--- Log opened Fri Jul 29 00:00:00 2005
00:10 < keinek> hi
00:10 < mnemoc> hi traitor
00:10 < keinek> ;)
00:11 < mnemoc> keinek: can you try your target over a pristine copy of 2.1-branch and see if it works as expected?
00:12 < keinek> what is a pristine copy of 2.1-branch?
00:12 < mnemoc> virgen
00:12 < keinek> is the stable?
00:13 < mnemoc> yes, of the stable branch, but untouched
00:13 < keinek> everytime i use the stable for my target.
00:13 < keinek> you add my target on the stable? and you wanna that i svn all files and start again?
00:15 < mnemoc> i want to know if it works as-is
00:16 < keinek> work fine but i need to work a stella package
00:16 < keinek> is the only thing that i modify to working good.
00:17 < mnemoc> can you send the patch?
00:17 < keinek> for stella?
00:17 < CIA-9> chris * r10753 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added openjade to desktop target because gtkdoc needs it
00:17 < keinek> just add stella to the stable.
00:18 < morfoh> mnemoc: openjade included now
00:18 < mnemoc> keinek: add the package request on trunk for milestone 2.1.0
00:18 < mnemoc> morfoh: after testing it, merge that freely to rc2 and -stable :)
00:19 < mnemoc> morfoh: setting abort level to 9 is a good-thing-to-do when you build stables isos :)
00:21 < morfoh> ok ;)
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00:38 < CIA-9> chris * r10754 /branches/2.1/target/desktop/config.in: * merged 10753: adding openjade to desktop target because gtkdoc needs it
00:54 < CIA-9> chris * r10755 /tags/2.1.0-rc2/target/desktop/config.in: * merged 10753: adding openjade to desktop target because gtkdoc needs it
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07:47 < morfoh> moin
07:48 < morfoh> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg desktopaxp
07:48 < morfoh> Error logs from desktopaxp-2.1.0-rc2-x86-athlon-xp-desktop:
07:48 < morfoh> 676 builds total, 652 completed fine, 0 with errors.
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08:44 < SerWou> good morning guys
08:47 < morfoh> bonjour SerWou ... en form ? :)
08:54 < CIA-9> chris * r10756 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added libzvbi to desktop targets pkgsel because zapping needs it
08:57 < CIA-9> chris * r10757 /branches/2.1/target/desktop/config.in: * merged 10756: added libzvbi to desktop targets pkgsel because zapping needs it
08:58 < SerWou> en forme de quoi ? ;) 
08:58 < SerWou> ca va, et toi ?
08:59 < morfoh> SerWou: merci, ca va ca va :)
08:59 < morfoh> SerWou: finished rc2 desktop athlon xp target :)
08:59 < SerWou> good
08:59 < morfoh> I guess we will have some fresh iso's soon :)
09:00 < SerWou> i did one based on a friend template : 2D/3D Workstation target, and gonna make one soon called "Netstation" for all basic internet oriented works ;)
09:01 < morfoh> nice :)
09:01 < morfoh> SerWou: will you make it public available ?
09:02 < SerWou> i don't know, why not
09:02 < SerWou> but i'm a newbie
09:03 < morfoh> SerWou: no problem ... as you might have noticed keinek has also done a gaming target :)
09:03 < morfoh> SerWou: anyway ... all contribution is welcomed :)
09:04 < CIA-9> chris * r10758 /tags/2.1.0-rc2/target/desktop/config.in: * merged 10756: added libzvbi to desktop targets pkgsel because zapping needs it
09:04 < SerWou> online gaming target ?
