--- Log opened Tue Jul 05 00:00:00 2005
00:00 < mnemoc> ok, i'll try to remove those bast*
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00:01 < karasz> hi
00:01 < karasz> anybody here?
00:02 < jsaw> karasz: what's going on there?
00:02 < karasz> failed check_python
00:02 < karasz> while buiding xen-tools
00:02 < jsaw> bootdisk?
00:03 < karasz> ?
00:03 < jsaw> which "target"?
00:03 < karasz> desktop
00:04 < karasz> should I emerge python?
00:04 < jsaw> will you use xen?
00:04 < karasz> i don't
00:05 < jsaw> it's easier to disable this package for now
00:05 < karasz> i said Buld-target
00:05 < karasz> i said Build-target
00:05 < karasz> run Config again?
00:06 < jsaw> yes, expert options, package selection
00:07 < jsaw> add "- xen-tools"
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00:07 < keinek> buenas
00:07 < keinek> hi
00:07 < jsaw> hola
00:08 < karasz> edit package selection rules?
00:08 < jsaw> yes
00:08 < jsaw> [*] Custom package selection
00:08 < jsaw> also
00:08 < morfoh> keinek: hola secretary of gaming@t2
00:08 < jsaw> :)
00:08 < keinek> :)
00:09 < karasz> I have already O uml_utilities...
00:09 < karasz> should I add -xen-tools or O xen-tools
00:09 < jsaw> well, "O ..."
00:10 < jsaw> rxr: ping
00:10 < mnemoc> - xen-tools will kill it forever
00:10 < karasz> done
00:11  * karasz Buil-Target again....
00:11  * karasz Build(ing)-Target again....
00:11 < jsaw> :)
00:11 < karasz> i hope it wil pick up where it left off....
00:12 < karasz> building on a PIII with 512 ram is not fun...
00:12 < morfoh> karasz: ack :)
00:20 < mnemoc> karasz: building ooo is not fun
00:23 < karasz> another error
00:23 < jsaw> and that is?
00:24 < karasz> to avoid the need to call pkg-config. See the pkg-confi...
00:24 < karasz> aborted buiding package syslog-ng
00:25 < karasz> to get pkg-config, see <http://www.freedesktop.org/softw...
00:26 < karasz> maybe O pkg-config???
00:27 < jsaw> grep pkgconfig config/$config/packages
00:27 < jsaw> X in front ?
00:27 < jsaw> ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg $config ?
00:27 < jsaw> pkgconfig in this list?
00:28 < karasz> moment
00:29 < karasz> grep pkgconfig/$config/packages => x ------ 5 ---- 120.600 base pkgconfig 0.16.0 / base/tool 0
00:30 < jsaw> small "x" ??
00:30 < jsaw> really ?
00:30 < karasz> big x
00:30 < jsaw> ok.
00:30 < karasz> grep pkgconfig/$config/packages => X ------ 5 ---- 120.600 base pkgconfig 0.16.0 / base/tool 0
00:30 < karasz> ./scri......
00:31 < karasz> [3] base/syslog-ng
00:31 < jsaw> so check output of Create-ErrList
00:31 < karasz> 699 buids total, 111 completed fine, 1 with errors
00:31 < jsaw> ic
00:31 < karasz> 699 builds total, 111 completed fine, 1 with errors
00:31 < jsaw> that's strange
00:32 < karasz> if it is starnge to you to me is alien...:)
00:33 < karasz> any ideas?
00:33 < jsaw> see query
00:35 < karasz> ?
00:35 < jsaw> which irc client are u using?
00:35 < karasz> mirc
00:37 < rxr> ouhm
00:37 < rxr> ok - that was a long work day ...
00:37 < jsaw> which is auto-translated to "g'night rxr!"
00:38 < rxr> hehe - yes - thanks - you all too ,-)
00:38 < morfoh> good night rxr 
00:39 < morfoh> I'll go sleep too ... cu tomorrow
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00:43 < rxr> nice to see my scanner i/o core driving scanners with real, valuable papers at up to 30 pages in production environments ...
00:43 < rxr> cu
00:46 < mnemoc> cu rxr
00:50 < jsaw> mnemoc: can u check if 2.1 has pkgconfig in stage 5 only?
00:50 < jsaw> syslog-ng seems to need it (which is in stage 3 in trunk)
00:50 < mnemoc>  grep pkgconfig config/ref/packages
00:50 < mnemoc> X -----5---- 120.600 base pkgconfig 0.16.0 / base/tool 0
00:51 < jsaw> aha
00:51 < mnemoc> i would use the 8 stages, rene want to use just 2 :\
00:51 < mnemoc> +{0,9}
00:51 < jsaw> what's about syslog-ng?
00:52 < jsaw> which stage in 2.1?
00:52 < mnemoc> 5 is usppose
00:52 < mnemoc> # grep syslog-ng config/ref/packages
00:52 < mnemoc> X ---3------ 186.900 base syslog-ng 1.6.8 / base/system 0
00:52 < mnemoc> uhm
00:52 < mnemoc> so, it doesn't _need_ pkgconfig
00:52 < jsaw> hmmm...
00:53 < jsaw> karasz: pkgconfig seems not to be the actual problem...
00:54 < karasz> that's right
00:54 < karasz> syslog-ng error again
00:54 < jsaw> but pkgconfig built fine...or?
