--- Log opened Sun Aug 21 00:00:00 2005
00:16 < CIA-9> amery * r11163 /branches/2.1/package/archiver/cpio/ (cpio.conf no-mt-man.patch):
00:16 < CIA-9> * merged 10925 from trunk: fixed cpio to not install a stray mt manual page
00:16 < CIA-9> * merged 10933 from trunk: fixed cpio.conf to use the correct $bindir instead of moving files
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00:24 < CIA-9> amery * r11164 /branches/2.1/package/archiver/alien/alien.desc: * merged 10352 from trunk: update alien (8.53 -> 8.56)
00:34 < CIA-9> amery * r11165 /branches/2.1/package/audio/qjackctl/qjackctl.desc: * merged 10428 from trunk: update qjackctl (0.2.17 -> 0.2.18)
00:39 < CIA-9> amery * r11166 /branches/2.1/package/audio/hydrogen/ (hydrogen.desc no_update-menus.patch string.patch): * merged 10673 from trunk: updated hydrogen (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
01:08 < CIA-9> amery * r11167 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/mnemosyne.pl: * changed mnemosyne.pl to not populate a list of pkgsel files, instead generate a sh script to output awk code acording to enabled modules (WIP)
01:08 < _Ragnar_> o_O
01:08 < _Ragnar_> that sounds confusing;)
01:09 < menomc> i use to collect a list of files with pkgsel format
01:10 < menomc> and on each loop i calling parse_pkgsel to produce an .awk file and then filter packages file
01:10 < menomc> i want to avoid those calls to parse_pkgsel
01:10 < menomc> generating a file with lot of if, which prints the awk code i want :)
01:11 < menomc> to speed up mnemosyne's Config process
01:11 < _Ragnar_> ah ok :)
01:11 < _Ragnar_> what is mnemosyne anyway?
01:12 < menomc> my target
01:13 < _Ragnar_> :D yes but what does it build?:)
01:14 < menomc> http://www3.conosurseguros.cl/t2/Members/amery/mnemosyne <-- also WIP :)
01:16 < valentin> WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH THIS FUCKING APPLE
01:16 < valentin> fell asleep while downloading
01:18 < menomc> pff
01:20 < valentin> hm gsmp.tfh is down
01:20 < valentin> ok, then maybe this was the reason why this iMac thought it was idling
01:21 < valentin> ok, gn8
01:21 < menomc> gn8 valentin
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02:05 < Shingo--> menomc: the site, www2.conosurseguros.cl/t2 is a personal page?
02:06 < menomc> Shingo--: a prototype for www.t2-project.org
02:07 < menomc> Shingo--: i have been asking rene for www3.t2-project.org pointing to there the whole week :(
02:07 < menomc> Shingo--: why?
02:08 < Shingo--> because you always using this site to show your work in mnemosyne.
02:09 < Shingo--> I like the ideia the your target, but I don't have time yet to test it. :(
02:09 < menomc> did you read about the mnemosyne-based targets i'm writting?
02:10 < Shingo--> a little, where is have more docs/info?
02:10 < menomc> just there
02:10 < menomc> and my svn :p
02:10 < Shingo--> in target/?
02:10 < menomc> only mnemosyne is on t2's svn
02:11 < menomc> sedu, lamassu and other mnemosyne based targets i have used for business are on my personal svn
02:11 < Shingo--> the week part of t2 is always the doc/info.
02:11 < menomc> if i win the lotery i want to buy t2-powered.net to let people house there their targets
02:12 < menomc> Shingo--: we are too few people and lot of things to do :(
02:12 < Shingo--> what kind os business? are have made the distro for your clients?
02:12 < menomc> servers, routers and desktops
02:13 < menomc> business desktops, not toy desktops
02:13 < Shingo--> I known, soon I'll help more the project. and the project will help me. :)
02:13 < menomc> :)
02:13 < menomc> that's the idea behind opensource
02:13 < menomc> all for one and one for all
02:14 < menomc> Shingo--: my t2's plone has pt as language, you will have to help translating there :)
02:15 < Shingo--> I don't experience yet to make new "safe" builds, but soon as possible I'll make target for my needs, maybe based in mnemosyne. it's to early to say.
02:15 < menomc> mnemosyne is a bit 'unstandard' for some people
02:15 < menomc> i want something working good, not working 'standard'
02:16 < Shingo--> because this i like it. :)
02:17 < menomc> :)
02:17 < menomc> i'm going home now, cu :)
02:17 < Shingo--> ok, cu. []s
02:18 < menomc> bye
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02:28 < keinek> hola
02:28 < keinek> hi
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02:36 < Shingo--> hi
02:37 < Shingo--> somebody knowns where package have this file/dir /usr/share/sgml/docbook/stylesheet/xsl/nwalsh?
