--- Log opened Wed May 04 00:00:06 2005
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00:00 < rxr> oh daja77 ...
00:00 < daja77> hi rxr
00:00 < CIA-9> rene * r8655 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/ppc-static-ctor-dtor.patch:
00:00 < CIA-9> * fixed (work arounded) dietlibc _dyn_start dl_init handling by
00:00 < CIA-9> zeroing noise in the register - this is a quick-fix
00:01 < rxr> ^- valentin: can you cross check ?
00:02 < rxr> valentin: works here - all embeddedSTL tests run as on x86 ....
00:17 < rxr> GStreamer 0.8.10
00:17 < rxr> mnemoc_: Gambas 1.0.6
00:24 < rxr> n8 all
00:24 < rxr> cu
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04:49 < ojh> Question: Is there a way of starting T2 installation by using LiLo as the booter?
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08:56 < rxr> re
09:34 < rxr> ouhm - Qt builds in 10 minutes out of the cache here:
09:34 < rxr> == 09:23:57 =[9]=> Building kde/qt [3.3.4 2.2.0-alpha].
09:34 < rxr> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 90.59% (703 hits, 73 misses)
09:34 < rxr> == 05/04/05 09:33:21 =[9]=> Finished building package qt.
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09:55 < rxr> wow - Darwin known issues:
09:55 < rxr> Known Issues
09:55 < rxr> ============
09:55 < rxr> PowerPC-based Macintosh computers:
09:55 < rxr> * AirPort wireless cards are detected, but cannot be configured.
09:55 < rxr> x86-based personal computers:
09:55 < rxr> * IDE drives may not work on x86. Try it, if it doesn't work, it's a known problem.
09:55 < rxr> * Video cards must support VESA 2.0 framebuffer modes on x86. Try it, if your console looks weird, or doesn't appear, it's a known problem.
09:57 < rxr> Major Changes Since Darwin 7.0.1
09:57 < rxr> * Korn shell (ksh) included.
09:57 < rxr> *grrrrrrrrr*
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10:10 [Users #t2]
10:10 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw_ ] [ mtr] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
10:10 [ daja77 ] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg] [ sepp] [ valentin ]
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10:13 < rxr> hahe the darwin size even has a big typo:
10:13 < rxr> For PowerPC: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/images/darwinx86-801.iso.gz http://www.opendarwin.org/downloads/8.0.1/darwinx86-801.iso.gz MD5 (darwinx86-801.iso.gz) = dbd260dda994093a11c31afbe624aa34
10:13 < rxr> poor people downloading the x86 CDs for their Ma
10:13 < rxr> c
10:15 < valentin> moin
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10:36 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
10:36 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005]
10:36 [Users #t2]
10:36 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw_ ] [ mtr] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
10:36 [ daja77 ] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg] [ sepp] [ valentin ]
10:36 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
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12:19 < rxr> user 0m0.028s
12:19 < rxr> ^- usb and pci hardware matching in 28 ms - despite the use of C++
12:20 < rxr> 33772 May 4 12:19 linux-modmatch
12:20 < rxr> -Os -s -march=athlon
13:00 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0505/37884.html
13:01 < rxr> DSL-Flatrate mit 16 MBit/s f?r 79,99 Euro
13:14 < sparc-kly> 16MBit/s :S
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13:47 < valentin> rxr: you want to pay ?
13:53 < rxr> nope
13:53 < rxr> I'm happy with my cheap and quite fast alice thing
13:59 < rxr> hm - what do I consume for lunch today ...
14:02 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/
14:02 < rxr> we need commits ...
14:29 < rxr> ok /me downloading darwin x86 CD - let's see what it does in Qemu ...
14:29 < rxr> and /me of getting some food for lunch ...
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15:06 < mnemoc_> moin
15:06 < mnemoc_> rxr: we don't have gambas... yet
15:10 < rxr> mnemoc_: moin
15:10 < rxr> mnemoc_: yep - I just remebered you always wanted to package it ,-)
15:12 < mnemoc_> rxr: i want many packages :p
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15:23 < rxr> ,-)
15:23 < rxr> I just keep reminding you
15:29 < mnemoc_> :)
15:36 < mnemoc_> rxr: do you know why can i be geeting this: Error: fontconfig: Didn't find expected font family. Perhaps URW Type 1 fonts need installing? : Times-Roman
15:37 < mnemoc_> considering: $ fc-list Times-Roman
15:37 < mnemoc_> Times:style=Bold Italic
15:37 < mnemoc_> Times:style=Bold
15:37 < mnemoc_> Times:style=Italic
15:37 < mnemoc_> Times:style=Regular
15:39 < rxr> where do you get the error =
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16:04 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta4 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/
16:04 -!- Topic set by menomc [] [Sat Apr 16 00:33:34 2005]
16:04 [Users #t2]
16:04 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw_] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
16:04 [ daja77 ] [ mipe ] [ mtr ] [ rxr] [ sparc-kly]
16:04 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
16:04 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
16:04 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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16:08 * mipe is cursing grub
16:11 < mnemoc_> oh
16:13 -!- minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
16:13 < minto> hi all
16:15 < mnemoc_> hi minto
16:15 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
16:16 < rxr_> hi minto
16:16 -!- You're now known as rxr
16:30 < mipe> does someone want to fix grub?
