--- Log opened Thu Mar 17 00:00:27 2005 00:31 < keinek_> hey guys 00:31 < keinek_> clisp remain much time in compile? 00:31 < jsaw> keinek_: funny pictures 00:32 < keinek_> thanks 00:32 < jsaw> keinek_: kill it, there's something wrong with clisp 00:32 < jsaw> keinek_: it hangs somewhere 00:32 < keinek_> you make you own images in that page o above 00:32 < keinek_> ok i kill clisp 00:32 < jsaw> ? 00:32 < keinek_> and when i run build again? 00:33 < jsaw> I don't think it'll work 00:34 < keinek_> ok how i can continue the build target if clisp is malfuction? 00:34 < jsaw> touch build/.../var/adm/logs/5-clisp.err 00:35 < jsaw> or run Config and deselect clisp 00:35 < keinek_> ok i got the second one. 00:36 < jsaw> what do you mean with "00:39 < keinek_> you make you own images in that page o above" 00:36 < jsaw> ? 00:36 < keinek_> oh, you can make this pictures 00:36 < keinek_> if you go to the page that appear in this images 00:37 < keinek_> you are german? 00:37 < jsaw> ic 00:37 < keinek_> good 00:37 < jsaw> yep 00:37 < keinek_> http://www.letterjames.de/index.html 00:37 < keinek_> i that page you can make you pictures with any text. 00:37 < keinek_> is a funny web page :P 00:38 < jsaw> hehe, yes 00:39 < jsaw> have you seen my t2 logo example? 00:40 < keinek_> the puzzle? 00:40 < keinek_> i saw two samples 00:40 < keinek_> one like a puzzle 00:40 < keinek_> and 00:40 < keinek_> one like a "B project" :P 00:40 < jsaw> one could call it a puzzle, yes, the circular letter forms 00:41 < jsaw> as valentin called it :) 00:41 < keinek_> :) 00:41 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek 00:41 < jsaw> so, it's too hard to read...? 00:43 < keinek> is pretty 00:43 < keinek> but yes... i like a "b" 00:43 < jsaw> hmmm.... 00:43 < keinek> if the T and 2 have more space between 00:44 < keinek> i think that look very well 00:45 < keinek> hahaha i will delete the package directly from the file packages 00:46 < jsaw> well, that might not work always 00:47 < jsaw> rather do "echo O clisp > config/$config/pkgsel ; ./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig 00:48 < keinek> interesting 00:48 < jsaw> interesting? 00:48 < keinek> but i will detele all that i dont like me 00:48 < keinek> by hand :) 00:48 < keinek> with midnight commander 00:49 < keinek> interesting... a good idea 00:50 < jsaw> hmmm... I've never seen Charlotte sleeping more than 3h in row. (she's sleeping right beside me while I'm typing and watching TV) 00:51 < jsaw> well, never... never in 3 weeks hehe 00:52 < keinek> hehe 00:52 < keinek> and where is mnemoc_ ? 00:53 < keinek> ok... i was hack the packege file 00:53 < keinek> and... was work! 00:53 < keinek> work fine! 00:53 < keinek> :D 00:53 < keinek> i delete gnome packages 00:53 < jsaw> yes it does, but once Config is run again, your changes will disappear 00:54 < jsaw> this might even happen if you run svn up 00:54 < keinek> oh shit! 00:54 < keinek> ok 00:54 < keinek> i will backup that file 00:55 < jsaw> I don't know the logic exactly, but ./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig is run from inside Build-Target when updates are found 00:55 < keinek> yesterday i saw that the generic minimalistic dont have rock-plug 00:55 < keinek> this is very bad 00:55 < jsaw> that's not bad, that's plain wrong :p 00:56 < jsaw> please send a bug report 00:56 < keinek> ok 00:56 < keinek> now the build-target continue in the stage 5 00:56 < keinek> i have errors buts... is funny 00:57 < keinek> is the only way that i will learn 00:57 < jsaw> yeah... that I know well... 01:08 < mnemoc_> keinek: clisp is broken, you should not build it 01:08 < jsaw> hi mnemoc_ 01:08 < c4y0> im back! 01:08 < c4y0> hi! 01:08 < c4y0> =) 01:08 < jsaw> hi c4y0 01:08 < mnemoc_> hi jsaw, c4y0 :) 01:09 < keinek> yeah... i think that 15 hours in the sema package are too much time 01:09 < keinek> i will learn so much make it 01:10 < keinek> i was delete packages from the config file package. 01:10 < keinek> i hope that this work 01:10 < mnemoc_> on a modern machine, nothing takes more than two hours to build 01:10 < jsaw> .oO(ooo) 01:10 < c4y0> if i loaded the netcard module and apparently work fine, wy cant see the dhcp server? 01:10 < mnemoc_> jsaw: that doesn't build :) 01:10 < keinek> open office work well? 01:11 < jsaw> if it compiles... it takes ages 01:11 < mnemoc_> keinek: don't touch config/$config/packages by hand 01:11 < keinek> too late 01:11 < keinek> but... that work very well for my 01:11 < mnemoc_> keinek: that file is generated 01:11 < jsaw> mnemoc_: I already told him 01:11 < keinek> yes jsaw told me that 01:11 < keinek> but... 01:11 < keinek> you know me ;) 01:11 < mnemoc_> jsaw: he is from argentina, they don't know to listen :) 01:11 < jsaw> :D 01:12 < keinek> i dont found clisp with config... so... 01:12 < mnemoc_> :) 01:12 < keinek> :D 01:12 < jsaw> <- lol 01:12 < mnemoc_> keinek: Config -> Expert -> Package Selection -> '- clisp' 01:12 < mnemoc_> jsaw: :) 01:13 < keinek> ok... but when i have to compile, the directory will chage? 