00:54 < jsaw> paste the tail -n50 of the error-log in the query window
00:54 < karasz> I closed that window :(
00:55 < jsaw> wait
00:55 < mnemoc> karasz: type /query jsaw 
00:55 < jsaw> :)
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00:57 < jsaw> ups
00:58 < mnemoc> jsaw: pastebin.com :)
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00:58 < jsaw> sorry, didn't know there's a limit in query...
00:58 < jsaw> use pastebin.com as mnemoc recommended
00:59 < karasz> I didn't see that recomandation
01:00 < karasz> done
01:00 < karasz> pastebin.com
01:01 < mnemoc> karasz: paste the url _with_ the paste id
01:01 < mnemoc> that makes things easier
01:01 < jsaw> http://pastebin.com/307524
01:01 < jsaw> mnemoc: that's strange...
01:01 < jsaw> it indeed bails out on syslog-ng...
01:02 < jsaw> oh damn, it requires glib ???
01:02 < mnemoc> irssi required glib :D
01:02 < jsaw> harhar
01:02 < mnemoc> requires*
01:02 < jsaw> irssi ok, but "syslog"
01:02 < mnemoc> :)
01:02 < mnemoc> NG
01:03 < jsaw> what does NG mean? BLOAT?
01:03 < mnemoc> next generation
01:03 < mnemoc> the bloat revange 
01:04 < jsaw> 2.1 has syslog-ng 1.6.8
01:04 < jsaw> trunk is something like 1.9.4
01:04 < jsaw> hmmm.
01:04 < mnemoc> interesting :)
01:04 < mnemoc> i wont update on 2.1 :p
01:05 < jsaw> karasz: actually at this point I would recommend switching to the stable tree
01:05 < jsaw> at least for a new user...
01:06 < jsaw> of course the best would be, if you start digging into t2 build script functionality and fix the problem ;)
01:07 < karasz> ?
01:07 < mnemoc> karasz: use the stable tree
01:07 < mnemoc> :)
01:07 < karasz> i thought that this is stable tree
01:08 < karasz> i got it through svn.... stable
01:08 < jsaw> mnemoc: see and throw up: http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/faq.html#glib
01:08 < mnemoc> karasz: what exactly did you do to get that T2 source?
01:09 < karasz> hmmm
01:09 < karasz> first of all i dld pmmx minimal iso
01:09 < mnemoc> and?
01:09 < karasz> then since it doesnt contain nor t2 source nor svn i got a tarball from minto
01:10 < mnemoc> jsaw: cool... it's static so it's not bloat! :\
01:10 < karasz> then after several bild atempts somebody told me to use svn from tarball and dld t2 stable which i did
01:11 < jsaw> somehow I here an echo "software is best written self"
01:11 < karasz> then i made a download -required for descktop
01:11 < karasz> then run Config
01:11 < karasz> optimized for piii
01:11 < jsaw> mnemoc meant the t2 build script sources
01:12 < karasz> i thought that
01:12 < jsaw> "grep url .svn/entries"
01:12 < mnemoc> karasz: type svn info on your t2 root
01:12 < mnemoc> jsaw: :)
01:12 < jsaw> :)
01:12 < karasz> :)
01:13 < karasz> svn: '.' is not a working copy
01:13 < karasz> :)(
01:13 < mnemoc> grep sdever scripts/parse-config
01:13 < karasz> sdver=2.2.0-alpha
01:14 < karasz> alpha<>stable I guess ;)
01:14 < mnemoc> well... your are using an snapshot of a copy of the development (unstable) branch
01:15 < karasz> what can I say...
01:15 < mnemoc> i guess you are using an snapshot of minto's amd64 hacked branch of the trunk
01:16 < karasz> It may be so
01:16 < mnemoc> cd /usr/src
01:16 < mnemoc> svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 t2-stable
01:17 < karasz> i must redo my Config and download -required?
01:18 < mnemoc> mv or cp -al download and config dirs from your copy of minto-hacked-trunk into t2-stable
01:18 < karasz> before svn?
01:18 < mnemoc> after
01:18 < karasz> ok
01:19 < karasz> build is gone isn't it?
01:19 < jsaw> first do the svn
01:19 < karasz> checked out revision 9978
01:19 < jsaw> wow, fast...
01:19 < mnemoc> oh
01:19 < karasz> ?
01:20 < mnemoc> i want your link
01:20 < jsaw> me too
01:20 < karasz> what link?
01:20 < jsaw> your cable connection
01:20 < karasz> Radio not cable
01:20 < jsaw> ?
01:20 < karasz> radio connection not cable connection
01:21 < karasz> i guess you mean my internet connection
01:21 < karasz> ?
01:21 < mnemoc> yes
01:21 < jsaw> yep
01:21 < jsaw> :)
01:21 < mnemoc> we are impressed by you radio internet connection
01:21 < karasz> what config files do I need?
01:21 < mnemoc> everything inside config/$yourconfig/
01:22 < karasz> ok
01:24 < karasz> moved config and dld
01:24 < karasz> now Build-Target?
01:24 < jsaw> mnemoc: can he move build with proper path adaptions too?
01:25 < jsaw> or are there too many differences?
01:25 < karasz> build doesn't matter for me very much
01:25 < karasz> i preffer a clean buid
01:26 < karasz> so should I Build-target now?
01:26 < karasz> or is something else to do before
01:26 < karasz> ?
01:28 < karasz> guys...?