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04:13 < menomc> re
04:26 < keinek> re
04:26 < keinek> ???
04:27 < keinek> :P
04:42 < Shingo--> menomc: heheh I had write in evolution channell about that. :)
04:42 < Shingo--> an strace gnome-background-properties, show me the program try access /gnome2/share/gnome-background-properties
04:42 < Shingo--> if I create symlink /gnome2/share point to /opt/gnome2/share the program don't crash but still does not working
04:42 < Shingo--> someone have an ideia?
04:43 < menomc> i guess a make var is missing
04:44 < menomc> strace to see what function is trying to open la location
04:44 < menomc> and trace the problem on the source and build log
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04:58 < Shingo--> menomc: can you help me? http://pastebin.com/341996
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05:19 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
05:19 [Users #t2]
05:19 [ _Lewellyn] [ dsoul ] [ menomc] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ]
05:19 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ jsaw ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ Shingo--]
05:19 [ CIA-9 ] [ keinek] [ mtr ] [ rxr_] [ valentin]
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07:43 < rxr_> re
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08:58 < rxr> cool Paula Cole in thy radio - though the paris mp3 stream
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09:22 < _Ragnar_> re
09:28 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_
09:28 < _Ragnar_> hey rene
09:33 < rxr> on trunk linux26 fails due to l7-packet classifier
09:57 < rxr> hm - right now no T2 mirror is functional - damn
09:57 < _Ragnar_> O_O eeps
09:59 < valentin> moin
10:01 < valentin> rxr: gsmp still down
10:01 < valentin> what happened ?
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10:15 < rxr> valentin: no idea - most probably router
10:15 < rxr> I bet for the free bsd box before gsmp
10:15 < rxr> gsmp is not directly conencted to the uni "backbone" - there is a lot of crap on the way
10:15 < rxr> too bad any other mirror is done right now, too
10:18 < valentin> rxr: the box went down during that thunderstorm
10:18 < valentin> i was downloading t2 for ppc
10:18 < valentin> do you have the isos somewhere on your machines ?
10:19 < valentin> only a few hundred megabytes left to dl
10:22 < valentin> Shingo--: are you this steve at itsage guy ?
10:24 < Shingo--> nope, what steve?
10:25 < valentin> there is some subscriber of the t2 mailing list.
10:25 < Shingo--> My name is Rui.
10:25 < valentin> every second mail bounces because of some strange postfix error
10:25 < valentin> i wonder if i shall kick him of list...
10:25 < rxr> valentin: ?
10:26 < valentin> i could try to write him pm
10:28 < rxr> the nexus.tfh-berlin.de box is before gsmp
10:28 < rxr> that one is down already
10:28 < rxr> and maybe more ...
10:30 < valentin> what about the rest of the tfh network ?
10:32 < rxr> no idea - no time to check
10:33 < CIA-9> rene * r11168 /trunk/package/powerpc/gtkpbbuttons/gtkpbbuttons.desc: * updated gtkpbbuttons (0.6.4 -> 0.6.7)
10:35 < CIA-9> rene * r11169 /trunk/package/powerpc/pbbuttonsd/pbbuttonsd.desc: * updated pbbuttonsd (0.6.10 -> 0.7.1)
10:38 < Shingo--> rxr: I had resend the packages, tell me if this time the message is there.
10:39 < rxr> Shingo--: ah - nope - those arrived as well ...
10:39 < rxr> we are just so busy ...
10:39 < rxr> I apply them today
10:40 < Shingo--> ok, I'm not pressing you. just for check.
10:41 < rxr> aren't you subscribed on the lsit?
10:41 < rxr> list even
10:41 < rxr> you would see what arrives then ...
10:41 < rxr> or: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel
10:55 < CIA-9> rene * r11170 /branches/2.1/package/powerpc/pbbuttonsd/pbbuttonsd.desc: * merged r11169 from trunk: updated pbbuttonsd (0.6.10 -> 0.7.1)
10:57 < CIA-9> rene * r11171 /branches/2.1/package/powerpc/gtkpbbuttons/gtkpbbuttons.desc: * merged r11168 from trunk: updated gtkpbbuttons (0.6.4 -> 0.6.7)
10:57 < Shingo--> rxr: I'm subscribed, but the last message I don't why, don't hav arrive to list. i'm use gmail. you known how gmail works. :)
10:59 < Shingo--> well, the messages has arrived. I think the problem just only time.