01:13 < keinek> appear expert 01:13 < keinek> and will start from begining 01:13 < keinek> i that correct? 01:14 < mnemoc_> keinek: moving your old build/foo- to the new location is enough 01:14 < keinek> ok 01:14 < keinek> i think that 01:14 < CIA-9> jsaw * r7449 /trunk/misc/target/ (README functions src/linuxrc.c): 01:14 < CIA-9> * hardware detection should run before trying to access cdrom 01:14 < CIA-9> (but it's not implemented yet, so... doesn't matter really) 01:14 < CIA-9> * more work on target functions 01:14 < CIA-9> work-in-progress... 01:15 < keinek> but ... now. 01:15 < keinek> is work fine 01:15 < keinek> but if i enter to config, my fix by hand will disappear right? 01:15 < keinek> so... 01:16 < keinek> i will backup my package files :P 01:17 < mnemoc_> jsaw: do you plan to use misc/target on 2.1? 01:17 < keinek> i forget something. 01:17 < keinek> ok... clisp dont work 01:17 < keinek> but... 01:17 < keinek> what the fu** do that in the sysmte? 01:17 < keinek> system* 01:18 < mnemoc_> what is 'system'? 01:18 < keinek> with the build target when i will run in the system 01:18 < keinek> without clisp 01:18 < jsaw> mnemoc_: I just continue playing around with the distcd target... but I think I have implemented a few funny things making even livecd target creation easy 01:18 < keinek> what class of package is clisp? 01:18 < mnemoc_> keinek: lisp is a language 01:19 < keinek> ok... 01:19 < keinek> is like perl? 01:19 < mnemoc_> some how yes 01:19 < keinek> ok 01:19 < mnemoc_> jsaw will fix it one of this days 01:19 < mnemoc_> *g* 01:19 < keinek> ok 01:20 < CIA-9> jsaw * r7450 /trunk/target/distcd/ (arch/ build.sh initrd.cfg isolinux/ rootfs/): 01:20 < CIA-9> * more playing around with the distcd target 01:20 < CIA-9> work-in-progress 01:21 < mnemoc_> :D 01:21 < CIA-9> jsaw * r7451 /trunk/package/develop/clisp/clisp.conf: * blind try to fix clisp 01:21 < jsaw> mnemoc_: could you svn up and test clisp? 01:22 < mnemoc_> ok 01:22 < mnemoc_> enqueued 01:30 < CIA-9> amery * r7452 /trunk/package/database/postgresql-autodoc/postgresql-autodoc.conf: * fixed postgresql-autodoc by using pkgprefix to detect postgresql 01:42 -!- Ken|JLimeX [~Ken@h72n2fls34o1105.telia.com] has joined #t2 01:43 -!- Ken|JLime [~Ken@h72n2fls34o1105.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:44 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.75.68.67] has quit ["BitchX-1.0c20cvs -- just do it."] 01:44 < mnemoc_> anyone have a good xpdfrc to share with me? :( 01:45 < jsaw> I use acro 7 now... 01:45 < mnemoc_> :\ 01:53 -!- Ken|JLime [~Ken@h72n2fls34o1105.telia.com] has joined #t2 01:54 -!- Ken|JLimeX [~Ken@h72n2fls34o1105.telia.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:11 < jsaw> need sleep, cu all 02:11 < mnemoc_> cu jsaw 02:11 -!- ideal [~idealm_@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 02:12 < ideal> morning 02:16 < mnemoc_> hi ideal :) 02:26 < ideal> hi mnemoc_:) 03:00 < CIA-9> amery * r7453 /trunk/package/develop/pwlib/pwlib.conf: * fixed pwlib by using pkgprefix 03:04 < CIA-9> amery * r7454 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby-postgres/ruby-postgres.conf: * fixed ruby-postgres by rewritting it's config without a custmain, and using pkgprefix. 03:05 < mnemoc_> gnomemeeting 1.2.1 needs a not yet released version of pwlib and openh323 :( 03:40 < mnemoc_> == 03/16/05 22:40:29 =[5]=> Finished building package gnomemeeting. :D 03:43 < CIA-9> amery * r7455 /trunk/package/mail/ezmlm/ (ezmlm.conf ezmlm.desc log_h.patch): 03:43 < CIA-9> * fixed ezmlm 03:43 < CIA-9> * unflagged ezmlm as NOPARALLEL because it builds without it 03:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7456 /trunk/package/mail/ezmlm/ (ezmlm.conf ezmlm.desc): * changed ezmlm to optional because it requires qmail which is optional 03:49 < CIA-9> amery * r7457 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnomemeeting/ (gnomemeeting.conf old_h323.patch): 03:49 < CIA-9> * fixed gnomemeeting, it required a not yet released version of pwlib and openh323. 03:49 < CIA-9> * fixed gnomemeeting by grouping openldap dependency properly 03:51 < CIA-9> amery * r7458 /trunk/package/security/qt-qca-tls/qt-qca-tls.desc: * changed [U] and download location for qt-qca-tls 03:52 -!- mtr__ [~michael@Haacd.h.pppool.de] has joined #t2 03:54 < mnemoc_> hi mtr__ 03:57 -!- mtr_ [~michael@Hb090.h.