--- Log opened Wed May 04 00:00:06 2005 --- Day changed Wed May 04 2005 00:00 -!- daja77 [[Csr8CWWhB@odoaker.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #t2 00:00 < rxr> oh daja77 ... 00:00 < daja77> hi rxr 00:00 < CIA-9> rene * r8655 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/ppc-static-ctor-dtor.patch: 00:00 < CIA-9> * fixed (work arounded) dietlibc _dyn_start dl_init handling by 00:00 < CIA-9> zeroing noise in the register - this is a quick-fix 00:01 < rxr> ^- valentin: can you cross check ? 00:02 < rxr> valentin: works here - all embeddedSTL tests run as on x86 .... 00:17 < rxr> GStreamer 0.8.10 00:17 < rxr> mnemoc_: Gambas 1.0.6 00:24 < rxr> n8 all 00:24 < rxr> cu 00:25 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@64.237.132.176] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:19 -!- veki [~veki@bunuel-cpe-49.nat-pool.bgd.sbb.co.yu] has left #t2 ["Leaving"] 01:22 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-99-171.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 02:58 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@64.237.132.176] has joined #t2 04:49 < ojh> Question: Is there a way of starting T2 installation by using LiLo as the booter? 05:40 -!- ojh [~omer@208-45-99-171.eugn.qwest.net] has left #t2 [] 06:22 -!- Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: valentin 06:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: valentin 07:02 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.9.27] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:56 < rxr> re 09:34 < rxr> ouhm - Qt builds in 10 minutes out of the cache here: 09:34 < rxr> == 09:23:57 =[9]=> Building kde/qt [3.3.4 2.2.0-alpha]. 09:34 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 90.59% (703 hits, 73 misses) 09:34 < rxr> == 05/04/05 09:33:21 =[9]=> Finished building package qt. 09:38 -!- jsaw_ [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 09:38 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:55 < rxr> wow - Darwin known issues: 09:55 < rxr> Known Issues 09:55 < rxr> ============ 09:55 < rxr> PowerPC-based Macintosh computers: 09:55 < rxr> * AirPort wireless cards are detected, but cannot be configured. 09:55 < rxr> x86-based personal computers: 09:55 < rxr> * IDE drives may not work on x86. Try it, if it doesn't work, it's a known problem. 09:55 < rxr> * Video cards must support VESA 2.0 framebuffer modes on x86. Try it, if your console looks weird, or doesn't appear, it's a known problem. 09:57 < rxr> Major Changes Since Darwin 7.0.1 09:57 < rxr> * Korn shell (ksh) included. 09:57 < rxr> *grrrrrrrrr* 10:08 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@flapjack.navi.cx] has quit [Ping timeout: 14400 seconds] 10:10 [Users #t2] 10:10 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw_ ] [ mtr] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 10:10 [ daja77 ] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg] [ sepp] [ valentin ] 10:10 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 10:13 < rxr> hahe the darwin size even has a big typo: 10:13 < rxr> For PowerPC: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwinx86-801.iso.gz http://www.opendarwin.org/downloads/8.0.1/darwinx86-801.iso.gz MD5 (darwinx86-801.iso.gz) = dbd260dda994093a11c31afbe624aa34 10:13 < rxr> poor people downloading the x86 CDs for their Ma 10:13 < rxr> c 10:15 < valentin> moin 10:21 -!- rxr [~rene@85.178.181.173] has joined #t2 10:21 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+n] by kornbluth.freenode.net 10:21 [Users #t2] 10:21 [ rxr] 10:21 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 1 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1 normal] 10:21 -!- Channel #t2 created Wed May 4 10:22:23 2005 10:22 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 7 secs 10:36 -!- rxr [~rene@e178181173.