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01:32 < mnemoc_> re
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02:15 < mnemoc_> has anyone used mod_security?
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03:45 < CIA-9> amery * r7410 /trunk/package/network/mod_security/ (. mod_security.conf mod_security.desc): * added mod_security (1.8.7)
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03:47 < CIA-9> amery * r7411 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/ (pkg_mod_security.conf pkgsel/Services/Web/00-apache.ask): * added mod_security to mnemosyne's apache
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04:03 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta3 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | @CeBIT Hall 6 H30-532
04:03 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Thu Mar 10 18:02:19 2005]
04:03 [Users #t2]
04:03 [ _Ragnar_] [ ideal] [ mnemoc_] [ nzg] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 
04:03 [ CIA-9   ] [ jsaw ] [ mtr    ] [ ojh] [ rxr_] 
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04:11 < CIA-9> amery * r7412 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp/gtk-sharp.desc: * updated gtk-sharp (1.0.6 -> 1.0.8)
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04:25 < CIA-9> amery * r7413 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmozembed-sharp/gtkmozembed-sharp.desc: * updated gtkmozembed-sharp (r40719 -> 0.6)
04:29 < CIA-9> amery * r7414 /trunk/package/gnome2/libxklavier/libxklavier.desc: * changed libxklavier to 'Stable'
04:40 < CIA-9> amery * r7415 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkg_mod_security.conf: * fixed mnemosyne's mod_security config to actually load the module
04:48 < CIA-9> amery * r7416 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtksourceview-sharp/dont_install_vbnet.lang.patch: * fixed gtksourceview-sharp, not install numerle.lang neither
04:50 < CIA-9> amery * r7417 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Desktop/ (5 files): * changed mnemosyne GNOME to .choice
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05:22 < CIA-9> amery * r7418 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Web/PHP.conf: * changed mnemosyne php to enable support for everything found.
06:20 < CIA-9> amery * r7419 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/ (gtk-sharp2.conf gtk-sharp2.desc): * updated gtk-sharp2 (1.9.2 -> r41822)
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06:44 < ojh> Question: Are any changes being proposed to the ROCK-NET system? Can I assume that the format of /etc/network/config will not change?
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09:05 < CIA-9> mtr * r7420 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdvdnav/libdvdnav.conf: * fix libdvdnav compilation
09:22 < CIA-9> mtr * r7421 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-lite/ (. dfb-lite.conf dfb-lite.desc): * add package LiTE (CVS 2005-02-26): a toolkit engine for directfb
09:23 < CIA-9> mtr * r7422 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-extra/dfb-extra.conf: * fix dfb-extra: use pkgprefix to locate imlib2
09:29 < valentin> moin
09:30 < CIA-9> mtr * r7423 /trunk/package/games/gnubg/gnubg.conf: * fix gnubg typo
09:33 < CIA-9> mtr * r7424 /trunk/package/develop/hte/hte.desc: * fix hte typo: build in stage 3 instead of 2
10:01 < rxr_> re
10:01 < rxr_> hi
10:01 < rxr_> moin valentin 
10:02 < mipe> hi rxr_
10:05 < rxr_> hi mipe 
10:05 -!- You're now known as rxr
10:06 < rxr> mnemoc_: our rsbac package is outdated ...
10:06 < rxr> (the rsbac author just complained ...)
10:06 < rxr> mnemoc_: t
10:06 < rxr> mnemoc_: do you plan an update in the next days ?
10:10 < mtr> hi rxr, mipe 
10:11 < mipe> rxr:are you busy? need help on gcc(no stddef.h)
10:14 < mipe> rxr:and what do you think of altering x86-64 build process,if [R] x86 (no x86-64) build it automatically to i386-* and if -x86-64 is setted do not build it at all
10:29 < rxr> yeah - busy ..
10:30 < rxr> the later can not be done that easily - because most of the stuff will not build due to missing library dependencies not bilt for 32 bit ...
