--- Log opened Sat May 14 00:00:49 2005 00:06 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:06 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 00:31 -!- ojh [~omer@63-224-201-179.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 00:33 < mnemoc> hi ojh 00:33 < ojh> Hi :) 00:35 < ojh> I was reading the site for the FUSE project yesterday, it has a lot of very cool file system add-ons that can be used with it. 00:36 < mnemoc> yep, fuse was a great invention 00:39 < _Ragnar__> :) 00:40 < _Ragnar__> plugin to setup netfilter and routing through a fs-like interface would be kewl:) 00:47 -!- mtr [~michael@p54AFB4ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 00:53 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:53 < ojh> _Ragnar__: What do you have in mind? Implement ACL's as some sort of file hierarchy? 00:54 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 00:55 < CIA-10> amery * r8864 /branches/2.1/package/zope/ (55 files in 26 dirs): 00:55 < CIA-10> * renamed zope.conf.in to our standard zope-conf.in 00:55 < CIA-10> * cleaned zope-conf.in usage, most .conf are not needed. 00:55 -!- mtr_ [~michael@p54AFA2F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 00:55 < _Ragnar__> echo "192.168.1.1 metric 1" > /netfs/routes/0.0.0.0/0 00:56 < _Ragnar__> cat /netfs/routes/target/10.10.10.10 00:57 < _Ragnar__> 192.168.1.1 00:57 < _Ragnar__> ;) 00:59 < ojh> _Ragnar__: Interesting. 01:00 < _Ragnar__> *g* 01:02 < valentin> i will go to bed now - cu and gn8 01:02 < mnemoc> gn8 valentin 01:03 < valentin> happy hacking mnemoc :) 01:04 < mnemoc> :) 01:15 -!- sparc-kly [mubex@66-50-33-174.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:36 -!- Veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has joined #t2 01:37 < CIA-10> amery * r8865 /trunk/package/zope/ (55 files in 26 dirs): * merged 8864 from 2.1: renamed zope.conf.in to zope-conf.in and cleaned it's usage. 01:41 < CIA-10> amery * r8866 /branches/2.1/package/base/linux26/linux26.desc: * merged 8850 from trunk: updated linux26 (2.6.11.8 -> 2.6.11.9) 01:44 < CIA-10> amery * r8867 /branches/2.1/package/x86/memtest86/memtest86.desc: * merged 8792 from trunk: updated memtest86 (1.51 -> 1.55) 01:46 < CIA-10> amery * r8868 /branches/2.1/package/x86/lilo/lilo.desc: * merged 8791 from trunk: updated lilo (22.6.1 -> 22.7) 02:00 -!- Veki [~chatzilla@217.24.19.40] has left #t2 [] 02:02 < CIA-10> amery * r8869 /trunk/package/zope/linguaplone/ (linguaplone.conf linguaplone.desc): * adapted linguaplone to our new zope-conf.in 02:19 -!- keinek_ [~Keinek@201.254.12.48] has joined #t2 02:37 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.12.62] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:20 -!- ojh [~omer@63-224-201-179.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 03:59 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek 04:21 -!- sparc-kly [mubex@66-50-33-174.prtc.net] has joined #t2 05:40 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.12.48] has quit ["Abandonando"] 06:05 < CIA-10> amery * r8870 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/ (. java-conf.in java-dirtree.conf java-dirtree.desc): * added java-dirtree package just to own opt/java dirs, for now 06:13 < CIA-10> amery * r8871 /branches/2.1/package/base/sysfiles/rocknet.sh: * merged 8795 from trunk: fixed rocknet to display an error message if no config file exists 06:18 < CIA-10> amery * r8872 /branches/2.1/package/base/sysfiles/system.init: * merged 8719,8731 from trunk: made sure /dev/{pts,shm} are created before mounting them 06:27 < CIA-10> amery * r8873 /branches/2.1/package/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 06:27 < CIA-10> * merged 8812 from trunk: added hal init script, hal user and group and added them to REGISTER 06:27 < CIA-10> * merged 8813 from trunk: added dbus init script 06:49 < CIA-10> amery * r8874 /branches/2.1/ (94 files in 83 dirs): * merged 8815 from trunk: added .init to the known extensions of Create-CopyPatch and injected the updated copyright note into the .init files. 06:58 < mnemoc> rxr: is gzip officialy broken on trunk? i get crt.o not found on 1-gzip 06:59 < mnemoc> rxr: is this due to --{enable,disable}-shared change on gcc ? 07:05 < CIA-10> amery * r8875 /branches/2.1/misc/share/REGISTER: * added HAL registrations missinging in commit 8873 08:30 < rxr> re 08:30 < rxr> mnemoc: no idea - need to start a new build 08:32 < sepp> moin :) 08:32 < rxr> moin 08:35 < rxr> libDSP 5.0.2 (stable) 08:35 < rxr> ^- we should package that "for fun"W 08:36 < rxr> Subversion 1.2.0-rc4 08:36 < rxr> cdrdao & GCDMaster 1.2.0 08:52 < sepp> has cdrecord a progress bar? looks like frozen 09:00 < sepp> i reboot to test the live cd 09:00 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.205.189.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["leaving"] 09:41 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.209.51.