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:13 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-192-165.prtc.net] has joined #t2 04:15 < CIA-9> amery * r7459 /trunk/package/graphic/libtiff/libtiff.desc: * updated libtiff (3.7.1 -> 3.7.2) 04:16 < CIA-9> amery * r7460 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.1.5 -> 2.2.1) 04:41 < CIA-9> amery * r7461 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Mail/ (MTA.qmail.choice MTA.vmailmgr.choice): * added ezmlm to qmail and vmailmgr plugins of mnemosyne 04:56 * mnemoc_ downloading the kde 3.4.0 cow 06:09 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-192-165.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:12 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.135.3] has joined #t2 06:27 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.201.49.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 06:27 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | @CeBIT Hall 6 H30-532 06:27 -!- Topic set by ao [] [Wed Mar 16 09:21:34 2005] 06:27 [Users #t2] 06:27 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 06:27 [ CIA-9 ] [ keinek ] [ mtr__ ] [ rxr_ ] 06:27 [ ideal ] [ Ken|JLime] [ nzg ] [ sparc-kly_] 06:27 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 06:27 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 06:27 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 06:28 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 06:33 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.200.159.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:16 < rxr_> re 08:16 -!- You're now known as rxr 08:17 < rxr> so /me back home ... 08:54 -!- madtux [~mike@65.182.14.165] has joined #t2 08:54 < madtux> good day. 08:54 < rxr> hi madtux ! 08:54 < rxr> how was your germany trip ? 08:55 < _Ragnar__> hey :) 08:55 < madtux> rxr i got shot... i got off the hospital on monday. 08:55 < _Ragnar__> O_O 08:55 < madtux> hi _Ragnar__ 08:55 < _Ragnar__> we don't usually do that in germany! 08:55 < madtux> i couldn't make it to germany. 08:55 < _Ragnar__> unless you're left wing alternative or punk that is 08:56 < madtux> that was in my own hometown 08:56 < _Ragnar__> are you okay? 08:56 < madtux> recovering my friend 08:56 < _Ragnar__> good 08:56 < _Ragnar__> how'd it happen? 08:57 < madtux> went to the market late at night to do some final shopping day before my departure 08:57 < madtux> just happened to go in as a robery was taking place 08:58 < rxr> madtux: you got shot ??? 08:58 < madtux> just was at the wrong place at the wrong time. 08:58 < madtux> but i'm ok. 08:58 < rxr> oh my ... 08:58 < rxr> poor madtux ... 08:58 < madtux> just got to take it for a whole lifting heavy stuff 08:58 < madtux> and stuff like that you know.. 08:59 < madtux> rxr don't worry buddie... you will still have to deal with me for a LONG time 08:59 < _Ragnar__> where do you live? 08:59 < madtux> _Ragnar__, costa rica 08:59 < _Ragnar__> ooh okay 09:00 < rxr> well - getting in some robbery with shooting can also heppn in germany ... 09:00 < madtux> rxr, sorry i didn't let you know sooner.. i just didn;t really wanted to scare people so i only told the people that REALLY had to know 09:00 < madtux> rxr, its something unexpected you know.. its not normal... but hey shit can happen 09:03 < madtux> how are things around here? 09:03 < rxr> busy .. 09:03 < madtux> rxr, good... hey you guys are going for PDA now? 09:03 < rxr> last week on the CeBIT ... - and now learning for exams urgently ... 09:04 < rxr> sure - T2 is the embedded Linux base ... 09:04 < _Ragnar__> good luck on them 09:04 < madtux> rxr, i just bought an HP IPAQ rx3115 to play 09:04 < rxr> go go ! 09:04 < madtux> so hey wish me luck :) 09:04 < madtux> _Ragnar__, thx 09:27 -!- ao [~ao@p5081E5EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 09:28 < ao> Good Morning! So valentin & Co. came home safely. :) 09:28 < rxr> hi ao 09:36 -!- madtux [~mike@65.182.14.165] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:53 < valentin> moin 09:53 < valentin> ao: yep 09:58 < rxr> moin valentin 09:58 [Users #t2] 09:58 [ _Ragnar__] [ ideal ] [ Ken|JLime] [ nzg ] [ valentin] 09:58 [ ao ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc_ ] [ rxr ] 09:58 [ CIA-9 ] [ keinek] [ mtr__ ] [ sparc-kly_] 09:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 10:00 < rxr> hm - regarding my laser printers fill display the K toner is already nearly 50% empty ... 10:04 < rxr> does anyone tried to undelete files on reiserfs so far ? 10:07 < rxr> did 10:14 < ideal> rxr: Is there any utilities about undeleting files on reiserfs? I once tried to look for it, but failed. 10:16 < valentin> rxr: what is K toner ? 10:18 < rxr> black 10:18 < rxr> cymk ... 10:19 < valentin> oh 10:19 < valentin> rxr: was the printer turned on ? 10:20 < rxr> no - off 10:21 < valentin> puh.... 10:45 -!- keinek [~Keinek@201.254.13.153] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:24 -!