09:05 < SerWou> well
09:05 < morfoh> SerWou: no ... I think he has included different emulators for playing atari, 
09:05 < morfoh> etc
09:05 < SerWou> gtg, work time here ;) catch you later guys
09:05 < SerWou> ha 
09:05 < SerWou> nice too ;)
09:06 < morfoh> but it's not included officially ... he send the diff to the ML
09:06 < SerWou> ok
09:06 < morfoh> if you want ... just make a diff of your target's dir and send it to the mailing list too ;)
09:07 < SerWou> i'm away now, see you later ;)
09:07 < morfoh> cu :)
09:07 < SerWou> maybe in september, no free time at the moment
09:07 < SerWou> A+
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10:32 < minto> quick hi
10:34 < morfoh> quick hi back :)
10:34 < morfoh> minto: rc2 desktop athlon-xp finished ;)
10:35 < morfoh> guess we'll have fresh iso's for pmmx, p4, athlon-xp at the end of this weekend
10:36 < minto> mnemoc, morfoh: noisy is spinning
10:36 < minto> I did a fresh svn checkout 2.1.0-rc2 in /mnt/space/t2
10:36 < minto> shared the downloads with the existing 2.1
10:36 < morfoh> minto: you'll leave noisy switched on ?
10:36 < minto> in 2.1 a boot-64 is running (bootdisk 64 bits) currently already in stage 5
10:36 < morfoh> :)
10:36 < minto> in 2.1.0-rc2 a min-64-no-opt (generic minimal without optimizations) has just been started
10:36 < morfoh> minto: I'll take care of your build as much as possible ... because I'll move to the new flat tomrrow
10:37 < minto> Looks like we get really close to releasing 2.1 :-)
10:37 < morfoh> yes :)
10:37 < morfoh> yippi :)
10:37 < minto> morfoh: mnemoc has access too
10:37 < morfoh> you can organize a pig that we can paint :)
10:37 < morfoh> good :)
10:37 < minto> I 'll send you one ;-)
10:38 < morfoh> thanks ... but I don't paint or eat pigs ... 
10:38 < morfoh> :)
10:39 < minto> 2.1/boot-64: 165 builds total, 108 completed fine, 0 with errors.
10:39 < morfoh> :)
10:39 < morfoh> minto please do a svn up 
10:39 < morfoh> on rc2
10:39 < morfoh> I've added 2 packages 
10:39 < minto> when ?
10:40 < morfoh> last night and today in the morning
10:40 < minto> I did, no update
10:40 < morfoh> just run svn up
10:40 < minto> I just did the check-out about 1 hour ago
10:40 < morfoh> a ok
10:40 < morfoh> that should be ok
10:41 < minto> 2.1.0-rc2/min-64-no-opt: 164 builds total, 12 completed fine, 0 with errors.
10:41 < minto> hmm, minimal has less packages than boot
10:42 < morfoh> ok minto ... I'Ve to go ... I wish you a nice vacation
10:42 < minto> thanks, cu
10:42 < morfoh> greetings to your family :)
10:42 < minto> :-)
10:42 < morfoh> and "have fun!" :)
10:43 < minto> I gotta go too, bye all.
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10:43 < morfoh> bye 
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12:10 < minto> :-) another quick hi
12:11 < minto> 2.1/boot-64 nearly completed without failure
12:11 < minto> Creating initrd data:
12:11 < minto> -> Create linuxrc binary.
12:11 < minto> /mnt/space/t2/2.1/build/boot-64-2.1.0-rc3-x86-64-bootdisk/usr/dietlibc/lib-x86_64/start.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
12:11 < minto> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
12:12 < minto> mnemoc, morfoh: ----^
12:12 < minto> this might be due to the 32 bits filesystem on noisy
12:18 < minto> Current x86 build status:
12:18 < minto> 2.1.0-rc2/min-64-no-opt:      164 builds total, 29 completed fine, 0 with errors.
12:18 < minto> 2.1.0-rc2/boot-32:                164 builds total, 13 completed fine, 0 with errors.
12:18 < minto> 2.1.0-rc2/desktop-64-no-opt: 677 builds total, 6 completed fine, 0 with errors.
12:25 < morfoh> minto: I've a problem with P4 boodiesk too :(
12:26 < morfoh> minto: but I've no time :(
12:28 < morfoh> minto: if you got no time just leave it as it is .... I'll try to take a look at it this evening. and I'll ask mnemoc too if he could do the same 
12:36 < minto> unfortunately I have no time too. I have screen running (as root) I every terminal (ctrl-a 0,1,2,3) I have started a build :-)
12:36 < minto> The one is 0 failed
12:36 < morfoh> minto: ack ... :)
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13:04 < karasz> moin guys
13:05 < karasz> i must recompile T2's 2.6 kernel
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13:05 < azureus> hello
13:05 < karasz> anyone knows where to find the config file used for the stock compilation?