16:30 < mipe> :)
16:30 * daja77 hides
16:30 < mipe> rxr? i'll give access to my box
16:31 < rxr> mipe: not really right now ...
16:31 < mnemoc> hi daja77 :) good to see you around
16:31 < daja77> :)
16:32 < mipe> i just dont know where to start debugging,it looks like it doesnt even start running it,crashes between libc and grub
16:33 < mnemoc> mipe: other loaders work?
16:33 < mipe> mnemoc:other loaders?
16:33 < mnemoc> lilo
16:34 < daja77> syslinux
16:34 < mipe> syslinux works(bootdisk target uses this?), lilo havent tryed
16:35 < daja77> so use syslinux e.g.
16:35 < mnemoc> :)
16:55 * sparc-kly try to build t2 on debian
16:56 * mnemoc fears
16:56 < daja77> *gg*
16:57 < mnemoc> :)
16:57 < sparc-kly> LOL
16:58 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/t2/t2-build.log <-- look
17:00 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh renders stuff like http://t2.geeks.cl/regressions/stable/regressions.html
17:01 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: i hate debian :(
17:03 < sparc-kly> all here hate debian . hmmm
17:03 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: can you enable XTRACE, rebuild and publish your 0-binutils.err ?
17:03 < sparc-kly> ok wait moment
17:04 * sparc-kly search in handbook
17:11 < sparc-kly> mnemoc no encuentro nada del xtrace en el handbook .
17:12 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: XTRACE is a Config option
17:13 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: vi config/foo/config search for XTRACE and change it to 1
17:13 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: of course it can be done on Config interface also
17:13 < mnemoc> i have to go to class
17:14 < sparc-kly> i set xtrace . now
17:14 * sparc-kly buid bin utils again
17:15 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: try to misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh and http-publish regressions dir
17:16 < sparc-kly> my t2 trunk is in http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex
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17:16 < mnemoc> i have to go
17:16 -!- _jeru is now known as jeru
17:16 < jeru> hi all
17:16 < jeru> mnemoc: cu later :)
17:16 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9-bootdisk/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.err
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17:38 * minto wonders if CIA abandoned us.
17:45 * rxr wonders if we should get KGB up and running
17:47 < minto> :-)
17:47 < minto> rxr: serious, normally commits show up here. My latest on trunk didn't.
17:48 < jeru> hi minto, rxr
17:48 < minto> hi jeru :-)
17:52 < rxr> minto: yep - CIA is higly instable
17:52 < rxr> minto: we longer planned to setup an own KGB ...
17:52 < minto> Ahh, ack
17:53 < daja77> t2 intelligence service? ;)
18:00 < rxr> mnemoc already registered kgb ,-)
18:00 < daja77> kde on subversion now ;)
18:08 < rxr> daja77: how are you? how comes you chill out in this channel ?
18:10 < daja77> I am fine thx, playing around with gcc4 and glibc-cvs atm, I cleared my chan list, found a place for this one and i found t2 irc logs while googling for build errors the last two days ;)
18:10 < daja77> just sent my grats to danimo ^^
18:11 < valentin> mnemoc: you should use that nick from time to time, otherwise freenode staff will give it away
18:11 < rxr> valentin: I think mnemoc did yesterday
18:23 < valentin> i'll move home, cu
18:38 < rxr> cu
18:39 < mtr> re
18:51 < mtr> why does mysql install shared libs in $libdir/mysql .... ?
18:52 < mtr> if one ever wants to use libmysqlclient.so he has to change /etc/ld.so.conf
18:53 < mtr> shouldn't mysql add $libdir/mysql to ld.so.conf ?
18:53 < mtr> or should we add symlinks from $libdir to $libdir/mysql ?
18:54 < rxr> hm - shouldn't it just work?
18:54 < rxr> with the rpath encoded into the resulting binary ... ?
18:57 < mtr> hm, i am not sure. i added mysql support to postfix, with -DHAS_MYSQL and so on
18:58 < mtr> the install fails with: /usr/sbin/postconf: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.14
19:00 < mtr> probable it is postfix' fault, maybe it mixes up the path/rpath somehow
19:05 < rxr> where have other dists mysql ?
