr> they huse symatics ghost to replay (restore) the snapshot they made ...
20:56 < rxr> eithout questioning ..
20:56 < rxr> which means - bye bye to my fresh 64bit T2 build ...
20:58 [Users #t2]
20:58 [ _Ragnar_] [ minto_] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ] [ valentin]
20:58 [ CIA-9 ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ Shingo-- ]
20:58 [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ sepp_] [ sparc-kly]
20:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
20:58 < mnemoc> tipical, even inside companies. they support what they know, and they only know their windows image
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21:24 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about optional target self registration based on some kind of tag on $target/REAME, version.txt or $target.txt?
21:26 < mnemoc> rxr: i would also want to rename /etc/ROCK-VERSION into SDE-VERSION, and copy $target/version.txt into /etc/VERSION
21:27 < mnemoc> rxr: and /etc/ROCK-CONFIG to... no idea :\
21:27 < Baldzius> :)
21:32 < mnemoc> i want to empower targets as 'independent products'
21:36 < Baldzius> mnemoc: can you help me?
21:37 < Baldzius> i just need to be sure, what those numbers like 800.00 in packages file means?
21:37 < mnemoc> Baldzius: priority
21:37 < mnemoc> Baldzius: the build process is sorted by that number
21:37 < Baldzius> it seems like sme kind of dependecies or compile order
21:37 < mnemoc> compile order
21:38 < mnemoc> generated considering dependencies :)
21:38 < mnemoc> look at your config/$config/packages, it's sorted using that criteria
21:38 < Baldzius> those numbers are generated automatically?
21:38 < mnemoc> once they were
21:39 < mnemoc> now we adjust them by hand
21:39 < Baldzius> i see thank you
21:39 < Baldzius> i just wanted to be sure :)
21:39 < mnemoc> :)
21:39 < mnemoc> don't doubt to ask
21:40 < Baldzius> just as i thought :)
21:40 < Baldzius> ok
21:40 < Baldzius> :)
21:41 < mnemoc> :)
21:41 < Baldzius> mnemoc: am i dreaming or 2.1 rc1 minimal iso is missing cdrtools? :)
21:42 < Baldzius> seems rc2 has them
21:43 < Baldzius> i said just in case, as i had to install them
21:43 < mnemoc> Baldzius: yes, rc1 didn't had subversion and cdrtools
21:44 < mnemoc> now generic/minimal is a complete OS to start playing with T2 as user or developer
21:44 < Baldzius> hehe it was quite shocking when i typed Create-ISO and got error :)
21:44 < mnemoc> :)
21:45 < mnemoc> i hope rc2 experience is a bit less shocking
21:45 < Baldzius> can't try, have only 64Kb/s link :(
21:46 < mnemoc> you can grab it from bittorrent also
21:47 < mnemoc> i share a 64kbps link at home
21:49 < Baldzius> i hope next month i'll have DSL with 256 down link
21:49 < rxr> mnemoc: ack - SDE-CONFIG
21:50 < mnemoc> rxr: what about target self-registration... first line of a version.txt file? $target.txt? REAME?
21:50 < mnemoc> rxr: a tag?
21:51 < rxr> what to you mean with self-registration?
21:51 < mnemoc> instead of a dumb var_append on preconfig.in
21:51 < rxr> 21:51 < rxr> ah even
21:51 < rxr> well
21:51 < rxr> is that soo much of a help ?
21:52 < rxr> this msi laptop windows recover is a big joke of ugly cruft ...
21:52 < rxr> I wonder why the windows poeple endure that much crap ...
21:52 < mnemoc> not so much, but i guess easier for newbies
21:52 < rxr> well / maybe leave it this way for now - it is so far the generic way to handle this
21:53 < rxr> like architectures, ...
21:53 < rxr> damn
21:53 < rxr> what do I need to resize ntfs ?
21:53 < mnemoc> ehm
21:53 < rxr> or was latest gnu parted able to do so ...
21:53 < mnemoc> no clue
21:54 < Baldzius> i wouldn't do that
21:54 < mnemoc> rxr: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
21:54 < mnemoc> Baldzius: rxr has lot of courage
21:55 < rxr> and I do not really want /need windows ...
21:55 < mnemoc> fdisk solves that
21:56 < Baldzius> i got MBR corrupted when tried to work with NTFS
21:56 < Baldzius> from then i am really afraid of doing smtg with NTFS from linux
21:57 < Baldzius> as i am also afraid of using windows even
21:57 < Baldzius> i prefer to not use M$ crap at all
21:57 < rxr> I'm /windows free/ since '96 or so
21:57 < CIA-9> amery * r11328 /trunk/package/filesystem/ntfsprogs/ntfsprogs.desc: * updated ntfsprogs (1.9.4 -> 1.11.2) - not tested
21:58 < rxr> I only put it onto some dusty box every know and then to reverse engenier a driver ...
21:58 < mnemoc> i'm windows free since 2002 only... when i got fired from a MS-only company :)
21:59 < Baldzius> hehe i am since 2004, when i got internet at home
21:59 < mnemoc> :p
22:00 < Baldzius> my sister pissed me with viruses
22:00 < Baldzius> each month i had to reinstall them :)
22:00 < Baldzius> and i said: that's enough now we 'll have linux :)
22:01 < mnemoc> my daughters don't know what windows is :p
22:01 < Baldzius> since that i never had to reinstall anything
22:02 < Baldzius> :)
22:02 < Baldzius> windows are evil :)
22:02 < rxr> now I have xp on the thing again
22:02 < mnemoc> using windows is indeed a bad practice
22:02 < rxr> the first ting the msi live update 3 wanted to do was, update itself ...