13:12 < sepp> karasz: /etc/ROCK-CONFIG/
13:13 < morfoh> karasz: also take a look into ->> http://dl.exactcode.de/t2-handbook/html/t2-handbookch20.html#x95-18200020
13:14 < morfoh> karasz: you can place a custom kernel config file "linux.cfg" into config/foo
13:15 < morfoh> karasz: and check out the linux options while you are in expert mode of Config
13:15 < morfoh> btw, hi sepp
13:15 < morfoh> and hi azureus 
13:15 < morfoh> cu later ... 
13:16 < sepp> hi morfoh and cu :)
13:16 < morfoh> :)
13:16 < karasz> hi morfoh sepp 
13:17 < karasz> cu morfoh 
13:17 < sepp> hi karasz 
13:17 < karasz> sepp: i was talking abt kernel config file
13:18 < karasz> not T2 target config
13:18 < sepp> ahh /boot/kconfig*
13:19 < karasz> yes
13:19 < karasz> that is it
13:19 < karasz> I unbz2d the linux-2.6* package
13:20 < karasz> in `/usr/src/linux*`
13:20 < karasz> now i should cp /boot/kconfig* /usr/src/linux*
13:21 < karasz> what should be its name there?
13:21 < sepp> .config
13:21 < karasz> `.`config?
13:21 < karasz> with a dot in front?
13:21 < sepp> yes
13:22 < sepp> ".config"
13:22 < karasz> and make menuconfig will use it... right?
13:22 < sepp> yes
13:22 < karasz> ok thanx
13:22 < karasz> cu later guys
13:23 < sepp> cu
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13:47 < minto> Current x86-64 build status:
13:47 < minto> 2.1.0-rc2/min-64-no-opt: 164 builds total, 67 completed fine, 0 with errors.
13:47 < minto> 2.1.0-rc2/boot-32: 164 builds total, 40 completed fine, 0 with errors.
13:47 < minto> 2.1.0-rc2/desktop-64-no-opt: 677 builds total, 19 completed fine, 1 with errors. :-(  [1] base/linux26
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14:33 < karasz> guys
14:33 < karasz> i made another discovery
14:33 < karasz> anyone interested in why agpgart didn't worked?
14:33 < karasz> now it works... :)
14:34 < sepp> what was the problem?
14:34 < karasz> i didn't have the `/dev/agpgart` file
14:35 < karasz> so i made the following
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14:35 < karasz> `cd /dev ; mknod agpgart c 10 175`
14:36 < karasz> now whet i load the i810 module i have X
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15:10 < karasz> sepp: what do you think?
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15:15 < karasz> hi guys...
15:15 < karasz> i mean re hi
15:16 < karasz> !
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15:26 < karasz> ^1
15:36 < karasz> mr. morfoh are you around?
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16:40 < karasz> hi again guys
16:41 < karasz> i am gettin closer to an usable mnemosyne +kade
16:41 < karasz> kade-kde
16:47 < mnemoc> rehi
16:47 < mnemoc> karasz: :)
16:47 < karasz> yuhu mr. mnemoc 
16:47 < karasz> i solved the agpgart issue
16:47 < mnemoc> how?
16:48 < mnemoc> (to add an entry on the FAQ)
16:48 < karasz> looked in /boot/kconfig
16:48 < mnemoc> what was missing?
16:48 < karasz> agpgart and intel-agp are builtin not modules
16:48 < karasz> nothing is missing
16:48 < mnemoc> then, why i810 screamed?
16:48 < karasz> however there is no /dev/agpgart file
16:49 < karasz> i created that file
16:49 < mnemoc> oh
16:49 < karasz> `cd /dev ; mknod agpgart c 10 175
16:50 < karasz> after that i did modprobe i810
16:50 < karasz> it was ok
16:50 < karasz> another issue was firefox
16:50 < karasz> when i built mnemokde i choosed firefox
16:51 < karasz> firefox built ok
16:51 < keinek> morning
16:51 < keinek> :P
16:51 < karasz> but didn't start
16:51 < mnemoc> jsaw: how should we mknod (mknod agpgart c 10 175) during boot up on rockplug/devfs?