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10:31 < jeru> moin
10:33 < mtr> hi jeru 
10:35 < jeru> hi mtr
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10:38 < mtr> the kde-i18n-xy update from -rc1 to snapshot-050308 produces shared files with some other kde pkgs
10:38 < mtr> like digikam, kiosktool 
10:40 < mtr> i'm preparing patches for kde-i18n-xy not to install the extragear stuff
10:41 < mtr> jeru: do you know why mnemoc_ updated kde-i18n?
10:42 < jeru> uhm .... no! sorry!
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12:12 < rxr> re
14:31 < mnemoc_> moin
14:31 < mnemoc_> mtr: because it didn't built due to unsermake
14:31 < mnemoc_> rxr: yes, i'll update rsbac
14:32 < mnemoc_> mtr: rc1 would share too, but it doesn't just because it don't build
14:39 < mnemoc_> mtr: for part in $tarballs ; do tlist="$tlist $archdir/$part"; done <--- using match_source_file -p weights you get it with it's path
14:43 < valentin> mnemoc_: if there is trouble w rsbac, just complain here :)
14:44 < mnemoc_> nah :) i love it :p
14:44 < mnemoc_> i'll have to rewrite that package to apply to T2's schema, but i'll solve that today
14:45 < valentin> what t2 schema ? postlinux stuff ?
14:45 < mnemoc_> valentin: mainly linux-header != linux26
14:46 < mnemoc_> valentin: push him to get a 2.6.11 patch :)
14:49 < mnemoc_> oh, here it is
14:59 < mtr> hi mnemoc_ 
14:59 < mnemoc_> hi mtr 
15:00 < mtr> unsermake? what is it good for?
15:01 < mnemoc_> a make replacement used inside kde
15:01 < mnemoc_> but not intended to use outside
15:01 < mnemoc_> but i18n-rc1 got 'leaked'
15:02 < mtr> ah, ok
15:02 < mtr> is it ok to run sed over the Makefile.in's and filter out kdeextragear stuff?
15:03 < mnemoc_> i don't use kde :)
15:03 < mtr> ;)
15:03 < mnemoc_> review the diffs and see if the 'patch' is safe
15:13 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
16:01 < mnemoc> valentin: can you ask rene for a comment (and better if it's a discussion) about CopyPatch ?
16:02 < mnemoc> usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache: bluefish wine <-- hate this damn shares!
16:06  * jeru is back
16:06 < jeru> re ... hi
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16:13 < jeru> mnemoc: my "local" mnemosyne with some more desktop/KDE packages --> 318 builds total, 316 completed fine, 2 with errors.
16:14 < mnemoc_> :D
16:14 < jeru> :D
16:14 < mnemoc_> which are failing?
16:15 < jeru> ethereal and pilot-link .. but haven't examined log files yet
16:15 < mnemoc_> uhm
16:18 < jeru> mnemoc: will move home now ... cu later :(
16:18 < jeru> :D
16:18 < mnemoc_> cu :(
16:18 < jeru> :( <-- was just y type ;)
16:19 < mnemoc_> :)
16:19 < rxr> re
16:20 < CIA-9> amery * r7425 /trunk/package/games/gnubg/gnubg.conf: * cleaned gnubg to do better use of match_source_file
16:20 < mnemoc_> rxr: :D
16:21 < rxr> mnemoc_: any rsbac pending ?
16:21 < mnemoc_> yes
16:21 < mnemoc_> rework done, but not yet tested
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16:21 < CIA-9> amery * r7426 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (0.66 -> 0.70)
16:23 < mnemoc_> Scheduling package 'linux-header' for rebuild ...
16:24 < mnemoc_> rxr: kde-i18n-* share with almost every damn kde package :(
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16:25 < mnemoc_> rxr: what's the sense of those packages if single packages already have their translations?
