--- Log opened Fri Jun 24 00:00:00 2005
00:13 < lewellyn> sleep well sepp 
00:31 < Postal> dietlibc is still broken on the amd64
00:32 < Postal> where do i find the error log again?
00:33 < Postal> found it
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00:43 < veki> I will be back in 5 minutes
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00:50 < veki> hi
00:50 < veki> I tried to compile Mnemosyne target and I got the error that hdparm package was not found on mirror
00:50 < veki> the same happenned when I tried to compile boot rescue target
00:51 < veki> Caan anyone check wheter hdparm-5.9.tar.bz2 is really on the mirror
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01:17 < mnemoc> if it's not on the mirror it is downloaded from original location
01:18 < mnemoc> veki: cat download/Mirror
01:20 < veki> I suppose that i should be therehttp://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2-source/2.1 2.1.0-beta4 
01:21 < veki> if it is downloaded why package build failed with explanation that no package was found
01:21 < mnemoc> beta4? uhm
01:21 < veki> yes beta4
01:25 < veki> should I try again?
01:26 < mnemoc> it should have been downloaded from original location anyway
01:27 < veki> yes, I suppose, but why it was not built
01:29 < mnemoc> uhm
01:29 < mnemoc> veki: try using rc1 or even svn checkout
01:30 < veki> how to do that?
01:30 < veki> is rc1 different t2?
01:31 < veki> it is interesting that hdparm was missing in rescue-boot target also
01:32 < veki> I am right now in Config for Mnemosyen and I am trying to find hdparm in the package list
01:34 < mnemoc> the file is to old or to new... i vote for old
01:34 < veki> yes.
01:34 < veki> how to do svn checkup
01:35 < mnemoc> cd somewhere; svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/2.1 t2-stable
01:36 < veki> ok
01:37 < veki> it says command not found
01:37 < veki> thus, svn is not installed by default
01:38 < mnemoc> uhm
01:39 < mnemoc> emerge subversion
01:39 < mnemoc> i though subversion was part of minimal
01:42 < veki> when i issued command ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg subversion it prompted me that pkgprefix: package apr is not present and aborted building subversion
01:43 < mnemoc> beta4 is to old :\
01:43 < mnemoc> emerge apr
01:44 < veki> so whihc one I should install
01:44 < mnemoc> rc1 or anything you build
01:45 < veki> it aborted building package apr  t2 uclinux uclibc failed
01:45 < veki> what is link for rc1
01:45 < mnemoc> ISO or tarball?
01:45 < veki> ISO
01:46 < mnemoc> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.0-rc1/   or bt i gave you same days ago
01:47 < mnemoc> but emerging apr with -deps=none should work....
01:47 < veki> I checked now.  I do have minimal 5.1 rc1
01:48 < mnemoc> you have where?
01:48 < veki> installed on my another machine
01:48 < veki> if you remmeber we used rsync together in order to be sure that we do have the same install
01:49 < veki> or I confused something?
01:49 < veki> hm
01:49 < veki> checking
01:50 < mnemoc> you can update that beta4 using Emerge-Pkg
01:50 < veki> beta4 is scripts file
01:50 < veki> but iso is rc1
01:50 < veki> how can I update ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg ??
01:51 < mnemoc> uhm... using subversion
01:51 < veki> which is not present and continuouslu breaks on apr even with nodeps option
01:52 < mnemoc> you must install apr
01:52 < mnemoc> emerge it
01:53 < veki> i Hve done ./sripts/Emerge-Pkg apr and it aborted even with nodeps option
01:53 < mnemoc> paste me on query your error please
01:58 < veki> =[eval_config_command:259 (last $?=0)> ./configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --libdir=/usr/lib --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --infodir=/usr/info --mandir=/usr/man --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --disable-debug --disable-nls --enable-libpam --enable-pam --build=i686-t2-linux-uclibc --host=i686-t2-linux-uclibc 
01:58 < veki> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `i686-t2-linux-uclibc': machine `i686-t2-linux' not recognized 
01:58 < veki> configure: error: /bin/sh build/config.sub i686-t2-linux-uclibc failed 
01:58 < veki> Due to previous errors, no 9-apr.log file! 
01:58 < veki> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.) 
01:58 < veki> --- BUILD ERROR --- 
01:58 < veki> ls: *.cron: No such file or directory 
01:58 < veki> ls: *.postinstall: No such file or directory 
01:58 < veki> Creating file list and doing final adaptions ...  