16:51 < mnemoc> hi keinek 
16:51 < mnemoc> karasz: what issue then?
16:51 < keinek> i sleep a lot
16:51 < keinek> 11:52 am :O
16:51 < keinek> :(
16:51 < karasz> i left it that way and emerged kdenetwork
16:52 < karasz> firefox didn't start
16:52 < mnemoc> karasz: you have to run it once as root
16:52 < mnemoc> karasz: crappy mozilla policies
16:52 < karasz> throw an error abt gtk
16:52 < mnemoc> oh
16:52 < mnemoc> keinek: :)
16:52 < karasz> installing kdenetwork brings gtk+12
16:52 < mnemoc> uhm
16:52 < karasz> agter that firefox is ok
16:53 < mnemoc> weird
16:53 < karasz> in firefox cache there is only gtk+
16:53 < karasz> guess it needs gtk+12
16:53 < mnemoc> yes, i have gtk+12 nowhere
16:53 < mnemoc> and everything is happy
16:53 < karasz> what firefox do youy use?
16:53 < mnemoc> 1.0.5
16:54 < karasz> hmmm
16:54 < karasz> i look if can find the err...
16:56 < mnemoc>   [10:57:18] Creating iso/t2-minimal-2.1.0-rc1-pmmx_cd1.iso ...
16:56 < mnemoc>   [10:57:44] Done. Have fun!
16:56 < karasz> rc1?
16:56 < mnemoc> oops
16:56 < karasz> :)
16:57 < mnemoc> # rm -rf iso/*
16:57 < mnemoc> # ./scripts/Create-ISO t2-minimal-2.1.0-rc2-pmmx boot minimal
16:58 < mnemoc>   [10:58:53] Creating iso/t2-minimal-2.1.0-rc2-pmmx_cd1.iso ...
16:58 < mnemoc>   [10:59:16] Done. Have fun!
17:04 < karasz> so mr mnemoc how will end this issue with agpgart ?
17:10 < mnemoc> karasz: no idea... devfs should have created that node
17:10 < karasz> it does not
17:10 < mnemoc> karasz: i guess an instruction on modules.conf may solve it
17:10 < karasz> and from what i saw others have the same issue :)
17:11 < mnemoc> karasz: can you file the issue on trac?
17:12 < karasz> and by thers i mean other distros ...:)
17:12 < karasz> http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2002/01/msg00168.html
17:13 < karasz> i will file a trac
17:17 < karasz> http://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/57
17:18 < mnemoc> thanks
17:20 < karasz> i will go now cu in a couple of hours
17:20 < mnemoc> cu karasz 
17:20 < karasz> mr. mnemoc any chanse of promotion?
17:21 < mnemoc> i'm alredy married :)
17:21 < karasz> i mean parrot is ok, but maybe something higher ...
17:21 < karasz> i didn't get that?
17:21 < karasz> maried?
17:21 < mnemoc> yep :)
17:21 < karasz> hmmmm congrats i guess but how does that come here?
17:22 < mnemoc> err
17:22 < mnemoc> i miss read 'ppromotion'
17:22 < mnemoc> missread*
17:22 < karasz> :)
17:22 < karasz> so
17:22 < karasz> i mean parrot is ok, but maybe something higher ...
17:23 < karasz> like cheef parrot?
17:23 < mnemoc> uhm?
17:23 < mnemoc> what do you mean?
17:24 < karasz> moving upwards on T2 .... hierarchy
17:24 < karasz> :D
17:25 < karasz> yeah that would be me...
