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00:00 < rxr> mnemoc: first benchmark lines soon ..
00:00 < rxr> and soon in bed ...
00:12 < rxr> why is bash again getting on my nerves - sniff
00:37 < rxr> so - I hope now my benchmark stuff is fixed to produce results for botan and tramp-3d ...
00:45 < rxr> $ cdparanoia 1- -  | aplay -
00:45 < rxr> *g* - Apple hardware has no analog cd-rom to some analog mixer connection ,-)
00:45 < rxr> but with some good U*ix style toolchain - who cares ,-)
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01:00 < keinek> i have one problem with tk
01:00 < keinek> http://www.red-handed.com.ar/9-tk.err
01:02 < rxr> i see no error in it ...
01:03 < rxr> I mean it ends unexpectedly ...
01:09 < keinek> and.. so?
01:09 < rxr> why does it end ther ?
01:09 < rxr> the last line I read is:
01:09 < rxr> New Command: gcc -O2 -pipe -march=k6-3 -fno-branch-count-re
01:09 < rxr> is that the last line ?
01:09 < keinek> ohhh ok
01:09 < keinek> Mmmmm let me see
01:10 < rxr> btw. - maybe you need to build tcl first - and tk fails so early without error because tcl is missin ...
01:10 < rxr> but no idea - without more input ...
01:11 < keinek> look the private
01:13 < rxr> how did you build? 
01:13 < keinek> yes
01:13 < rxr> using Build-Target or Build-Pkg or Emerge-Pkg ?
01:13 < keinek> emerge-pkg
01:13 < rxr> did it download all files ?
01:13 < rxr> 01:10 <keinek> tar: /keinek/t2-trunk/download/mirror/t/tcl8.4.9?src.*bz2:  Cannot open: No such file or directory
01:13 < rxr> 01:10 <keinek> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
01:13 < rxr> 01:10 <keinek> tar: Child returned status 2
01:13 < rxr> 01:10 <keinek> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
01:14 < keinek> only tk
01:14 < keinek> i was download -alt-dir /bla bla bla /mymirror/ -copy tk
01:14 < keinek> all that before
01:15 < keinek> after do Emerge-Pkg
01:15 < keinek> becauso i dont like that download again.
01:15 < keinek> because*
01:17 < rxr> download again?
01:17 < rxr> keinek: the build error seems to be due to missing download - so ...
01:19 < keinek> ok i do that
01:19 < keinek> thanks rxr
01:19 < keinek> and...
01:19 < keinek> look my personal web page
01:20 < keinek> www.saafigueroa.com.ar
01:20 < keinek> now is under construction.
01:20 < keinek> but the phone cell mensages is working.
01:20 < keinek> if you wanna can send message direct to my cel phone.
01:20 < keinek> theres is free for me :)
01:21 < keinek> is just a simple web page.
01:21 < rxr> ,-)
01:22 < keinek> the idea is that every logo do something
01:22 < keinek> open new windows with something
01:22 < keinek> like de cell mensages
01:23 < keinek> :)
01:23 < keinek> you can hear the music?
01:23 < keinek> is a flash file.
01:25 < rxr> keinek: I only visited it shortly ...
01:26 < rxr> I want to get some benchmarking running ang fall into bed ...
01:26 < rxr> sorry ...
01:26 < rxr> but there was no music - but I have no flash on linux ...
01:27 < keinek> ok
01:27 < keinek> what time is there?
01:28 < rxr> 01:27
01:28 < rxr> "middle of the night"
01:29 < keinek> yeah... is time to sleep 
01:29 < keinek> here is 21:29 pm
01:29 < keinek> still have some hours of funny 
01:36 < rxr> [PATCH] User Level Interrupts
01:36 < rxr> ^- cool!
01:36 < rxr> linux-kernel
01:36 < rxr> I think I forward it to T2 ...
01:49 < rxr> Xen 2.0.5 
01:50 < rxr> "According to a survey, nearly 1/3 of users have clicked on spam messages and 1/10 have bought products advertised therein."
01:50 < rxr> ?!?!?!?
01:50 < rxr> what?
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02:19 < ideal> morning
02:19 < rxr> so - benchmarking fixed up ...
02:19 < rxr> guess I can crawl into bed then ..
02:19 < rxr> hi ideal !
02:19 < ideal> hi rxr :)
02:21 < rxr> ideal: how are you - how is life over there in china ?
02:24 < ideal> rxr: Fine. I just relocated from Beijing to Shanghai. Busy on working:) It's spring. So everything will be fine.
02:26 < rxr> ideal: what are you working ? what is your job ?
02:33 < ideal> rxr: making software to support media:)
02:33 < Postal> checking for tex... no
02:33 < Postal> !> checking whether autoconf is installed... yes
02:33 < Postal> !> checking whether autoconf works... no
02:33 < Postal> !> configure: error: The installed version of autoconf does ..
02:33 < Postal> !>     Please check config.log for error messages before th ..
02:33 < Postal> !> Due to previous errors, no 3-automake.log file!
02:34 < rxr> Postal: the complaint about autoconf is trimmed away :-(
02:34 < rxr> what is in the full log ?
02:34 < rxr> (but I'm really off into bed in seconds ...)
02:37  * rxr away - see you when it is mornign on my side ,-)
03:09 < mnemoc> rehi
04:14 < CIA-9> amery * r7713 /trunk/package/java/classpath/classpath.desc: * updated classpath (0.13 -> 0.14)
04:15 < mnemoc> anyone knows an online latin dictionary where i can ask for an already declened word?