01:58 < veki> Processing static lib corrections ... 
01:58 < veki> Verifing the .la files ... 
01:58 < veki> Searching for orphaned files ... 
01:58 < veki> Found 7 files for this package. 
01:58 < veki> Found 1 orphaned files for this package. 
01:58 < veki> Clear (old) md5sums and cksums ... 
01:58 < veki> Calculating package dependencies ... 
01:58 < veki> Creating md5sum and cksum files ... done. 
01:58 < veki> Creating package description ... 
01:58 < veki> Making post-install adaptions.
01:59 < veki> ok?
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02:02 < mnemoc> on query :\
02:02 < mnemoc> why are you emerging for uclibc???
02:03 < mnemoc> the config you are using (if you set none, 'default' is used) is set to build against uclibc
02:04 < veki> i do not know , i just issued command ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg apr
02:04 < veki> and that is all
02:04 < veki> which config should I use?
02:05 < mnemoc> that's ok as far as your 'default' config is properly set
02:05 < mnemoc> in your case you have it set for uclibc
02:06 < veki> I did not do anything with config so what I should do
02:06 < veki> Emerge-Pkg apr what
02:07 < mnemoc> no, before that you should have done ./scripts/Config and set uclibc
02:07 < veki> ok, now
02:08 < mnemoc> you can: delete that default, change that default to something proper, or use a different config using -cfg option
02:09 < veki> where i set uclibc
02:09 < mnemoc> there are many way you could have done it
02:09 < mnemoc> selecting uclibc as default libc on expert
02:10 < veki> ok
02:10 < veki> so I should disable it as default?
02:10 < mnemoc> selecting a target which use uclibc
02:10 < mnemoc> no, default config is safe
02:10 < mnemoc> uhm
02:11 < mnemoc> the better thing to do when emerging is having as config the config that was used to build your machine 
02:11 < mnemoc> you can take it from /etc/ROCK-CONFIG
02:11 < mnemoc> and put those files on config/somthing/
02:11 < mnemoc> and use -cfg something when Emerge-Pkg or Config
02:12 < veki> hm I am now in Config and I do not see anything explicitly mentioing uclibc
02:12 < veki> is that oart with enable c-compiler multilib support
02:12 < mnemoc> no
02:14 < veki> I am in expert and experimental options and I cannot see anything explicitly mentioning uclibc
02:14 < mnemoc> Lib C selection
02:15 < veki> selecting C library?
02:15 < veki> iti is glibc
02:15 < mnemoc> uhm
02:16 < veki> it i snot uclibc and not dietlinc
02:16 < mnemoc> grep libc config/default/packages
02:17 < veki> hm
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02:18 < veki> there are glibc, uclibc, dietlibc
02:18 < veki> libcdaudio
02:18 < veki> etc..
02:20 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
02:20 < _Ragnar_> how can I use my very own special kernel config for my build?
02:22 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: config/$config/linux.cfg
02:22 < _Ragnar_> thanks :)
02:23 < _Ragnar_> normal linux .config there?
02:23 < _Ragnar_> or special format?
02:23 < mnemoc> linux.cfg is an overlay to the generated .config
02:23 < mnemoc> let me check something
02:23 < _Ragnar_> ok
02:24 < mnemoc> kernel.conf does the same
02:24 < mnemoc> yes, it's an overlay
02:24 < mnemoc> it changes options with your values
02:24 < mnemoc> normal kernel .config format
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02:26 < veki> It is  OK now, apr was built :-)
02:27 < veki> now I have to emerge apr-util
02:29 < _Ragnar_> so when I copy a complete kernel .config there it'll overwrite all?
02:30 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: every entry available on your linux.cfg, which may be 'all'
02:30 < _Ragnar_> :) ok
02:30 < _Ragnar_> I'll try that
02:34 < veki> mnemoc:  I built apr-utils also and I am building subversion
02:34 < mnemoc> veki: good
02:36 < veki> mnemoc:  OK, I will after subversion is built do svn checkup and it should upgrade the scripts?
02:36 < mnemoc> veki: it wont update, it will give you another copy
02:37 < mnemoc> veki: but this time, updateable
02:38 < veki> mnemoc: so, should i delete directory with existing installation of scripts?
