--- Log opened Thu Mar 17 00:00:27 2005
00:31 < keinek_> hey guys
00:31 < keinek_> clisp remain much time in compile?
00:31 < jsaw> keinek_: funny pictures
00:32 < keinek_> thanks
00:32 < jsaw> keinek_: kill it, there's something wrong with clisp
00:32 < jsaw> keinek_: it hangs somewhere
00:32 < keinek_> you make you own images in that page o above
00:32 < keinek_> ok i kill clisp
00:32 < jsaw> ?
00:32 < keinek_> and when i run build again?
00:33 < jsaw> I don't think it'll work
00:34 < keinek_> ok how i can continue the build target if clisp is malfuction?
00:34 < jsaw> touch build/.../var/adm/logs/5-clisp.err
00:35 < jsaw> or run Config and deselect clisp
00:35 < keinek_> ok i got the second one.
00:36 < jsaw> what do you mean with "00:39 < keinek_> you make you own images in that page o above"
00:36 < jsaw> ?
00:36 < keinek_> oh, you can make this pictures
00:36 < keinek_> if you go to the page that appear in this images
00:37 < keinek_> you are german?
00:37 < jsaw> ic
00:37 < keinek_> good
00:37 < jsaw> yep
00:37 < keinek_> http://www.letterjames.de/index.html
00:37 < keinek_> i that page you can make you pictures with any text.
00:37 < keinek_> is a funny web page :P
00:38 < jsaw> hehe, yes
00:39 < jsaw> have you seen my t2 logo example?
00:40 < keinek_> the puzzle?
00:40 < keinek_> i saw two samples
00:40 < keinek_> one like a puzzle
00:40 < keinek_> and
00:40 < keinek_> one like a "B project" :P
00:40 < jsaw> one could call it a puzzle, yes, the circular letter forms
00:41 < jsaw> as valentin called it :)
00:41 < keinek_> :)
00:41 -!- keinek_ is now known as keinek
00:41 < jsaw> so, it's too hard to read...?
00:43 < keinek> is pretty
00:43 < keinek> but yes... i like a "b"
00:43 < jsaw> hmmm....
00:43 < keinek> if the T and 2 have more space between
00:44 < keinek> i think that look very well
00:45 < keinek> hahaha i will delete the package directly from the file packages
00:46 < jsaw> well, that might not work always
00:47 < jsaw> rather do "echo O clisp > config/$config/pkgsel ; ./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig
00:48 < keinek> interesting
00:48 < jsaw> interesting?
00:48 < keinek> but i will detele all that i dont like me
00:48 < keinek> by hand :)
00:48 < keinek> with midnight commander
00:49 < keinek> interesting... a good idea
00:50 < jsaw> hmmm... I've never seen Charlotte sleeping more than 3h in row. (she's sleeping right beside me while I'm typing and watching TV)
00:51 < jsaw> well, never... never in 3 weeks hehe
00:52 < keinek> hehe
00:52 < keinek> and where is mnemoc_ ?
00:53 < keinek> ok... i was hack the packege file
00:53 < keinek> and... was work!
00:53 < keinek> work fine!
00:53 < keinek> :D
00:53 < keinek> i delete gnome packages
00:53 < jsaw> yes it does, but once Config is run again, your changes will disappear
00:54 < jsaw> this might even happen if you run svn up
00:54 < keinek> oh shit!
00:54 < keinek> ok
00:54 < keinek> i will backup that file
00:55 < jsaw> I don't know the logic exactly, but ./scripts/Config -cfg $config -oldconfig is run from inside Build-Target when updates are found
00:55 < keinek> yesterday i saw that the generic minimalistic dont have rock-plug
00:55 < keinek> this is very bad
00:55 < jsaw> that's not bad, that's plain wrong :p
00:56 < jsaw> please send a bug report
00:56 < keinek> ok
00:56 < keinek> now the build-target continue in the stage 5
00:56 < keinek> i have errors buts... is funny
00:57 < keinek> is the only way that i will learn
00:57 < jsaw> yeah... that I know well...
01:08 < mnemoc_> keinek: clisp is broken, you should not build it
01:08 < jsaw> hi mnemoc_
01:08 < c4y0> im back!
01:08 < c4y0> hi!
01:08 < c4y0> =)
01:08 < jsaw> hi c4y0
01:08 < mnemoc_> hi jsaw, c4y0 :)
01:09 < keinek> yeah... i think that 15 hours in the sema package are too much time
01:09 < keinek> i will learn so much make it
01:10 < keinek> i was delete packages from the config file package.
01:10 < keinek> i hope that this work
01:10 < mnemoc_> on a modern machine, nothing takes more than two hours to build
01:10 < jsaw> .oO(ooo)
01:10 < c4y0> if i loaded the netcard module and apparently work fine, wy cant see the dhcp server?
01:10 < mnemoc_> jsaw: that doesn't build :)
01:10 < keinek> open office work well?
01:11 < jsaw> if it compiles... it takes ages
01:11 < mnemoc_> keinek: don't touch config/$config/packages by hand
01:11 < keinek> too late
01:11 < keinek> but... that work very well for my
01:11 < mnemoc_> keinek: that file is generated
01:11 < jsaw> mnemoc_: I already told him
01:11 < keinek> yes jsaw told me that
01:11 < keinek> but...