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16:25 < keinek> hi
16:26 < keinek> i back
16:26 < mnemoc_> hi keinek 
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16:57 < Postal> Hey all
16:57 < mnemoc_> hi Postal 
16:58 < Postal> rxr, around?
16:58 < Postal> hi mnemoc_
16:59 < mtr> hi Postal 
16:59 < Postal> hi mtr
17:01 < CIA-9> amery * r7427 /trunk/package/security/rsbac/ (9 files): * updated rsbac (1.2.2 -> 1.2.4)
17:01 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc
17:01 < mnemoc> rxr: rsbac updated, reworked and tested
17:03 < valentin> mnemoc: rxr is gone :(
17:03 < mnemoc> valentin: :(
17:03 < valentin> they always leave me alone here
17:04 < valentin> but i'll tell the rsbac guy
17:04 < valentin> he will be happy
17:04 < mnemoc> :)
17:05 < mnemoc> valentin: can you ask him about CopyPatch thing (patch on ML) and kde shares? i have a lot of broken kde packages and we wanted rc1 released during CeBIT. i can't do it alone
17:05 < valentin> there was a czech republic telecomunication guy here searching for an alternative for scatchbox
17:05 < mnemoc> :D
17:05 < mnemoc> T2 T2 T2
17:09 < mtr> mnemoc: kde-i18n shares are resolved, kiosktool and digikam etal build fine now
17:09 < mnemoc> commited?
17:10 < mtr> I commit it now for -de for review
17:10 < mnemoc> ok
17:10 < mnemoc> even amarok shares with that crap
17:12 < CIA-9> mtr * r7428 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-de/kde-i18n-de.conf: * fix kde-i18n-xy shared files with pkgs included in kdeextragear
17:12 < mtr> yes, amarok is fixed by this, too
17:14 < mnemoc> good
17:15 < valentin> mnemoc: who is "him" ?
17:15 < mnemoc> valentin: rene :)
17:15 < valentin> him is away 
17:16 < mnemoc> valentin: when he returns :)
17:16 < valentin> he will not return today
17:16 < mnemoc> oh
17:16 < valentin> just left me alone
17:17 < valentin> but after a week i am used to it
17:18 < mnemoc> :|
17:18 < mtr> mnemoc: should i just duplicate the i18n cleanup code for -{it,fr,es}?
17:19 < mnemoc> i guess
17:19 < mtr> i guess you would prefer a more generic solution :) ?
17:19 < mnemoc> i want they building :p
17:19  * mnemoc on dirty mode
17:19 < mtr> :)
17:19 < valentin> mnemoc: hey !
17:20 < mnemoc> :)
17:20 < valentin> we are trying to sell t2 to important industry partners - so wait with the messing till they pay for it
17:21 < mnemoc> there can not be regressions if something (KDE) was already broken
17:22 < CIA-9> mtr * r7429 /trunk/package/kde/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * fix kde-i18n-xy shared files with pkgs included in kdeextragear
17:22 < mnemoc> mtr: can you test if they build?
17:23 < mtr> mnemoc: -it does build currently, the others are scheduled
17:23 < mnemoc> great
17:24 < mnemoc> valentin: there is real interest on our product there?
17:25 < mtr> i build -de this morning with a cleanup.patch, so {digikam,amarok,kiosktool,...} build cleanly
17:25 < mnemoc> valentin: if you see rsbac guy, can you ask him why the hell does he use /usr/src/linux/include/rsbac/help/getname.c to build his rsbac-admin?