04:40 < CIA-9> amery * r7714 /trunk/package/games/pingus/ (pingus.conf pingus.desc): * fixed pingus to link against out clanlib06
05:01 < CIA-9> amery * r7715 /trunk/package/games/pingus/gcc34.patch: * fixed pingus to build with gcc34
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06:32 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | @CeBIT Hall 6 H30-532
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06:32 [Users #t2]
06:32 [ _Ragnar_] [ ideal] [ mnemoc_] [ Postal ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 
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07:48 < mipe> mornging all
08:47 < mipe> http://www.au.ioccc.org/2004/omoikane.c
08:48 < mipe> nice piece of code
09:22 < rxr_> re
09:22 < rxr_> (morxr
09:23 < mipe> hi rxr_
09:23 < rxr_> mipe: does the FPIC stuff work as expected ?
09:23 -!- You're now known as rxr
09:28 < mipe> rxr: yeah now its working
09:28 < rxr> good ,-)
09:31 < rxr> mipe: do you have some sparce CPU power on your x86-64 box for benchmaring of gcc 4.0 ?
09:36 < mipe> sure,automated? i got to run to stores soon
09:36 < rxr> yes - mostly automated - but needs some manual care here and there ...
09:37 < rxr> do you have some tiny ammount of time ? If not you could just hand be a nobody user account and I play with it ...
09:53 < mipe> oh sorry... yeah i created user for you
09:54 < rxr> wow - thanks ,-)
09:55 < rxr> I guess I only create custom gcc's right now then - and start the benchmarking later
09:55 < mipe> did you see query?
09:57 < rxr> yep
09:57 < rxr> thank you ,-)
09:57 < mipe> ok me off for while
09:57 < mipe> np
09:58 < CIA-9> rene * r7716 /trunk/package/base/less/utf8-detection.patch: * fixed less utf8 locale detection to work for me ...
09:58  * rxr soon of, too ,-)
09:58 < rxr> mipe: cu later 
10:03 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/rene/hidden/gcc-article/2005-gcc4.0/
10:03 < rxr> all the benchmarks build some time ... :-(
10:55 < CIA-9> rene * r7717 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
10:56 < rxr> ok /me off - cu people
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11:09 < Minto> Hi *
11:14  * mipe back
11:14 < mipe> hi Minto
11:15 < Minto> Hi mipe, you're finnish aren't you?
11:15 < mipe> yep
11:16 < Minto> I have been to your country once
11:16 < mipe> :)
11:16 < Minto> nice country
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12:11 < jeru> moin
12:11 < Minto> Hi jeru
12:12 < jeru> hi Minto 
12:15 < mipe> rxr: can i see the results once you done benchmarking?
12:16 < jeru> hi mipe
12:16 < mipe> hi jeru
12:17 < mipe> rxr:looks like its idle again,i'll do some t2 building, inform me if you want some cpu time again
12:23  * jeru is hungry ... and in the cafeteria now
12:36 < mipe> rxr: and its all yours again
12:36  * mipe is away
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14:55 < mnemoc_> moin
14:55 < CIA-9> mika * r7718 /trunk/package/multimedia/libmpeg2/libmpeg2.conf: * for x86-64,disable acceleration detection(mmx) on libmpeg2
14:55 < mipe> hi mnemoc_
14:55 < mnemoc_> hi mipe
15:04 < CIA-9> amery * r7719 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.1.9-4 -> 6.2.0-8)
15:05 < CIA-9> amery * r7720 /trunk/package/filesystem/unison/ (unison-Linux.patch unison.conf unison.desc): 
15:05 < CIA-9> * updated unison (2.9.20 -> 2.10.2)
15:05 < CIA-9> * fixed unison gtk/text mode because gtk+2 is their default and not text.
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15:25 < keinek> morning
15:25 < keinek> hi rxr
15:25 < keinek> hi mnemoc_ 
15:25 < keinek> and everbody
15:26 < Minto> hi keinek
15:26 < keinek> rxr yesterday i show you one error
15:26 < keinek> hi Minto 
15:26 < keinek> the error that i was found when compile tk
15:27 < keinek> tar: /keinek/t2-trunk/download/mirror/t/tcl8.4.9?src.*bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
15:27 < keinek> "tcl8.4.9"
15:27 < keinek> the file that download is tk
15:27 < keinek> no tcl8.4.9
15:27 < keinek> so....
15:27 < keinek> tcl8.4.9?src.*bz2 is a dependency?
15:30 < mnemoc_> uhm?
15:30 < keinek> yes mnemoc_ 
15:30 < keinek> when i compile tk
15:30 < keinek> appear that error
15:30 < mnemoc_> you need to emerge tcl before tk
15:30 < mnemoc_> tk is tcl toolkit :)
15:30 < keinek> ok
15:30 < keinek> thanks mnemoc
15:30 < mnemoc_> yw
15:32 < keinek> sorry
15:32 < keinek> that happens before
15:32 < keinek> too much hours working :P
15:34 < mnemoc_> :)
15:44 < mipe> where is firefox 1.0.2 cant get from my current mirror, and from orig either
15:44 < mipe> tarball that is
15:45 < mipe> mnemoc_:what was the url for your mirror?
15:45 < mnemoc_> http://t2.geeks.cl/mirror/2.1
15:45 < mnemoc_> firefox is not yet there
15:45 < mnemoc_> give me 5 minutes
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16:25 < jeru> re hi
16:25 < mnemoc_> hi jeru 
16:26 < Minto> hi jeru
16:26 < jeru> hey mnemoc :) how are you ?
16:26 < mnemoc_> jeru: can you show me a sample (ldif) of your ldapdns config?
16:26 < jeru> hi minto
16:26 < mnemoc_> hi mipe 
16:26 < mnemoc_> err
16:26 < mnemoc_> hi Minto 
16:27 < Minto> hi mnemoc
16:27 < mnemoc_> jeru: i need to sleep :(
16:27 < mnemoc_> mipe: mirror up to date
16:27 < jeru> mnemoc: yeah ... let me see ... if I can provide you some examples
16:27 < Minto> I managed to get blackdown working properly (I hope)
16:28 < jeru> mnemoc: hope I'll see you later again ;)
16:28 < mnemoc_> jeru: i'll be here the whole day :)
16:28 < jeru> mnemoc: have you tried ldapdns yet ?