01:11 < keinek> you know me ;)
01:11 < mnemoc_> jsaw: he is from argentina, they don't know to listen :)
01:11 < jsaw> :D
01:12 < keinek> i dont found clisp with config... so...
01:12 < mnemoc_> :)
01:12 < keinek> :D
01:12 < jsaw> <- lol
01:12 < mnemoc_> keinek: Config -> Expert -> Package Selection -> '- clisp'
01:12 < mnemoc_> jsaw: :)
01:13 < keinek> ok... but when i have to compile, the directory will chage?
01:13 < keinek> appear expert
01:13 < keinek> and will start from begining
01:13 < keinek> i that correct?
01:14 < mnemoc_> keinek: moving your old build/foo- to the new location is enough
01:14 < keinek> ok
01:14 < keinek> i think that
01:14 < CIA-9> jsaw * r7449 /trunk/misc/target/ (README functions src/linuxrc.c):
01:14 < CIA-9> * hardware detection should run before trying to access cdrom
01:14 < CIA-9> (but it's not implemented yet, so... doesn't matter really)
01:14 < CIA-9> * more work on target functions
01:14 < CIA-9> work-in-progress...
01:15 < keinek> but ... now.
01:15 < keinek> is work fine
01:15 < keinek> but if i enter to config, my fix by hand will disappear right?
01:15 < keinek> so...
01:16 < keinek> i will backup my package files :P
01:17 < mnemoc_> jsaw: do you plan to use misc/target on 2.1?
01:17 < keinek> i forget something.
01:17 < keinek> ok... clisp dont work
01:17 < keinek> but...
01:17 < keinek> what the fu** do that in the sysmte?
01:17 < keinek> system*
01:18 < mnemoc_> what is 'system'?
01:18 < keinek> with the build target when i will run in the system
01:18 < keinek> without clisp
01:18 < jsaw> mnemoc_: I just continue playing around with the distcd target... but I think I have implemented a few funny things making even livecd target creation easy
01:18 < keinek> what class of package is clisp?
01:18 < mnemoc_> keinek: lisp is a language
01:19 < keinek> ok...
01:19 < keinek> is like perl?
01:19 < mnemoc_> some how yes
01:19 < keinek> ok
01:19 < mnemoc_> jsaw will fix it one of this days
01:19 < mnemoc_> *g*
01:19 < keinek> ok
01:20 < CIA-9> jsaw * r7450 /trunk/target/distcd/ (arch/ build.sh initrd.cfg isolinux/ rootfs/):
01:20 < CIA-9> * more playing around with the distcd target
01:20 < CIA-9> work-in-progress
01:21 < mnemoc_> :D
01:21 < CIA-9> jsaw * r7451 /trunk/package/develop/clisp/clisp.conf: * blind try to fix clisp
01:21 < jsaw> mnemoc_: could you svn up and test clisp?
01:22 < mnemoc_> ok
01:22 < mnemoc_> enqueued
01:30 < CIA-9> amery * r7452 /trunk/package/database/postgresql-autodoc/postgresql-autodoc.conf: * fixed postgresql-autodoc by using pkgprefix to detect postgresql
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01:44 < mnemoc_> anyone have a good xpdfrc to share with me? :(
01:45 < jsaw> I use acro 7 now...
01:45 < mnemoc_> :\
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02:11 < jsaw> need sleep, cu all
02:11 < mnemoc_> cu jsaw
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02:12 < ideal> morning
02:16 < mnemoc_> hi ideal :)
02:26 < ideal> hi mnemoc_:)
03:00 < CIA-9> amery * r7453 /trunk/package/develop/pwlib/pwlib.conf: * fixed pwlib by using pkgprefix
03:04 < CIA-9> amery * r7454 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby-postgres/ruby-postgres.conf: * fixed ruby-postgres by rewritting it's config without a custmain, and using pkgprefix.
03:05 < mnemoc_> gnomemeeting 1.2.1 needs a not yet released version of pwlib and openh323 :(
03:40 < mnemoc_> == 03/16/05 22:40:29 =[5]=> Finished building package gnomemeeting. :D
03:43 < CIA-9> amery * r7455 /trunk/package/mail/ezmlm/ (ezmlm.conf ezmlm.desc log_h.patch):
03:43 < CIA-9> * fixed ezmlm
03:43 < CIA-9> * unflagged ezmlm as NOPARALLEL because it builds without it
03:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7456 /trunk/package/mail/ezmlm/ (ezmlm.conf ezmlm.desc): * changed ezmlm to optional because it requires qmail which is optional
03:49 < CIA-9> amery * r7457 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnomemeeting/ (gnomemeeting.conf old_h323.patch):
03:49 < CIA-9> * fixed gnomemeeting, it required a not yet released version of pwlib and openh323.