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 09:42 < sepp> live cd works with one of 3 monitors :) 09:45 < sepp> with the sony tft connected it starts x with 85Hz instead of 75 09:47 < sepp> libgtk-x11 is missing - i wanted to start gimp 09:57 < sepp> with 2 monitors connected the tft turns out (out of sync warning) and the crt displays a purple/green blinking bg 10:42 < rxr> re 10:43 < rxr> hm 10:43 < rxr> sepp: can you try if your LCD works, if you remove this lines from /tmp/xorg.conf 10:43 < rxr> HorizSync 24.0 - 130.0 10:43 < rxr> VertRefresh 50-80 10:44 < rxr> and restart X? 10:45 < sepp> what is the root pass? 10:49 < rxr> no root login by default 10:49 < rxr> login as live 10:49 < rxr> no passwd by default 10:49 < rxr> sudo bash --login 10:49 < rxr> or set a root passwd if you feel to 10:49 < sepp> ahh ok i will test it 10:49 < sepp> brb 10:50 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.209.51.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["leaving"] 10:59 < rxr> re 10:59 < rxr> so - finally - software RAID mounted on the udev only test system ,-) 11:02 < rxr> so - sound working ,-) 11:05 < valentin> moin 11:08 < rxr> moin 11:08 < rxr> valentin: my athlon is now on u/dev - booted the a trunk mkinitrd cretae early userspace ,-) 11:08 < valentin> oh 11:16 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.204.76.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 11:17 < sepp> uhm only way to start x on this sony tft is to change the values in xorg.conf 11:17 < rxr> is remove enough? 11:17 < sepp> if i comment horiz/vert out it starts at 640x480 11:18 < sepp> only mode that x found 11:18 < sepp> all other xorg tests returned out of sync 11:19 < rxr> hm - you have nothin in the log regarding DDC ? 11:20 < rxr> monitor supports this and that moeds ? 11:20 < rxr> modes even ? 11:21 < sepp> i get lots of Not using default mode ... (hsync out of range) 11:22 < sepp> and at the end off all tests it set the only mode to "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz 11:24 < rxr> hm 11:25 < sepp> with the nvidia driver its even worse 11:27 < rxr> so your panel is not returning any DCC data I guess ... ? 11:27 < sepp> it returns wrong values 11:32 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:32 < rxr> http://software.newsforge.com/artic 11:32 < rxr> sepp: okok ... 11:32 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 11:32 < rxr> sepp: what options would you need to pass via the boot loader? 11:32 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:32 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 11:32 < rxr> like modes="1024x768@60" or so ? 11:32 < sepp> yes 11:32 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:32 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 11:33 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:33 < sepp> lol 11:33 -!- CIA-10 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error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 12:40 < rxr> hehe - yes, that will be done soon ... 12:40 < rxr> also known ,-) 12:41 < live> ok 12:41 < live> there is no root password, right? 12:41 < rxr> X comes up nicely and such ? 12:41 < rxr> live: nope ... 12:41 < rxr> but you can sudo bash --login 12:41 < rxr> or sudo passwd to set a root password 12:41 < rxr> live: what harware are you running ong ? 12:41 < rxr> on eve ... 12:41 < live> yes. there are binary nvidia drivers include? 12:42 < rxr> even ... 12:42 < rxr> yes - the nvidia binary driver should also be there ... 12:42 < rxr> but I do not enable it by default - due to the lack of testing ... 12:42 < rxr> if you want to enable it I can tell you how to ... 12:42 < rxr> live: can you post your hardare specs so I can add it to the tested hardware list ? 12:42 < live> yes please. i will test it 12:42 < rxr> live: ok - then do: 12:43 < rxr> sudo bash --login 12:43 < rxr> and then edit /tmp/xdetect 12:43 < rxr> e.g. with vi or whatever 12:43 < rxr> line 45 and 46 are nvidia driver detection 12:43 < rxr> they are commented out ... 12:44 < rxr> just remove the trailing hash and restart your X - and pray it comes up again ,-) 12:44 < rxr> but please 12:44 < rxr> write some lines about your hardware - cpu, ram, video card, vendor - if not selfmade 12:44 < live> okay, i will do it. 12:45 < live> back in some sec ... 12:45 -!- live [~live@pD9E73DE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["nvidia sucks ...?!"] 12:54 < rxr> seems the nvidia driver did not work out :-((( 12:54 -!- maddin [~martin@pD9E73DE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 12:54 < maddin> re 12:54 < rxr> hi 12:55 < maddin> okay, i have not change the root-password and yes, X is not restart Ö( 12:55 < rxr> I have feared that ... 12:55 < rxr> I'll investigate later why the binary dirver does not want to come up .. 12:55 < rxr> maddin: what are the specs of your hardware? 