17:26 < valentin> mnemoc: there is some interesst, even from some more important people
17:27 < mnemoc> valentin: great :)
17:27 < valentin> main problem: i fear they will be scared when visiting our poor website
17:27 < mnemoc> :\
17:27 < valentin> many embedded people asking for ARM support
17:27 < valentin> so we need more embedded targets
17:28 < valentin> rxr and me decided to add sh-* after cebit
17:28 < valentin> creating a dreamcast-target
17:28 < mnemoc> :p
17:30 < keinek> i have a dreamcast :P
17:30 < keinek> with keyword and mouse :P
17:30  * valentin too
17:30 < mnemoc> i have a nintendo on a box somewhere
17:30 < valentin> keinek: i have no kbd, but a good friend of mine has
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17:30 < mnemoc> hi jeru 
17:31 < jeru> re ... hi
17:31 < jeru> :)
17:31 < mnemoc> jeru: you can use rsbac as reference for grsec
17:31 < valentin> mnemoc: n64 ? irc they had some mips variant
17:31 < mnemoc> valentin: nope, nintendo
17:31 < mnemoc> the old one
17:31 < valentin> ok
17:31 < jeru> that was what I thought already while checking my mails and seeing you rsbac update ;)
17:31 < valentin> i have a gamecube but that one is hard to bootstrap
17:32 < mnemoc> :)
17:32 < keinek> valentin now can you with the game shark card
17:32 < valentin> keinek: i want to have a target with some emulators (snes, saturn) on the DC
17:32 < valentin> and some guy from japan asked for superH today, so ...
17:33 < keinek> Mmmm saturn
17:33 < keinek> the saturn are in cd 
17:33 < jeru> hola keinek :)
17:35 < valentin> keinek: tell me about that game shark thingy
17:35 < keinek> hola jeru 
17:36 < keinek> i was looking
17:36 < keinek> searching the news
17:36 < Postal> I need to move my build to the beginning of the sandbox, so that I can boot into it.. does anyone remember the cp command off hand to do that?
17:37 < mtr> == 03/15/05 17:33:47 =[5]=> Finished building package kde-i18n-it.
17:37 < mnemoc> :)
17:38 < mnemoc> Postal: i use cp -dR
17:38 < mnemoc> or sometimes cp -a
17:40  * mtr away now, cu later
17:40 < keinek> interview with the hacker
17:40 < keinek> in english
17:40 < keinek> http://elotrolado.net/showthread.php?s=f93402daafadd023ba5acf6274e62b15&threadid=367844&highlight=game+cube
17:40 < keinek> in this thread
17:41 < Postal> how do i actually boot into my new system?
17:41 < Postal> ie use its grub..? over my suse grub
17:42 < valentin> 17:26 < mnemoc> valentin: if you see rsbac guy, can you ask him why the hell does he use
17:42 < valentin>                 /usr/src/linux/include/rsbac/help/getname.c to build his rsbac-admin?
17:42 < valentin> mnemoc: it is common code
17:43 < mnemoc> :\
17:43 < valentin> you can copy it
17:43 < valentin> where is the problem with that ?
17:43 < mnemoc> i'm doing it
17:43 < mnemoc> extracing rsbac/help into rsbac-admin
17:44 < mnemoc> our linux-header doesn't include .c files
17:44 < mnemoc> only headers
17:44 < valentin> mnemoc: ic
17:44 < valentin> wait - the rsbac maintainer will join in a few seconds
17:45 < mnemoc> :)
17:46 < valentin> btw: why is help stuff in the kernel anyway ?
17:47 < mnemoc> no idea
17:47 < mnemoc> ask him
17:47 < valentin> he'll join in a moment (i hope)
17:47 < valentin> 12 minutes to go...
17:47 < valentin> boooooring
17:47 < mnemoc> he assume you have kernel sources available
17:47 < valentin> yep
17:48 < valentin> i understood that now - tell _him_ ,)
17:48 < mnemoc> :D
17:49 < mnemoc> HELPPATH = $(KERNEL_DIR)/rsbac/help
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17:51 < mnemoc> hi ao :)
17:51 < valentin> mnemoc: that works ?
17:51 < ao> Hi mnemoc!
17:52 < valentin> hi ao
17:52 < mnemoc> valentin: that is what Makefile has
17:52 < ao> Hi everyone!
17:52 < valentin> mnemoc: ao is the maintainer
17:52 < jeru> Hi ao!