03:49 < CIA-9> * fixed gnomemeeting by grouping openldap dependency properly
03:51 < CIA-9> amery * r7458 /trunk/package/security/qt-qca-tls/qt-qca-tls.desc: * changed [U] and download location for qt-qca-tls
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03:54 < mnemoc_> hi mtr__
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04:15 < CIA-9> amery * r7459 /trunk/package/graphic/libtiff/libtiff.desc: * updated libtiff (3.7.1 -> 3.7.2)
04:16 < CIA-9> amery * r7460 /trunk/package/mail/postfix/postfix.desc: * updated postfix (2.1.5 -> 2.2.1)
04:41 < CIA-9> amery * r7461 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Mail/ (MTA.qmail.choice MTA.vmailmgr.choice): * added ezmlm to qmail and vmailmgr plugins of mnemosyne
04:56 * mnemoc_ downloading the kde 3.4.0 cow
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06:27 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Environments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | @CeBIT Hall 6 H30-532
06:27 -!- Topic set by ao [] [Wed Mar 16 09:21:34 2005]
06:27 [Users #t2]
06:27 [ _Ragnar__] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
06:27 [ CIA-9 ] [ keinek ] [ mtr__ ] [ rxr_ ]
06:27 [ ideal ] [ Ken|JLime] [ nzg ] [ sparc-kly_]
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08:16 < rxr_> re
08:16 -!- You're now known as rxr
08:17 < rxr> so /me back home ...
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08:54 < madtux> good day.
08:54 < rxr> hi madtux !
08:54 < rxr> how was your germany trip ?
08:55 < _Ragnar__> hey :)
08:55 < madtux> rxr i got shot... i got off the hospital on monday.
08:55 < _Ragnar__> O_O
08:55 < madtux> hi _Ragnar__
08:55 < _Ragnar__> we don't usually do that in germany!
08:55 < madtux> i couldn't make it to germany.
08:55 < _Ragnar__> unless you're left wing alternative or punk that is
08:56 < madtux> that was in my own hometown
08:56 < _Ragnar__> are you okay?
08:56 < madtux> recovering my friend
08:56 < _Ragnar__> good
08:56 < _Ragnar__> how'd it happen?
08:57 < madtux> went to the market late at night to do some final shopping day before my departure
08:57 < madtux> just happened to go in as a robery was taking place
08:58 < rxr> madtux: you got shot ???
08:58 < madtux> just was at the wrong place at the wrong time.
08:58 < madtux> but i'm ok.
08:58 < rxr> oh my ...
08:58 < rxr> poor madtux ...
08:58 < madtux> just got to take it for a whole lifting heavy stuff
08:58 < madtux> and stuff like that you know..
08:59 < madtux> rxr don't worry buddie... you will still have to deal with me for a LONG time
08:59 < _Ragnar__> where do you live?
08:59 < madtux> _Ragnar__, costa rica
08:59 < _Ragnar__> ooh okay
09:00 < rxr> well - getting in some robbery with shooting can also heppn in germany ...
09:00 < madtux> rxr, sorry i didn't let you know sooner.. i just didn;t really wanted to scare people so i only told the people that REALLY had to know
09:00 < madtux> rxr, its something unexpected you know.. its not normal... but hey shit can happen
09:03 < madtux> how are things around here?
09:03 < rxr> busy ..
09:03 < madtux> rxr, good... hey you guys are going for PDA now?
09:03 < rxr> last week on the CeBIT ... - and now learning for exams urgently ...
09:04 < rxr> sure - T2 is the embedded Linux base ...
09:04 < _Ragnar__> good luck on them
09:04 < madtux> rxr, i just bought an HP IPAQ rx3115 to play
09:04 < rxr> go go !
09:04 < madtux> so hey wish me luck :)
09:04 < madtux> _Ragnar__, thx
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09:28 < ao> Good Morning! So valentin & Co. came home safely. :)
09:28 < rxr> hi ao
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09:53 < valentin> moin
09:53 < valentin> ao: yep
09:58 < rxr> moin valentin
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10:00 < rxr> hm - regarding my laser printers fill display the K toner is already nearly 50% empty ...
10:04 < rxr> does anyone tried to undelete files on reiserfs so far ?
10:07 < rxr> did
10:14 < ideal> rxr: Is there any utilities about undeleting files on reiserfs? I once tried to look for it, but failed.
10:16 < valentin> rxr: what is K toner ?
10:18 < rxr> black
10:18 < rxr> cymk ...
10:19 < valentin> oh
10:19 < valentin> rxr: was the printer turned on ?
10:20 < rxr> no - off
10:21 < valentin> puh....
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12:47 < valentin> some more pictures from the cebit (contain some random camera tests and photographs of other booths)
12:47 < valentin> http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/
12:47 < valentin> still copying
12:48 < valentin> rxr will create a gallery if you do not want to pull theese big versions
12:56 < rxr> yes - I'll inject them to the usual gallery
12:56 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/PICT0056.JPG
12:56 < rxr> ,-)
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14:32 < mnemoc_> moin
14:33 < valentin> moin mnemoc_
14:33 < mnemoc_> moin valentin
14:33 < mnemoc_> anyone else working on kde update?
14:48 < rxr> kde update ? to what?
14:48 < rxr> hi mnemoc_
14:49 < mnemoc_> 3.4.0
14:50 < mnemoc_> hi rene :)
14:50 < rxr> mnemoc_: oh
14:50 < rxr> just commit it - and I do the i18n fixing ...
14:52 < mnemoc_> i'm still downloading, so no checksums
14:52 < mnemoc_> do i commit?
14:52 < mnemoc_> the updated [D]s and [V]s
14:52 < mnemoc_> :p
14:54 < rxr> yeah - do so ...