- ideal [~idealm_@211.100.227.107] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:47 < valentin> some more pictures from the cebit (contain some random camera tests and photographs of other booths) 12:47 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/ 12:47 < valentin> still copying 12:48 < valentin> rxr will create a gallery if you do not want to pull theese big versions 12:56 < rxr> yes - I'll inject them to the usual gallery 12:56 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/PICT0056.JPG 12:56 < rxr> ,-) 13:56 -!- ao [~ao@p5081E5EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20050105]"] 14:32 < mnemoc_> moin 14:33 < valentin> moin mnemoc_ 14:33 < mnemoc_> moin valentin 14:33 < mnemoc_> anyone else working on kde update? 14:48 < rxr> kde update ? to what? 14:48 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ 14:49 < mnemoc_> 3.4.0 14:50 < mnemoc_> hi rene :) 14:50 < rxr> mnemoc_: oh 14:50 < rxr> just commit it - and I do the i18n fixing ... 14:52 < mnemoc_> i'm still downloading, so no checksums 14:52 < mnemoc_> do i commit? 14:52 < mnemoc_> the updated [D]s and [V]s 14:52 < mnemoc_> :p 14:54 < rxr> yeah - do so ... 14:54 < mnemoc_> ok 14:56 < CIA-9> amery * r7462 /trunk/package/kde/ (23 files in 23 dirs): (log message trimmed) 14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kdegames (3.4.0-rc1 -> 3.4.0) 14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kdebindings (3.4.0-rc1 -> 3.4.0) 14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kde-i18n-es (050308 -> 3.4.0) 14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kde-i18n-it (050308 -> 3.4.0) 14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kdeaddons (3.4.0-rc1 -> 3.4.0) 14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kde-i18n-de (050308 -> 3.4.0) 15:02 < mnemoc_> rxr: i'm using this translation: s,^ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/,ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/kde/, but you may want to use leo i guess 15:09 < valentin> what the heck is it the csu binary does in the glibc ? 15:09 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 rene users 1722792 2005-03-17 15:09 t2.log 15:10 < rxr> the whole t2 log hisotory -^ 15:10 < valentin> rxr: including rock stuff ? 15:10 < mnemoc_> i have 4 years of logs here :) 15:11 < valentin> oh, sorry csu is no binary 15:11 < mnemoc_> and 9 years of emails 15:12 < CIA-9> amery * r7463 /trunk/package/kde/ (7 files in 7 dirs): * added checksums for arts kdegames kdebindings kdeaddons kdeadmin kdegraphics kdeaccessibility 15:12 < mnemoc_> du -sch irclogs/freenode/200*/#t2* 15:12 < mnemoc_> 2,2M total 15:12 < mnemoc_> on daily bz2 chunks 15:18 < rxr> so - Mika's commit messages prettified .. 15:19 < rxr> space inserted ... 15:19 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/ChangeLog-t2 15:20 < mnemoc_> :) 15:20 < mnemoc_> did you reviewed CopyPatch? 15:20 < rxr> no - ... 15:20 * rxr back to math learning .. 15:21 < mnemoc_> :( 15:21 < mnemoc_> when cebit ends? 15:21 < rxr> ended ... 15:21 < mnemoc_> .oO 15:28 < rxr> .oO? 15:30 < mnemoc_> nothing, just that we wnated rc1 released there 15:30 < jsaw> re 15:30 < jsaw> mnemoc_: clisp? 15:31 < mnemoc_> uhm... mom 15:31 < CIA-9> amery * r7464 /trunk/package/kde/ (7 files in 7 dirs): * added checksums for kde-i18n-es, kde-i18n-de, kdepim, kdeartwork, kdetoys, kdeutils and kdesdk 15:32 < mnemoc_> jsaw: it wasn't reescheduled :\ .... i'm forcing it right now 15:33 < mnemoc_> == 10:33:40 =[5]=> Building develop/clisp [2.33.2 2.1.0-rc1]. 15:36 < mnemoc_> http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/PICT0012.JPG <--- what is he watching??! 15:39 < valentin> who ? the gui in the ximian shirt ? 15:39 < mnemoc_> yep, look at his face 15:40 < mnemoc_> jsaw: == 03/17/05 10:40:39 =[5]=> Finished building package clisp. 15:40 < mnemoc_> jsaw: thank you :) 15:40 < jsaw> oh 15:40 < valentin> perhaps he just found out his banking account was fished 15:40 < valentin> s/f/ph 15:40 < mnemoc_> jsaw: i'll test if maxima builds now 15:40 < mnemoc_> valentin: :D 15:42 < valentin> anyone here with years of experience in glibc makefiles ? (i mean, besides rxr) 15:42 < CIA-9> jsaw * r7465 /trunk/package/develop/clisp/clisp.conf: 15:42 < CIA-9> * only remove an empty line, so that this is logged: 15:42 < CIA-9> previous changes partially based on gentoo 15:43 < mnemoc_> valentin: ulrich :) 15:43 < jsaw> :p 15:45 < valentin> s/anyone/a serious persion/ 15:45 < valentin> person even 15:45 < mnemoc_> valentin: why there was old people on kde booth? 15:45 < mnemoc_> valentin: none :) 15:46 < valentin> i know, you must be odd to look at that sh... 15:46 < valentin> but i am doing right now 15:46 < valentin> old people ? what picture 15:46 < mnemoc_> you may loose your sanity 15:47 < mnemoc_> jsaw: == 03/17/05 10:48:11 =[5]=> Finished building package maxima. :D 15:47 < jsaw> :D 15:47 < mnemoc_> valentin: http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/PICT0015.JPG 15:48 < mnemoc_> valentin: one young, and three old 15:51 < rxr> if you wait a few minutes, you can browse a gallery with my pics ... 