11:43 < CIA-9> rene * r11172 /trunk/package/powerpc/macosd/macosd.desc: * updated macosd (0.1.9 -> 0.1.10)
11:57 < CIA-9> rene * r11173 /trunk/package/network/samba/samba.desc: * updated samba (3.0.14a -> 3.0.20)
11:57 < CIA-9> rene * r11174 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.6.9 -> 2.6.10)
12:00 < CIA-9> martin * r11175 /trunk/package/powerpc/macosd/macosd.desc: * updated URL ;-)
12:14 < CIA-9> rene * r11176 /trunk/package/ (5 files in 5 dirs): * even more rocklinux-consulting.de -> exactcode.de transition
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12:16 < Baldzius> hi all :)
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12:24 < rxr> hi Baldzius
12:26 < Baldzius> hi rxr, do you have a min?
12:26 < rxr> oehm - yep
12:27 < Baldzius> i am going to build desktop target and noticed there are no xfce4 desktop in default package list
12:27 < Baldzius> how do i add it?
12:27 < rxr> I think:
12:27 < rxr> - enable expert options
12:27 < rxr> - enable custom package selection
12:27 < rxr> - add the rule: X xfce4/*
12:27 < rxr> should do
12:28 < Baldzius> and what about dependencies?
12:29 < Baldzius> o better way is to compile all packages? :)
12:30 < Shingo--> rxr: can you download gtk+?
12:30 < Shingo--> the mirror and original fails.
12:31 < Shingo--> (28) Operation too slow.
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12:43 < rxr> Shingo--: of course I have the file
12:43 < rxr> too bad the mirros are currently a bit down
12:44 < rxr> Baldzius: the above should compile all you need for xfce IIRC
12:44 < Baldzius> ok thanks :)
12:44 < morfoh> moin
12:45 < CIA-9> rene * r11177 /trunk/package/x11/linuxwacom/linuxwacom.desc: * updated linuxwacom (0.6.8 -> 0.6.9)
12:45 < rxr> moin morfoh
12:45 < Shingo--> rxr: the information you have passed to Baldzius should be explicit in manual soon as possible.
12:46 < morfoh> hi rxr ... .oO( damn .... my cold won't go away )o
12:46 < valentin> morfoh: get out in the sun
12:46 < morfoh> Shingo--: do you wanna have access to our trac wiki ? then you could add it adhoc ;)
12:47 < morfoh> hey papa valentino :)
12:47 < Baldzius> oh so you have wiki
12:47 < morfoh> valentin: do you think this would really help
12:47 < Baldzius> that's good :)
12:47 < rxr> morfoh: get a hot milk with honey
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12:48 < Shingo--> rxr: the rule X xfce4/* if I Knew this information minutes before, my brother had not removed t2 from they machine. :(
12:48 < morfoh> Baldzius: yep .... our issue tracker has a wiki system too, but we recently started using it ....
12:49 < Baldzius> :)
12:50 < Shingo--> morfoh: sure, but what really is adhoc?
12:51 < Baldzius> damn i wish i had good internet, those 64kb/s are killing me :)
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12:53 < minto> hi folks
12:53 < Shingo--> minto: hi
13:04 < CIA-9> rene * r11178 /trunk/package/x11/netpbm/netpbm.desc: * updated netpbm (10.28 -> 10.29)
13:05 < CIA-9> rene * r11179 /trunk/package/ (graphic/netpbm/ x11/netpbm/): * moved x11/netpbm -> graphic
13:05 < CIA-9> rene * r11180 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.11.13 -> 0.11.14)
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13:10 < CIA-9> rene * r11181 /trunk/package/develop/boost/boost.desc: * updated boost (1.32.0 -> 1.33.0)
13:10 < CIA-9> rene * r11182 /trunk/package/ (gnome2/gxine/ multimedia/gxine/): * moved gnome/gxine -> multimedia
13:25 < CIA-9> rene * r11183 /trunk/scripts/config.in: * added some glue code to set the PARALLEL_MAX to "detected cpus" * 2
13:26 < CIA-9> rene * r11184 /trunk/package/base/gawk/gawk.desc: * updated gawk (3.1.4 -> 3.1.5)
13:29 < CIA-9> rene * r11185 /branches/2.1/package/powerpc/macosd/macosd.desc: * merged r11172 and r11175: updated macosd (0.1.9 -> 0.1.10) and URL
13:32 < CIA-9> rene * r11186 /branches/2.1/package/ (5 files in 5 dirs): * merged r11176 from trunk: rocklinux-consulting.de -> exactcode.de transition
13:53 < CIA-9> rene * r11187 /trunk/package/gnome2/vazaar/ (. vazaar.cache vazaar.conf vazaar.desc):
13:53 < CIA-9> Rui Andrada :
13:53 < CIA-9> * added vazaar (0.2.6a)
13:54 < CIA-9> rene * r11188 /trunk/misc/archive/Commit.sh:
13:54 < CIA-9> * now, with more patches on the mailing list, improved Commit.sh
13:54 < CIA-9> helper to allow log edit before commit ,-)
13:55 < CIA-9> rene * r11189 /trunk/package/gnome2/gksu/ (. gksu.cache gksu.desc):
13:55 < CIA-9> Rui Andrada :
13:55 < CIA-9> * added gksu (1.2.6)
13:55 < CIA-9> rene * r11190 /trunk/package/audio/imms/ (. imms.cache imms.desc):
13:55 < CIA-9> Rui Andrada :
13:55 < CIA-9> * added imms (2.1.1)
14:19 < Shingo--> rxr: you have forgotten libgksu*
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14:24 < rxr> shingo--: of course not - my girlfiend only needed my to trace why the t2 php does not build with mysql support ...