14:54 < mnemoc_> ok
14:56 < CIA-9> amery * r7462 /trunk/package/kde/ (23 files in 23 dirs): (log message trimmed)
14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kdegames (3.4.0-rc1 -> 3.4.0)
14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kdebindings (3.4.0-rc1 -> 3.4.0)
14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kde-i18n-es (050308 -> 3.4.0)
14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kde-i18n-it (050308 -> 3.4.0)
14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kdeaddons (3.4.0-rc1 -> 3.4.0)
14:56 < CIA-9> * updated kde-i18n-de (050308 -> 3.4.0)
15:02 < mnemoc_> rxr: i'm using this translation: s,^ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/,ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/kde/, but you may want to use leo i guess
15:09 < valentin> what the heck is it the csu binary does in the glibc ?
15:09 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 rene users 1722792 2005-03-17 15:09 t2.log
15:10 < rxr> the whole t2 log hisotory -^
15:10 < valentin> rxr: including rock stuff ?
15:10 < mnemoc_> i have 4 years of logs here :)
15:11 < valentin> oh, sorry csu is no binary
15:11 < mnemoc_> and 9 years of emails
15:12 < CIA-9> amery * r7463 /trunk/package/kde/ (7 files in 7 dirs): * added checksums for arts kdegames kdebindings kdeaddons kdeadmin kdegraphics kdeaccessibility
15:12 < mnemoc_> du -sch irclogs/freenode/200*/#t2*
15:12 < mnemoc_> 2,2M total
15:12 < mnemoc_> on daily bz2 chunks
15:18 < rxr> so - Mika's commit messages prettified ..
15:19 < rxr> space inserted ...
15:19 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/ChangeLog-t2
15:20 < mnemoc_> :)
15:20 < mnemoc_> did you reviewed CopyPatch?
15:20 < rxr> no - ...
15:20 * rxr back to math learning ..
15:21 < mnemoc_> :(
15:21 < mnemoc_> when cebit ends?
15:21 < rxr> ended ...
15:21 < mnemoc_> .oO
15:28 < rxr> .oO?
15:30 < mnemoc_> nothing, just that we wnated rc1 released there
15:30 < jsaw> re
15:30 < jsaw> mnemoc_: clisp?
15:31 < mnemoc_> uhm... mom
15:31 < CIA-9> amery * r7464 /trunk/package/kde/ (7 files in 7 dirs): * added checksums for kde-i18n-es, kde-i18n-de, kdepim, kdeartwork, kdetoys, kdeutils and kdesdk
15:32 < mnemoc_> jsaw: it wasn't reescheduled :\ .... i'm forcing it right now
15:33 < mnemoc_> == 10:33:40 =[5]=> Building develop/clisp [2.33.2 2.1.0-rc1].
15:36 < mnemoc_> http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/PICT0012.JPG <--- what is he watching??!
15:39 < valentin> who ? the gui in the ximian shirt ?
15:39 < mnemoc_> yep, look at his face
15:40 < mnemoc_> jsaw: == 03/17/05 10:40:39 =[5]=> Finished building package clisp.
15:40 < mnemoc_> jsaw: thank you :)
15:40 < jsaw> oh
15:40 < valentin> perhaps he just found out his banking account was fished
15:40 < valentin> s/f/ph
15:40 < mnemoc_> jsaw: i'll test if maxima builds now
15:40 < mnemoc_> valentin: :D
15:42 < valentin> anyone here with years of experience in glibc makefiles ? (i mean, besides rxr)
15:42 < CIA-9> jsaw * r7465 /trunk/package/develop/clisp/clisp.conf:
15:42 < CIA-9> * only remove an empty line, so that this is logged:
15:42 < CIA-9> previous changes partially based on gentoo
15:43 < mnemoc_> valentin: ulrich :)
15:43 < jsaw> :p
15:45 < valentin> s/anyone/a serious persion/
15:45 < valentin> person even
15:45 < mnemoc_> valentin: why there was old people on kde booth?
15:45 < mnemoc_> valentin: none :)
15:46 < valentin> i know, you must be odd to look at that sh...
15:46 < valentin> but i am doing right now
15:46 < valentin> old people ? what picture
15:46 < mnemoc_> you may loose your sanity
15:47 < mnemoc_> jsaw: == 03/17/05 10:48:11 =[5]=> Finished building package maxima. :D
15:47 < jsaw> :D
15:47 < mnemoc_> valentin: http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/PICT0015.JPG
15:48 < mnemoc_> valentin: one young, and three old
15:51 < rxr> if you wait a few minutes, you can browse a gallery with my pics ...
15:51 < rxr> I just copy the files from the valentin dir with my photos CD content to my real gallery ...
15:52 < CIA-9> amery * r7466 /trunk/package/kde/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * added more checksums for kde. (kdelevelop, kde-i18n-fr, kdebase and kdewebdev)
15:52 < valentin> mnemoc_: the leftmost person is some official kde guy
15:52 < valentin> we complained to him that kde looks ugly ,)
15:53 < mnemoc_> :D e17 rules
15:53 < valentin> he told us 4.0 will look better
15:53 < valentin> and they want to exchange this ugly draggon
15:55 < mnemoc_> draggon?
15:55 < mnemoc_> jsaw: if you get another minute, efsd has Makefile.in.in and autoconf doesn't convert it :\
15:55 < valentin> the kde mascot
15:56 < jsaw> mnemoc_: actually not, have to run to see the doctor in a few minutes, remind me later :)
15:57 < mnemoc_> jsaw: ok, good luck
15:57 < rxr> mnemoc_: next week I'll also be back to bug fixing ..
15:58 < rxr> but I may fix gnome 2.10 and kde-i18n-* over the weekend ..