16:29 < mnemoc_> jeru: i have it installed, but i'm confused with the directory
16:29 < mnemoc_> i'll have to finish qmail, samba and pwg before anyway
16:29 < jeru> uhm ?? why
16:29 < jeru> :)
16:30 < jeru> I see ... then I'll ask questions about configuring .... qmail, samba and pwg etc ;)
16:30 < jeru> but qmail should be straight forward, or isn't it?
16:30 < mnemoc_> yes
16:31 < mnemoc_> but qmail wants uid=name, and samba uid=number :p
16:31 < jeru> I think your biggest wall is heimdal ;)
16:31 < mnemoc_> yes
16:31 < mnemoc_> i'll set them without gssapi before
16:31 < jeru> yeah ... me too
16:32 < mipe> hmm,ipw2100 isnt setted right,needs old hostap driver tarball which isnt available anywhere and isnt listed on download section
16:32 < jeru> so you want to build the ultimate, fully LDAP enabled server screaming machine, right ?
16:32 < mnemoc_> hostap exists
16:32 < mnemoc_> jeru: yes
16:33 < jeru> so we're two
16:33 < jeru> ;)
16:33 < jeru> at least
16:33 < mnemoc_> :D
16:33 < mipe> mnemoc_: yep but not that old driver 0.1.3, hostap as newer 0.3.7
16:33 < mipe> eh it wants 0.1.3 but 0.3.7 is only available
16:33 < rxr> re
16:33 < mnemoc_> can ipw2100 be patched to use hostap-0.3?
16:33 < mnemoc_> hi rxr 
16:33 < rxr> hi jeru mipe mnemoc_ ,-)
16:34 < mipe> hi rxr
16:34 < mipe> rxr:how long will the tests run?
16:35 < Minto> :-(
16:35 < jeru> hi rxr :)
16:40 < mnemoc_> jeru: i'm confused how to set the domain, mx, and A-s
16:40 < mnemoc_> jeru: dNSDomain use a dc and an assosiatedDomain
16:40 < jeru> mnemoc: it seems that I've screwd up my slapd ... can't send you an ldif immediately 
16:40 < jeru> :/
16:41 < mnemoc_> oh
16:41 < jeru> db backend seems to be broken
16:41 < mnemoc_> pff
16:42 < jeru> but what I did was simply creating an ou=dns, dc=my-domain, dc=com and placing domains there
16:42 < mnemoc_> what objectClass?
16:42 < jeru> eg: dc=geeks, dc=cl, ou=dns, ...
16:43 < jeru> dnsDomain
16:43 < mnemoc_> organizationalUnit + dnsDomain + anything ?
16:43 < jeru> nope ou=dns is just a organizationalUnit
16:43 < mnemoc_> uhm
16:44 < jeru> it's just something like a container
16:44 < jeru> dc=org dNSDomain
16:44 < jeru> dc=t2-project dNSDomain
16:45 < mnemoc_> each with a full 'AssosiatedDomain'?
16:45 < jeru> I think I'll write a small HowTo if I'll get it up and running again
16:45 < jeru> ;)
16:45 < mnemoc_> yes, please
16:46 < jeru> mnemoc: ack :)
16:48 < Postal> Hey all
16:48 < jeru> Hey Postal
16:49 < rxr> hi Postal 
16:50 < mnemoc_> hi Postal 
16:50 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html
16:51 < jeru> hey ... mnemoc ...nice UI ;)
16:52 < mnemoc_> ./misc/archive/RegressionsReport.sh -cfg foo :)
16:52 < mipe> mnemoc_: i have a patch for lirc pending,althought i'm not sure what to pass to configure, --with-kernel=x, there are number of diffrent drivers, but passing any it "should" iterate them all
16:52 < jeru> heh
16:52 < mipe> --with-kernel=--with-driver
16:52 < mnemoc_> uhm?
16:53 < mipe> it needs drivers for passed to configure thats why its failing
16:53 < mnemoc_> var_append confopt ' ' '--with-driver=any' ?
16:53 < mipe> yep
16:53 < mnemoc_> but?
16:54 < mipe> untested, since i'm recompiling linux24, for the 5 time grrr
16:54 < mnemoc_> i think i'll remove package/ from the report, and point package names to rene's matrix
16:54 < mnemoc_> mipe: skip it :p
16:56 < mipe> yep,works.
16:56 < mnemoc_> :D
16:56 < mnemoc_> so lirc fixed?
16:57 < mipe> yep
16:57 < CIA-9> mika * r7721 /trunk/package/multimedia/lirc/lirc.conf: * lirc,pass --with-driver=any to configure
16:57 < mnemoc_> opt/kde3/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/player_record.png: kaffeine kaxtv
16:57 < mnemoc_> opt/kde3/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kdvbra.png: kaffeine kaxtv
16:57 < mnemoc_> opt/kde3/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kdvbrac.png: kaffeine kaxtv
16:57 < mnemoc_> opt/kde3/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kdvbtv.png: kaffeine kaxtv
16:57 < mnemoc_> opt/kde3/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kdvbtvc.png: kaffeine kaxtv
16:57 < mipe> kaffeine?
16:57 < mipe> yep
16:57 < mnemoc_> who own those?
16:58 < rxr> GNU Common C++ 1.3.7 
16:58 < mipe> kaffeine and kaxtv
16:58 < mnemoc_> both is not a good answer :|
16:58 < rxr>   Mono Project 1.1.5 (Development)
16:59 < rxr> Sylpheed 1.0.4 (Main)
16:59 < mnemoc_> rxr: common c++? do we want that?
17:01 < rxr> we have it for years ...
17:01 < rxr> package/develop/commonc++
17:01 < mnemoc_> jeru: if i have one context per domain, do i need a common base for them?