02:38 < mnemoc> you can
02:39 < mnemoc> you can recicle config and download dirs
02:39 < veki> mnemoc: so, directory t2...beta4 should be deleted after svn checking  the new one.  Then, i will extract new one and again do ./scripts/Config OK?
02:40 < _Ragnar_> hmmm does cracklib include a default dictionary?
02:42 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: no idea
02:42 < mnemoc> veki: yes, but you can recicle your config and download dirs
02:43 < veki> mnemoc: recycled? how?
02:43 < veki> by running Config or by anyother command
02:46 < mnemoc> veki: mv
02:46 < veki> mnemoc: Ok, I did not know what the term recycle means in this case
02:47 < mnemoc> :)
02:47 < mnemoc> reuse
02:47 < veki> mnemoc: :-)
02:50 < veki> mnemoc:subversion is compiling normally it seems to me.  But, it is 3AM here.  I have to go to sleep since I have to work tomorrow whole day.
02:51 < mnemoc> cu tomorrow veki 
02:51 < veki> mnemoc: svn was built OK
02:53 < mnemoc> :)
02:53 < veki> mnemoc: I issued svn co command.  It goes well it seem sto me
02:58 < _Ragnar_> hmmm this is lacking madwifi
02:59 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: can I get the linux26 package to install the kernel sources, too, not just the binaries?
03:01 < mnemoc> add madwifi as package using postlinux.conf
03:01 < mnemoc> you wont ever get a linux source from t2 :) it was considered harmful
03:01 < mnemoc> due to the risk of module inconsistency
03:02 < _Ragnar_> O_O
03:02 < _Ragnar_> how do I add it? O_O
03:03 < mnemoc> see packages with postlinux.conf file
03:03 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
03:03 < mnemoc> postlinux.conf is a $pkg.conf replacement 
03:04 < mnemoc> to build packages inside linux{24,26} context
03:04 < mnemoc> using pkg_linux{24,26}_{pre,post}.conf you add our package to 'active extenstions' list
03:05 < mnemoc> on $pkg.conf you build userspace and docs
03:05 < mnemoc> on postlinux.conf you build just the modules
03:05 < _Ragnar_> O_O ohh okay
03:05 < _Ragnar_> I think I got it
03:07 < _Ragnar_> dunno if I can get that to work tho :D
03:07 < _Ragnar_> but I'll try
03:08 < mnemoc> there are many kernel extensions packages
03:10 < _Ragnar_> pkg_linux26_post.conf <-- do I need that?
03:10 < mnemoc> to tell linux26 you will extend it
03:11 < _Ragnar_> postlinux.conf isn't enough then?
03:11 < mnemoc> no
03:11 < _Ragnar_> ok
03:11 < _Ragnar_> O_O
03:25 < veki> I have to sleep now it is 3.25 AM here
03:25 < veki> cu
03:25 < veki> :-)
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03:40 < CIA-9> amery * r9830 /trunk/package/network/ (iproute2/rocknet_iproute2.sh iptables/rocknet_iptables.sh): * changed rocknet accept/drop/conduit to apply to the previously set ip, not to every ip set to the interface as before.
03:41 < mnemoc> rxr, valentin: 9830 is a behavioral change on rocknet
04:33 < lewellyn> mnemoc: you're being quite useful today. :)
04:33  * lewellyn wishes he could pull his weight more, rather than idling
04:34 < mnemoc> lewellyn: me? why?
04:35 < lewellyn> my scrollback is filled with you being helpful
04:35 < lewellyn> (and fewer commits than usual, for some reason :)
04:35 < mnemoc> :)
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06:35 < mnemoc> sepp: i relocated the tracker, http://t2-torrent.geeks.cl/
06:35 < mnemoc> sepp: can you join? :)
06:38 < sepp> yes
06:39 < mnemoc> sepp: cool :)
06:48 < mnemoc> rxr: http://t2-torrent.geeks.cl/ is announceable :)
07:48 < mnemoc> gn8 *
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08:33 < mipe> hmm, from hooks priority, higher number is executed last?
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11:56 < minto> hi all
11:59 < minto> nobody here :( then me leave too.
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12:10 < veki> hi
12:10 < veki> I am here also :-)
12:10 < veki> i am compiling Mnemosyne and doing something else on another computer
12:35 < jsaw> re
12:48 < veki> hi
12:48 < jsaw> hi veki 
12:48 < veki> hi, how are you doing
12:49 < jsaw> fine, trying to activate my brain... and you?