15:58 < rxr> gnome 2.10 does compile but still not run properly ... - icons mostly missing ..
15:58 < mnemoc_> rxr: can you review the CopyPatch to release rc1?
15:58 < jsaw> cu later
15:58 < mnemoc_> rxr: i think we can keep current as our stable base
15:59 < rxr> you want to have -rc1 soon now ?
15:59 < mnemoc_> i wanted on cebit :p
15:59 < mnemoc_> ok, i wait
15:59 < rxr> well - I wanted to do the final rocknet and intt code move to /sbin/s.th. or so ...
15:59 < rxr> mnemoc_: does the postinstall and install_cron stuff work as expected?
15:59 < rxr> I hao
15:59 < mnemoc_> ic
15:59 < rxr> ve not tested it ...
16:00 < mnemoc_> i had to patch install_cron
16:00 < rxr> and we need to patch the stone stuff to run postinstall.d/* during installation ...
16:00 < mnemoc_> but seems to work
16:00 < mnemoc_> if you have a minute, can you add that to your todo on the wiki?
16:01 < mnemoc_> rxr: considering i'll have more time until rc1 i guess i'll change .cron and .init installation into 'magic'
16:01 < mnemoc_> rxr: from misc/tail/ i guess
16:02 < CIA-9> amery * r7467 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * updated fox (1.4.6 -> 1.4.8)
16:02 < rxr> magic ?
16:02 < mnemoc_> automatic
16:02 < mnemoc_> if they are present, they get installed
16:03 < rxr> hm
16:03 < rxr> yeah - do so ...
16:03 < rxr> hm - my mouse vanished ...
16:03 * rxr mouse where are you ...
16:03 < mnemoc_> hehe
16:04 < rxr> ah - there it it was hidden ..
16:04 < rxr> never leave them alone that long ...
16:05 < mnemoc_> 3.4.0 test build started
16:05 < mnemoc_> rxr: btw, mtr fixed all the kde-i18n shares
16:07 < valentin> # blah
16:08 < valentin> ^- nice comment by drepper
16:08 < mnemoc_> :D
16:08 < valentin> from ...glibc-2.3.4/elf/rtld-Rules
16:09 < rxr> mnemoc_: how do you build the i18n without unsermake ?
16:09 < CIA-9> amery * r7468 /trunk/package/kde/ (5 files in 5 dirs): * last kde checksums (kde-i18n-it, kdelibs, kdemultimedia, kdeedu, kdenetwork)
16:09 < mnemoc_> updating it
16:09 < mnemoc_> rxr: 050308 used gnu make
16:09 < rxr> aha ...
16:10 < mnemoc_> == 03/17/05 11:11:11 =[5]=> Finished building package arts.
16:10 < mnemoc_> (1.4.0)
16:11 < mnemoc_> i love this framework :p
16:11 < rxr> I wanted to sed all the preconf= and co to hook_add and remove the old style preconf and co evaluation during 5
16:11 < rxr> do I have your ok for tha ?
16:11 < rxr> would do so right now if yes ...
16:11 < mnemoc_> yes
16:11 < mnemoc_> only real hooks
16:11 < mnemoc_> no hookname="blah"
16:11 < rxr> ack
16:12 < rxr> I do so ...
16:13 < mnemoc_> btw, i wanted gcc-options as gcc-options.in as part of the filename standarization
16:14 < rxr> wanted or wnat ?
16:14 < rxr> want even ..
16:15 < mnemoc_> want
16:16 < mnemoc_> in spanish we use past when 'we have been thinking in' :)
16:16 < rxr> rename it ,-)
16:16 < mnemoc_> and we great in participle :p how have you been?
16:16 < rxr> do not forget the new sh* ones ;-)
16:16 < mnemoc_> greet*
16:16 < mnemoc_> rxr: yes
16:18 < mnemoc_> rxr: a name for dropbear's scp? dropbear_scp?
16:19 < rxr> I would not alter the names at all - and do not feel comfortable with the ssh option ...
16:19 < rxr> if a target - e.g. the pda one - would liek to tweak them, it could do so customly ...
16:20 < mnemoc_> so, dropbear optional package?
16:20 < rxr> no ... !?
16:20 < rxr> by default it installs to
16:20 < mnemoc_> nope
16:20 < rxr> dorbear and dbclient or so ...
16:20 < CIA-9> rene * r7469 /trunk/package/ (35 files in 35 dirs): * substituted preconf= to hook_add preconf 5
16:20 < mnemoc_> [P] X -----5---9 191.100
16:21 < rxr> dropbear: usr/bin/dbclient
16:21 < rxr> dropbear: usr/sbin/dropbear
16:21 < rxr> what is the problem with that ?
16:21 < mnemoc_> scp
16:21 < mnemoc_> shares with openssh's
16:21 < rxr> not here - maybe someone enabled the optional scp ...
16:21 < rxr> just install it as dbscp I think ...
16:22 < rxr> and let targets tweak it as ssh replacement if needed ...
16:22 < mnemoc_> ok
16:22 < mnemoc_> r7386 | chris | 2005-03-13 10:19:42 -0400 (Sun, 13 Mar 2005) | 2 lines
16:22 < mnemoc_> * added dropbear client only option and config help
16:23 < rxr> btw I pushed our mplyer and scribus patches upstream during cebit ..