14:26 < CIA-9> rene * r11191 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgksu/ (. libgksu.cache libgksu.desc):
14:26 < CIA-9> Rui Andrada :
14:26 < CIA-9> * added libgksu (1.3.0)
14:27 < CIA-9> rene * r11192 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgksuui/ (. libgksuui.cache libgksuui.desc):
14:27 < CIA-9> Rui Andrada :
14:27 < CIA-9> * added libgksuui (1.0.5)
14:35 < CIA-9> rene * r11193 /trunk/package/develop/rapidsvn/ (rapidsvn.cache rapidsvn.conf rapidsvn.desc):
14:35 < CIA-9> Rui Andrada :
14:35 < CIA-9> * updated rapidsvn (0.8.0 -> 0.8.1)
14:38 < CIA-9> rene * r11194 /trunk/package/ (5 files in 5 dirs): * tiny tweaks for new packages descriptions
14:39 < rxr> 1790 packages in tree
14:40 < Baldzius> and GB?
14:40 < rxr> Baldzius: ?
14:41 < Baldzius> total size
14:42 < Baldzius> maybe one day i'll sync all mirror
14:42 < Baldzius> if itsn't big
14:45 < rxr> 5.0G mirror-t2-2.1/download
14:45 < rxr> 3.5G mirror-t2-2.2/download
14:45 < rxr> 8.5G total
14:45 < rxr> right now
14:46 < Baldzius> hm
14:46 < Baldzius> not big
14:46 < Baldzius> i thought it's bigger
14:47 < Baldzius> and why 2.2 is smaller?
14:50 < rxr> less history - we keep 6 month of old package versions or so ...
14:52 < Baldzius> i see
14:53 < Baldzius> i just need now to get DSL :)
14:56 < rxr> ,-)
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14:59 < sparc-kly> gsmp.tfh-berlin.de is down ?
15:00 < rxr> sparc-kly: well - sort of - more probably some router on the way
15:01 < rxr> unfortunatly at the weekend we do not have access to the university - so I have to wait for the router before it to come up again ...
15:01 < rxr> e.g. one router is nexus.tfh-berlin.de - but there are more in the line
15:02 < rxr> so I do not blame the nexus (FreeBSD) box (yet)
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15:13 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
15:13 [Users #t2]
15:13 [ _Lewellyn] [ CIA-9] [ menomc] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ]
15:13 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ dsoul] [ minto ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
15:13 [ Baldzius ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
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15:35 < rxr> http://freshmeat.net/projects/hotplugpp/
15:35 < rxr> ^- /me resurrected rockplug into hotplug++
15:42 < valentin> short re
15:43 * rxr off for climbing - cu
15:43 < valentin> cu rxr
15:44 < rxr> cu
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15:57 -!- Topic set by vilkacis [] [Tue Aug 9 23:45:30 2005]
15:57 [Users #t2]
15:57 [ _Lewellyn] [ CIA-9] [ menomc] [ nzg ] [ SerWou ]
15:57 [ _Ragnar_ ] [ dsoul] [ minto ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
15:57 [ Baldzius ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
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16:15 < morfoh> re hi
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17:34 < keinek> hi
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19:27 < morfoh> re hi
19:29 < valentin> re
19:29 < morfoh> hi valentin
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19:55 < rxr_> re
19:55 < rxr_> damn - I need more clibing practice ...
19:55 < rxr_> barely reached the top of some routes ...
19:55 < rxr_> :-(
19:55 -!- You're now known as rxr
20:01 < valentin> hi rxr, morfoh
20:02 < valentin> oh morfoh quit
20:05 < Baldzius> i dont think i with my fat ass would reach even one top :)
20:05 < valentin> use the elevator
20:08 < Baldzius> you think there is elevator?