12:56 < maddin> It miss one kernel modul but found screens, but no useable configuration and then it found no screens ... foobar 12:56 < rxr> maddin: btw. in the next revision - the evening or so - the device permissions will be more correct, any volume will automatically appear - including plug-n-play USB and such storage devices and gimp will work 12:57 < rxr> soon it will have graphical network config - valentin is working on that 12:57 < maddin> now, kde is realy broken 12:57 < rxr> now ? 12:57 < valentin> maddin: what is broken in kde ? 12:57 < maddin> nothing is work. the kde-desktop is broken in the middle 12:57 < valentin> hi maddin btw 12:57 < maddin> hi valentin 12:57 < rxr> maddin: in the live cd or in your system ? 12:58 < maddin> at the live cd. I think the cd is broken 12:58 < maddin> the kde assistent start all minute 12:58 < maddin> btw: add a default kde-profile. so the kde-assitent will not start at first kde start?1 12:59 < rxr> no - because internation users will chooce the language there ... 12:59 < maddin> hmm, okay. 13:00 < rxr> maddin: hardware specs - hint hint 13:01 < maddin> one minute: I think, I muste reboot one time more 13:47 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has joined #t2 13:48 < rxr> May 14 13:45:27 haudraufinix kernel: Call Trace: 13:48 < rxr> May 14 13:45:27 haudraufinix kernel: [] class_device_attr_store+0x24/0x30 13:48 < rxr> May 14 13:45:27 haudraufinix kernel: [] flush_write_buffer+0x28/0x30 13:48 < rxr> May 14 13:45:27 haudraufinix kernel: [] sysfs_write_file+0x3b/0x60 13:48 < rxr> May 14 13:45:27 haudraufinix kernel: [] vfs_write+0xfa/0x100 13:48 < rxr> May 14 13:45:27 haudraufinix kernel: [] sys_write+0x3d/0x70 13:48 < rxr> May 14 13:45:27 haudraufinix kernel: [] syscall_call+0x7/0xb 13:48 < rxr> .oO 13:53 < valentin> rxr: what did you do ? 13:53 < rxr> tried to load by DVB-T PCI card's firmware with my new hotplug++ firmware loader ,-) 13:54 < valentin> yuck 13:54 < valentin> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/59553 13:55 < rxr> I would say leasson learned "never try to clean eletric devices in a washing machine" ... 13:57 < valentin> iBomb :) 13:58 < valentin> damn, if you search for (microsoft)? serial mouse (protocol\|detection) you get mainly noise 14:02 < mipe> does the livecd already have install to hd functionality? 14:06 < valentin> not realy 14:16 * sparc-kly now reboot for test T2 live :D 14:17 -!- sparc-kly [mubex@66-50-33-174.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:17 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 14:18 < minto> hi all 14:19 < valentin> hi minto 14:19 < valentin> you do not know where to find a serial mouse protocol demo ? 14:19 < valentin> s/demo/docu 14:20 < minto> me? I am afraid I can't help you there. 14:21 < valentin> i should read some source code ... :( 14:21 < valentin> google sucks for that topic 14:28 < rxr> xorg: 14:28 < rxr> xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/input/mouse# vi pnp.c 14:29 < rxr> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/resources/respec/specs/pnpcom.mspx 14:29 < rxr> maybe the later will even help your for modems 14:30 < valentin> thanx rxr 14:30 < rxr> I can plug my old modem into some box here if you wanna test it ,-) 14:30 < valentin> i tell you then... 14:30 < rxr> valentin: but better do network and the network article first ... 14:31 < rxr> we can do the not that common serial device detection early next week or so ... 14:31 < rxr> have you notified dr. that you could provide a network config article ? 14:31 < valentin> but i cannot test live cd when mouse does not work 14:32 < rxr> http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/1/161ba512-40e2-4cc9-843a-923143f3456c/pnpcom.rtf 14:32 < valentin> this guy is a doctor ? 14:32 < rxr> no - I just do not want to expose full names here ... 14:32 < valentin> ah 14:32 < valentin> overread that 14:32 < rxr> but dipl. ing. I think 14:33 < valentin> the "article idea" deadline was on thu 14:33 < valentin> i wrote a mail, maybe he wants it anyway 14:33 < valentin> but then i have to finish tomorow 14:34 < valentin> because they have an article deadline for 15.05 14:35 < valentin> so i have to "hack up" the user interface in the way it will look when all works ,) 14:35 < valentin> to take some screenshots 14:35 < rxr> yes, I know 14:35 < valentin> i think much can be done within 30h of work or so 14:36 < valentin> but if he does not want it, i do not care to much anyway 16:00 -!- rxr_ [~rene@85.178.182.99] has joined #t2 16:00 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 16:00 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005] 16:00 [Users #t2] 16:00 [ _Ragnar__] [ maddin] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly|U5] 16:00 [ CIA-10 ] [ minto ] [ mtr ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 16:00 [ jsaw ] [ mipe ] [ nzg ] [ sepp] 16:00 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 16:00 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 16:00 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 16:00 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 10 secs 16:16 -!