01:28 < jsaw> you have to "./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig; ./scripts/Download -cfg $config -required" again
01:28 < jsaw> there might be some packages, which have different versions
01:29 < jsaw> not all but some
01:29 < jsaw> the you're ready for Build-Target
01:29 < jsaw> s/the/then/
01:29 < mnemoc> jsaw: version differences mainly
01:30 < mnemoc> don't mix trunk builds with 2.1 builds
01:30 < karasz> wow
01:30 < jsaw> ?
01:30 < karasz> Chile is up...
01:30 < mnemoc> ?
01:31 < karasz> when i did the other dld no server from chile was availabel
01:31 < jsaw> :)
01:31 < karasz> by the way
01:31 < mnemoc> i changed ISP during the weekend
01:31 < mnemoc> that makes some DNS troubles
01:31 < karasz> with who should i talk ro set up a mirror ?
01:32 < mnemoc> there are two file sources, rene and i
01:32 < mnemoc> i keep hardlinks per-release trees
01:32 < karasz> ok, what are the requrements?
01:33 < mnemoc> rene keeps per mayor (X.Y) version trees removing files by age
01:33 < karasz> bandwith, space...
01:33 < mnemoc> space, 7G here
01:33 < mnemoc> bandwidth, whatever you can give
01:34 < mnemoc> Download will skip you if you are slow, but considering your svn co you are _not_ slow
01:34 < karasz> I'm varying, sometimes fast sometimes down for a couple of hours
01:35 < karasz> let me consult with the others 
01:35 < karasz> i am almost sure that it can be arranged
01:35 < mnemoc> rsync -avPH rsync://t2.geeks.cl/mirror your-t2-mirror-place     :)
01:35 < mnemoc> if you want to grab from chile
01:35 < karasz> no
01:35 < mnemoc> i'm a bit distant
01:36 < mnemoc> rene prefers to 'push' files
01:36 < karasz> i am not from chile
01:36 < mnemoc> i am
01:36 < karasz> eastern europe in fact...
01:36 < mnemoc> .ro
01:36 < karasz> yep
01:36 < karasz> .ro
01:37 < mnemoc> <mnemoc> there are two file sources, rene and i
01:37 < karasz> i figured out since i can't help you guys with coding, i can give a try to mirror
01:37 < jsaw> :)
01:38 < mnemoc> give rene a ssh+rsync account with 8G+ space
01:38 < mnemoc> rene@t2-project.org
01:38 < karasz> i will, but it will take some time...
01:38 < mnemoc> rene=rxr btw
01:39 < karasz> i must set up a machine for that
01:40 < karasz> other rhan ssh and rsync what do you need on the machine?
01:41 < karasz> i didn;t mirror anybody till now...
01:42 < mnemoc> just plain file http://   (apache is the tipical)
01:43 < jsaw> gotta go, 
01:43 < karasz> how much load should i expect?
01:43 < jsaw> cu guys
01:43 < mnemoc> but you could also use http://www.fefe.de/gatling/ or http://cr.yp.to/publicfile.html
01:43 < karasz> bye jsaw and thanks
01:43 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw 
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01:44 < mnemoc> karasz: i don't get much load down here :) rene have some statistics from his sites
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01:47 < karasz> i will set up a machine for you with tinysofa, ssh rsync
01:47 < karasz> but i will need some help to setup apache...:(
01:47 < mnemoc> gatling and publicfile are _very_ easy to setup
01:47 < karasz> ok
01:48 < karasz> i will try
01:48 < karasz> when it's done i wil send an email to rene
01:48 < karasz> is that ok?
01:49 < mnemoc> sure
01:50 < karasz> ok then cu guys
01:50 < mnemoc> cu
01:50  * karasz Gone to ./Scripts/Download -required
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01:54 < keinek_> hey mnemoc 
01:54 < keinek_> wassup?
01:54 < keinek_> :)
01:54 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek
02:04 < mnemoc> keinek: moving home, back in 30m
03:16 < CIA-9> amery * r9979 /trunk/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc: * updated postgresql (8.0.2 -> 8.0.3)
03:17 < sparc-kly> p2 Vostok, Antarctica at 6:00 AM VOST on July 05, 2005: [Temp: -89 F / -67 C] [Hum: 46%] [Wind: 13 mph from the NNW] [Vis: 31.0 mi] [UV: 0 out of 16] [Raw METAR: AVIATION] [Flight Rule: ()] [Wind Speed: 13 mph] [Wind Dir: 340  (NNW)]
03:17 < sparc-kly> :S
03:26 < mnemoc> 7~?
03:26 < mnemoc> ?
03:31 < sparc-kly> Temp: -89 F / -67 C :S
03:33 < sparc-kly> oh hell no!@#!@#! -89 is inconcievable
03:35 < mnemoc> Antarctica
03:35 < mnemoc> on winter....
03:35 < mnemoc> what would you expect?
04:24 < keinek> sparc-kly, are you there?