12:49 < veki> Mine worked untill 3.25AM and slept until 8AM and it i sworking all the time.  It is somehow overclocked
12:50 < veki> i  am compiling target and writing a project proposal proposing some targets to be deployed
12:50 < veki> mnemoc helped me a lot last night
12:50 < jsaw> what kind of cooling system are you using?
12:50 < veki> computers are Siemns and IBM and they do have so-called passive cooling
12:50 < jsaw> is it in-/transpiration based?
12:51 < jsaw> no, I mean your brain
12:51 < veki> My brain does not have cooling system, I look like steam roller :-)
12:51 < jsaw> :)
12:52 < jsaw> gotta switch of air-conditioning here, getting a stiff neck...
12:52 < veki> yes
12:52 < veki> I do not have air-conditioning.  It makes me sometimes sleepy, which is not good
12:52 < jsaw> but then others will complain... so switching desk, bias
12:53 < veki> But, I am lucky that space where I work is not too much warm.  Ah, yes , people complain so I suggest that everyone shoould have air-conditioned behind shoulders and stiff neck will be common phenome untill they willchange their minds
12:55 < jsaw> re
12:55 < veki> but, i am somehow accustomed to behave like steam puffing tea pot
12:55 < jsaw> well, I'm in the library now, it's warm which actually meets my reptile genes way better ;)
12:55 < veki> :-)
12:55 < veki> hehe
12:56 < veki> which country you are from
12:56 < jsaw> de
12:56 < jsaw> (Heidelberg)
12:56 < veki> ah, ok which part of germany
12:56 < veki> Heidelberg, that i snice
12:56 < veki> I have some friends in heidelberg who are
12:56 < veki> involved in trade unions, arts and culture etc
12:57 < jsaw> oh
12:57 < veki> There was an old song saying:  In heidelberg I lost my heart....
12:57 < jsaw> so where are you from
12:57 < veki> Belgrade, Serbia
12:57 < jsaw> did you lost it here?
12:58 < jsaw> Belgrade is also hot right now I assume
12:58 < jsaw> we're somewhere between 30-35 deg C
12:58 < veki> No, i have not lost it though I know some very nice people there
12:58 < veki> It is hot here, I am somehow in a good place
12:59 < veki> we say that it i sso hot that you hallucinate camels :-)
12:59 < jsaw> How's infrastructure in Serbia coming along?
12:59 < jsaw> hehe
12:59 < veki> you mean internet infrastructure?
12:59 < jsaw> eg.
12:59 < veki> there are more and more cable and ADSL users and it is better and better
13:00 < veki> wireless is becoming very popular
13:00 < jsaw> easier to install...
13:00 < veki> still, there some parts of town or rgions in the country where telephone lines are bad
13:00 < veki> yes, Linux without Internet is aarrrghhhh
13:00 < veki> :-)
13:01 < jsaw> as long as it's growing...
13:01 < jsaw> hehe
13:01 < jsaw> I moved and have currently no DSL... waiting for a new one... *grrr*
13:02 < veki> ah yes, it is sometimes nightmare evrywhere in teh world
13:03 < jsaw> well, I wouldn't say nightmare. If I'd be thrown out of the institute (which is sitting on the DFN backbone), that would be a nightmare
13:03 < veki> aaaarrrghhhh
13:03 < veki> which institute you are working for
13:04 < jsaw> Max-Planck-Institute for medical Research
13:04 < jsaw> (but I'm a physicist)
13:04 < veki> mmmmmmm this is interesting
13:05 < veki> a good friend of mine Mojmir krizan worked in max planck institute, he worked with physics of membranes etc... he is PhD I think in phhysics and political sciences also
13:07 < jsaw> oh Goettingen, ic
13:07 < veki> his father ws excellent in human anatomy. I think that even a small hole in human skull is named after him
13:07 < jsaw> pretty active guy
13:09 < jsaw> shows up even in hagalil
13:09 < veki> so you heard of him
13:10 < jsaw> no, I just googled to see which MPI he was...
13:11 < veki> ah, yes, he is interesting man
13:11 < veki> I think that he is also active in Tubingen
13:13 < veki> but, free software is better, my neighbour said.  At least you can delete it :-)))
13:13 < jsaw> rofl
13:14 < sepp> re
13:14 < sepp> hi jsaw, veki 
13:14 < veki> hi
13:15 < veki> what is rofl
13:15 < jsaw> 13:21 < veki> but, free software is better [snip]
13:15 < jsaw> hi sepp 
13:15 < veki> ah, yes
13:15 < jsaw> what are you doing, veki?