15:51 < rxr> I just copy the files from the valentin dir with my photos CD content to my real gallery ... 15:52 < CIA-9> amery * r7466 /trunk/package/kde/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * added more checksums for kde. (kdelevelop, kde-i18n-fr, kdebase and kdewebdev) 15:52 < valentin> mnemoc_: the leftmost person is some official kde guy 15:52 < valentin> we complained to him that kde looks ugly ,) 15:53 < mnemoc_> :D e17 rules 15:53 < valentin> he told us 4.0 will look better 15:53 < valentin> and they want to exchange this ugly draggon 15:55 < mnemoc_> draggon? 15:55 < mnemoc_> jsaw: if you get another minute, efsd has Makefile.in.in and autoconf doesn't convert it :\ 15:55 < valentin> the kde mascot 15:56 < jsaw> mnemoc_: actually not, have to run to see the doctor in a few minutes, remind me later :) 15:57 < mnemoc_> jsaw: ok, good luck 15:57 < rxr> mnemoc_: next week I'll also be back to bug fixing .. 15:58 < rxr> but I may fix gnome 2.10 and kde-i18n-* over the weekend .. 15:58 < rxr> gnome 2.10 does compile but still not run properly ... - icons mostly missing .. 15:58 < mnemoc_> rxr: can you review the CopyPatch to release rc1? 15:58 < jsaw> cu later 15:58 < mnemoc_> rxr: i think we can keep current as our stable base 15:59 < rxr> you want to have -rc1 soon now ? 15:59 < mnemoc_> i wanted on cebit :p 15:59 < mnemoc_> ok, i wait 15:59 < rxr> well - I wanted to do the final rocknet and intt code move to /sbin/s.th. or so ... 15:59 < rxr> mnemoc_: does the postinstall and install_cron stuff work as expected? 15:59 < rxr> I hao 15:59 < mnemoc_> ic 15:59 < rxr> ve not tested it ... 16:00 < mnemoc_> i had to patch install_cron 16:00 < rxr> and we need to patch the stone stuff to run postinstall.d/* during installation ... 16:00 < mnemoc_> but seems to work 16:00 < mnemoc_> if you have a minute, can you add that to your todo on the wiki? 16:01 < mnemoc_> rxr: considering i'll have more time until rc1 i guess i'll change .cron and .init installation into 'magic' 16:01 < mnemoc_> rxr: from misc/tail/ i guess 16:02 < CIA-9> amery * r7467 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * updated fox (1.4.6 -> 1.4.8) 16:02 < rxr> magic ? 16:02 < mnemoc_> automatic 16:02 < mnemoc_> if they are present, they get installed 16:03 < rxr> hm 16:03 < rxr> yeah - do so ... 16:03 < rxr> hm - my mouse vanished ... 16:03 * rxr mouse where are you ... 16:03 < mnemoc_> hehe 16:04 < rxr> ah - there it it was hidden .. 16:04 < rxr> never leave them alone that long ... 16:05 < mnemoc_> 3.4.0 test build started 16:05 < mnemoc_> rxr: btw, mtr fixed all the kde-i18n shares 16:07 < valentin> # blah 16:08 < valentin> ^- nice comment by drepper 16:08 < mnemoc_> :D 16:08 < valentin> from ...glibc-2.3.4/elf/rtld-Rules 16:09 < rxr> mnemoc_: how do you build the i18n without unsermake ? 16:09 < CIA-9> amery * r7468 /trunk/package/kde/ (5 files in 5 dirs): * last kde checksums (kde-i18n-it, kdelibs, kdemultimedia, kdeedu, kdenetwork) 16:09 < mnemoc_> updating it 16:09 < mnemoc_> rxr: 050308 used gnu make 16:09 < rxr> aha ... 16:10 < mnemoc_> == 03/17/05 11:11:11 =[5]=> Finished building package arts. 16:10 < mnemoc_> (1.4.0) 16:11 < mnemoc_> i love this framework :p 16:11 < rxr> I wanted to sed all the preconf= and co to hook_add and remove the old style preconf and co evaluation during 5 16:11 < rxr> do I have your ok for tha ? 16:11 < rxr> would do so right now if yes ... 16:11 < mnemoc_> yes 16:11 < mnemoc_> only real hooks 16:11 < mnemoc_> no hookname="blah" 16:11 < rxr> ack 16:12 < rxr> I do so ... 16:13 < mnemoc_> btw, i wanted gcc-options as gcc-options.in as part of the filename standarization 16:14 < rxr> wanted or wnat ? 16:14 < rxr> want even .. 16:15 < mnemoc_> want 16:16 < mnemoc_> in spanish we use past when 'we have been thinking in' :) 16:16 < rxr> rename it ,-) 16:16 < mnemoc_> and we great in participle :p how have you been? 16:16 < rxr> do not forget the new sh* ones ;-) 16:16 < mnemoc_> greet* 16:16 < mnemoc_> rxr: yes 16:18 < mnemoc_> rxr: a name for dropbear's scp? dropbear_scp? 16:19 < rxr> I would not alter the names at all - and do not feel comfortable with the ssh option ... 16:19 < rxr> if a target - e.g. the pda one - would liek to tweak them, it could do so customly ... 16:20 < mnemoc_> so, dropbear optional package? 16:20 < rxr> no ... !? 16:20 < rxr> by default it installs to 16:20 < mnemoc_> nope 16:20 < rxr> dorbear and dbclient or so ... 16:20 < CIA-9> rene * r7469 /trunk/package/ (35 files in 35 dirs): * substituted preconf= to hook_add preconf 5 16:20 < mnemoc_> [P] X -----5---9 191.100 16:21 < rxr> dropbear: usr/bin/dbclient 16:21 < rxr> dropbear: usr/sbin/dropbear 16:21 < rxr> what is the problem with that ? 