16:24 < mnemoc_> :)
16:24 < mnemoc_> PR PR PR
16:26 < rxr> valentin promoted us to the superh folks and we in general pushed it to the gpe (gtk+ based handheld environment) folks
16:26 < mnemoc_> how did they take it?
16:27 < rxr> well - need to take a look
16:27 < rxr> openembedded strangely gained some market share ...
16:27 < rxr> we need to review it ...
16:27 < rxr> too bad the creators missed t2 ...
16:30 < CIA-9> rene * r7470 /trunk/package/ (119 files in 119 dirs): * substituted *make= to hook_add *make 5 ...
16:30 < mnemoc_> are you reviewing the diffs of those?
16:32 < rxr> yes - scrolled over them ...
16:33 < rxr> I'm not sure if some contructs created work with bash - but we'll see ...
16:38 < rxr> mnemoc_: do you see defects ?
16:40 < CIA-9> rene * r7471 /trunk/package/ (16 files in 16 dirs):
16:40 < CIA-9> * substituted the remaining (postdoc,prepatch,postinstall) to
16:40 < CIA-9> hook_add * 5 ...
16:41 < mnemoc_> rxr: i have reviewed it
16:41 < mnemoc_> haven't*
16:42 < mnemoc_> svn diff -r 7468:7471
16:42 < mnemoc_> err
16:43 < CIA-9> rene * r7472 /trunk/scripts/functions: * removed old-style and obsolete hook variable evaluation
16:44 < mnemoc_> rxr: package/network/fping/fping.conf, not defect but wrong from before
16:48 < rxr> IIRC fping lookged inteed quite ugly ...
16:49 < rxr> hm - ugly - but wrong? I don't think so - why do you think is wrong ?
16:49 < mnemoc_> mailx patching is obsolete too
16:49 < mnemoc_> politicly wrong :)
16:49 < mnemoc_> not technicly wrong
16:49 < rxr> ok - I polish fping
16:50 < mnemoc_> .oO( there can be hookname=blah on .desc )
16:51 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/
16:51 < rxr> mnemoc_: ack - I grep
16:52 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/thumbs/high-PICT0037.JPG
16:53 < mnemoc_> are those the same than http://exactcode.de/valentin/cebitbilder/?
16:53 < rxr> yep
16:53 < mnemoc_> chile :D
16:53 < rxr> just with the gallery surrounded ...
16:53 < rxr> and with the ones I took with my farther's camera ...
16:54 < mnemoc_> without 'customers' :(
16:54 < mnemoc_> amazing camara
16:54 < valentin> __udivsi3_i4 should be a libgcc function
16:54 < rxr> valentin: good to know ...
16:54 < rxr> valentin: any idea why it is not in it ?
16:54 < valentin> nope
16:54 < rxr> maybe it (the lib) is not used because some t2 toolchain utilization issue ?
16:54 < rxr> or is it not in the lib?
16:55 < valentin> i try to find out
16:55 < rxr> due to t2 configuring gcc in some sub-optimal way ?
16:55 < valentin> may be
16:55 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/thumbs/high-PICT0038.JPG
16:55 < rxr> ^- mnemoc_
16:55 < valentin> __udivdi* are glibc generated functions for wordsize-32
16:55 < CIA-9> rene * r7473 /trunk/package/network/fping/fping.conf: * prettified fping
16:55 < valentin> so i was searching for half of the day where theese came from
16:56 < rxr> mnemoc_: all the PICT* pictures are from a Minolta 8 mega pxiel camera we borrowed - the others are from my farthers aging Canon Ixus 3 or so ...
16:56 < rxr> glibc or gcc ?
16:57 < valentin> i like that one: http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/photos/cebit-2005/thumbs/med-PICT0033.JPG
16:57 < valentin> rxr: glibc
16:57 < mnemoc_> o_O
16:58 < rxr> valentin: when it is libc - why should it be in libgcc ... ?
16:58 < rxr> valentin: What do I get wrong ?
16:59 < valentin> so:
16:59 < valentin> there is sysdeps/wordsize-32/divdi3.c
16:59 < CIA-9> rene * r7474 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc:
16:59 < CIA-9> * substituted *= to hook_add * 5 in the only .desc file doing it in
16:59 < CIA-9> [O] (AFAICS)
16:59 < valentin> exporting symbols like __*divdi3_{internal}@glibc
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16:59 < jeru> moin
17:00 < mnemoc_> rxr: don't forget the documentation :p
17:00 < valentin> but there are __*div* symbols defined in libgcc, too
17:00 < valentin> for example i have on ppc:
17:00 < valentin> 00000000 T __divdi3
17:00 < valentin> 00000004 T __divsf3
17:00 < valentin> 00000004 T __divdf3
17:01 < jeru> hi mnemoc, valentin, rxr, jsaw, ...
17:01 < valentin> hi jeru
17:01 < mnemoc_> hi jeru
17:03 < valentin> rxr: in my sh4 build's libgcc i got some __udivsi3
17:03 < valentin> but the __udivsi3_i4 is missing
17:03 < jeru> mnemoc: regarding grsec issue ... gradm make install checks for /dev/grsec ... so should I patch the Makefile to remove the check or do we've another solution?
17:03 < mnemoc_> rxr: +hook_add preconf 5 "aclocal ; autoconf ; automake --add-missing" <--- autogen=1 ?