22:03 < Baldzius> :)
22:04 < mnemoc> morfoh: !
22:07 < rxr> power2go cd/dvd burning thing crashes when removed from the tray ..
22:09 < rxr> where was partitioning in windows ?
22:11 < mnemoc> compuper managment -> store devices .... or something like that
22:12 < Baldzius> right mouse button on my computer
22:12 < Baldzius> i guess :)
22:12 < CIA-9> amery * r11329 /trunk/scripts/ (10 files): * renamed scripts/functions to functions.in to follow our naming convention
22:12 < mnemoc> rxr: config-func -> config-functions.in ?
22:14 -!- minto_ [n=chatzill@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
22:15 < mnemoc> X -----5---- 150.000 gnome2 gnome-doc-utils 0.1.3 / extra/desktop/gnome 0
22:15 < mnemoc> ^---- and evince asking for (gnome-doc-utils >= 0.3.2)
22:17 < rxr> .oO
22:17 * rxr bed - cu soon
22:17 < mnemoc> this early?
22:17 < Baldzius> :)
22:18 < mnemoc> [FILE] gnome-doc-utils-0.2.2.tar.gz . . Aug 26 16:54 413k
22:18 < mnemoc> [FILE] gnome-doc-utils-0.3.2.tar.gz . . Jul 27 06:51 475k
22:19 < Baldzius> :)))
22:19 < Baldzius> regress
22:19 * mnemoc puzzled
22:20 < mnemoc> 0.3.2 anyway.... to build evince
22:20 < Baldzius> new numbering scheme :)
22:21 < mnemoc> NEWS 1.7 4 weeks shaunm * NEWS: - Version 0.3.2
22:21 < mnemoc> ^--- from their cvs
22:23 < Baldzius> mnemoc: do ya have clean 2.1 rc2 base installed?
22:23 < mnemoc> installed, no
22:24 < mnemoc> Baldzius: why?
22:25 < Baldzius> hm i just want to make sure, i have a feeling e2fsprogs installs pkgconfig files in /lib/pkgconfig/ while it sould be /usr/lib/pkgconfig
22:25 < Baldzius> or i miss here smtg
22:25 < Baldzius> rxr tells me it can't be
22:25 < CIA-9> amery * r11330 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-doc-utils/gnome-doc-utils.desc: * updated gnome-doc-utils (0.1.3 -> 0.3.2) - to make evince happy
22:26 < Baldzius> i builded two targets
22:26 < mnemoc> # grep pkgconfig build/ref-2.1.0-rc3-x86-pentium4-generic/var/adm/flists/e2fsprogs
22:26 < mnemoc> e2fsprogs: lib/pkgconfig
22:26 < mnemoc> bug
22:26 < Baldzius> i filled it no trac
22:26 < Baldzius> i filled it on trac
22:27 < mnemoc> now send the fix
22:27 < Baldzius> yesteday or later can't remember
22:27 < Baldzius> who, me? :)
22:28 < mnemoc> who else?
22:29 < Baldzius> hehehe :)))))
22:29 < Baldzius> well i've sent 2 patches already, but nobody applies them
22:30 < Baldzius> if i have time i could take a look at that
22:30 < mnemoc> give me the subjects
22:30 < Baldzius> now i am trying to get GUI runing on rc1 minimal :)
22:30 < Baldzius> subjects of patches?
22:31 < mnemoc> yes
22:31 < mnemoc> of the mails
22:31 < Baldzius> well can't tell you
22:31 < mnemoc> to find them
22:31 < mnemoc> or your name :)
22:31 < Baldzius> one mail i sent to you
22:31 < mnemoc> ML
22:32 < Baldzius> with iptraf
22:32 < Baldzius> other to t2-update
22:32 < mnemoc> don't send mails to t2-update, that is a daemon
22:32 < Baldzius> yeah now i know :)
22:32 < mnemoc> everything to t2@exactcode.de
22:33 < Baldzius> when i get GUI i will register to ML
22:33 < mnemoc> mutt is your friend
22:33 < mnemoc> and links
22:34 < Baldzius> it would be perfect
22:34 < Baldzius> if minimal had lynx
22:34 < mnemoc> emerge it
22:34 < mnemoc> links, lynx sucks
22:34 < mnemoc> anyway the list is open, no registration is needed to send
22:35 < Baldzius> i know
22:35 < Baldzius> rxr told me
22:35 < CIA-9> amery * r11331 /trunk/scripts/ (Config config-functions.in config.func): * renamed scripts/config.func to config-functions.in to be closer to use naming convention
22:36 < mnemoc> jsaw: now i like the idea of standarizing [D] patch's names :\
22:37 < Baldzius> :)
22:48 < CIA-9> amery * r11332 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: * updated poppler (0.4.0 -> 0.4.1)
23:22 < CIA-9> amery * r11333 /trunk/package/gnome2/evince/evince.desc: * updated evince (0.3.4 -> 0.4.0)
23:54 < CIA-9> amery * r11334 /trunk/package/textproc/libxml/libxml.desc: * updated libxml (2.6.19 -> 2.6.20)
--- Log closed Sun Aug 28 00:00:00 2005