17:01 < mnemoc_> rxr: oh
17:01 < mnemoc_> -[V] 1.3.2
17:01 < mnemoc_> +[V] 1.3.7
17:02 < jeru> mnemoc: haven't tried yet but as I understand ldapdns parses dcObjects in the whole directory
17:03 < jeru> so it should work
17:03 < mnemoc_> great
17:03 < jeru> mnemoc: I'll try that too ;)
17:03 < mnemoc_> i didn't wanted to fake an o=mnemoc :)
17:05 < jeru> mnemoc: do you have a kind of sample directory structure that I should test ?
17:05 < rxr> bsd has:
17:05 < rxr> Over 3000 ports, 2800 pre-built packages.
17:05 < rxr> seems we reach that some time soon, too ,-)
17:06 < jeru> uhm
17:06 < jeru> rxr: I believe that should work ;)
17:07 < mnemoc_> jeru: i'm starting from scratchs
17:07 < mnemoc_> jeru: organization -><- domain :'(
17:08 < jeru> mnemoc: ?
17:08 < mnemoc_> an organization can't be a domain acording to gq
17:08 < jeru> mnemoc: I'm using a dc scheme
17:08 < jeru> not o
17:09 < mnemoc_> ok, removing o
17:09 < jeru> eg: create dc=cl
17:09 < jeru> then create dc=geeks, dc=cl
17:10 < jeru> and so on
17:10 < mnemoc_> on that level i have 7
17:10 < mnemoc_> each on it's own context
17:10 < mnemoc_> aaarg.. rm -rf /var/opt/openldap/*
17:10 < jeru> with context you mean databases ?
17:10 < mnemoc_> yes
17:11 < mnemoc_> /var/opt/openldap/$client/
17:11 < jeru> ok ... we should use context in further disussions ;)
17:11 < mnemoc_> dc=$client,dc=cl
17:11 < jeru> that's what I use too
17:11 < mnemoc_> :)
17:11 < mnemoc_> i'll recreate my databases _again_
17:12 < jeru> mee too :/
17:12 < mnemoc_> :)
17:13 < mnemoc_> i hope to get a good database today :\
17:17 < jeru> mnemoc: what schema files do you have included?
17:17 < mnemoc_> include         /etc/opt/openldap/schema/core.schema
17:17 < mnemoc_> include         /etc/opt/openldap/schema/cosine.schema
17:17 < mnemoc_> include         /etc/opt/openldap/schema/inetorgperson.schema
17:17 < mnemoc_> include         /etc/opt/openldap/schema/java.schema
17:17 < mnemoc_> #include         /etc/opt/openldap/schema/krb5-kdc.schema
17:17 < mnemoc_> include         /etc/opt/openldap/schema/nis.schema
17:17 < mnemoc_> include         /etc/opt/openldap/schema/samba.schema
17:17 < mnemoc_> include         /etc/opt/openldap/schema/qmail.schema
17:18 < mnemoc_> those
17:18 < jeru> thanks ;)
17:19 < mnemoc_> yw :)
17:20 < jeru> mnemoc: do you want to store system user in LDAP too?
17:20 < mnemoc_> nah
17:21 < mnemoc_> i have pam_ldap but i don't want
17:21 < mnemoc_> and i fear nss_ldap
17:21 < jeru> :)
17:21 < jeru> you better do so :)
17:21 < mnemoc_> fear?
17:21 < jeru> yep ... 
17:21 < mnemoc_> :p
17:40 < mnemoc_> every dc= bellow a dNSDomain is an entry? 
17:41 < jeru> I think that's the way ldapdns will run with best performance 
17:42 < mnemoc_> and their A is a?
17:42 < mnemoc_> and their A are?
17:47 < rxr> mipe: that is ubuntu on your box ... ?
17:51 < mipe> rxr:yep
17:51 < mipe> rxr: did you run the tests?
17:53 < CIA-9> amery * r7722 /trunk/package/network/nessus/nessus.desc: * updated nessus (2.2.3 -> 2.2.4)
17:53 < CIA-9> amery * r7723 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * updated sqlite (3.1.2 -> 3.2.0)
17:54 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html
18:00 < rxr> mipe: I just started ...
18:00 < rxr> build a 3.4.3 and 4.0 compiler first ...
18:01 < rxr> mipe: it is online for some time - so it can crunch my tests for say 24 hours or so ?
18:02 < mipe> rxr:yep
18:02 < mipe> rxr:do you need all the cpu? testing few packages
18:04 < rxr> well - it is your box ... so I'm happy to run the stuff at all I can hardly ask to leave it under low laod ,-) No other load would be better since the CPU caches would not be invalidated ... but I do not take wall-time - but only the user+system time - so backgrond load only affecty the factual points ...
18:04 < rxr> so - do whatever you like to do on it ,-)
18:07 < mipe> :)
18:08 < mnemoc_> rxr: how often do you update the matrix?
18:10 < rxr> when I have useful results handy ...
18:11 < mnemoc_> what do you mean by that?
18:11 < rxr> mnemoc_: you mean the gcc benchmark matrix ?
18:12 < mnemoc_> no no
18:12 < mnemoc_> the T2 package matrix
18:12 < rxr> that one is updated every few hours ...
18:13 < rxr> maybe aroudn 4 times a day or so ..
18:13 < rxr> the bash script takes so much time ...
18:13 < rxr> do you miss s.th. ?
18:13 < mnemoc_> no, i just wanted to know to href it from regressions report
18:14 < mnemoc_> how long is 'so much time'?
18:14 < mnemoc_> mine take about 3-4 minutes :\
18:15 < mnemoc_> but i assume due to the amount of 'svn st' and 'svn diff' i do
18:15 < rxr> yeah - s.th. like 4-6 minutes on the 700Mhz or so Athlon
18:17 < rxr> I think more like 6 minutes ++ due to the not that young server ...