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06:54 < CIA-9> amery * r9980 /branches/2.1/package/base/hal/ (hal.desc hal.init postsysfiles.in): * merged 8923 from trunk: updated hal (0.5.1 -> 0.5.2), fixed init and given /bin/sh to hal user
07:01 < CIA-9> amery * r9981 /branches/2.1/package/base/ (libol/libol.desc syslog-ng/syslog-ng.desc): 
07:01 < CIA-9> * merged 9118 from trunk: updated libol (0.3.15 -> 0.3.16)
07:01 < CIA-9> * merged 9119 from trunk: updated syslog-ng (1.6.7 -> 1.6.8)
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07:11 < keinek> hi
07:13 < mnemoc> keinek: i had to code frogger and montesuma last year for m86k
07:14 < keinek> :)
07:15 < keinek> but m86k is only a part of neo geo
07:15 < keinek> neo geo was a espensive console.
07:15 < mnemoc> :)
07:16 < keinek> now t2-src is in /usr/src
07:16 < keinek> :)
07:17 < mnemoc> but don't foprget you have to prefer svn
07:18 < keinek> yes, but is only for my target.
07:18 < keinek> dont forget that my target is unofficial.
07:20 < keinek> if i lost my target i will cry a lot of time.
07:20 < keinek> now i know that my target is on cd
07:20 < keinek> :)
07:22 < mnemoc> :)
07:23 < mnemoc> you did once
07:26 < CIA-9> amery * r9982 /branches/2.1/package/x11/synaptics/synaptics.desc: * merged 8986 from trunk: updated synaptics (0.13.2 -> 0.14.2)
07:31 < CIA-9> amery * r9983 /branches/2.1/package/graphic/asymptote/ (asymptote.conf asymptote.desc): * merged 9001,9204 from trunk: updated asymptote (0.76 -> 0.78)
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09:56 < valentin> moin
09:56 < valentin> mnemoc: i thought you had to work on your project ?
09:58 < minto> moin
11:02 < minto> Yippee, generic-minimal x86-64 without optimizations finished completely.
11:03 < minto> in 64 bits that is.
11:03 < minto> The 32 bits version unfortunately stops at stage 4 linux24 :-(
11:04 < minto> I will try if crosscompiling the 32 bits version works.
11:24 < valentin> .ooooOOOO
11:25 < valentin> Kerstins doctor said our child will prob. come within the next days
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11:25 < minto> exciting. Valentin will be daddy in a few days.
11:26 < karasz> congratulations valentin
11:26 < karasz> hi everybidy
11:26 < minto> hi karasz
11:26 < karasz> hi minto :)
11:29 < valentin> the scheduled date is 07-27, but the doctor said he expects the child to come within this week .oO
11:57 < minto> valentin: Then you will have to feed the baby just like I did a few minutes ago.
11:58 < valentin> kerstin will try nursing first
11:59 < minto> Sure, but before you know it you will be holding the bottle.
12:00 < valentin> hehe
12:01 < valentin> how old is your son again ?
12:06 < minto> valentin: He is nearly 22 months old, but he is no longer on the bottle.
12:09 < minto> valentin do you know a few things about dietlibc?
12:09 < minto> Well it might not really be dietlibc related, it more the T2 build environment I guess.
12:12 < minto> rxr: are you around?
12:25 < valentin> minto: i do not know much things about diet. but ask your question.
12:25 < minto> Have a look at https://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/17
12:26 < minto> 64 bits compilation is fine like this, but 32 bits cross building fails.
12:26 < minto> I guess because $STRIP already contains $CROSS info. So I modified the sed commands to:
12:27 < minto> sed -i "s,(CROSS)strip,(STRIP),g" Makefile
12:28 < minto> Seems to be mostly fine but now I get:
12:28 < minto> bin-x86_64/diet i386-t2-linux-gnu-cc -pipe -nostdinc -Os -fomit-frame-pointer -falign-functions=1 -falign-jumps=1 -falign-loops=1 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -W -Wchar-subscripts -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wno-switch -Wno-unused -Wredundant-decls -o bin-i386/elftrunc contrib/elftrunc.c
12:28 < minto> /mnt/space/t2/2.1/src.dietlibc.1120558827.31619.0/dietlibc-0.28/bin-i386/start.o
12:29 < minto> (.text+0x12): In function `_start':
12:29 < minto> i386/start.S: undefined reference to `_dyn_start'
12:29 < minto> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
12:29 < minto> I don't get the bin-x86_64 part since I am x86 cross building.
12:29 < minto> get = understand
12:37 < minto> Started x68-64 2.1 rc2 reference build
12:37 < minto> == 12:33:55 =[0]=> Building base/00-dirtree [0000 2.1.0-rc2].
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13:00 < rxr> re
13:07 < rxr> and away
13:11 < valentin> minto: i think _dyn_start is a hack that rxr patched into dietlibc to work with c++ code
13:12 < minto> Maybe I have to wait for rxr to take a look. But I think he's busy so that might take a while .
13:12 < valentin> yes, we phoned half an hour ago. he said that he will be mostly offline today
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13:23 < azureus> hello
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13:54 < morfoh> hi
14:10 < CIA-9> chris * r9984 /trunk/package/python/python-ldap/python-ldap.desc: * updated python-ldap (2.0.7 -> 2.0.8)
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14:15 < CIA-9> chris * r9985 /trunk/package/develop/trac/trac.desc: * updated trac (0.8.3 -> 0.8.4)
14:46 < CIA-9> chris * r9986 /trunk/package/mail/exim/exim.desc: * updated exim (4.51 -> 4.52)
15:00 < CIA-9> chris * r9987 /trunk/package/network/net-snmp/net-snmp.desc: * updated net-snmp (5.2.1 -> 5.2.1.2)
15:03 < CIA-9> chris * r9988 /trunk/package/x11/idesk/idesk.desc: * updated idesk (0.7.2 -> 0.7.3)
15:54 < minto> :-( Boehoe, my 2.1 reference build on x86-64 stopped at stage 1 in linux26.