17:03 < valentin> according to some superh people it should be there for sh4 processors
17:04 < mnemoc_> jeru: patch the Makefile :)
17:04 < jeru> already done ;)
17:04 < mnemoc_> :)
17:05 < rxr> mnemoc_: hehe
17:06 < mnemoc_> http://www.furnitureporn.com/furnporn1.html :)
17:10 < rxr> mnemoc_: nope - autogen=1 does not do enough to fix fping to build ...
17:10 < rxr> just tested
17:10 < mnemoc_> :(
17:11 < CIA-9> amery * r7475 /trunk/Documentation/Developers/PKG-BUILD-VARS: * removed pre hook era variables from PKG-BUILD-VARS doc
17:12 < valentin> me taking a shower
17:15 < CIA-9> rene * r7476 /trunk/scripts/functions:
17:15 < CIA-9> * initialize the hook variables - otherwise the current construct will
17:15 < CIA-9> not work
17:16 < mnemoc_> :)
17:16 < mnemoc_> nice regression
17:17 < jeru> :)
17:18 < mnemoc_> .oO( we should have tagged beta4 before today 'games' )o
17:19 < jeru> mnemoc: do you know ldapdns (see: http://www.nimh.org/code/ldapdns/ ) ?
17:20 < mnemoc_> yes, but i have never used it
17:21 < jeru> will give it a try and checking what perfomce it has compared to tinydns ;)
17:21 < mnemoc_> :)
17:22 < mnemoc_> dnsldap 2 or 3?
17:22 < jeru> first will try stable version 2
17:23 < mnemoc_> uhm version 3 looks abandoned
17:23 < mnemoc_> only ldapdhcp is missing :(
17:24 < jeru> hmmm ... it looks so ... but version 2 seems to be activly maintained .. at least the author answers ;)
17:25 < mnemoc_> :)
17:25 < mnemoc_> that's a good sign
17:25 < jeru> mnemoc: yeah ... some ldap enabled DHCP server would be nice
17:26 < mnemoc_> some non-isc ldap enabled DHCP server
17:26 < jeru> of course ;)
17:27 < jeru> mnemoc: ldapdns could be an alternative because it's fully GPL'ed
17:27 < mnemoc_> i would be happy updating ldap from dhcp, no need to read leases from there
17:27 < mnemoc_> jeru: yes
17:27 < jeru> yep :|
17:27 < mnemoc_> tinydns might get an option to build client only
17:28 < jeru> hehe :)
17:28 < mnemoc_> :)
17:29 < mnemoc_> tests builds of the kde cow are demotivating :\
17:29 < CIA-9> rene * r7477 /trunk/scripts/functions:
17:29 < CIA-9> * added check if a hook is filled during evaluation so we do not need
17:29 < CIA-9> the empty initializations ...
17:29 < mnemoc_> :)
17:30 < rxr> do not smile before you see the hack ... ,-)
17:30 < mnemoc_> uhm
17:30 < mnemoc_> do i want to see the hack?
17:31 < rxr> it is tiny - but just a hack ...
17:32 < mnemoc_> pushing kde to my mirror is melting my bw
17:34 < mnemoc_> it's not a hack, it's /robustness/
17:46 < rxr> XFCE 4.2.1 was released today.
17:47 < mnemoc_> oh
17:48 < rxr> mnemoc_: you update I guess?
17:49 < rxr> http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,2000061733,39184947,00.htm
17:49 < mnemoc_> my bw is melted, i would need to wait some hours
17:50 < rxr> Companies accused of violating the GPL
17:51 < mnemoc_> time out :(
18:10 < mnemoc_> xfce updated, let's download :)
18:11 < jeru> hehe :)
18:18 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/regressions.html
18:30 < valentin> re
18:32 < rxr> rehi valentin
18:35 < valentin> someone on #linux-sh said sth about a patch for libgcc, but i got the feeling he has not realy an idea - i think it is the way we build that gcc stuff
18:38 < rxr> I think, too
18:38 < rxr> we also have other regressions in the cross gcc area introduced sometime like 1 and 1/2 years ago ...
18:38 < rxr> just take a look when gcc should do what ...
18:39 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <-- new official location :p ... i'll add href links to .err files in some minutes
18:47 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html :D
18:47 < mnemoc_> simple but usefull
18:48 < mnemoc_> just if anyone is interested in helping to fix broken packages ;)
18:48 < mnemoc_> i'll go to the bank now
18:48 < mnemoc_> cu
18:49 < mnemoc_> it can be slow because i haven't finished uploading kde stuff
18:49 * valentin away again - cu in some h
18:52 < valentin> cu
18:53 < rxr> cu valentin
18:55 < _Ragnar__> cy
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19:20 < Minto> Moin
19:24 < rxr> oh - hi Minto !