18:17 < mnemoc_> :)
18:19 < mnemoc_> gnomesword needs libgtkhtml-3 and that thing only exists on gentoo mirrors :\
18:19 < rxr> on on ours via cvs://
18:20 < mnemoc_> ok
18:35 < rxr> 5.1G mirror-t2-2.1/download/mirror
18:35 < rxr> ...
18:39 < mipe> oh damm,i should do some cisco exams
18:39 < mnemoc_> i guess i'll do versioned mirrors to be able to do some cleanup :\
18:39 < mnemoc_> oh... late! .. /me to the bank
18:40 < mnemoc_> jeru: i have missed README.configure :p
18:42 < mipe> *lol* iPod clone Super Shuffle presented in CeBIT was hoax
18:42 < mipe> scam or so
18:45 < jeru> mnemoc: shame on you ;)
18:48 < mipe> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/temp/seth/blog/xshots.html
18:49 < mipe> looks nice
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19:13 < mnemoc_> :p
19:14 < jeru> ah mnemoc :) ldapdns works again :)
19:14 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- comments about the pointer to the matrix?
19:14 < mnemoc_> jeru: do you have any helper to add/update entried?
19:16 < jeru> mnemoc: not yet
19:16 < jeru> if you mean some script ?
19:17 < jeru> using gq right now 
19:17 < rxr> mnemoc_: you scheduled commonc++ on your side ?
19:18 < mnemoc_> it's already built :)
19:19 < mnemoc_> jeru: i'm using phpldapadmin becasue it only shows valid classes and atributes
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19:20 < rxr> mnemoc_: nice
19:20 < rxr> did you schedule the other update I posted ?
19:20 < CIA-9> chris * r7724 /trunk/package/network/psi/psi.conf: * fixed a typo in conf file
19:20 < jeru> btw: you ref-build -> I think psi needs qt-qca-tls package to build
19:20 < rxr> mnemoc_: mono that was ...
19:20 < rxr> and this mono developer studio thing too ..
19:21 < mnemoc_> mono developer.... forgot that
19:23 < CIA-9> amery * r7725 /trunk/package/develop/mono/mono.desc: * updated mono (1.1.4 -> 1.1.5)
19:23 < CIA-9> amery * r7726 /trunk/package/develop/commonc++/commonc++.desc: * updated commonc++ (1.3.2 -> 1.3.7)
19:24 < CIA-9> amery * r7727 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4)
19:24 < mnemoc_> i don't see any mono develop update....
19:26 < rxr> thought I have seen that somewhere ...
19:26 < CIA-9> amery * r7728 /trunk/package/develop/tla/tla.desc: * updated tla (1.3 -> 1.3.1-fix-1)
19:30 < jeru> mnemoc: I'll try that phpldapadmin
19:31 < mnemoc_> emerge it :)
19:31 < jeru>  I guess I'll need apache, php too ;)
19:32 < rxr> Minto: did you knwo that we already have log4cpp ?
19:32 < mnemoc_> jeru: yep :)
19:32 < mnemoc_> rxr: found :)
19:33 < rxr> Minto: ah - ok - different group of people - most probalby totally different code ...
19:33 < Minto> Yes I do, but it is different from log4cxx. Log4cxx is supported by apache logging.
19:33 < rxr> mnemoc_: dounfd ?
19:33 < rxr> found even ...
19:33 < rxr> mnemoc_: the develop update ?
19:33 < mnemoc_> yep
19:33 < CIA-9> mika * r7729 /trunk/package/graphic/xpdf/xpdf.conf: * fix amd64 build,manually copy config.{sub,guess} for xpdf
19:34 < mnemoc_> mipe: what about 'patching' config.{sub,guess} like i do for uclibc?
19:35 < mipe> mnemoc_: uhm, where do you 'patch' it?
19:36 < mnemoc_> parse-config
19:36 < mnemoc_> uclibc/parse-config with some sed based helpers
19:37 < mipe> mnemoc_: hmm,looks like its just easier to copy new config.*
19:37 < mnemoc_> hehe
19:37 < mnemoc_> but dirtier
19:38 < mnemoc_> $pkg can have a modified config.{sub,guess}
19:38 < mipe> yep
19:39 < rxr> mipe: I could add recursive config.* tracking to FPIC-QUIRK ... ,-)
19:40 < mipe> to FPIC-QUIRK?
19:40 < rxr> errr - sorry ...
19:40 < rxr> I meant the amd64 config.* detection ..
19:40  * rxr confused ...
19:40 < mipe> yep
19:40 < rxr> spend too much time in real life today ...
19:41 < mipe> hehe
19:41  * mipe is away
19:41 < rxr> cu mipe 
19:51 < CIA-9> rene * r7730 /trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
19:51 < CIA-9> * implemented recursive config.{sub,guess} tracking for outdated
19:51 < CIA-9>  fiels not yet carring x86_64 - UNTESTED ...
19:51 < mnemoc_> .oO
19:51 < rxr> mnemoc_: ?
19:52 < rxr> it is only running for x86-64 - and we had it no recusvily before - so ...
19:52 < mnemoc_> svn diff -r7729:7730
19:52 < mnemoc_> ok
19:52 < rxr> mnemoc_: ?
19:53 < mnemoc_> that looks quite expensive
19:53 < rxr> why?
19:53 < rxr> it is only expensive for big packages ...
19:53 < rxr> and those amd64 boxes are fast anyway - and all thoes files are pretty much cached after T2 auto untar ...
19:54 < mnemoc_> :)
19:54 < mnemoc_> auto-untar use a pipe afair
19:54 < mnemoc_> not find
19:54 < rxr> ?
19:54 < mnemoc_> tar | tee list
19:54 < rxr> I mean the stuff in in cached after it got untared. ..