- rxr [~rene@e178191116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:18 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:23 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.204.76.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:40 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:40 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 16:56 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:57 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 17:04 -!- You're now known as rxr 17:05 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.2] has joined #t2 17:08 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.4] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:13 -!- CIA-10 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:13 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 17:15 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:42 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:42 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 17:45 < valentin> rxr: you can add kerstins machine to your cerified hardware section, too - if you want ... 17:46 < rxr> specs are? 17:46 < rxr> but the mouse does not yet work ! 17:46 < rxr> ,-) 17:46 < rxr> Athlon 600 ? 17:46 < valentin> rxr: if i plug in an imaginary usb or (real) ps2 mouse, it would work out for sure 17:46 < valentin> yep 17:47 < rxr> MB RAM ? 17:47 < rxr> AMD Irongate board, right? 17:47 < rxr> which matrox? G450 or so ? 17:47 < valentin> there is 256 MB in it 17:48 < valentin> should be G450 17:48 < valentin> mom 17:48 < valentin> it is Irongate board 17:48 < rxr> dbus get's on my nerves ... 17:48 < valentin> Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 130). 17:49 < valentin> G400 ?? 17:49 -!- c4y0 [~cmora@adsl200-75-92-166.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 17:49 < c4y0> hi 17:49 < valentin> hi c4y0 17:49 < valentin> Trident Microsystems 4DWave NX (rev 2) <- though i did not test sound, the module was loaded 17:50 < rxr> I think we should start a certified Video and Sound round if it actually works out of the box ,-) 17:58 < rxr> damn - this hal stuff is quite complex ... 17:58 < rxr> I think it is mostly a quite misdesign... 17:58 < rxr> complex shity gnome style crap ... 17:59 < rxr> companies like red hat and novel produce ... 17:59 -!- tilix [~live@pppoe11.bol.bg] has joined #t2 18:00 < tilix> hi 18:00 < tilix> I`m writing this from T2 LiveCD r9! 18:00 < valentin> btw, stupid question: what exactly does PIM stand for ? 18:00 < valentin> hi tilix 18:01 < valentin> how does it work ? 18:03 < tilix> btw. there is something wrong with the PATH`s in this liveCD 18:03 < valentin> what is it ? 18:04 < tilix> i thought that modprobe is not on the cd, but I found it in /sbin 18:04 < tilix> you can`t run modprobe directly, you must run /sbin/modprobe 18:04 < valentin> tilix: as normal user or as root ? 18:04 < valentin> if you are user live, this is just normal 18:05 < tilix> but there is no root account, I think 18:05 < valentin> there is one - but without a login 18:05 < valentin> execute 18:05 < valentin> sudo /bin/bash --login 18:05 < valentin> then you get a rootshell 18:05 < valentin> and you can set a passwd 18:06 < tilix> netcardconfig from Knoppix works just fine here 18:06 < mnemoc_> what's nvidia status? keinek reported blank screen with r9 lastnight 18:06 < valentin> moin mnemoc_ ! 18:06 < tilix> but the default cyrillic font is very ugly 18:06 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:06 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 18:06 < valentin> hm - good that you say this 18:06 < mnemoc_> hi valentin, tilix 18:06 < tilix> hi mnemoc 18:06 < valentin> because you might be the only one who uses cyrillic :) 18:09 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:09 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 18:09 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:09 < tilix> in order to test nvidia, will this work: modprobe nvidia, edit xorg.conf and then Ctrl-Alt-Backspace? 18:09 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 18:09 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:09 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 18:09 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:09 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 18:10 < valentin> tilix: you have the nvidia module but it was not loaded ? 18:11 < tilix> rxr said he commented it out in xdetect 18:11 < tilix> and lsmod | grep nvidia gives only nvidia_agp 18:17 < rxr> tilix: yes, that could work, could you test ? 18:17 < tilix> sure 18:19 < tilix> bash-3.00$ sudo /sbin/modprobe nvidia 18:19 < tilix> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.11.8-dist/video/nvidia.ko): No such device 18:20 < tilix> dmesg: 18:20 < tilix> NVRM: no devices probed, aborting! NVRM: this often occurs when rivafb is loaded and claims the device's resources. NVRM: try removing the rivafb module (or reconfiguring your kernel to remove NVRM: rivafb support) and then try loading the NVIDIA kernel module again. NVRM: the NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1 device(s)!! 