16:08 < morfoh> hi minto 
16:09 < morfoh> what's the prob ?
16:09 < minto> hi morfoh
16:09 < minto> hava a look at: https://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/19
16:10 < morfoh> ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/gcrypt/libgpg-error/
16:11 < morfoh> oops
16:12 < mnemoc_> *yawn*
16:12 < morfoh> minto: try to disable uml_utilities package .... to see if it solves the problem 
16:12 < morfoh> hi mnemoc_ 
16:13 < minto> hi mnemoc_
16:14 < minto> morfoh: I already tried #19 bottom line says:
16:14 < minto> Excluding both l7-filter and uml_utilities packages does not make any difference.
16:14 < morfoh> oh 
16:15 < minto> The strange thing is building a minimal generic 64 bits succeeded.
16:18 < mtr_> hi all
16:18 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr
16:18 < minto> hi mtr
16:18 < mtr> minto: ticket #19: os-interface.c is nvidia related
16:18 < mtr> hi minto 
16:18 < mnemoc_> minto: see if any package with pkg_linux26_*.conf is enabled now and not at minimal
16:18 < mnemoc_> nvidia :)
16:19 < mnemoc_> hi morfoh, minto, mtr 
16:19 < mtr> hi mnemoc_ 
16:20 < mnemoc_> minto: can you share a minimal 64bits 2.1.0-rc1 iso? or there is anything missing to merge to be able to do that on rc2?
16:21 < minto> mnemoc: I made a change to be able to build dietlibc properly.
16:22 < minto> https://trac.t2-project.org/ticket/17
16:23 < minto> Since crossbuilding for i32 lateron I changed the commands to:
16:23 < minto> sed -i "s,(CROSS),(STRIP),g" Makefile
16:29 < morfoh> hi mtr
16:29 < minto> :-( Creating iso failed:
16:29 < minto> # ./scripts/Create-ISO generic-minimal-64
16:29 < minto>   [16:23:59] Creating ISO-MD5 tools ...
16:29 < minto> make: Entering directory `/mnt/space/t2/2.1/src/isomd5sum'
16:29 < minto> gcc -c -O -fPIC -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O -Wall -Werror -o implantisomd5.o implantisomd5.c
16:29 < minto> implantisomd5.c:23:18: popt.h: No such file or directory
16:29 < mtr> hi morfoh 
16:32 < mnemoc_> popt??!
16:33 < mnemoc_> minto: can you commit that change on trunk?
16:33 < mnemoc_> minto: or discuss with rene if you think it's too violent
16:34 < minto> mnemoc: I am not sure if it is safe, and want to discuss with rene first.
16:35 < minto> Unfortunately rene is quite busy lately.
16:35 < mnemoc_> yes :\
16:36 < minto> Since my system is still a bit weird (64 bits kernel and 32 bits rootfs) this might cause some problems. But rene first wanted to be able to fully with a minimal on my system before moving rootfs to 64 bits as well.
16:37 < CIA-9> chris * r9989 /trunk/package/perl/mod_perl/mod_perl.desc: * updated mod_perl (2.0.0 -> 2.0.1)
16:41 < mnemoc_> i really want amd64 and sparc64 on rc2 :)
16:41 < minto> mnemoc_: me too
16:42 < minto> but maybe releasing 2.1 on x86 is higher prio that support for other archs.
16:43 < mnemoc_> sure
16:43 < minto> Like we mentioned before 2.1.1 could be amd75 and sparc64 support. 
16:43 < mnemoc_> 75 :)
16:43 < minto> amd64 of course
16:45 < mnemoc_> http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html <--- i'll commit those; do some extra basic merge-tests and start a new p4 reference while i review flists, and tag rc2 after that
16:45 < mnemoc_> but i can't today
16:46 < mnemoc_> i guess i'll move libbonobo*mm to attic
16:47 < valentin> hi mnemoc_ how is your project ?
16:48 < mnemoc_> what project?
16:48 < valentin> your project that needed to be finished ?
16:48 < mnemoc_> urgent report at office? bad! very bad
16:48 < valentin> oh
16:48 < valentin> :(
16:49 < karasz> got to go now
16:49 < karasz> cu guys
16:49 < minto> bye karasz
16:50  * karasz is still compiling on a PIII
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16:53 < mtr> mnemoc_: when you move libbonobo*mm to the attic, i would vote to do the same for ggrab and vls
16:53 < morfoh> mnemoc_: while building clamav it complains about "i686-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lgssapi" ... what do you think I have to rebuild ?
16:53 < mtr> from the videolan website: "Usage of VLC instead of VLS is advised"
16:53 < mtr> and ggrab is a _really_ outdated dbox2 tool
16:53 < mnemoc_> morfoh: heimdal should have injected it's -L
16:54 < morfoh> mnemoc_: hmmm ... perhaps sth. is broken on my machine 
16:54 < mnemoc_> morfoh: review cmd_wrapper.txt
16:55 < morfoh> mnemoc_: roger that ... thx ;)
16:55 < mnemoc_> mtr: :)
16:55 < mnemoc_> morfoh: it was a _suggestion_!