19:55 < mnemoc_> ok
19:55 < rxr> $ time find -name config.sub -o -name config.guess
19:55 < rxr> real	0m0.083s
19:55 < rxr> user	0m0.022s
19:55 < rxr> sys	0m0.060s
19:55 < mnemoc_> :)
19:55 < rxr> ^- after untaring linux-2.6.11 on my 2500+ XP
19:55 < mnemoc_> amd64 boxes are fast :=
19:55 < mnemoc_> :)
19:55 < rxr> jay - and I still have none :-((
19:56 < mnemoc_> 2500 is fast anyway too :)
19:56 < rxr> yep - not too bad - and already over a year old already ...
19:57 < mnemoc_> what was more expensive, the athlon or the printer?
19:57 < rxr> hehe ,-)
19:57 < mnemoc_> :)
19:57 < rxr> well - that athlon is only the replacement for the XP 1700+ that got on fire  ....
19:57 < rxr> remeber - the thing that smoked up one morning ...
19:58 < mnemoc_> yeah! i remember that
19:58 < jeru> really ? :D
19:58 < rxr> so the bare CPU and board was cheaper than the printer - but the rest was already in place ...
19:58 < rxr> jeru: yep - photo in a sec ...
19:58 < rxr> thanks god it was in the morning when I came back grom the bakery - and not in the night or so ...
19:59 < jeru> ack
19:59 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/hardware-hacking/gallery.html
19:59 < rxr> buttom ...
19:59 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/hardware-hacking/d0010144.jpg
19:59 < rxr> ah - no - the CPU overlived, too ..
19:59 < rxr> sold it ,-)
19:59 < rxr> only the board was dead ...
19:59 < rxr> I mean - maybe one could have resurected it by replacing the voltage regulators that blow up ...
20:00 < mnemoc_> what do you use to scale pictures?
20:00 < rxr> mnemoc_: custom tiny shell scripts and convert ...
20:00 < rxr> but that is the old gallery - the cebit ones are my recent script ...
20:00 < rxr> that allow low, mid and high resultion and so on ...
20:01 < CIA-9> rene * r7731 /trunk/package/develop/log4cxx/ (. log4cxx.conf log4cxx.desc): 
20:01 < CIA-9> Minto van der Sluis <Minto@MultiMach.com>:
20:01 < CIA-9>  * added log4cxx
20:02 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/hardware-hacking/rxr_pix-0006.jpeg
20:02 < rxr> ^- that one is a joke ...
20:03 < rxr> I had to build a bigger hifi rack just for that Yamaha Mini-Disc recorder ...
20:03 < rxr> imagine my assonishment when I opened it ...
20:03 < jeru> :D
20:03 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html#asymptote  mmmm
20:04 < rxr> mnemoc_: yeah - you miss gs ,-)
20:05 < mnemoc_> how can i
20:05 < mnemoc_> ?
20:05 < rxr> mnemoc_: ?
20:06 < mnemoc_> i have it
20:06 < mnemoc_> of course it's part of my reference build
20:07 < rxr> no idea - your .err says so ...
20:07 < rxr> maybe just disable the build of the docu ...
20:07 < rxr> maybe some PATH issue or so ..
20:07 < jeru> same with psi ... 
20:07 < rxr> mnemoc_: maybe double check that gs is functional inside your sandbox ?
20:08 < mnemoc_> jeru: same what?
20:08 < mnemoc_> why the hell do i have Plone-2.0.5 and qmatplotrc on my root??!
20:09 < jeru> psi needs qt-qca-tls package to build
20:09 < jeru> hmmm ?
20:10 < CIA-9> rene * r7732 /trunk/package/develop/ (log4cpp/log4cpp.cache log4cxx/log4cxx.cache): * injected log4cxx.cache and updated log4cpp.cache
20:10 < mnemoc_> needs qt-qca 
20:11 < mnemoc_> i'm not sure if qt-qca-tls includes core qca
20:11 < rxr> mnemoc_: when I inject the apr* packages, I downdate them to the apache version so we can build apache and subversion against those, right ?
20:11 < rxr> I mean I do not want 2 concurent apr version - one in /opt/apache and on in /usr or so ...
20:12 < mnemoc_> absolutly
20:12 < rxr> and apr* prefix? the apache one ?
20:12 < rxr> or /usr ?
20:12 < mnemoc_> /opt/apache
20:12 < rxr> but we can not bind them to apache ...
20:13 < mnemoc_> no?
20:13 < rxr> should I move the APACHE_CORE prefix there ...
20:13 < rxr> no apache needs apr then ...
20:13 < mnemoc_> .oO
20:13 < mnemoc_> apache don't need php, but php at /usr is discusting
20:14 < rxr> whre is php installed? /opt/apache ?
20:14 < jeru> yep
20:18 < rxr> I use the APACHE_CORE_PREFIX thing on apr and bind apache to apr, ok ?
20:19 < jeru> for me it's ok
20:20 < mnemoc_> i think you can source apache.conf
20:21 < rxr> hm - now with pkgprefix it is time to remove the if $pkg = apache and just bind subversion to the apache prefix ...
20:22 < rxr> I mean who sources apache.conf beside subversion ...
20:22 < mnemoc_> grep :)
20:22 < rxr> . $base/package/*/apache/apache.conf
20:22 < rxr> # . $base/package/*/apache/apache.conf
20:22 < rxr> # T2 SDE: package/.../apache/apache.conf
20:22 < rxr> . $base/package/*/apache/apache.conf
20:23 < mnemoc_> apache, usbversion and ? php?
20:23 < rxr> oh - sorry /me stupid ...
20:24 < rxr> database/phppgadmin/phppgadmin.conf:. $base/package/*/apache/apache.conf
20:24 < rxr> develop/subversion/subversion.conf:# . $base/package/*/apache/apache.conf
20:24 < rxr> network/apache/apache.conf:# T2 SDE: package/.../apache/apache.conf
20:24 < rxr> network/phpldapadmin/phpldapadmin.conf:. $base/package/*/apache/apache.conf
20:24 < mnemoc_> both mine :p
20:24 < mnemoc_> why not subversion??