18:21 < tilix> ok. it worked now 18:21 < rxr> is the rivafb loaded ? 18:21 < tilix> i`ve removed it 18:21 -!- tilix [~live@pppoe11.bol.bg] has quit ["Plugin Unloaded"] 18:21 -!- tilix [~live@pppoe11.bol.bg] has joined #t2 18:22 < tilix> glxinfo: direct rendering: No 18:22 < rxr> yes - this is know 18:22 < rxr> nvidia replaces the GL libraries for T2 itself we need an alternative system for those files 18:23 < rxr> for the livecd we could jsut hack to copy them into the system if nvidia is detected - as quick hack 18:23 < tilix> in my distro, I did runtime linking 18:23 < tilix> but the module works ( I guess) 18:24 < tilix> ... in T2 18:24 < rxr> if graphic comes up, it works 18:24 < tilix> ohm. no nvidia logo 18:24 < rxr> hm - then it is not the right one ... 18:24 < rxr> did you comment out those xdetect lines ? 18:24 < tilix> i forgot 18:24 < tilix> i`ll try now 18:25 -!- tilix [~live@pppoe11.bol.bg] has quit [Client Quit] 18:25 -!- tilix [~live@pppoe11.bol.bg] has joined #t2 18:26 < tilix> no nvidia logo, but the screen position changed (it happens when I enter an accelerated mode) 18:27 < tilix> this Load "GLX" from xorg.conf might be a problem 18:27 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:27 -!- CIA-1 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has joined #t2 18:27 < rxr> tilix: oh 18:28 < rxr> tilix: in what timeframe do you intend to migrate to t2 ? 18:28 < tilix> i havent decided yet. Why? 18:30 < rxr> just so ,-) 18:30 < rxr> for my mental planing 18:30 < mnemoc_> :) 18:30 < mnemoc_> tilix: what is your distribution about? 18:31 < tilix> General type, only in Bulgarian. 18:32 < mnemoc_> aha 18:32 < tilix> Localized version of Knoppix, with many new software and patches. 18:32 < tilix> useful for newbies 18:32 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ 18:34 < tilix> rxr: I`ll migrate to T2 officially maybe when 2.2 is ready and stable. 18:34 < tilix> is it possible to have a package which provides /etc/skel/*? 18:35 < tilix> or I should specify those files somewhere else 18:35 < rxr> in your distribution you could extend sysfiles to place other content there ... 18:35 < rxr> or if you just want to add stuff - add another package 18:41 < mnemoc_> target/$target/pkg_sysfiles.conf overloads package/base/sysfiles/sysfiles.conf 18:41 < mnemoc_> so you have to 'source' original file before or after your changes 18:41 < mnemoc_> . $confdir/sysfiles.conf 18:42 < tilix> ok. thanks 18:43 < rxr> tilix: any chance you would jump in helping implementing it in the way useful for you ? 18:45 < tilix> i`ll try. what do you need? 18:45 < tilix> but it`s a minus for me that I don`t know the differences from Debian 18:46 < rxr> what do you mean ? 18:47 < tilix> where the different software is placed, for example 18:47 < rxr> like gnome or kde? 18:47 < tilix> I found them in /opt. Are there any BIG differences from Debian? 18:49 < rxr> I do not know debian in detail - but T2 is quite standard anyway 18:49 < rxr> you can also define your own prefix - e.g. if you want them in /usr you can tell T2 to build this way in your configuration or target 18:50 < rxr> locations should not be a big problem anyway - I mant more like geting dbus / hal running smoothly or your graphical installer or whatever you need for your distribution 18:58 < tilix> I`ll help with these things. 19:01 < CIA-1> rene * r8876 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/ (initrdinit mkinitrd): 19:01 < CIA-1> * added preparing the /dev/fs symlink to the initrd 19:01 < CIA-1> * added the embutils ln to the initrd 19:01 < CIA-1> * fixed the /tmp as mounted by the initrd to be 1777 19:03 < rxr> manager.c/103: daemon exit: no point living 19:03 < rxr> ?!? 19:03 < rxr> I could slap the gome folks every new day ... 19:04 < rxr> tilix: which desktop environment do you use? 19:04 < mnemoc_> rxr: what was thata= 19:04 < mnemoc_> ? 19:05 < rxr> mnemoc_: what ? 19:06 < tilix> kde 19:06 < rxr> ah - good 19:06 < mnemoc_> rxr: no piot living thing 19:06 < rxr> don't as me - grep the gnome sources ... 19:06 < rxr> most probably the volume manager ... 19:07 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.6/20050318]"] 19:08 < mnemoc_> .oO( was the hal patch not enough? )o 19:08 < rxr> I don't know ... 19:08 < rxr> most probably the usual "unable to work working code problem" on the gnome site ... 19:08 < rxr> mnemoc_: btw. dbus and hal never worked in T2, the init scripts starting the daemons as well as the users have been missing ... 