16:21 < mnemoc_> scp 16:21 < mnemoc_> shares with openssh's 16:21 < rxr> not here - maybe someone enabled the optional scp ... 16:21 < rxr> just install it as dbscp I think ... 16:22 < rxr> and let targets tweak it as ssh replacement if needed ... 16:22 < mnemoc_> ok 16:22 < mnemoc_> r7386 | chris | 2005-03-13 10:19:42 -0400 (Sun, 13 Mar 2005) | 2 lines 16:22 < mnemoc_> * added dropbear client only option and config help 16:23 < rxr> btw I pushed our mplyer and scribus patches upstream during cebit .. 16:24 < mnemoc_> :) 16:24 < mnemoc_> PR PR PR 16:26 < rxr> valentin promoted us to the superh folks and we in general pushed it to the gpe (gtk+ based handheld environment) folks 16:26 < mnemoc_> how did they take it? 16:27 < rxr> well - need to take a look 16:27 < rxr> openembedded strangely gained some market share ... 16:27 < rxr> we need to review it ... 16:27 < rxr> too bad the creators missed t2 ... 16:30 < CIA-9> rene * r7470 /trunk/package/ (119 files in 119 dirs): * substituted *make= to hook_add *make 5 ... 16:30 < mnemoc_> are you reviewing the diffs of those? 16:32 < rxr> yes - scrolled over them ... 16:33 < rxr> I'm not sure if some contructs created work with bash - but we'll see ... 16:38 < rxr> mnemoc_: do you see defects ? 16:40 < CIA-9> rene * r7471 /trunk/package/ (16 files in 16 dirs): 16:40 < CIA-9> * substituted the remaining (postdoc,prepatch,postinstall) to 16:40 < CIA-9> hook_add * 5 ... 16:41 < mnemoc_> rxr: i have reviewed it 16:41 < mnemoc_> haven't* 16:42 < mnemoc_> svn diff -r 7468:7471 16:42 < mnemoc_> err 16:43 < CIA-9> rene * r7472 /trunk/scripts/functions: * removed old-style and obsolete hook variable evaluation 16:44 < mnemoc_> rxr: package/network/fping/fping.conf, not defect but wrong from before 16:48 < rxr> IIRC fping lookged inteed quite ugly ... 16:49 < rxr> hm - ugly - but wrong? I don't think so - why do you think is wrong ? 16:49 < mnemoc_> mailx patching is obsolete too 16:49 < mnemoc_> politicly wrong :) 16:49 < mnemoc_> not technicly wrong 16:49 < rxr> ok - I polish fping 16:50 < mnemoc_> .oO( there can be hookname=blah on .desc ) 16:51 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/ 16:51 < rxr> mnemoc_: ack - I grep 16:52 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/thumbs/high-PICT0037.JPG 16:53 < mnemoc_> are those the same than http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/? 16:53 < rxr> yep 16:53 < mnemoc_> chile :D 16:53 < rxr> just with the gallery surrounded ... 16:53 < rxr> and with the ones I took with my farther's camera ... 16:54 < mnemoc_> without 'customers' :( 16:54 < mnemoc_> amazing camara 16:54 < valentin> __udivsi3_i4 should be a libgcc function 16:54 < rxr> valentin: good to know ... 16:54 < rxr> valentin: any idea why it is not in it ? 16:54 < valentin> nope 16:54 < rxr> maybe it (the lib) is not used because some t2 toolchain utilization issue ? 16:54 < rxr> or is it not in the lib? 16:55 < valentin> i try to find out 16:55 < rxr> due to t2 configuring gcc in some sub-optimal way ? 16:55 < valentin> may be 16:55 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/thumbs/high-PICT0038.JPG 16:55 < rxr> ^- mnemoc_ 16:55 < valentin> __udivdi* are glibc generated functions for wordsize-32 16:55 < CIA-9> rene * r7473 /trunk/package/network/fping/fping.conf: * prettified fping 16:55 < valentin> so i was searching for half of the day where theese came from 16:56 < rxr> mnemoc_: all the PICT* pictures are from a Minolta 8 mega pxiel camera we borrowed - the others are from my farthers aging Canon Ixus 3 or so ... 16:56 < rxr> glibc or gcc ? 16:57 < valentin> i like that one: http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/thumbs/med-PICT0033.JPG 16:57 < valentin> rxr: glibc 16:57 < mnemoc_> o_O 16:58 < rxr> valentin: when it is libc - why should it be in libgcc ... ? 16:58 < rxr> valentin: What do I get wrong ? 16:59 < valentin> so: 16:59 < valentin> there is sysdeps/wordsize-32/divdi3.c 16:59 < CIA-9> rene * r7474 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: 16:59 < CIA-9> * substituted *= to hook_add * 5 in the only .desc file doing it in 16:59 < CIA-9> [O] (AFAICS) 16:59 < valentin> exporting symbols like __*divdi3_{internal}@glibc 16:59 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFBDC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 16:59 < jeru> moin 17:00 < mnemoc_> rxr: don't forget the documentation :p 17:00 < valentin> but there are __*div* symbols defined in libgcc, too 17:00 < valentin> for example i have on ppc: 17:00 < valentin> 00000000 T __divdi3 17:00 < valentin> 00000004 T __divsf3 17:00 < valentin> 00000004 T __divdf3 17:01 < jeru> hi mnemoc, valentin, rxr, jsaw, ... 