20:24 < mnemoc_> err
20:24 < mnemoc_> ok ok
20:24 < rxr> ah - yep I remember
20:25 < rxr> someone did not wanted to have it in /opt/apache ...
20:25 < mnemoc_> me :p
20:25 < rxr> so - what about installing apr* into /usr ...
20:25 < mnemoc_> what is apr for?
20:25 < rxr> and just let apache and it's modules go into /opt/apache ?
20:25 < rxr> apache portable runtime
20:25 < rxr> a C library for platform abstraction - started to get used by other stuff now ...
20:25 < mnemoc_> do i want apr if i don't install apache?
20:26 < rxr> yes - maybe for the new log4cxx - or other stuff that wants it ..
20:26 < mnemoc_> ok
20:26 < rxr> e.g. when you want a client only subversion ...
20:26 < mnemoc_> /usr
20:26 < rxr> or or or ...
20:27 < jeru> rxr you're right place it in /usr
20:29 < Minto> Hmm, my first contributed packages seems to have caused quite a commotion.
20:29 < rxr> Minto: but they are quite well done - pkgprefix aware and such - great work ...
20:30 < rxr> Minto: does a downdate cause problems for you? to 0.9.6 - so we can build apache and subversion against those ?
20:30 < mnemoc_> ack
20:30 < Minto> There was a lot around for inspiration
20:30 < Minto> Downgrading is no problem for me. I just used it to learn to create a package.
20:31 < Minto> rxr: Remember the Cebit discussion about versioning packages?
20:31 < rxr> yep ,-)
20:31 < Minto> What if apache get upgraded and subversion not. Then you need two different apr's.
20:32 < rxr> well - subversion is always thightly bound to apache in order to get the server side backend working ...
20:32 < rxr> having two version of mostly the same think is often causing more trouble than it solves ...
20:33 < rxr> however for some stuff (gtk+, linux*) and so better versioning support could be handy ...
20:33 < rxr> however I really think those should be done with care and an exception
20:33 < Minto> I agree
20:33 < rxr> e.g. currently php is such an candidate with this php5 changes breaking quite a lot of code ...
20:34 < jeru> zope could be an candidate too
20:34 < Minto> Maybe something to think about for T2 3.0 ;-)
20:35 < rxr> yes - not 2.1 - maybe 2.2, or even far later
20:36 < rxr> I think just getting our package base to compile 100% and adding more of the useful packages is the biggest goal right now - to attract new users ...
20:36 < jeru> ack
20:36 < rxr> and of course then the gcc-4.0 transition will cause some regressions - as usual ....
20:37 < rxr> that is what 2.2 will be mostly for I think ...
20:37 < rxr> gcc-4.0 based ....
20:37 < Minto> I have plans for many java related things.
20:37 < rxr> + the usual cleanups we find ...
20:37 < rxr> ough - jv
20:37 < jeru> :)
20:37 < rxr> java - s.th. I could not care less about ...
20:37 < rxr> good that we have a java freak in our team now ,-)
20:37 < jeru> ack .)
20:38 < Minto> Not just java freak. I do C/C++/Tcl as well.
20:39 < jeru> :)
20:41 < mnemoc_> i don't want gcc-4.0 on 2.1 btw
20:41 < rxr> ah - I hear C++ - that is more attractive ,-)
20:41 < rxr> mnemoc_: of course not ...
20:41 < rxr> that is why I wrote that will be the major 2.2 thing ...
20:42 < mnemoc_> good :)
20:42 < rxr> 20:36 < rxr> and of course then the gcc-4.0 transition will cause some  regressions - as usual ....
20:42 < rxr> 20:37 < rxr> that is what 2.2 will be mostly for I think ...
20:42 < mnemoc_> i had the doubt about 'having it available' vs. 'using it as gcc'
20:42 < rxr> $ display stat2-rt.png 
20:42 < rxr> Xlib: connection to "localhost:10.0" refused by server
20:42 < rxr> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
20:42 < rxr> display: unable to open X server `localhost:10.0'.
20:42 < rxr> ^ - why the h*ll does this happen ..
20:42 < rxr> I let the ssh -CX idle around - hours later I wanna see that file .. and boom ...
20:42 < rxr> relogin often helps ..
20:42 < rxr> any idea ?
20:45 < mnemoc_> my pool of idea is empty since last week
20:45 < mnemoc_> ideas*
20:47 < rxr> mnemoc_: why that ?
20:48 < mnemoc_> stress i guess
20:48 < rxr> your commercial servers to get out ?
20:48 < mnemoc_> universitity interfiring my real life :\
20:49 < rxr> yeah - I know that university problem very well ..
20:49 < mnemoc_> "you live to study, and study to live" doesn't fit me
20:50 < mnemoc_> most teachers can't understand that :\
20:50 < jeru> mnemoc: I think there is one more whor knows what you're talking about
20:51 < mnemoc_> yep :)
20:51 < jeru> :)
20:58 < CIA-9> mika * r7733 /trunk/package/network/plptools/64bit-int-fix.patch: * plptools(x86-64),fix 64bit int define
20:59 < mipe> hmm,mysql debugging is left to tomorrow
20:59 < mipe> funny thing is that mysql_config --libs returns */lib/* and not */lib64/*
21:00 < mipe> but me to bed,cya
21:00 < mnemoc_> gn8 mipe 
21:00 < jeru> good n8 mipe
21:01 < CIA-9> amery * r7734 /trunk/package/editors/tea/tea.desc: * updated tea (8.1 -> 8.2)
21:13 < rxr> cu mipe 
21:13 < mnemoc_> http://wiki.parisc-linux.org/Distributions <--- and t2?
21:13 < mnemoc_> .oO( what is pa-risc anyway? )o
21:15 < rxr> hppa 
21:15 < rxr> Hewlet Packard at.al. RISC arch ..