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 10:36 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 10:36 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005] 10:36 [Users #t2] 10:36 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw_ ] [ mtr] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 10:36 [ daja77 ] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg] [ sepp] [ valentin ] 10:36 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 10:36 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 10:36 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 6 secs 10:45 -!- sepp [~sepp@p213.54.203.84.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:19 < rxr> user 0m0.028s 12:19 < rxr> ^- usb and pci hardware matching in 28 ms - despite the use of C++ 12:20 < rxr> 33772 May 4 12:19 linux-modmatch 12:20 < rxr> -Os -s -march=athlon 13:00 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0505/37884.html 13:01 < rxr> DSL-Flatrate mit 16 MBit/s f?r 79,99 Euro 13:14 < sparc-kly> 16MBit/s :S 13:15 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@64.237.132.176] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:23 -!- sparc-kly [~sunultra@64.237.132.176] has joined #t2 13:47 < valentin> rxr: you want to pay ? 13:53 < rxr> nope 13:53 < rxr> I'm happy with my cheap and quite fast alice thing 13:59 < rxr> hm - what do I consume for lunch today ... 14:02 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/ 14:02 < rxr> we need commits ... 14:29 < rxr> ok /me downloading darwin x86 CD - let's see what it does in Qemu ... 14:29 < rxr> and /me of getting some food for lunch ... 14:55 -!- tilix [~tilix@212.116.139.141] has joined #t2 15:06 < mnemoc_> moin 15:06 < mnemoc_> rxr: we don't have gambas... yet 15:10 < rxr> mnemoc_: moin 15:10 < rxr> mnemoc_: yep - I just remebered you always wanted to package it ,-) 15:12 < mnemoc_> rxr: i want many packages :p 15:22 -!- tilix [~tilix@212.116.139.141] has left #t2 ["Konversation terminated!"] 15:23 < rxr> ,-) 15:23 < rxr> I just keep reminding you 15:29 < mnemoc_> :) 15:36 < mnemoc_> rxr: do you know why can i be geeting this: Error: fontconfig: Didn't find expected font family. Perhaps URW Type 1 fonts need installing? : Times-Roman 15:37 < mnemoc_> considering: $ fc-list Times-Roman 15:37 < mnemoc_> Times:style=Bold Italic 15:37 < mnemoc_> Times:style=Bold 15:37 < mnemoc_> Times:style=Italic 15:37 < mnemoc_> Times:style=Regular 15:39 < rxr> where do you get the error = 16:04 -!- rxr_ [~rene@e178171151.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 16:04 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ 16:04 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005] 16:04 [Users #t2] 16:04 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw_] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 16:04 [ daja77 ] [ mipe ] [ mtr ] [ rxr] [ sparc-kly] 16:04 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 16:04 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 16:04 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 16:04 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 16:07 -!- rxr [~rene@e178181173.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:08 * mipe is cursing grub 16:11 < mnemoc_> oh 16:13 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 16:13 < minto> hi all 16:15 < mnemoc_> hi minto 16:15 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 16:16 < rxr_> hi minto 16:16 -!- You're now known as rxr 16:30 < mipe> does someone want to fix grub? 16:30 < mipe> :) 16:30 * daja77 hides 16:30 < mipe> rxr? i'll give access to my box 16:31 < rxr> mipe: not really right now ... 16:31 < mnemoc> hi daja77 :) good to see you around 16:31 < daja77> :) 16:32 < mipe> i just dont know where to start debugging,it looks like it doesnt even start running it,crashes between libc and grub 16:33 < mnemoc> mipe: other loaders work? 16:33 < mipe> mnemoc:other loaders? 