13:16 < jsaw> (working)
13:16 < sepp> damn concrete dessert, i feel like a cactus
13:16 < veki> I am president of theboard of the Linux centre here, composer of music for theatre and contemporary dance, cooperating with Electronic Music Foundation etc.
13:17 < veki> sepp: :-)
13:18 < jsaw> somehow everybody seems to do some kind of art besides programming...
13:19 < jsaw> cig break, bbl
13:21 < veki> yes, it i spossible.  I am not programmer myself, although I would like to be good in Bash scripting.  At least I understand logic and some pople say:  he knows everything, but I do not think so that I am so good
13:23 < veki> I have authored some theoretical texts on contemporary arts,  Springer Verlag and some others published my work
13:26 < veki> i usually do not speak about myself.  Despite of all my public presence I am rather shy and modest person
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13:38 < jsaw> ? xen-tools fails becaus it can't find zlib ... ?
13:45 < sepp> i compiled it some (~3) days ago without error
13:47 < veki> i have to go now
13:47 < veki> bye
13:47 < jsaw> cu
13:47 < veki> cu
13:47 < sepp> cu
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13:47 < jsaw> I guess my config is screwed... if bootdisk does not build zlib, there's something wrong...
13:50 < jsaw> going bg mode, cu later
13:50 < sepp> cu
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13:52 < jsaw> sepp: any news on the logo arts front?
13:53 < sepp> i am bit confused what it should be, the abstract one had no storry i was told, nad the ideas with bg have too much 
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14:06 < azureus> helol
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14:40 < azu1> hi
14:45 < azu1> Is anyone here?
14:50 < sepp> yes
14:53 < azu1> hi sepp
14:53 < sepp> hi
14:58 < azu1> Is there anything new?
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15:00 < sepp> what should be new?
15:00 < azu1> mybe something about the amd version
15:01 < sepp> ahh, no
15:02 < azu1> :-(
15:04 < sepp> you could build your own
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15:09 < kleper> hi
15:12 < kleper> i have a question about the target "router" of t2, what pakages this inlcude?
15:13 < azu1> I cant programm
15:13 < kleper>  /whois azu1 
15:13 < kleper> sorry :D
15:15 < jsaw> kleper: look into target/router/pkgsel.sed
15:15 < kleper> ok
15:17 < jsaw> kleper: target/router/build.sh you'll find the packages that are actually copied into the router ramdisk
15:26 < kleper> thanks jsaw i am bulding now :)
15:28 < jsaw> kleper: if you have more questions, wait for miguelb aka madtux to show up, or send email to the list :)
15:28 < kleper> ok
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17:51 < mnemoc> moin
17:52 < veki> hi
17:52 < mnemoc> hi veki 
17:52 < veki> Compilation o fmnemosyne goes well so far
17:52 < veki> :-)
17:52 < mnemoc> :)
17:54 < veki> I will report you when it will be finished
17:54 < mnemoc> i'll be here
17:57 < valentin> moin mnemoc 
18:07 < valentin> i'll take a nap now, cu
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18:25 < mnemoc> :)
18:25 < mnemoc> cu valentin 
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18:37 < azureus> re
18:40 < mnemoc> hi azureus 
18:41 < mnemoc> azureus: tracker was moved to http://t2-torrent.geeks.cl if you want to join
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18:52 < azureus> ok I will have a look
18:55 < mnemoc> better bw, lower latency and port 80
18:57 < azureus> bw?
18:59 < mnemoc> bandwidth
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19:37 < rxr_> hi  ,-)
19:37 -!- You're now known as rxr
19:38 < mnemoc> moin rxr
19:41 < _Ragnar_> hey rene;)
19:44 < _Ragnar_> how's gcc 4.0 going btw? anyone did some test runs with it yet?
19:44 < sparc-kly> hi all 
19:47 < mnemoc> hi sparc-kly 
19:49 < rxr> _Ragnar_: 4.0.0 is a bit buggy - you need at least two patches - best the 4.0.1-rc2 and a patchset or CVS snapshot of glibc ... :-(
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19:50 < _Ragnar_> ah ok
19:50 < mnemoc> rxr: http://torrent.t2-project.org/ is pending for your approval
19:51 < mnemoc> rxr: pointing to http://t2-torrent.geeks.cl/
19:55 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: btw that do I do to prevent the real package from building when a package has only kernel modules and no user tools?