20:10 < Baldzius> i wouldn't be so sure or you 2 like climbing
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22:53 < rxr> re
22:54 < Baldzius> i thought i'm only here alive :)
22:54 < Baldzius> rxr you have a min? :)
22:55 < Baldzius> as always my head is full of stupid questions
22:55 < rxr> oehm - barely ... - but yeah - what Q do you have ?
22:55 < Baldzius> well supose i am building target
22:55 < Baldzius> and one package compile fails
22:56 < Baldzius> if i fix it
22:56 < Baldzius> and restart target build it start from begining?
22:56 < rxr> no
22:56 < rxr> Build-Target only builds missing stuff
22:56 < Baldzius> or where it ended
22:57 < rxr> and it only rebuilds erros automatically up to the stage you selected in the config
22:57 < rxr> the default is 5
22:57 < rxr> so it will abort on an error until stage 5 and will retry those errors when you rerun Build-Target
22:57 < rxr> when you want to rebuild a 5-* or up error you need to remove the .err either manually or using Create-ErrList
22:58 < Baldzius> got it, thank you :)
22:58 < rxr> this is for convinience so that important sutff (pre stage 5) stops the build before causing a lot of errors - and 5-* stuff that is broken (normally less important suff) is not rebuild everytime you start Build-Target again
22:58 < rxr> of course all of this can be tweaked in Config ,-)
23:00 < Baldzius> one thing i miss right now is that Emerge-Pkg doesn't calculate dependecies corectly
23:00 < rxr> the dependencies are generated automatically - some deps are not 100% correct - that is some are too much
23:01 < rxr> those "stay" deps are normally caused by havor Make or configure files that run e.g. dpkg or os for no good reason
23:01 < rxr> that is why mysql (just an example I noticed today) depends on dpkg :-(
23:01 < rxr> I'll continue to improve heuristics so that we soon have perfectly generted dependencies
23:04 < Baldzius> i didn't notice on todo plan , is there maybe it's already in, that i could install t2 system from live, like mepis
23:04 < rxr> well - the latext release not automatically - the next release will include an installer
23:04 < rxr> valentin: right?
23:07 < Baldzius> :)
23:07 < rxr> you could manually using rsync or simillar methods and some post-install work
23:22 < rxr> valentin: Carmack gave the following reply:
23:22 < rxr> Personally, I think the Q3 code is pretty clean on the whole. It was a commercial product done under time pressure, so it isn't a polished gem, but I consider it good.
23:22 < rxr> Anyone working on the Q3 codebase today should just delete all the asm code and use the C implementations. Making a commercial game with fairly high end requirements go 10% faster is sometimes worth writing some asm code, but years later when the frame rate pressure is essentially gone, the asm code should just be dumped in the name of maintainability. All the comments in the world wouldn't change this decision a bit.
23:29 < valentin> hi rxr
23:30 < valentin> well, as you know i have a more or less functional installer for the live cd
23:30 < valentin> only a tmpfs issue
23:31 < valentin> rxr: can you turn on your athlon ?
23:32 < valentin> i need to sync some bits from the original livecd
23:32 < rxr> valentin: it is on - I have no idea what happend
23:32 < rxr> I know ssh is down
23:33 < valentin> ouhm
23:33 < rxr> when I left it was building t2-trunk and was at 5-glibc ...
23:33 < rxr> I'm in susan's kitchen right now ...
23:33 < valentin> is it still running ?
23:33 < rxr> answering pings
23:33 < rxr> but not ssh
23:33 < valentin> hm...
23:34 < rxr> you name it - never happend before
23:34 < rxr> and I know ssh was running when I left
23:34 < rxr> no idea what f*cked up ...
23:34 < rxr> I can review tomorrow after breakfast
23:34 < rxr> btw. I would need to get the iMac back tomorrow I think
23:34 < rxr> what is your schedule for tomorrow ?
23:35 < valentin> in the afternoon i will be in AH
23:36 < rxr> so I better come around lunch time to grab the iMac ?
23:36 < valentin> i hope gsmp will be up in the morning, so we can finish the download of t2 isos first :)
23:36 < rxr> or should we meet at the S-railway ?
23:36 < valentin> rxr: we could do so...
23:36 < rxr> susan has recent ISOs anyway
23:36 < rxr> t2-2.1-trunk
23:37 < valentin> cool..
23:56 * rxr bed - n8 all
23:57 < _Ragnar_> nini rene
23:57 < _Ragnar_> sleep well
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