17:01 < valentin> hi jeru 17:01 < mnemoc_> hi jeru 17:03 < valentin> rxr: in my sh4 build's libgcc i got some __udivsi3 17:03 < valentin> but the __udivsi3_i4 is missing 17:03 < jeru> mnemoc: regarding grsec issue ... gradm make install checks for /dev/grsec ... so should I patch the Makefile to remove the check or do we've another solution? 17:03 < mnemoc_> rxr: +hook_add preconf 5 "aclocal ; autoconf ; automake --add-missing" <--- autogen=1 ? 17:03 < valentin> according to some superh people it should be there for sh4 processors 17:04 < mnemoc_> jeru: patch the Makefile :) 17:04 < jeru> already done ;) 17:04 < mnemoc_> :) 17:05 < rxr> mnemoc_: hehe 17:06 < mnemoc_> http://www.furnitureporn.com/furnporn1.html :) 17:10 < rxr> mnemoc_: nope - autogen=1 does not do enough to fix fping to build ... 17:10 < rxr> just tested 17:10 < mnemoc_> :( 17:11 < CIA-9> amery * r7475 /trunk/Documentation/Developers/PKG-BUILD-VARS: * removed pre hook era variables from PKG-BUILD-VARS doc 17:12 < valentin> me taking a shower 17:15 < CIA-9> rene * r7476 /trunk/scripts/functions: 17:15 < CIA-9> * initialize the hook variables - otherwise the current construct will 17:15 < CIA-9> not work 17:16 < mnemoc_> :) 17:16 < mnemoc_> nice regression 17:17 < jeru> :) 17:18 < mnemoc_> .oO( we should have tagged beta4 before today 'games' )o 17:19 < jeru> mnemoc: do you know ldapdns (see: http://www.nimh.org/code/ldapdns/ ) ? 17:20 < mnemoc_> yes, but i have never used it 17:21 < jeru> will give it a try and checking what perfomce it has compared to tinydns ;) 17:21 < mnemoc_> :) 17:22 < mnemoc_> dnsldap 2 or 3? 17:22 < jeru> first will try stable version 2 17:23 < mnemoc_> uhm version 3 looks abandoned 17:23 < mnemoc_> only ldapdhcp is missing :( 17:24 < jeru> hmmm ... it looks so ... but version 2 seems to be activly maintained .. at least the author answers ;) 17:25 < mnemoc_> :) 17:25 < mnemoc_> that's a good sign 17:25 < jeru> mnemoc: yeah ... some ldap enabled DHCP server would be nice 17:26 < mnemoc_> some non-isc ldap enabled DHCP server 17:26 < jeru> of course ;) 17:27 < jeru> mnemoc: ldapdns could be an alternative because it's fully GPL'ed 17:27 < mnemoc_> i would be happy updating ldap from dhcp, no need to read leases from there 17:27 < mnemoc_> jeru: yes 17:27 < jeru> yep :| 17:27 < mnemoc_> tinydns might get an option to build client only 17:28 < jeru> hehe :) 17:28 < mnemoc_> :) 17:29 < mnemoc_> tests builds of the kde cow are demotivating :\ 17:29 < CIA-9> rene * r7477 /trunk/scripts/functions: 17:29 < CIA-9> * added check if a hook is filled during evaluation so we do not need 17:29 < CIA-9> the empty initializations ... 17:29 < mnemoc_> :) 17:30 < rxr> do not smile before you see the hack ... ,-) 17:30 < mnemoc_> uhm 17:30 < mnemoc_> do i want to see the hack? 17:31 < rxr> it is tiny - but just a hack ... 17:32 < mnemoc_> pushing kde to my mirror is melting my bw 17:34 < mnemoc_> it's not a hack, it's /robustness/ 17:46 < rxr> XFCE 4.2.1 was released today. 17:47 < mnemoc_> oh 17:48 < rxr> mnemoc_: you update I guess? 17:49 < rxr> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,2000061733,39184947,00.htm 17:49 < mnemoc_> my bw is melted, i would need to wait some hours 17:50 < rxr> Companies accused of violating the GPL 17:51 < mnemoc_> time out :( 18:10 < mnemoc_> xfce updated, let's download :) 18:11 < jeru> hehe :) 18:18 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/regressions.html 18:30 < valentin> re 18:32 < rxr> rehi valentin 18:35 < valentin> someone on #linux-sh said sth about a patch for libgcc, but i got the feeling he has not realy an idea - i think it is the way we build that gcc stuff 18:38 < rxr> I think, too 18:38 < rxr> we also have other regressions in the cross gcc area introduced sometime like 1 and 1/2 years ago ... 18:38 < rxr> just take a look when gcc should do what ... 18:39 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <-- new official location :p ... i'll add href links to .err files in some minutes 18:47 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html :D 18:47 < mnemoc_> simple but usefull 18:48 < mnemoc_> just if anyone is interested in helping to fix broken packages ;) 18:48 < mnemoc_> i'll go to the bank now 18:48 < mnemoc_> cu 18:49 < mnemoc_> it can be slow because i haven't finished uploading kde stuff 18:49 * valentin away again - cu in some h 18:52 < valentin> cu 18:53 < rxr> cu valentin 18:55 < _Ragnar__> cy 19:20 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:20 < Minto> Moin 19:24 < rxr> oh - hi Minto ! 