19:59 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: you can't prevent you, but you can make it do nothing
20:00 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: custmain=true should be enough
20:02 < _Ragnar_> without defining any custmain?
20:02 < mnemoc> you define one
20:02 < mnemoc> one which does nothing and return happy
20:05 < _Ragnar_> ah ok :)
20:08 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
20:08 < _Ragnar_> why has my kernel config disappeared?
20:10 < mnemoc> you need to enable it's support on Config
20:10 < mnemoc> same happen with pkgsel
20:10 < mnemoc> if it's not enabled, it's deleted
20:10 < _Ragnar_> O_O ouch
20:10 < _Ragnar_> yes ... I'd consider that a bug, too;p
20:10 < _Ragnar_> (the deleting of the file)
20:11 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: it's the 'old-style' policy
20:11 < _Ragnar_> ;p
20:15 < mnemoc> but i agree with you, we have to remove those repressive actions from the scripts
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21:28 < valentin> re
21:29 < mnemoc> re valentin 
21:29 < mnemoc> valentin: if you have a minute, take a look into 9830
21:30 < valentin> _Ragnar_, mnemoc : it deleted a custom kernel config outside the src dir ?
21:30 < valentin> mnemoc: ok
21:31 < _Ragnar_> yes
21:31 < mnemoc> Config deletes pkgsel and linux.cfg from config/$config _if_ it's support is disabled
21:33 < valentin> that is evil
21:35 < valentin> mnemoc: hm, how can i filter on a non masqueerading gateway, then ?
21:35 < mnemoc> old king wanted that way
21:36 < mnemoc> valentin: uhm?
21:36 < valentin> old king whanted what ? deleting files ?
21:36 < mnemoc> deleting 'undesired' files
21:36 < valentin> mnemoc: afaiuthc you only set rules for destination address == ip
21:37 < mnemoc> those rules are applied on 'input' anyway
21:38 < mnemoc> not on forward
21:38 < valentin> ah, you are right
21:38 < valentin> so you want a two-ip interface on one physical device and filter the first one only ?
21:38 < mnemoc> ip ...
21:38 < mnemoc> allow ...
21:38 < mnemoc> drop all
21:38 < mnemoc> ip ....
21:38 < mnemoc> allow ...
21:39 < mnemoc> drop all
21:39 < mnemoc> ip ...
21:39 < mnemoc> drop all
21:39 < _Ragnar_> *grrrr*
21:39 < _Ragnar_> how can I make it NOT build some modules
21:40 < mnemoc> accept/drop/reject/conduit _before_ the first 'ip' are taken -i dependent only
21:40 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: there is a blacklist
21:40 < mnemoc> or you can map them to 'N' 
21:40 < mnemoc> instead of '# comenting"
21:40 < valentin> mnemoc: yes, but i do not know if i like it to be honnest. how about appending ip as an optional parameter ?
21:41 < mnemoc> bloat in my own
21:41 < mnemoc> is like repeating interface
21:42 < sepp> hello
21:43 < mnemoc> people with multiple ip-s tend to prefer separated rules
21:43 < mnemoc> people with single ip-s will never notice it
21:43 < mnemoc> hi sepp 
21:43 < sepp> hi mnemoc 
21:44 < mnemoc> valentin: what problem do you see?
21:44 < sepp> is it ok if i disable smp in the embedded target kernel, it wont work on arm...
21:45 < mnemoc> ¿?
21:45 < sepp> "#error SMP not supported on pre-ARMv6 CPUs"
21:46 < sepp> and i dont know any embedded device with smp
21:46 < mnemoc> neither do i.... but you could disable it on architecture/
21:46 < mnemoc> instead than on target
21:46 < sepp> hmm yes
21:49 < mnemoc> valentin: one thing could be good is to apply ip-less rules after those with ip defined, so adding ip-less on top with be considered after all ip-dependent rules
21:51 < valentin> mnemoc: the think i do not like is the intermixing of different sections in the input. but that is ok, i can live with it. and netconf can live with that, too because atm only one ip / interface allowed
21:51 < valentin> the thing even
21:52 < mnemoc> :)
21:56 < _Ragnar_> bbl, heading for lunch
21:58 < mnemoc> valentin: what about   addcode up 1 5   if $ip, and addcode up 1 6 if not?