17:52 < ao> RSBAC questions about getname.c etc.?
17:53 < mnemoc> not really... it just 'unconfortable' to have the tools depending on kernel sources
17:53 < ao> mnemoc: getname.c etc. contain helper functions for both kernel and tools. You can make a copy and remove the dependency in the Makefile.
17:53 < mnemoc> ao: that's what i'm doing, HELPPATH=
17:53 < mnemoc> but i think it's a bad practice
17:54 < ao> It avoids the maintenance of two identical copies, so it is easier for me. The tools need the headers from kernel sources anyway.
17:55 < ao> If you say it is a problem, I can maintain the copies for future versions.
17:55 < mnemoc> yes? if you can, much better
17:56 < mnemoc> there is no reason to force people to have their kernel sources when they rebuild the tools :)
17:56 < ao> What about the headers?
17:56 < mnemoc> headers are .h, not .c :)
17:56 < ao> I am not really willing to copy them, too.
17:57 < ao> Yes, but they come with RSBAC kernel sources.
17:57 < mnemoc> yes, and i have /usr/include/rsbac
17:57 < ao> Do you have a separate header package?
17:57 < mnemoc> yes
17:57 < mnemoc> linux-header
17:58 < valentin> mnemoc: ao has customers
17:58 < mnemoc> i patch it and inject .h from rsbac-v1.2.4
17:58 < mnemoc> ok
17:59 < valentin> i have to leave now, cu mnemoc, ao, keinek, jeru, Postal and whoever i forgot ...
18:00 < mnemoc> cu valentin 
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18:01 < ao> mnemoc: I will come back tomorrow, I have to leave here.
18:01 < mnemoc> ao: ok, cu tomorrow
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18:01 < ao> Bye!
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18:01 < mnemoc> bye 
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18:08 < Postal> When I boot into t2, the kernel gives me acpi errors, and then reoprts that the console shuts up
18:09 < mnemoc> uhm?
18:09 < Postal> im not sure what to do about that..
18:12 < Postal> where would the kernel log be stored that dmesg would read?
18:12 < mnemoc> dmesg grabs them from /proc/klog
18:12 < mnemoc> syskoops can help you a bit
18:13 < mnemoc> == 03/15/05 13:12:32 =[5]=> Finished building package rsbac. <--- finallY!
18:13 < Postal> mnemoc, there is nothing in proc.. prolly cause that kernel is not booted...
18:13 < Postal> what is syskoops?
18:13 < mnemoc> /proc is mount point
18:13 < _jeru_> mnemoc: :)
18:14 < CIA-9> amery * r7430 /trunk/package/security/rsbac/rsbac.conf: * fixed rsbac to not demand kernel sources
18:14 < Postal> i suppose i have to mount proc ... for the chrooted env
18:14 < mnemoc> _jeru_: lets reschedule kde and all the packages it shares
18:15 < mnemoc> Postal: /proc only reflects your current state
18:15 < _jeru_> mnemoc: ?
18:16 < mnemoc> kde-i18n
18:16 < Postal> grr
18:16 < Postal> well, how can i get the kernel messages from that boot up...
18:16 < Postal> they must be stored somewhere
18:16 < mnemoc> it's stores by the init rutine
18:17 < mnemoc> stored*
18:17 < Postal> ...
18:17 < mnemoc> but you need to get there first
18:17 < Postal> ic
18:17 < Postal> hmm 
18:17 < mnemoc> your panic comes from kernel or from rockplug?
18:17 < Postal> kernel
18:18 < Postal> i think..
18:18 < Postal> lol
18:18 < Postal> one sec
18:18 < Postal> brb i want to try something
18:19 < mnemoc> serial consoles are good for that
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18:24 < mnemoc> _jeru_: what broke your pilot-link and ethereal?
18:24 < Postal1> Why is my nick still in here?
18:25 < Postal1> The kernel complains about apic errors, timers and other such things... 