16:56 < morfoh> mnemoc_: yes ... but I think is my local machine because it build the last time on another machine 
16:57 < mnemoc_> mtr: that way we would only have 8 of 1583 broken packages :)
16:57 < CIA-9> chris * r9990 /trunk/package/network/radiusclient-ng/radiusclient-ng.desc: * updated radiusclient-ng (0.5.0 -> 0.5.1)
17:00 < mtr> mnemoc_: but we should not cleanup the other broken pkgs this way too ;)
17:01 < CIA-9> chris * r9991 /trunk/package/network/smbc/smbc.desc: * updated smbc (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
17:01 < mnemoc_> mtr: like moving balsa to attic? :)
17:02 < mtr> mnemoc_: :)
17:02 < mnemoc_> "Usage of Evolution instead of balsa is advised"
17:12 < CIA-9> chris * r9992 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.2.3 -> 2.2.4)
17:19 < CIA-9> chris * r9993 /trunk/package/archiver/lzo/lzo.desc: * updated lzo (2.00 -> 2.01)
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17:22 < keinek> hi
17:30 < CIA-9> mtr * r9994 /trunk/package/emulators/wine/ (alsa.patch powerpc.patch wine.conf wine.desc): 
17:30 < CIA-9> * updated wine (20050524 -> 20050628)
17:30 < CIA-9> * removed spare alsa and ppc patches
17:32 < CIA-9> mtr * r9995 /trunk/package/x11/nvidia/ (module-install-24.patch module-install-26.patch nvidia.desc): * updated nvidia (1.0-7174 -> 1.0-7664)
17:35 < CIA-9> mtr * r9996 /trunk/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * updated linux26 (2.6.12.1 -> 2.6.12.2)
17:37 < CIA-9> chris * r9997 /trunk/package/mail/bogofilter/bogofilter.desc: * updated bogofilter (0.94.7 -> 0.95.2)
17:38 < CIA-9> chris * r9998 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.86rc1 -> 0.86.1)
17:38 < valentin> wow r9998
17:38 < morfoh> hi valentin :)
17:39 < minto> 2 more for a celebration.
17:39 < mnemoc_> i think 9999 and 10000 must be _fixes_ and not updates
17:39 < minto> Then you'd better hurry
17:40 < mnemoc_> don't you want to fix balsa?
17:40 < mnemoc_> gscmxx is easy
17:41 < mnemoc_> or xarchon, which needs -fpermissive
17:41 < minto> There is no point in me updating or fixing anything before I can not do a descent reference build.
17:42 < CIA-9> chris * r9999 /trunk/package/network/ipsec-tools/ipsec-tools.desc: * updated ipsec-tools (0.5 -> 0.6rc1)
17:43 < valentin> looks like there is really r10k before birth of my daughter :)
17:44 < morfoh> valentin: at least she should hurry a bit to be there before ;)
17:44 < valentin> better nor
17:44 < valentin> s/r/t
17:45 < morfoh> mnemoc_: should we wait .... that you can commit a fix for getting r10k ?
17:46 < mnemoc_> nah
17:46 < CIA-9> amery * r10000 /branches/2.1/package/base/sudo/sudo.desc: * merged 9162,9829 from trunk: updated sudo (1.6.8p7 -> 1.6.8p9)
17:46 < mnemoc_> i don't have any fix
17:46 < mnemoc_> oh
17:46 < morfoh> hehe :D
17:46 < valentin> happy birthday mnemoc_ 
17:47 < morfoh> mnemoc_: the fame is yours :)
17:47 < valentin> i will take r11111 :)
17:47 < minto> happy birthday to all of us.
17:47 < morfoh> minto: :)
17:47 < mnemoc_> :D
17:47 < minto> valentin: you have to do a lot of updates then
17:47 < morfoh> valentin: ok ... we'll stop now and waiting till you got r11111 :)
17:47 < valentin> normaly it is rxr writing motivating team mails when crossing a kilo.
17:48 < valentin> morfoh: np. i write a script that does a single check-in for each modified byte :)
17:49 < CIA-9> amery * r10001 /branches/2.1/package/textproc/ (libxml/libxml.desc libxslt/libxslt.desc): 
17:49 < CIA-9> * merged 8995,9443 from trunk: updated libxml (2.6.17 -> 2.6.19)
17:49 < CIA-9> * merged 8994,9223 from trunk: updated libxslt (1.1.11 -> 1.1.14)
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18:21 < CIA-9> chris * r10002 /trunk/package/base/uml_utilities/ (config.hlp config.in pkg_linux_pre.conf): 
18:21 < CIA-9> * added a "UML Utilities" config option, where you can choose to include the Skas3 host patch. By default it's disabled!
18:21 < CIA-9> * changed the automatic kernel patching with the Skas3 patch if uml_utilities is selected.
18:26 < morfoh> ok ladies and gentleman ... I've to go now ... cu later
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18:28 < azureus> hi
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18:45 < minto> How do I continue a failed build in stage 5
18:45 < valentin> ./scripts/Built-Target <options>
18:46 < valentin> should continue
18:46 < minto> Sure, but I get:
18:46 < mnemoc> on stage 5 the build doesn't stop after an error
18:46 < minto> Searching for old liggering files ...
18:46 < minto> grep: build/generic-minimal-32-2.1.0-rc2-x86-generic/var/adm/packages/nasm: No such file or directory
18:46 < minto> grep: build/generic-minimal-32-2.1.0-rc2-x86-generic/var/adm/packages/syslinux: No such file or directory
18:46 < minto> ....