16:33 < mnemoc> lilo 16:34 < daja77> syslinux 16:34 < mipe> syslinux works(bootdisk target uses this?), lilo havent tryed 16:35 < daja77> so use syslinux e.g. 16:35 < mnemoc> :) 16:55 * sparc-kly try to build t2 on debian 16:56 * mnemoc fears 16:56 < daja77> *gg* 16:57 < mnemoc> :) 16:57 < sparc-kly> LOL 16:58 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/t2/t2-build.log <-- look 17:00 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh renders stuff like http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html 17:01 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: i hate debian :( 17:03 < sparc-kly> all here hate debian . hmmm 17:03 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: can you enable XTRACE, rebuild and publish your 0-binutils.err ? 17:03 < sparc-kly> ok wait moment 17:04 * sparc-kly search in handbook 17:11 < sparc-kly> mnemoc no encuentro nada del xtrace en el handbook . 17:12 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: XTRACE is a Config option 17:13 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: vi config/foo/config search for XTRACE and change it to 1 17:13 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: of course it can be done on Config interface also 17:13 < mnemoc> i have to go to class 17:14 < sparc-kly> i set xtrace . now 17:14 * sparc-kly buid bin utils again 17:15 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: try to misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh and http-publish regressions dir 17:16 < sparc-kly> my t2 trunk is in http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex 17:16 -!- _jeru [~jeru@p54BFF8BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 17:16 < mnemoc> i have to go 17:16 -!- _jeru is now known as jeru 17:16 < jeru> hi all 17:16 < jeru> mnemoc: cu later :) 17:16 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9-bootdisk/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.err 17:17 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:17 -!- minto_ [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 17:36 -!- minto_ is now known as minto 17:38 * minto wonders if CIA abandoned us. 17:45 * rxr wonders if we should get KGB up and running 17:47 < minto> :-) 17:47 < minto> rxr: serious, normally commits show up here. My latest on trunk didn't. 17:48 < jeru> hi minto, rxr 17:48 < minto> hi jeru :-) 17:52 < rxr> minto: yep - CIA is higly instable 17:52 < rxr> minto: we longer planned to setup an own KGB ... 17:52 < minto> Ahh, ack 17:53 < daja77> t2 intelligence service? ;) 18:00 < rxr> mnemoc already registered kgb ,-) 18:00 < daja77> kde on subversion now ;) 18:08 < rxr> daja77: how are you? how comes you chill out in this channel ? 18:10 < daja77> I am fine thx, playing around with gcc4 and glibc-cvs atm, I cleared my chan list, found a place for this one and i found t2 irc logs while googling for build errors the last two days ;) 18:10 < daja77> just sent my grats to danimo ^^ 18:11 < valentin> mnemoc: you should use that nick from time to time, otherwise freenode staff will give it away 18:11 < rxr> valentin: I think mnemoc did yesterday 18:23 < valentin> i'll move home, cu 18:38 < rxr> cu 18:39 < mtr> re 18:51 < mtr> why does mysql install shared libs in $libdir/mysql .... ? 18:52 < mtr> if one ever wants to use libmysqlclient.so he has to change /etc/ld.so.conf 18:53 < mtr> shouldn't mysql add $libdir/mysql to ld.so.conf ? 18:53 < mtr> or should we add symlinks from $libdir to $libdir/mysql ? 18:54 < rxr> hm - shouldn't it just work? 18:54 < rxr> with the rpath encoded into the resulting binary ... ? 18:57 < mtr> hm, i am not sure. i added mysql support to postfix, with -DHAS_MYSQL and so on 18:58 < mtr> the install fails with: /usr/sbin/postconf: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.14 19:00 < mtr> probable it is postfix' fault, maybe it mixes up the path/rpath somehow 19:05 < rxr> where have other dists mysql ? 19:05 < rxr> maybe we should put it into /usr/lib then ... 19:08 < mtr> suse has them in /usr/lib, and adds symlinks in /usr/lib/mysql/, hmm 19:13 < mtr> i do not know about others, debian has them in /usr/lib, fedora seems to have the same problem ... 19:13 < rxr> the same prob. as T2 ? 19:14 < rxr> I would vote to move the libs to /usr/lib without any .../mysql additions ... 