18:27 < Postal1> <ffffffff8010ed7b>{apic_timer_interupt+99} <ffffffff8010ce8> {oopa_end+40} is one of the lines
18:29 < Postal1> any ideas...?
18:31 < mnemoc> not to me
18:32 < Postal1> well, what would you do?
18:32 < Postal1> i guess it is complaining about a corrupt stack of some kind
18:33 -!- Postal2 [~Postal@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2
18:33 < Postal2> Now there are 3 of me
18:33 < Postal2> but Postal should not be in here... 
18:33 -!- Postal [~Postal@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
18:33 < Postal2> there we go
18:33 -!- Postal2 is now known as Postal
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18:33 < Postal> better
18:34 < mnemoc> you can ghost him if you have your nick registered
18:34 < Postal> yeah my nick is registered
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18:34 < Postal> but he left anyway
18:34 < mnemoc> :)
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18:35 < Postal> So what should i do about this problem... what is apic anyway... i knwo what acpi is but not apic..
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18:36 < mnemoc> i doubt that is you problem
18:36 -!- Postal1 [~edinatux1@ool-4356292a.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #t2
18:36 < Postal> mmm
18:36 < Postal> do you think trying the 2.4 kernel might work...
18:37 < Postal> i dont really want to use it but... id like to use my t2 lol
18:38 < _Ragnar_> programmable interrupt controller
18:39 < Postal> _Ragnar_, any ideas on the kernel issue?
18:39 < _Ragnar_> turning it off would come to mind
18:39 < Postal> lol with a apic=off?
18:39 < _Ragnar_> I think the option is noapic
18:40 < Postal> ok ill give that a try hold on 
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18:42 < Postal1> even with noapic it still gives me the apic errors...
18:43 < Postal1> it also complains about scheduler_tick, error_exit, rebalance_tick, inflate_codes, unpack_to_rootfs, and init
18:43 < Postal1> oh and populate_rootfs
18:44 < _Ragnar_> uhm
18:44 < Postal1> they all have numbers at the end of the... its refering to a set of stacks apparently...
18:45 < Postal1> im going to try the 2.4 kernel
18:45 < _Ragnar_> okay ... good luck
18:45 < Postal1> unless you have any ideas?
18:48 < _Ragnar_> hmm no not at the moment
18:51 < Postal1> well at least the 2.4 kernel just lets me know that it cannot mount root where i told it to...
18:52 < Postal1> its odd though... it mounts root fine the first time, then initrd, goes to re-mount root, and then it fails...
18:53 < Postal1> but so i guess my 2.6 kernel did not build so well
18:56 < _Ragnar_> which one are you using? 2.6.11?
18:57 < Postal1> not sure i would have to look it up... whatever is HEAD
18:57 < mnemoc> that can perfectly be a linux bug
18:58 < Postal1> It says that root is mounted VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) and then it tells me on the next line that it cannot open root device 
18:58 < Postal1> but i know that its right i have double and triple checked it..
18:59 < _Ragnar_> do you have your root on a raid/promise controller?
18:59 < Postal1> yes
18:59 < Postal1> or well no
18:59 < Postal1> its on a nvidia sata controler
18:59 < _Ragnar_> ah
19:00 < _Ragnar_> I'd guess that's not in the standard kernel build
19:00 < Postal1> grrr
19:00 < _Ragnar_> so you might have to use initrd
19:00 < Postal1> i am using initrd
19:00 < Postal1> the problem occurs when initrd goes to re-mount root
19:01 < Postal1> but if i remove initrd, it still cannot mount root
19:01 < _Ragnar_> well, yes, cause it cannot find the root device
19:02 < Postal1> but either way i lose lol
19:03 < _Ragnar_> did you put the modprobe <sata> into /etc/conf/kernel and ran mkinitrd ?
19:03 < Postal1> um... no
19:03 < Postal1> wasnt aware i needed to
19:04 < Postal1> i have to chroot in to do it
19:04 < _Ragnar_> yea
19:04 < Postal1> hold on im booting suse now
19:04 < Postal1> couldent i just move the whole thing to an ide hd?