18:47 < minto> mnemoc: But the kernal failed and I think all packages depend on it and are skipped.
18:47 < mnemoc> what build/$foo/log/build_target.log say?
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18:48 < mnemoc> does var/adm/packages/*: No such file or directory come from aborts before build starts
18:48 < mnemoc> those*
18:53 < minto> after package linux24 failed none of the other packages where build. After starting a new build these packages will still not build.
18:54 < minto> mnemoc: Creating an iso of the stuff I have so far succeeded but there seems to be only 4kb and no iso file.
18:59 < mnemoc> uhm
19:00 < minto> This is my output:
19:00 < minto> # ./scripts/Create-ISO generic-minimal-64
19:00 < minto>   [16:57:47] Removing old files with same prefix ...
19:00 < minto> removed `iso/generic-minimal-64_index.txt'
19:00 < minto>   [16:57:47] Reading configs ...
19:00 < minto>      parsing for EVERY disk.
19:00 < minto>      parsing for DISK1 disk.
19:00 < minto>      parsing for SINGLE disk.
19:00 < minto>      parsing for SPLIT disk.
19:00 < minto>   [16:57:47] Creating ISO index ...
19:00 < minto> WARNING: Disk1 is not bootable - no boot options defined.
19:00 < minto>                 Shared:       4 kB in     1 files
19:00 < minto>                 Total:        4 kB in     1 files
19:00 < minto>   [16:57:47] Creating iso/generic-minimal-64_index.txt ...
19:00 < minto>   [16:57:47] Done. Have fun!
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19:01 < minto> Have to shut the box down again.
19:01 < mnemoc> :(
19:09 < minto> But I still have another box running.
19:11 < minto> mnemoc: Do you know who came up with lib64 directory?
19:12 < mnemoc> i haven't seen changes on that 'field'
19:13 < mnemoc> i have some sparc64 merges pending for commit which _may_ include something i didn't notice
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19:51 < morfoh> re hi
20:14 < morfoh> mnemoc: I'll merge the trac update I made today. it's an importand security fix
20:14 < mnemoc> ok
20:17 < CIA-9> chris * r10003 /branches/2.1/package/develop/trac/trac.desc: * merged 9985: updated trac (0.8.3 -> 0.8.4) which will fix a security issue
20:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: any concerns about merging bincimap update ?
20:22 < mnemoc> i splited bincimap to be able to do merges
20:23 < morfoh> mnemoc: so what version should be in 2.1 ?
20:23 < mnemoc> both
20:23 < mnemoc> :)
20:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: so should I merge 1.3.4 from trunk ?
20:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, what version do you recommend with qmail-ldap ?
20:24 < morfoh> ;)
20:26 < mnemoc> 1.3 is devel, but stable and has more features
20:26 < mnemoc> good features 1.2 lacks of
20:31 < morfoh> good to know ;)
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20:45 < azureus> hello
20:57 < rxr> re
20:57 < azureus> hi rxr
20:58 < rxr> hello azureus 
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21:11 < CIA-9> rene * r10004 /trunk/package/base/ (linux24/disable-broken.lst linux26/disable-broken.lst): * cleaned linux2* disable-broken.lst
21:12 < CIA-9> rene * r10005 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/kernel-disable.lst: * updated powerpc/kernel-disavle.lst (removed entries that build now)
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21:13 < CIA-9> rene * r10006 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-net.conf.m4: 
21:13 < CIA-9> * fixed T2 to support ISDN by enabling all reasonable ISDN options
21:13 < CIA-9>  in share/kernel-net.conf.m4
21:14 < CIA-9> rene * r10007 /trunk/scripts/functions: * prettyfied the uniq build id - I hope all like it ,-)
21:17 < valentin> hi rxr
21:17 < valentin> did you notice we are beyond r10k ?
21:20 < valentin> regarding r10007, does that mean we have to rename our build dirs ?
21:20 < morfoh> valentin: I think rxr noticed it, at least after his last commits ;)
21:20 < morfoh> btw, hi rxr valentin azureus 
21:21 < valentin> hey morfoh
21:21 < rxr> hi valentin 
21:22 < rxr> oh- cool ,-)
21:22 < rxr> who did 10k ?
21:22 < rxr> valentin: no - only the src. dirs ...
21:22 < morfoh> companero did it ;)
21:22 < valentin> rxr: yes, just took a look at the diff
21:23 < rxr> valentin: you got a fwd mail
21:23 < valentin> rxr: is it more readable than the old one ? :)
21:25 < rxr> I hope o
21:25 < rxr> so
21:25 < rxr> complain and propose if it is still too ugle
21:25 < rxr> y
21:28 < rxr> btw. the T2 kernel will not take even longer to build
21:28 < rxr> due to ISDN enabled -)
21:28 < rxr> ok - offline - saving the person's flat ISDN bill ...
21:28 < rxr> cu
21:28 < morfoh> ok cu rxr :)
21:29 < _Ragnar_> ;)
21:29 < morfoh> oh hi hiding Ragnar :)
21:29  * _Ragnar_ isn't hiding
21:39 < valentin> "Power corrupts. Powerpoint corrupts absolutely." - Hal Varian
21:41 < morfoh> while reading the Linux-Magazin today I was wondering about M$ new employee Mr. Daniel Robertson aka Gentoo founder 
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21:45 < morfoh> why the h*ll Emerge kdebase wants to install sun-jdk-150 ?