19:16 < mtr> so, i will add a --with-libdir=$root/usr/lib option to mysql and test, hopefully it will not break others 19:17 < rxr> yep 19:17 < rxr> hm - on the other hand ... 19:18 < rxr> we install it into /opt/mysql anyway, right? 19:18 < mtr> yes 19:19 < rxr> you alter if for your custom distribution to /usr ? 19:20 < rxr> now that I think about it - since this seems to be the intentional decision by the mysql people, maybe better leave it - and just fix the one package that has the link problem ... 19:20 < mtr> no no, i did not changed mysql 19:21 < mtr> ok, so looking into postfix now ... 19:37 < mipe> rxr where have other dists mysql ? <--- fedora has mysql in /usr/lib{,64}/mysql 19:47 < rxr> mipe: I'm not an expert in other dists ... 19:47 < rxr> mipe: mtr pointed to some places above 19:48 < rxr> mipe: I'm using ROCK and now T2 for over 4 years or so ... my experience is more about package defaults and sane packaging in general ,-) 19:50 < mipe> well i'm no expert in any dists, i just pointed out where fedora has them,since i'm running it 19:50 < rxr> mipe: ah - sorry - misread it with one eye on my editor window ... 19:53 < rxr> ok /me off to susan - cu when my iBook hits the w-lan there ... 19:56 < mnemoc> hi 19:56 < mnemoc> valentin: i logged yesterday as kgb :) 20:05 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.6/20050318]"] 20:53 < sparc-kly> loading cache config.cache 20:53 < sparc-kly> .: 521: config.cache: not found 20:53 < sparc-kly> <--wtf is that 20:55 < mnemoc> weird 20:55 < mnemoc> where was your build log? 20:56 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-x86-bootdisk/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.err 20:57 < sparc-kly> config.cache is what ? 20:58 < mnemoc> it's used to inject crossbuilding data for ./configure 20:59 < mnemoc> give me a minute 21:02 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9-bootdisk/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.err <-- same error in sparc build . 21:02 < mnemoc> over debian also? 21:03 < sparc-kly> yep . 21:12 < mnemoc> uhm 21:12 < mnemoc> weird 21:15 < sparc-kly> T2 hate debian .hmmm. 21:15 < sparc-kly> t2 run in gentoo fine ? 21:17 < rxr> hi 21:17 < sparc-kly> hi rxr 21:17 < rxr> hi mnemoc 21:21 -!- mipe [~mika@dsl10040.japo.fi] has quit ["(FIN<->SWE Hockey)"] 21:33 < valentin> re 21:38 < rxr> hi valentin 21:39 < valentin> hi rxr 21:39 < valentin> how are you ? 21:40 < rxr> oh - godd 21:40 < rxr> STL makes progress 21:43 < rxr> I find the G** 21:43 < rxr> GCC shipped STL overly ugly ... 21:43 < mnemoc> my cardbus seems to have muted 21:44 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i see _all_ modpules which can apply to a device? 21:46 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: still here? 21:46 < sparc-kly> yep 21:47 < sparc-kly> i go to univ now . wait for sparc-kly|univ 21:48 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: ok 21:48 < mnemoc> rxr: now i have yerta_socket on my cardbus... but i don't remember to have seen that modules before 21:49 < mnemoc> rxr: and now kernel doesn't detect when i plug things on pcmcia 22:20 < rxr> hm 22:20 < rxr> pcmcia was always ugly 22:20 < rxr> or is this 32bit cardbus ? 22:31 -!- sparc-kly|univ [~mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 22:52 -!- Davidcc6 [1000@cable200-116-2-164.epm.net.co] has joined #t2 23:01 < rxr> valentin: we need an exactDebug ... 23:01 < rxr> hi Davidcc6 23:02 < valentin> rxr: for early userspace usage ? 23:02 < sparc-kly|univ> hi all 23:07 < rxr> we need the debugger because GDB sucks so majorly ... 23:14 < daja77> ^^ 23:17 < rxr> daja77: yes? 23:17 -!- mtr [~michael@p54AFB227.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:17 < daja77> nothing, just what I thought two days ago 23:36 < sparc-kly|univ> mnemoc: unique SDE is t2 and rock ? 23:40 * rxr in bed soon 23:45 < valentin> sparc-kly|univ: rock is a DBK and T2 is an SDE ,) 23:45 < valentin> DBK == distribution build kit 23:47 < valentin> T2 was forked from rocklinux 23:53 < rxr> n8 all 23:56 < valentin> gn8 rxr --- Log closed Thu May 05 00:00:45 2005