20:36 < rxr> http://prex.sourceforge.net/ 20:37 < rxr> an open source initiative to provide a portable real-time operating system for embedded systems 20:38 < CIA-9> rene * r7478 /trunk/package/x11/gtkpod/gtkpod.desc: * updated gtkpod (0.88 -> 0.88.1) 20:39 < rxr> we are off into bed - cu 20:46 < mnemoc_> re 20:51 < CIA-9> amery * r7479 /trunk/package/kde/ (35 files in 33 dirs): * renamed kde_config.sh to kde-conf.in 20:58 < CIA-9> amery * r7480 /trunk/package/audio/noteedit/ (noteedit.conf noteedit.desc): * changed noteedit to use kde-conf.in instead of kde_config.sh 21:02 < CIA-9> amery * r7481 /trunk/package/graphic/pixieplus/ (pixieplus.conf pixieplus.desc): * changed pixieplus to use kde-conf.in instead of kde_config.sh 21:14 < CIA-9> amery * r7482 /trunk/package/gnue/ (8 files in 6 dirs): * changed GNUe packages to use gnue-conf.in 21:23 < CIA-9> amery * r7483 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/ (java-conf.in java-config.in): * renamed java-config.in to java-conf.in 21:27 < CIA-9> amery * r7484 /trunk/package/java/apache-ant/ (. apache-ant.conf apache-ant.desc): * added apache-ant (1.6.2) 21:32 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.75.68.67] has joined #t2 21:32 < c4y0> hi 21:43 -!- sparc-kly_ [~mubex@64.237.135.212] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:48 < mnemoc_> hi c4y0 21:48 < jeru> hi c4y0> hi 21:48 < mnemoc_> hi jeru 21:48 < jeru> ah mnemoc ... you're back 21:48 < jeru> ;) 21:49 < mnemoc_> :) 21:49 < jeru> mnemoc: how are tail files handled ? 21:49 < mnemoc_> format? 21:49 < mnemoc_> or procedures? 21:50 < jeru> procedures 21:50 < mnemoc_> misc/tail/parse-config 21:50 < mnemoc_> http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?TailFormat 21:50 < mnemoc_> the idea is to 'compile' the script 21:51 < mnemoc_> tail2runit 21:51 < mnemoc_> tail2init 21:51 < mnemoc_> tail2sysvinit 21:51 < mnemoc_> tail2cron 21:51 < jeru> ah ok 21:52 < mnemoc_> i'll automatize .init and .cron installation first 21:52 < mnemoc_> then i'll create .tail files to replace them, keeping the output identical 21:53 < mnemoc_> but i haven't had enough time yet :\ 21:53 < jeru> have I to "register" an init file ? 21:53 < mnemoc_> currently yes 21:53 < jeru> where I have do this ? 21:53 < mnemoc_> but my idea is to autodetect the tail files 21:54 < mnemoc_> a sysv's init or runit? 21:54 < jeru> runit and sysv ;) 21:55 < jeru> but first runit 21:55 < mnemoc_> package/*/runit/packages/ 21:55 < jeru> I placed it there ... 21:55 < mnemoc_> yes 21:57 < jeru> and if I build package foo it will take out the needed information out of foo.tail to populate run scripts etc... 22:06 < mnemoc_> only for runit 22:06 < mnemoc_> currently 22:07 < mnemoc_> $pkg-$servicedir.tail 22:07 < mnemoc_> _s on $servicedir are replaced with /s 22:07 < mnemoc_> and they start on $sysconfdir 22:08 < mnemoc_> how are your sed knowledges? 22:11 < jeru> mnemoc: my sed knowledge is upgradable ;) 22:11 < jeru> but I think I figure it out finaly ;) 22:11 < mnemoc_> do you know how to add a line before the first match of a pattern? 22:13 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.135.212] has joined #t2 22:13 < jeru> mnemoc: it works now :) 22:13 < mnemoc_> :) 22:35 < c4y0> im back again 22:35 < c4y0> =) 22:39 < valentin> re 22:40 < mnemoc_> re valentin 22:45 < CIA-9> amery * r7485 /trunk/misc/archive/AuditBuild.sh: 22:45 < CIA-9> * improved AuditBuild.sh to detect added packages 22:45 < CIA-9> * improved AuditBuild.sh to render for error logs in html mode 22:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7486 /trunk/package/ (185 files in 183 dirs): * renamed gnome-2.conf to gnome2-conf.in 22:46 < mnemoc_> valentin: did you heard any re-review comment about CopyPatch from rene? 22:47 < mnemoc_> pre-review* 22:47 < valentin> you mean your Copyright stuff ? can't remember he said something... 22:49 < mnemoc_> he seems to be ignoring the topic and i would like to know why :\ 22:50 < mnemoc_> what time is it there? 22:52 < valentin> 22:52 22:52 < valentin> he went to bed or whatever 22:52 < valentin> i'll ask him when i phone him tomorow 22:58 < mnemoc_> i'm 5 hours before you... 22:58 < mnemoc_> when do you change TZ? 22:59 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- the last Create-ErrList -newdelete was agressive :( 23:00 < valentin> daylight saving ? ohm .... 23:00 < mnemoc_> yes 23:00 < valentin> 03-27-2005 23:00 < valentin> i hate that 23:01 < valentin> getting up one h earlyer in the morning 23:01 < valentin> btw: you are not before us, you are late 23:01 < valentin> :p 23:02 < mnemoc_> :( 23:11 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.66 [Mozilla rv:1.7.5/20041110]"] 23:29 < mnemoc_> .oO( i forgot to say thank you to valentin )o 23:35 < valentin> thank you for what ? 23:37 < mnemoc_> for the CopyPatch thing :) 23:37 < CIA-9> amery * r7487 /trunk/package/ (366 files in 184 dirs): * moved gnome2-conf.in source from .conf to .desc 23:43 < mnemoc_> my reference will almost start from zero now :\ 23:43 * mnemoc_ moving home 23:43 < mnemoc_> bbl 23:43 < mnemoc_> 1h 23:46 < valentin> cu 23:46 < valentin> i will go to sleep now 23:46 < valentin> gn8 --- Log closed Fri Mar 18 00:00:27 2005