19:05 < mtr> mnemoc: kde-i18n-es has an error, caused by kxsldbg :(  i'll retry with the newest snapshot from today
19:05 < _Ragnar_> you could, but that's cheating :)
19:05 < Postal1> LOL
19:05 < Postal1> i have a nice clean 80 GB segate ide hd waiting for something
19:08 < Postal1> it only re-created the 2.6 initrd
19:09 < Postal1> which is 2.6.4 btw
19:09 < mnemoc> mtr: oh
19:10 < Postal1> _Ragnar_, how do i make it re-create the 2.4 initrd?
19:10 < _Ragnar_> uhm lemme see
19:11 < _Ragnar_> mkinitrc 2.4.x-dist 
19:11 < _Ragnar_> rd*
19:12 < Postal1> ok
19:12 < Postal1> now lets try again
19:14 < Postal1> what exactly is an initrd?
19:14 < mnemoc> modules
19:14 < mnemoc> and a routine to load them
19:14 < Postal1> ic
19:17 < _Ragnar_> the trick is: it gets loaded by the boot loader, so it can be on a partition the kernel can't mount at startup
19:17 < Postal1> ic
19:18 < Postal1> well it still wont mount /dev/hde4
19:18 < Postal1> or well it mounts it but it cannot read it
19:19 < Postal1> hmm but i must have typed the name of the module wrong...
19:20 < Postal1> insmod reports that no module by that name found
19:21 < _Ragnar_> uhm
19:21 < _Ragnar_> sata is /dev/scsi/...
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19:21 < Postal1> ..?
19:21 < _Ragnar_> sata meldet die platten als scsi an
19:22 < _Ragnar_> zumindest bei mir hier
19:22 < Postal1> i dont speak german
19:22 < _Ragnar_> oouch sorry
19:22 < Postal1> only english and a little spanish
19:22  * _Ragnar_ spanks himself for not doing a context switch
19:23 < Postal1> lol
19:23 < _Ragnar_> sata announces the HDs as scsi devices (which kinda makes sense since the scsi drivers already know about tagged command queing and such)
19:23 < Postal1> ok
19:24 < Postal1> so i added modprobe sata_nv...
19:25 < _Ragnar_> okay
19:25 < Postal1> prehaps we should try and just move the whole root to a ide hd..
19:25 < Postal1> would this solve the problem?
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19:26 < _Ragnar_> this problem, yeah, very likely
19:26 < Postal1> hmm
19:27 < Postal1> i am a little upset about not being able to use the 2.6 kenrnel... it is much better with sata and what not
19:28 < _Ragnar_> yeah that's strange
19:28 < _Ragnar_> I've been useing the t2-compiled 2.6.11 on amd64 and it worked pretty good
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19:30 < Postal1> hmm well i am not using 2.6.11
19:31 < Postal1> but if i can boot in with 2.4 i can compile it down i suppose
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19:36 < Postal1> so now t2 will have 80GB all to its self...
19:36 < _Ragnar_> :)
19:36 < Postal1> thats alot of space for linux lol
19:37 < Postal1> although.. my sata is 240GB
19:37 < _Ragnar_> for building t2-generic ... ;)
19:37 < _Ragnar_> could be almost enough :)
19:37 < Postal1> how much space does generic require?
19:40 < _Ragnar_> I was mostly joking :)
19:40 < Postal1> the move from one HD to another HD, takes longer than just moving folders...
19:41 < Postal1> its moving... its just taking a while
19:42 < _Ragnar_> yea
19:42 < _Ragnar_> ide usually is slow ;)
19:42 < Postal1> you use sata also?
19:42 < Postal1> yea its done
19:42 < Postal1> time to tell grub where it is
19:43 < _Ragnar_> yea
19:43 < Postal1> second HD only partition is (hd1,0)
19:45 < Postal1> it says my partition table is invalid or corrupt... but i just fdiskd and mke2fs the hd before the move...