20:36 < rxr> http://prex.sourceforge.net/
20:37 < rxr> an open source initiative to provide a portable real-time operating system for embedded systems
20:38 < CIA-9> rene * r7478 /trunk/package/x11/gtkpod/gtkpod.desc: * updated gtkpod (0.88 -> 0.88.1)
20:39 < rxr> we are off into bed - cu
20:46 < mnemoc_> re
20:51 < CIA-9> amery * r7479 /trunk/package/kde/ (35 files in 33 dirs): * renamed kde_config.sh to kde-conf.in
20:58 < CIA-9> amery * r7480 /trunk/package/audio/noteedit/ (noteedit.conf noteedit.desc): * changed noteedit to use kde-conf.in instead of kde_config.sh
21:02 < CIA-9> amery * r7481 /trunk/package/graphic/pixieplus/ (pixieplus.conf pixieplus.desc): * changed pixieplus to use kde-conf.in instead of kde_config.sh
21:14 < CIA-9> amery * r7482 /trunk/package/gnue/ (8 files in 6 dirs): * changed GNUe packages to use gnue-conf.in
21:23 < CIA-9> amery * r7483 /trunk/package/java/kaffe/ (java-conf.in java-config.in): * renamed java-config.in to java-conf.in
21:27 < CIA-9> amery * r7484 /trunk/package/java/apache-ant/ (. apache-ant.conf apache-ant.desc): * added apache-ant (1.6.2)
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21:32 < c4y0> hi
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21:48 < mnemoc_> hi c4y0
21:48 < jeru> hi c4y0> hi
21:48 < mnemoc_> hi jeru
21:48 < jeru> ah mnemoc ... you're back
21:48 < jeru> ;)
21:49 < mnemoc_> :)
21:49 < jeru> mnemoc: how are tail files handled ?
21:49 < mnemoc_> format?
21:49 < mnemoc_> or procedures?
21:50 < jeru> procedures
21:50 < mnemoc_> misc/tail/parse-config
21:50 < mnemoc_> http://wiki.t2-project.org/index.cgi?TailFormat
21:50 < mnemoc_> the idea is to 'compile' the script
21:51 < mnemoc_> tail2runit
21:51 < mnemoc_> tail2init
21:51 < mnemoc_> tail2sysvinit
21:51 < mnemoc_> tail2cron
21:51 < jeru> ah ok
21:52 < mnemoc_> i'll automatize .init and .cron installation first
21:52 < mnemoc_> then i'll create .tail files to replace them, keeping the output identical
21:53 < mnemoc_> but i haven't had enough time yet :\
21:53 < jeru> have I to "register" an init file ?
21:53 < mnemoc_> currently yes
21:53 < jeru> where I have do this ?
21:53 < mnemoc_> but my idea is to autodetect the tail files
21:54 < mnemoc_> a sysv's init or runit?
21:54 < jeru> runit and sysv ;)
21:55 < jeru> but first runit
21:55 < mnemoc_> package/*/runit/packages/
21:55 < jeru> I placed it there ...
21:55 < mnemoc_> yes
21:57 < jeru> and if I build package foo it will take out the needed information out of foo.tail to populate run scripts etc...
22:06 < mnemoc_> only for runit
22:06 < mnemoc_> currently
22:07 < mnemoc_> $pkg-$servicedir.tail
22:07 < mnemoc_> _s on $servicedir are replaced with /s
22:07 < mnemoc_> and they start on $sysconfdir
22:08 < mnemoc_> how are your sed knowledges?
22:11 < jeru> mnemoc: my sed knowledge is upgradable ;)
22:11 < jeru> but I think I figure it out finaly ;)
22:11 < mnemoc_> do you know how to add a line before the first match of a pattern?
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22:13 < jeru> mnemoc: it works now :)
22:13 < mnemoc_> :)
22:35 < c4y0> im back again
22:35 < c4y0> =)
22:39 < valentin> re
22:40 < mnemoc_> re valentin
22:45 < CIA-9> amery * r7485 /trunk/misc/archive/AuditBuild.sh:
22:45 < CIA-9> * improved AuditBuild.sh to detect added packages
22:45 < CIA-9> * improved AuditBuild.sh to render for error logs in html mode
22:46 < CIA-9> amery * r7486 /trunk/package/ (185 files in 183 dirs): * renamed gnome-2.conf to gnome2-conf.in
22:46 < mnemoc_> valentin: did you heard any re-review comment about CopyPatch from rene?
22:47 < mnemoc_> pre-review*
22:47 < valentin> you mean your Copyright stuff ? can't remember he said something...
22:49 < mnemoc_> he seems to be ignoring the topic and i would like to know why :\
22:50 < mnemoc_> what time is it there?
22:52 < valentin> 22:52
22:52 < valentin> he went to bed or whatever
22:52 < valentin> i'll ask him when i phone him tomorow
22:58 < mnemoc_> i'm 5 hours before you...
22:58 < mnemoc_> when do you change TZ?
22:59 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/T2/regressions.html <--- the last Create-ErrList -newdelete was agressive :(
23:00 < valentin> daylight saving ? ohm ....
23:00 < mnemoc_> yes
23:00 < valentin> 03-27-2005
23:00 < valentin> i hate that
23:01 < valentin> getting up one h earlyer in the morning
23:01 < valentin> btw: you are not before us, you are late
23:01 < valentin> :p
23:02 < mnemoc_> :(
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23:29 < mnemoc_> .oO( i forgot to say thank you to valentin )o
23:35 < valentin> thank you for what ?
23:37 < mnemoc_> for the CopyPatch thing :)
23:37 < CIA-9> amery * r7487 /trunk/package/ (366 files in 184 dirs): * moved gnome2-conf.in source from .conf to .desc
23:43 < mnemoc_> my reference will almost start from zero now :\
23:43 * mnemoc_ moving home
23:43 < mnemoc_> bbl
23:43 < mnemoc_> 1h
23:46 < valentin> cu
23:46 < valentin> i will go to sleep now
23:46 < valentin> gn8
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