21:46 < valentin> i would recommend -deps=none :))
21:46 < sepp> why the h*ll 60 pkgs wants dpkg?
21:46 < morfoh> valentin: what is the diff between Emerge and Build-Pkg then ? ;)
21:46 < morfoh> oh hi hiding sepp :)
21:46 < valentin> afaik konqueror is in kdebase, maybe it has optional dependencies to java
21:46 < minto> morfoh: One of the future MS Windows releases will get this wonderful new core (aka linux) that makes it easy to use the vast amount of open source available. hehe
21:47 < valentin> morfoh: Emerge is Download and Build
21:47 < morfoh> and hi to a hiding minto too ;)
21:47 < minto> hail to all of you :-)
21:48  * minto is not, just listening :-)
21:48 < minto> ehum,not hiding
21:49  * morfoh knew that this minto is a spy :)
21:49 < minto> Police remember
21:49 < morfoh> I do :)
21:49 < minto> BTW, Not anymore. They threw me out 6 months ago.
21:50 < morfoh> minto: why ? no programmers needed anymore by bb ?
21:50 < minto> They ran out of money and contractors are the first to go.
21:51 < morfoh> minto: ah ... ok you were a contractor
21:51 < minto> Yepp, and still am. Got any (paid :-) ) work for me.
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21:59 -!- Topic for #t2:  T2 | 2.1.0-rc1 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
21:59 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 21 16:27:15 2005]
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22:08 < morfoh> hi keinek 
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22:13 < rxr_> re
22:13 -!- You're now known as rxr
22:14 < rxr> I just fixed the next thing in minised ,-)
22:14 < morfoh> hehe .)
22:15 < rxr>  http://svn.exactcode.de/minised/trunk
22:15 < rxr> I mailed ESR the patches - but no resonse yet
22:15 < rxr> if he does not respond soon I take it over ...
22:15 < rxr> mearly nothign in this minised worked ...
22:15 < rxr> my minised contains a set of test cases ...
22:15 < rxr> so I can easily track what breaks and when ...
22:16 < morfoh> rxr: perhaps ESR played too much with his dangerous toys ? ;)
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22:18 < nzg> rxr: nice article in the lungx-magazin
22:18 < rxr> ouhm - which one this time ?
22:18 < nzg> rxr: gcc4.0
22:18 < rxr> and in theory I would hgave
22:18 < rxr> have to finish two more today ...
22:18 < rxr> .oO
22:18 < rxr> nzg: ah - ic
22:18 < rxr> nzg: in the next one there will be a ICC from me ...
22:19 < rxr> but after it was layouted I got some more content to write :-(
22:19 < rxr> though that is usually the case  - when you are done you know what could have been better
22:19  * rxr away - taking down ippp0 to track the next minised bug ...
22:19 < rxr> guess I write 2. 
22:19 < morfoh> there is an ICC article in the last issue ... I guess it was from you
22:19 < nzg> quite right *g* 
22:19 < rxr> 0 on my minised fork quite soon ...
22:19 < rxr> 2.0: finally working ...
22:20 < rxr> morfoh: ah - it is aready in print? - yep that is from me ...
22:20 < rxr> cu when the minised bug is tracked ...
22:20 < morfoh> rxr: yes ... but I forgot the mag at work ... and I haven't looked at the ICC article yet ;)
22:20 < morfoh> cu
22:24 < rxr> re
22:25 < rxr> oh - stupid me - was already fixed in my last big ! (invert) fix ...
22:55 < rxr> re
22:56 < CIA-9> rene * r10008 /trunk/package/base/minised/fixes.patch: * fixed minised invert and simplified the whole select function
22:57 < CIA-9> rene * r10009 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/initrdinit: * simplified initrdinit sed invocation, now that minised invert is fixed
22:57 < CIA-9> rene * r10010 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/stone_mod_packages.sh: * removed ROCK in front of the Config ID in STONE
23:00 < CIA-9> rene * r10011 /trunk/package/office/multisync/ (multisync.conf multisync.desc): * updated multisync (0.82-1 -> 0.82-2005-07-01)
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23:06 < rxr> GCC 4.0.1 RC3
23:10 < rxr> can s.o. announce r10000 on t2?
23:10 < rxr> n8 all ,-)
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23:34 < azureus> http://forum.golem.de/read.php?4272,419258,419306#msg-419306 maybe someone could answer
23:40 < valentin> i'll do it
23:41 < azureus> ok
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23:44 < veki> hi
23:47 < azureus> hi veki
23:50 < azureus> I go sleep now
23:50 < azureus> bye
23:50 < veki> hi, how are you doing
23:50 < veki> OK?
23:50 < veki> sleep well :-)
23:51 < azureus> thank you :-)
23:51 < azureus> ciao
23:51 < azureus> mom
23:51 < azureus> was "How are you doing" to me?
23:52 < azureus> or to someone else
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23:56 < valentin> heyho veki
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23:56 < veki> hey :-)
23:56 < veki> how are you?
23:58 < veki> I was absent for a couple of days. How development goes?
23:58 < valentin> speeding up again
23:59 < morfoh> hey veki ...wb :)
23:59 < valentin> there were quite few patches teese days, but today we broke the 10000 barrier
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