17:26 < karasz> karasz cheef of parrots, finder of the not very usefull solutions for bugs of no importance ..:D
17:26 < mnemoc> T2 is too small for a hierarchy
17:26 < karasz> :(
17:27 < karasz> ok ok i was just kidding anyway
17:27 < mnemoc> if you find a clean persistant solution of #57, please send a patch :)
17:27 < karasz> do not take me seriously if i do nat say that in front
17:27 < mnemoc> :)
17:28 < mnemoc> T2 hierarchy is just: <rene> -- <people with write access> -- <people without write access yet>
17:28 < karasz> i do not think so, but it worth a look
17:28 < karasz> you see, there is a hierarchy
17:28 < karasz> :)
17:29 < mnemoc> but you need to help for a couple of months at least, so you learn the implicit policies, before getting the right to mess on the repository :)
17:30 < karasz> i can't hadle repository 
17:30 < karasz> at least yet :)
17:31 < karasz> so pastebin.com for me ... :D
17:31 < mnemoc> i prefer mailed patches
17:31 < karasz> anyway i found the GDK err
17:31 < mnemoc> so people can comment
17:31 < karasz> one step at the time 
17:32 < karasz> `Gdk-WARNING ** : gdk_property_get() : length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?)`
17:33 < mnemoc> add the issue :)
17:33 < karasz> but i guess the prob was not this since i get this right now and firefox is running
17:34 < karasz> i can only tell that firefox started running AFTER i emerged kdenetwork (and ofcourse all its dependencies)
17:38 < mnemoc> karasz: can you show me the exact i810/agpgart error?
17:42 < karasz> i will try to find it
17:43 < mnemoc> remove the stop X, remove the node and start it again :p
17:44 < karasz> :D
17:44 < _Ragnar_> greets from defcon
17:47 < mnemoc> /google defcon
17:47 < mnemoc> yuck
17:48 < _Ragnar_> :D
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17:50 < mnemoc> hi sepp_ 
17:50 < karasz> hi sepp
17:50 < karasz> mr. mnemoc pastebin or here?
17:50 < mnemoc> follow your instinct
17:51 < karasz> (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (No such file or directory)
17:51 < karasz> (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available. Make sure your kernel > has
17:51 < karasz> agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded.
17:51 < karasz> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
17:51 < karasz> Fatal server error:
17:51 < karasz> no screens found
17:51 < mnemoc> thanks :)
17:51 < mnemoc> btw, can you add it to your itcket?
17:51 < sepp_> hi mnemoc, karasz :)
17:52 < karasz> sure mr. mnemoc 
17:52 < mnemoc> s/mr. //
17:54 < sepp_> arg damn network hardware i had to pull the power supply out 3 times this week to really reset it
17:55 < karasz> mnemoc: done
17:55 < karasz> s/mr. // means skip the `mr` ?
17:55 < mnemoc> yes
17:56 < karasz> ok, but it was not intended to offend you in any way
17:57 < karasz> anyway ticket 57 updated
17:57 < karasz> and now i realy got to go for a couple of hours
17:58 < mnemoc> cu karasz 
17:58 < mnemoc> thanks for fileing the issue
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19:42 < karasz> re hi guys
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20:02 < karasz> guys... another stuff
20:02 < karasz> when loading KDE for the first time it is supposed to do some config
20:03 < karasz> especialy i find usefull to run `kappfinder` which populates the K menu
20:09 < karasz> O_O
20:10 < karasz> why dows vlc need mplayer???
20:10 < mnemoc> not all dependencies are mandatory
20:11 < karasz> i did emerge vlc and now dlded mlayer and builds it...
20:11 < mnemoc> you can use -deps=none
20:12 < mnemoc> Emerge doesn't know about optional and mandatory dependencies, it simply consider them all
20:12 < karasz> i did't mind building it, but i don't understand why vlc.cache lists mplayer
20:12 < karasz> i mean it is there for some reason just i don't get it.
20:13 < sepp_> maybe vlc borrows some features from mplayer
20:13 < mnemoc> it has a plugin afaik
20:13 < karasz> i don't know yhe linux version but the  windows one has nothing to do with mplayer
20:14 < mnemoc> karasz: .cache files are generated considering what the package reading during build
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20:15 < karasz> mnemoc: can you point out for me some documentation about adding new packages to T2?
20:16 < mnemoc> iirc in the handbook there is a chapter about that
20:16 < mnemoc> but you can starting clonning other package
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20:17 < karasz> by the way i did check out that mknod stuff, but for now i guess that is too hard for me... sorry :(
20:17 < karasz> so no patches yet...
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22:26 < karasz> guys i leave you for now
22:26 < karasz> tired and beaten, but proud
22:27 < karasz> advancing step by step from parrot to mr. as minto once said 
22:30 < karasz> cu guys tomorrow
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