21:16 < rxr> newer saw a box ...
21:16 < rxr> but we have the defines in T2 ...
21:16 < rxr> of course ..
21:16 < mnemoc_> hehe
21:16 < mnemoc_> do you know any good tool to convert .doc to .html?
21:17 < mnemoc_> .oO( i need to get OOo building )o
21:19 < mnemoc_> antiword looks nice
21:19 < rxr> mnemoc_: yeah - go for OOo
21:20 < rxr> btw I took a look at that hyped archlinux - they use a binary for OOo ...
21:20 < mnemoc_> i'll remove distro=Debian.... that is causing most of my troubles
21:20 < rxr> aside that it looks quite crappy, hacked together anyway ...
21:20 < mnemoc_> binary??
21:20 < rxr> those prebuild ones ...
21:21 < rxr> mnemoc_: there are binry prebuilds of OOo - didn't you notice?
21:21 < mnemoc_> :)
21:21 < rxr> of course you should not use them ,-)
21:21 < rxr> and get T2 buildig it from scratch ...
21:21 < rxr> is is going better without the Debian define ?
21:23 < mnemoc_> not tested yet
21:23 < mnemoc_> uhm.. antiword is already here
21:24 < rxr> ouhm - well:
21:25 < rxr> # apr-config --srcdir
21:25 < rxr> /home/rene/develop/t2-trunk/src.apr.1111692452.29661.263c0a8/apr-0.9.6
21:25 < mnemoc_> :\
21:25 < mnemoc_> why does he reveals that?
21:25 < CIA-9> amery * r7735 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (0.70 -> 0.71)
21:27 < rxr> try it on your machine ...
21:27 < rxr> /usr/src/t2-trunk/src.apache.1105812486.16564.201c0a8/httpd-2.0.52/srclib/apr
21:29 < mnemoc_> -rwxr-x---  1 root root 157K 2005-03-24 16:27 /usr/bin/antiword*
21:29 < mnemoc_> nice perms
21:29 < mnemoc_> # apr-config --srcdir
21:29 < mnemoc_> /usr/src/building/t2-trunk/src.apache.1110852125.14990.7f0100/httpd-2.0.53/srclib/apr
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21:40 < CIA-9> amery * r7736 /trunk/package/office/antiword/antiword.conf: * fixed antiword to use global_install instead of local (local means 750)
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22:22 < mnemoc_> keinek: any nice audio app for gtk+? (no gnome, no kde)
22:25 < mnemoc_> rxr: why gsmp is at rocklinux-consulting?
22:26 < keinek> audacity?
22:26 < keinek> let me see
22:27 < mnemoc_> wx :(
22:27 < mnemoc_> rxr: does gsmp record from mic?
22:27 < keinek> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
22:28 < keinek> but i dont know if use kde lib or gnome.
22:28 < keinek> meaby kde
22:28 < keinek> but...
22:28 < mnemoc_> it use wxwidgets
22:28 < mnemoc_> and doesn't build :)
22:28 < keinek> ohh yes... when i try compile have wx error :)
22:28 < keinek> is true.
22:28 < keinek> i need audacity :P
22:28 < mnemoc_> fix it :)
22:29 < keinek> yes i will try
22:30 < keinek> now i must move all files from my athlon xp to another computer
22:30 < keinek> for install t2 
22:31 < mnemoc_> to install or for installing, not for install :)
22:45 < mnemoc_> keinek: you seem to be quite happy hacking on t2
22:47 < CIA-9> amery * r7737 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtksourceview-sharp/ (dont_install_vbnet.lang.patch gtksourceview-sharp.desc): * updated gtksourceview-sharp (r40719 -> 0.7)
22:48 < CIA-9> amery * r7738 /trunk/package/develop/mono-develop/ (mono-develop.conf mono-develop.desc): * updated mono-develop (r2251 -> 0.6)
22:49 < keinek> mnemoc_, yes i learn quick
22:50 < mnemoc_> i would love to see you sending good patches soon
22:52 < keinek> step by step ..
22:52 < keinek> now i clean my debian
22:53 < keinek> debian was my great friend
22:53 < keinek> but.... the ms pacman dont work very well.
22:53 < keinek> so...
22:53 < keinek> ms. pacman is the ms. pacman.
22:53 < mnemoc_> what ms pacman?
22:53 < keinek> a old arcade.
22:54 < keinek> that i play in xmame :P
22:54 < mnemoc_> hehe
22:54 < keinek> http://www.basementarcade.com/arcade/mspacman/msmain.html
22:54 < keinek> do you remember the ms. pacman?
22:55 < mnemoc_> i read MS PacMan instead of 'lady' pacman
22:56 < keinek> is the best game ever
23:01 < keinek> 30 gigas of anime
23:01 < keinek> Mmmm
23:01 < mnemoc_> my whole HD
23:01 < keinek> thanks god that i have dvd-r
23:02 < keinek> when one serie es complete, i was record a dvd with the serie complete
23:02 < keinek> but there 30 gb
23:02 < keinek> is incomplete dvd
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23:04 < keinek> http://torrentz.burn.myvnc.com:5454/
23:04 < keinek> look that
23:04 < keinek> is tux warez
23:04 < keinek> a web pages full torrents
23:04 < keinek> and download quick
23:04 < keinek> somethings is legal
23:04 < keinek> somethings not
23:04 < keinek> PHP scripts
23:04 < keinek> and a lot of stuff
23:05 < keinek> ¬ ¬
23:22 < mnemoc_> rxr: do we what ooo using icecream?
23:22 < mnemoc_> rxr: do we want ooo using icecream?
23:22 < mnemoc_> keinek: o_O
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23:42 < keinek> mnemoc_, see la vi :P
23:43 < mnemoc_> c'est la vie?
23:43 < keinek> yeah! ;)
23:48 < mnemoc_> i have to go... cu
23:54 < keinek> cu
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