19:08 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:13 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.8/20050511]"] 19:14 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:19 < tilix> rxr: why the default cyrillic font is so ugly? 19:20 < rxr> tilix: no idea - never used them ,-) 19:22 < rxr> we have a xorg-cyrillic-fonts package - but it is not built by default 19:22 < rxr> no idea about the content - did not do that pkg ... 19:25 < tilix> only "terminus font" displays cyrillic in KWord 19:25 < rxr> mnemoc_: by default this hal stuff mounts to /media ... :-( 19:25 < rxr> should I try to patch this away ... 19:25 < mnemoc_> rxr: i use /media :p 19:25 < tilix> ... and everywhere 19:26 < mnemoc_> tilix: did you try xorg-cyrillic-fonts package? 19:26 < tilix> no, I`m running the LiveCD r9 19:27 < mnemoc_> rxr: do you know how to make tar to ignore path when extracting? 19:28 < rxr> mnemoc_: what kind of path? absolute one ? 19:28 < rxr> mnemoc_: you use /media ? 19:29 < mnemoc_> rxr: yes, absolute ones 19:29 < mnemoc_> rxr: yes, i do use /media 19:29 < mnemoc_> /media/{floppy,cdrom,cdrw,usb} 19:29 < rxr> why? there was /mnt in the past ... 19:30 < mnemoc_> T2 has /mnt on fstab 19:30 < mnemoc_> but _i_ like /media :p 19:30 < rxr> why the h*ll ? 19:30 < rxr> mnemoc_: hm - not off hand - I thought there was s.th. but can not locate it right now ... 19:31 < mnemoc_> i just got used to it 19:31 < mnemoc_> i also use /srv 19:31 < rxr> oh my god? 19:31 < rxr> why do you dare do this? 19:31 < mnemoc_> FHS :D 19:31 * rxr kicks mnemoc_ 19:31 < mnemoc_> /srv is nice 19:31 < rxr> so is /var and whatever ... 19:32 < mnemoc_> it's a mount point for everything i serve 19:32 < rxr> why do we need incompatibly rotting stuff every few years ... 19:32 < rxr> just because SuSE or RedHat did it ... 19:32 < mnemoc_> nope 19:32 < mnemoc_> /srv is very usefull 19:32 < mnemoc_> /media ... i don't know 19:33 < mnemoc_> /srv/$client/$domain/$service 19:33 < rxr> ??? 19:34 < rxr> mnemoc_: can you commit a 00-dirtree update to trunk - I do not want to make my handy dirty ... 19:34 < rxr> and since I fear patching all the next gen dbus / hal stuff will make me crazzy I consider just eating tis /media fluff - yuck 19:36 < mnemoc_> rxr: i commited part of it 19:36 < rxr> part ? 19:36 < mnemoc_> phoine 19:36 < mnemoc_> phone 19:36 < rxr> okok 19:40 < rxr> i c neither srv nor media in 00-dirtree 19:40 < mnemoc_> ok, i have my brain back 19:41 < mnemoc_> i have done nothing to 00-dirtree 19:41 < mnemoc_> what do you want me to commit there? /media and /srv ? 19:42 -!- c4y0 [~cmora@adsl200-75-92-166.epm.net.co] has quit ["BitchX-1.0c20cvs -- just do it."] 19:44 < CIA-1> msluis * r8877 /trunk/package/java/maven/maven.desc: * updated maven 2 (2.0-alpha-1 --> 2.0-alpha-2) 19:56 < tilix> bye 19:56 < rxr> cu 19:56 -!- tilix [~live@pppoe11.bol.bg] has left #t2 ["Kopete 0.10 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 19:59 < mnemoc_> minto: here? 19:59 < minto> hi mnemoc :) 20:00 < mnemoc_> hi :) 20:00 < mnemoc_> can we talk about java? 20:00 < minto> Sure :) 20:01 < minto> I notices the new java-dirtree package 20:01 < mnemoc_> i want to install java tools at /opt/java and /opt/java/$JRE_OR_JDK 20:01 < mnemoc_> profile.d/java and profile.d/$JRE_OR_JDK 20:02 < mnemoc_> where profile.d/java set one $JAVA_HOME using a set of available options 20:02 < mnemoc_> java-conf.in will set JAVA_HOME during build using the same criteria 20:02 < mnemoc_> it's not an 'alternative system' but we need java working :) 20:03 < mnemoc_> minto: ? 20:03 < minto> I also want to postpone the real alternative stuff 20:03 < mnemoc_> we can't add a real alternative system to 2.1 20:03 < minto> I know 20:04 < mnemoc_> i'm looking for a solution on 2.1 first 20:04 < mnemoc_> but we don't want to change prefixes between 2.1 and 2.2 20:05 < mnemoc_> /opt/$JRE_OR_JDK leads to troubles on $PATH 20:05 < minto> The quick solution is transforming all profile.d/jdk in sun-jre-150 something like this 20:05 < mnemoc_> profile.d/java and profile.d/$JRE_OR_JDK <-- that :) 20:05 < mnemoc_> but they can't directly set JAVA_HOME 20:06 < minto> Uhmm? why not? 20:06 < mnemoc_> because you would get random result 20:06 < mnemoc_> if you have all JDKs and all JREs 20:07 < minto> Not random but not very predictable either 20:07 < mnemoc_> do you agree /opt/java for tools (ant, jikes,...) and /opt/java/$JRE_OR_JDK for $JRE_OR_JDK ? 20:07 < mnemoc_> 'unexpected results' :) 20:07 < mnemoc_> with /opt/$JRE_OR_JDK you _also_ get 'unexpected results' on PATH 20:08 < minto> Let me check I already have opt/java/$JRE_OR_JDK. Maybe not yet checked in. 20:08 < minto> it checked in. 20:10 < mnemoc_> does every JRE have a bin/java and every JDK have a bin/javac ? 20:10 < minto> Also profile.d/jre and profile.d/jdk are no longer used. Only the direct JAVA_HOME setting needs to be modified. 20:11 < minto> Most probably. But I noticed a difference with one of them. Don't know which one anymore. 20:11 < mnemoc_> i was thinking in having: 20:11 < mnemoc_> $ cat java 20:11 < mnemoc_> #!