19:05 < rxr> maybe we should put it into /usr/lib then ...
19:08 < mtr> suse has them in /usr/lib, and adds symlinks in /usr/lib/mysql/, hmm
19:13 < mtr> i do not know about others, debian has them in /usr/lib, fedora seems to have the same problem ...
19:13 < rxr> the same prob. as T2 ?
19:14 < rxr> I would vote to move the libs to /usr/lib without any .../mysql additions ...
19:16 < mtr> so, i will add a --with-libdir=$root/usr/lib option to mysql and test, hopefully it will not break others
19:17 < rxr> yep
19:17 < rxr> hm - on the other hand ...
19:18 < rxr> we install it into /opt/mysql anyway, right?
19:18 < mtr> yes
19:19 < rxr> you alter if for your custom distribution to /usr ?
19:20 < rxr> now that I think about it - since this seems to be the intentional decision by the mysql people, maybe better leave it - and just fix the one package that has the link problem ...
19:20 < mtr> no no, i did not changed mysql
19:21 < mtr> ok, so looking into postfix now ...
19:37 < mipe> rxr where have other dists mysql ? <--- fedora has mysql in /usr/lib{,64}/mysql
19:47 < rxr> mipe: I'm not an expert in other dists ...
19:47 < rxr> mipe: mtr pointed to some places above
19:48 < rxr> mipe: I'm using ROCK and now T2 for over 4 years or so ... my experience is more about package defaults and sane packaging in general ,-)
19:50 < mipe> well i'm no expert in any dists, i just pointed out where fedora has them,since i'm running it
19:50 < rxr> mipe: ah - sorry - misread it with one eye on my editor window ...
19:53 < rxr> ok /me off to susan - cu when my iBook hits the w-lan there ...
19:56 < mnemoc> hi
19:56 < mnemoc> valentin: i logged yesterday as kgb :)
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20:53 < sparc-kly> loading cache config.cache
20:53 < sparc-kly> .: 521: config.cache: not found
20:53 < sparc-kly> <--wtf is that
20:55 < mnemoc> weird
20:55 < mnemoc> where was your build log?
20:56 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-x86-bootdisk/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.err
20:57 < sparc-kly> config.cache is what ?
20:58 < mnemoc> it's used to inject crossbuilding data for ./configure
20:59 < mnemoc> give me a minute
21:02 < sparc-kly> http://xlinux.ath.cx/~mubex/t2-trunk/build/system-2.2.0-alpha-sparc64-v9-bootdisk/var/adm/logs/0-binutils.err <-- same error in sparc build .
21:02 < mnemoc> over debian also?
21:03 < sparc-kly> yep .
21:12 < mnemoc> uhm
21:12 < mnemoc> weird
21:15 < sparc-kly> T2 hate debian .hmmm.
21:15 < sparc-kly> t2 run in gentoo fine ?
21:17 < rxr> hi
21:17 < sparc-kly> hi rxr
21:17 < rxr> hi mnemoc
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21:33 < valentin> re
21:38 < rxr> hi valentin
21:39 < valentin> hi rxr
21:39 < valentin> how are you ?
21:40 < rxr> oh - godd
21:40 < rxr> STL makes progress
21:43 < rxr> I find the G**
21:43 < rxr> GCC shipped STL overly ugly ...
21:43 < mnemoc> my cardbus seems to have muted
21:44 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i see _all_ modpules which can apply to a device?
21:46 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: still here?
21:46 < sparc-kly> yep
21:47 < sparc-kly> i go to univ now . wait for sparc-kly|univ
21:48 < mnemoc> sparc-kly: ok
21:48 < mnemoc> rxr: now i have yerta_socket on my cardbus... but i don't remember to have seen that modules before
21:49 < mnemoc> rxr: and now kernel doesn't detect when i plug things on pcmcia
22:20 < rxr> hm
22:20 < rxr> pcmcia was always ugly
22:20 < rxr> or is this 32bit cardbus ?
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23:01 < rxr> valentin: we need an exactDebug ...
23:01 < rxr> hi Davidcc6
23:02 < valentin> rxr: for early userspace usage ?
23:02 < sparc-kly|univ> hi all
23:07 < rxr> we need the debugger because GDB sucks so majorly ...
23:14 < daja77> ^^
23:17 < rxr> daja77: yes?
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23:17 < daja77> nothing, just what I thought two days ago
23:36 < sparc-kly|univ> mnemoc: unique SDE is t2 and rock ?
23:40 * rxr in bed soon
23:45 < valentin> sparc-kly|univ: rock is a DBK and T2 is an SDE ,)
23:45 < valentin> DBK == distribution build kit
23:47 < valentin> T2 was forked from rocklinux
23:53 < rxr> n8 all
23:56 < valentin> gn8 rxr
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