19:46 < Postal1> well bbs time for lunch
20:55 < mnemoc> re
20:55 < mnemoc> mke2fs???
20:56 < _Ragnar_> ?
20:56 < mnemoc> how can you use e2fs on that disk?
20:56 < _Ragnar_> .oO(why not?)
20:57 < mnemoc> inodes
20:57 < _Ragnar_> ?
20:57 < mnemoc> reiserfs makes much better usage of big disks
20:57 < _Ragnar_> yes, almost every filesystem has inodes
20:58 < _Ragnar_> and to waste 64mb (standard journal size?) a ext2 fs would have to have a lot of inodes to offset
20:59 < mnemoc> :)
21:00 < _Ragnar_> now reiser has other advantages, too ... but that doesn't mean ext2 is useless now ;)
21:00 < mnemoc> hehe
21:00 < mnemoc> even minix is useful in some contexts
21:01 < _Ragnar_> *g*
21:09 < CIA-9> amery * r7431 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgnomedb/gcc34.patch: * fixed libgnomedb by removing obsolete patch
21:10 < CIA-9> amery * r7432 /trunk/package/kde/amarok/amarok.desc: * updated amarok (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
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22:09 < mnemoc> mtr: kde-i18n-es is simply broken :\ i have fixed 7 mistakes until now and it still broken. i mailed their group asking.
22:13 < mtr> mnemoc: yep, i tried today's snapshot, without success :( 
22:14 < mtr> 1365 completed fine, 34 with errors   <-- which is not so bad, at all
22:14 < mnemoc> 1475 builds total, 1416 completed fine, 58 with errors.
22:14 < mnemoc> can you show me your list? (query)
22:15 < mtr> you still have the i18n regressions in your list?
22:15 < mnemoc> nope
22:15 < mtr> hmm
22:15 < mnemoc> that problem is solved :)
22:15 < mnemoc> i had over 80 this morning
22:16 < mnemoc> i have some non commited updates here, that are broken :)
22:17 < mtr> same here: three updates for broken pkgs pending: k3b, licq, nvrec
22:18 < mnemoc> i have those on my list too :)
22:18 < mnemoc> k3b a gcc34 problem
22:18 < mnemoc> licq gpgme headers
22:19 < mnemoc> and nvrec due to divx headers
22:19 < mtr> k3b has a compatablity problem with flac, this is solves in 0.11.21
22:19 < mtr> ?
22:19 < mtr> solved*
22:20 < mnemoc> i missed that update
22:20 < mtr> brand new, 2005-03-15 ;)
22:21 < mnemoc> :)
22:22 < mtr> it is still in the build queue, i did a "Create-ErrList -newdelete" ...
22:22 < mtr> ... which gave me lots of rescheduled pkgs
22:24 < mtr> has k3b an additional gcc34 problem, or may it be the same caused by flac?
22:25 < mnemoc> we have to wait to see
22:26 < mtr> yes, i "newdeleted" the .err file, so /me waiting for next turn
23:03 < CIA-9> amery * r7433 /trunk/package/network/dnrd/ (dnrd.conf dnrd.desc instopt.patch): * updated dnrd (2.10 -> 2.19)
23:11 < mnemoc> mtr: 
23:11 < mnemoc> k3bflacdecoder.cpp: In member function `virtual QString K3bFLACDecoder::technicalInfo(const QString&) const':
23:11 < mnemoc> k3bflacdecoder.cpp:313: error: invalid conversion from `const FLAC__byte*' to `const char*'
23:11 < mnemoc> k3bflacdecoder.cpp:313: error:   initializing argument 1 of `static QString QString::fromUtf8(const char*, int)'
23:11 < mnemoc> using last k3b, but that shouldn't be hard to patch
--- Log closed Wed Mar 16 00:00:46 2005