/bin/sh 20:11 < mnemoc_> exec $JAVA_HOME/bin/java $@ 20:11 < mnemoc_> on opt/java/bin 20:12 < mnemoc_> so java gets into PATH 20:12 < minto> Nice thinking 20:13 < minto> This is what java-dirtree could do 20:13 < mnemoc_> yep 20:13 < mnemoc_> install profile.d/java, $bindir/java{,c} and providing java-conf.in during buildtime 20:13 < minto> But I like also to see jdk and jre separated. 20:13 < mnemoc_> JRE_HOME and JDK_HOME? 20:14 < minto> jdk = JAVA_HOME 20:14 < minto> jre = JRE_HOME 20:14 < mnemoc_> i don't use java, that's why i need to ask dumb stuff 20:14 < minto> It not dumb 20:14 * mnemoc_ taking notes 20:15 < minto> I am also working on a java-conf.in that makes compile java packages easy. 20:15 < minto> I should be able to build java packages based on apache ant of apache maven (1 or 2). 20:16 < minto> With possible auto detection. 20:16 < minto> If possible I want normal java packages with minimal .conf files. 20:16 < minto> if .conf is needed at all 20:17 < mnemoc_> that's the idea of $foo-conf.in files 20:18 < minto> Last time you mentioned a for loop to detect installed jdk and set JAVA_HOME accordingly. 20:18 < mnemoc_> can you commit your WIP java-conf.in to java-dirtree? 20:18 < mnemoc_> yes 20:18 < minto> Yes, makes discussion easier as well. 20:19 < mnemoc_> [O] . $base/package/*/java-dirtree/java-conf.in kaffe gcj 20:19 < mnemoc_> if they are supported 20:19 < mnemoc_> [O] . $base/package/*/java-dirtree/java-conf.in 20:19 < mnemoc_> if not 20:20 < mnemoc_> and: for jdk in $* sun-150 sun-142 ibm blackdown; do 20:20 < CIA-1> msluis * r8878 /trunk/package/java/java-dirtree/java-conf.in: * Added build support for ant, maven and maven2 20:22 < minto> Unfortunately I still have problems building a very small java package. 20:24 < mnemoc_> 00-jdk :p 20:24 < mnemoc_> should i rename java-dirtree to java-base ? 20:24 < minto> Ahh, remove it. It was my java-dirtree 20:24 < mnemoc_> rxr: here? 20:26 < mnemoc_> minto,rxr: java-dirtree or java-base? 20:27 < minto> mnemoc_: One of the problems I get is that JAVA_HOME is set to something outside the sandbox/target 20:27 < mnemoc_> uhm?? 20:27 < mnemoc_> export :p 20:27 < minto> We can change the name later 20:27 < mnemoc_> it should work without exporting 20:28 < mnemoc_> minto: we need to get JDKs built before bdb 20:28 < minto> priorities need to change then 20:28 < mnemoc_> minto: because ooo mandates bdb java bindings these days 20:28 < mnemoc_> jikes after gcc 20:29 < mnemoc_> and JDKs after jikes and before bdb 20:29 < mnemoc_> or move them yo stage 3 20:29 < minto> Mostly JDK are only neede for building a target. Not for running it (JRE is needed) 20:30 < minto> Unless ofcourse the target is for developers 20:30 < minto> Does this justify moving jdk into stage 3? 20:30 < mnemoc_> JDK is not needed to build bdb bindinigs? 20:31 < minto> I am not sure, but I think it might be needed. But not for running the binding. 20:31 < minto> jdk is for building, jre is for running. 20:31 < mnemoc_> same case for gcc 20:31 < minto> To make it even complexer, every jdk as a jre as well. 20:33 < minto> Live CD might use jdk to build packages, but jdk does not need to be on the live cd to run. JRE (smaller) is used for that. 20:33 < mnemoc_> sure 20:34 < mnemoc_> but that is on install-time :p 20:34 < mnemoc_> priorities and stages are build-time only 20:35 < mnemoc_> i am worried about system .jar and .java files 20:35 < minto> I dunno when something should go into stage 3 and when not. 20:35 < minto> Why worry? 20:36 < mnemoc_> stage 3 is stuff built with the crosscompiled compiler needed by staff on stage>=3 20:36 < mnemoc_> which priorization is problematic inside stage 5 20:37 < mnemoc_> sometimes a package is built on a basic form on stage 3, to solve 'dependency loops' 20:38 < minto> Maybe we should first to try to get prio right 20:39 < mnemoc_> jikes after gcc 20:39 < mnemoc_> JDK needs JRE? 20:39 < mnemoc_> jdk after jikes and before bdb 20:39 < minto> no, jdk has jre 20:39 < mnemoc_> all JDKs in parallel 20:39 < minto> ack, I will give it a try 20:40 < mnemoc_> bdb will install it's .jar? on usr/ ... is that what we want? 20:41 < minto> Depends on where the java class loader is looking. Maybe /opt/java/lib is a better place. 20:41 < mnemoc_> ack 20:41 < mnemoc_> but we have to make 'java class loader' look there 20:42 < minto> that's what env var CLASSPATH is for 20:42 < mnemoc_> :D 20:43 < mnemoc_> so it wont be hard 20:43 < minto> I hope not 20:44 < rxr> re 20:44 < rxr> .oO(so much scrollback) 20:44 < rxr> 3044: 20:34:31.575: addon-storage.c:282: open failed for /dev/sda: Permission denied 20:45 < rxr> 3051: 20:32:45.701: probe-storage.c:160: Cannot open /dev/hde: Permission denied 20:45 < rxr> just to get some google hits on HAL crap ... ,-) 20:45 < mnemoc_> :D 20:45 < minto> Current priorities are: 20:45 < minto> gcc 102.300 20:45 < minto> jikes 550.000 20:45 < minto> jdk 800.000 20:45 < minto> bdb 107.000 20:46 < mnemoc_> and bdb33? 20:46 < mnemoc_> jikes to 103.000, and JDKs to 105.000? 