21:59 < mnemoc> that would allow people to add _before_ ip the ip-independent rules without affecting ip-dependent ones
21:59 < mnemoc> like 'drop all' or 'accept tcp 80' on every IP
21:59 < valentin> yes, that would be nice
22:00 < mnemoc> that would need to be added to rocknet documentation.... there is rocknet documentation?
22:07 < mnemoc> valentin: i have another weird desire....
22:07 < mnemoc> valentin: masquerade
22:08 < mnemoc> valentin: what interface-s will we masquerade, and which ip will it use
22:10 < mnemoc> i think we should use $ip to masquerade, and valid interfaces as arguments. if no arguments, all interfaces get masqueraded. else, given interfaces get masqueraded and the other _DROPPED_
22:13 < valentin> i didn't know one could use masquerade outside interface sections
22:13 < mnemoc> input interface
22:13 < mnemoc> let me review
22:13 < valentin> ok
22:14 < sepp> hi valentin 
22:14 < mnemoc> do you know what linux does if it has two default routes?
22:15 < valentin> with same metric ?
22:16 < valentin> use the first one imo
22:16 < CIA-9> sebastian * r9832 /trunk/architecture/arm/kernel26-disable.lst: * disabled SMP support for arm
22:17 < mnemoc> valentin: on gw we use 'ip r add'.... i guess we should use 'ip r append'
22:18 < valentin> mnemoc: you are asking stuff - in my setups i never had two default routes at once, so i cannot tell. add is prepend ?
22:19 < mnemoc> add only works if there is no previous entry
22:19 < mnemoc> append works on both cases
22:25 < mnemoc> i have a machine here with three links and 5,5,1 public ip addresses
22:27 < valentin> :O
22:27 < valentin> what do you need such a config for ?
22:28 < mnemoc> they are changing ISP, they have the old, the new and the backup :p
22:28 < mnemoc> and i have to make the migration 100% transparent... using rocknet! :p
22:32 < CIA-9> amery * r9833 /trunk/package/network/iproute2/rocknet_iproute2.sh: * changed rocknet/gw to 'append' routes instead of 'add', because the later fail on the second add, and the first works on both cases
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23:10 < CIA-9> amery * r9834 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * changed rocknet to reset $ip on every interface
23:11 < _Ragnar_> re
23:11 < azu1> hi ragner
23:11 < CIA-9> amery * r9835 /trunk/package/network/iptables/rocknet_iptables.sh: * changed rocknet/masquerade to use SNAT via $ip, if it's set. and MASQUERADE if it's not set.
23:11 < mnemoc> wb wagner
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23:13 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc: how exactly does it =N work?
23:14 < _Ragnar_> since it still seems to build all sound modules for example
23:15 < mnemoc> =N?
23:15 < _Ragnar_> disabling modules with linux.cfg
23:16 < mnemoc> .oO
23:17 < mnemoc> i don't remember :\
23:18 < mnemoc> package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in:62 .... 
23:19 < mnemoc> but... package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in:85
23:19 < mnemoc> .oO
23:20 < mnemoc> pfff package/base/linux24/linux-conf.in:217
23:21 < mnemoc> this is a mess
23:21 < mnemoc> kernel.conf for merging and linux.cfg for replacing.... as far i a can see
23:24 < _Ragnar_> seems the replacing doesn't work
23:26 < _Ragnar_> ===[auto_config:92 (last $?=0)> sed 's,\(CONFIG_.*\)=n,# \1 is not set,' /TOOLCHAIN/config/router/linux.cfg
23:26 < _Ragnar_> hmmm no wonder
23:27 < mnemoc> uhm
23:27 < mnemoc> :85 vs. :217  is senseless
23:31 < _Ragnar_> I'm talking linux26 here btw
23:32 < sepp> anyone made a arm traget lately ?
23:34 < _Ragnar_> wish I knew what this is doing ... :p
23:35 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: both use linux24/linux-conf.in
23:36 < mnemoc> $family-conf.in  for common stuff of every package of $family
23:37 < _Ragnar_> ah ok
23:37 < _Ragnar_> yea I see that now
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23:47 < _Ragnar_> so confusing;p
23:49 < _Ragnar_> duh
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