20:46 < minto> bdb33 104.700 20:47 < mnemoc_> 104.500 :) 20:54 < rxr> || : 20:54 < rxr> ??? 20:54 < rxr> in redhat specs ... 20:54 < mnemoc_> rxr: hi... do you want /srv and /media on 00-dirtree? i have done nothing yet on that field 20:54 < mnemoc_> nice atribute :) 20:56 < minto> mnemoc_: I made the changes, do I need to make a target with it? 20:57 < rxr> mnemoc_: yes, add them ... now that there is no way back with all the world using them ... :-(((((((( 20:57 < mnemoc_> minto: why a target? sadly java is a part of our lives 20:57 < mnemoc_> rxr: ok 20:58 < minto> mnemoc_: How else to test? 20:59 < mnemoc_> "make a target" = Build-Target or mkdir target/minto-foo ? 20:59 < minto> build a target 21:00 < mnemoc_> :D 21:00 < mnemoc_> yes, sure 21:00 < minto> Might take a while then 21:00 < mnemoc_> but i was unable to build on trunk so i locally reverted 8811 21:01 < minto> What was unable to build? 21:01 < mnemoc_> gzip 21:02 < minto> Phhewww, so nothing I did 21:03 < minto> mnemoc_: we also have a java-conf.in in kaffe. 21:03 < mnemoc_> it has to be rmeoved 21:06 < CIA-1> msluis * r8879 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/java-conf.in: * java-conf.in now in java-dirtree. removed it from kaffe. 21:29 < minto> mnemoc_: Target building in progress. I have a very small target with jikes, sun java 1.5 jdk and bdb33 21:30 < mnemoc_> :D 21:31 < minto> mnemoc_: Testing prio changes does not make much sense. Testing all modified jdk's would take quite some time. 21:31 < mnemoc_> yep 21:33 < minto> I also made the prio of all jre the same a the jdk. 21:33 -!- mipe [~mipe@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:36 < mnemoc_> yep 21:37 < minto> I have to quit now. I already did to much. I should not sit this long on a chair with my aching back. 21:37 < minto> I will tell you tomorrow how the build went. Although I think bdb still needs to have JAVA_HOME to be set properly. 21:37 < minto> cu all 21:41 < rxr> hm - gentoo only has hal 0.4.x ... 21:46 < mnemoc_> gentoo is crap :) 21:46 < mnemoc_> rxr: patching them is not to hard 21:47 < mnemoc_> rxr: api changes sucks 21:59 < valentin> rxr: throughout rocknet, there are many fullpaths missing 22:00 < valentin> so we should either push /sbin into Path on sudo or edit the rocknet modules 22:01 < mnemoc_> PATH= on top of rocknet script? 22:02 < valentin> would be a possibility 22:02 < valentin> but mom 22:04 < valentin> ok, we do not need that 22:04 < valentin> PATH=$PATH:/sbin/ sudo /sbin/ifup eth0 ..... 22:04 < valentin> works, too 22:04 < mnemoc_> puaj 22:12 < rxr> valentin: please commit 22:12 < rxr> so - finally - /etc/fstab rewritten according to device plug 22:12 < rxr> damn hal crap .. 22:15 < CIA-1> amery * r8880 /trunk/package/base/00-dirtree/data.txt: * added /{media,srv} to 00-dirtree 22:16 < mnemoc_> minto: how is it going? does jikes build on that early prio? 22:19 < mnemoc_> three junk mails on the same day @ T2ML :D 22:19 < mnemoc_> we are getting popular 22:33 -!- sparc-kly [mubex@66-50-33-174.prtc.net] has joined #t2 22:36 < mnemoc_> netrunner: the policy for a 2.0.x is that 2.0.x.y contains only security fixes and tries to accomplish a maximum binary compatibility 22:36 < valentin> rxr: i use the path variant instead, because there are too many commands so it would need a big review 22:36 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.11.121] has joined #t2 22:37 < keinek> hi 22:37 < mnemoc_> rxr: that was from th to netrunner ---^ 22:38 < sparc-kly> damn it . live r9 . in my machine KDE crash 22:38 < sparc-kly> and automatically reboot 22:38 < mnemoc_> o_O 22:39 < sparc-kly> im sorry my english sucks . mnenoc traduce : 22:39 < sparc-kly> boteeo salen las X 22:39 < sparc-kly> KDE esta subiendo 22:39 < sparc-kly> sale lo de configurarle el idioma y esas cosas 22:39 < sparc-kly> pero sale como 7 veces 22:39 < sparc-kly> y el kde da start 7 veces. 22:39 < sparc-kly> y ahi se crashea 22:40 < sparc-kly> y bootie el cd 2 veces y la misma mierda 22:40 < mnemoc_> looping on language selection? and X crashing and respawing? 22:40 < sparc-kly> yep 22:41 < mnemoc_> valentin: ideas? 22:42 < sparc-kly> the real problem is kde language selection looping . and KDE start lopping . next X crash :S 22:43 < sparc-kly> i have AMD Xp 2000+ , 512 ram , Sis Motherboard all in one , and Nivida Gforece Mx 400 video card 64mb DDR . 22:44 < rxr> sparc-kly: I think I know the reason - wait for r10 tomorrow or so - should work fine then 23:02 < rxr> ok /me bed - n8 alll 23:03 < mnemoc_> n8 rxr 23:03 < sparc-kly> ok thanks 23:03 < sparc-kly> :D 23:03 -!- sparc-kly [mubex@66-50-33-174.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:08 < valentin> gn8 rxr 23:10 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 23:53 < CIA-1> amery * r8881 /branches/2.1/package/printing/cups/cups.conf: * fixed cups to install setprinter_cups alternative handler --- Log closed Sun May 15 00:00:49 2005