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--- Day changed Mon Feb 28 2005
00:00 < nosfod> no /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
00:00 < rxr> ok
00:00 < rxr> chroot . lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
00:00 < rxr> does it work and output textz ?
00:01 < nosfod> let me try 
00:03 < nosfod> much output
00:03 < CIA-9> rene * r6870 /trunk/target/psion-pda/config.in: 
00:03 < CIA-9> * added libpng and links to the psion-pda target - cross builds
00:03 < CIA-9>  (libjpeg not yet - to be fixed later if I should be to over motivated)
00:04 < rxr> nosfod: ok - good!
00:04 < rxr> chroot . bin/bash does stiff complain, right ?
00:05 < rxr> still not stiff ...
00:05 < nosfod> yes
00:05 < rxr> try this:
00:05 < rxr> chroot . sbin/ldconfig
00:06 < rxr> and if that works try if chroot . bin/bash works ;-)
00:06 < nosfod> now it works
00:06 < rxr> bash, too ?
00:07 < rxr> if so cd to your t2 base directory and continoue the build by running Build-Target again ;-)
00:07 < nosfod> thanks :)
00:07 < rxr> no problem
00:08 < rxr> I shoudl add a hotfix work around for this to the build system ...
00:08 < nosfod> or at least an - this often goes wrong
00:12 < rxr> heeh - nah it shoudl just work ...
00:13 < nosfod> yes but an small x86-64 text would also work
00:14 < rxr> it will be fixed, soon
00:14 < nosfod> in the time its sometimes broken
00:14 < nosfod> ok
00:14 < rxr> mipe's work  will bemerged in next week
00:14 < rxr> and we have some other x86-64 builders here ,-)
00:52 < rxr> ok - let's see how tiny links gets ...
00:54 < rxr>  513628 Feb 28 00:53 links
00:55 < rxr> ok - without graphic ...
01:02 < rxr> 2206596 Feb 28 01:00 usr/bin/links
01:11 < rxr> 949048 Feb 28 01:10 usr/bin/links
01:11 < rxr> !!!
01:12 < rxr> and that is ARM - which is IIRC slightly larger than x86!
01:12 < rxr> my last PowerPC test was:
01:12 < rxr> 1396204 Feb 28 00:34 links
01:13 < CIA-9> rene * r6871 /trunk/target/psion-pda/ (pkg_links.conf pkg_links.patch): 
01:13 < CIA-9> * added special configuration and patch to the pda target to majorly
01:13 < CIA-9>  reduce the static NLS, codepage, font and so on stuff from links to
01:13 < CIA-9>  get it below 1MB (was >2.2MB ...)
01:21 < rxr> with that it is:
01:21 < rxr> 1035492 Feb 28 01:19 /usr/bin/links
01:21 < rxr> on powerpc
01:35 < rxr> n8 all
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02:30 < mnemoc> re
02:31 < _Ragnar_> re
02:36 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_ 
02:44 < mnemoc> hi ideal 
02:45 < ideal> Hi, mnemoc
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03:12 < CIA-9> amery * r6872 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkg_apache.conf: * added $sysconfdir/conf.d and $sysconfdir/hosts.d to mnemosyne's apache
03:13 < CIA-9> amery * r6873 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkg_php.conf: * added pre-configuration for php on mnemosyne's apache
03:14 < CIA-9> amery * r6874 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Security/ldapauth.ask: * added nss_ldap to mnemosyne's LDAP Auth
03:48 < _Ragnar_> re
03:55 < mnemoc> hi _Ragnar_ 
03:57 < CIA-9> amery * r6875 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/pkg_openldap_post.conf: * reverted 6790, thread problem on heimdal doesn't exist. i need to learn to read complete sentences.
03:57 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: did your uclibc build built?
03:57 < _Ragnar_> so far
03:57 < _Ragnar_> well okay, it lacks the library fix
04:02 < mnemoc> what library?
04:02 < _Ragnar_> any
04:03 < _Ragnar_> that's not in the standard path
04:04 < mnemoc> ld.so.conf globbing?
04:06 < _Ragnar_> yes
04:07 < _Ragnar_> but as I stated before, this only works if ld.so.cache support is enabled
04:07 < mnemoc> isn't is default?
04:07 < mnemoc> it*
04:07 < _Ragnar_> yes
04:08 < _Ragnar_> but isn't it the point that we can select non-default configurations?
04:08 < mnemoc> targets, yes
04:09 < _Ragnar_> LD_LIBRARY_PATH always works .... ld.so.cache only works sometimes ... it makes much more sense to me to do it the way it always works
04:09 < mnemoc> but target maintainer who decides to do something non-default are responsable to make them work, e.g. adding an etc/profile.d hot fix on his target
04:09 < _Ragnar_> this is for building
04:10 < mnemoc> in that case you can expand LD_LIBRARY_PATH on target's parse-config i think
04:11 < _Ragnar_> why not on the general parse-config-9?
04:12 < mnemoc> i think that expanding doesn't pay the enviroment it consumes to be included by default
04:12 < mnemoc> that's was why ld globbing was added on the first time
04:12 < _Ragnar_> that's why ld.so.cache support was added to the linker
04:12 < mnemoc> LD_LIBRARY_PATH expansion also fails on builds like mono
04:13 < mnemoc> where opt/mono/lib is needed _during_ mono's builds
04:13 < _Ragnar_> weird, LD_LIBRARY_PATH works for me with mono
04:13 < mnemoc> hehe
04:13 < mnemoc> weird
04:13 < _Ragnar_> but then I never tested the finished program
04:14 < _Ragnar_> does mono take care of running ldconfig?
04:14 < mnemoc> iirc yes
04:14 < _Ragnar_> okay then it would make sense
04:14 < mnemoc> but mono behavior may have changed
04:15 < mnemoc> before 1.1.3 you had mcs and mono packages
04:15 < mnemoc> since 1.1.3 there is a unified tarball
04:15 < _Ragnar_> ah okay
04:15 < _Ragnar_> bbl, shower
04:15 < mnemoc> cu
04:15 < _Ragnar_> I'll do the globbing support this evening
04:17 < mnemoc> :)
04:30 < CIA-9> amery * r6876 /trunk/package/database/bdb/bdb_config.sh: * fixed bdb to record the right includedir
04:57 < CIA-9> amery * r6877 /trunk/package/security/openssl/openssl.conf: * fixed openssl to record the right $sysconfdir
05:00 < CIA-9> amery * r6878 /trunk/scripts/functions: 
05:00 < CIA-9> * improved pkgprefix to have a 'testmode' (-t)
05:00 < CIA-9>  * testmode aborts, use it outside `foo` calls.
05:00 < CIA-9>  * returns PKGPREFIX_ERROR on errors on normal mode.
05:04 < mnemoc> dammit... a typo on pkggetdir
05:07  * mnemoc waiting for openssl finish rebuilding to be able to run `svn`
05:10 < CIA-9> amery * r6879 /trunk/scripts/functions: * fixed sysconfdir and localstatedir processing for prefix='usr' on pkggetdir(). SORRY.
05:15 < CIA-9> amery * r6880 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/heimdal.conf: * improved heimdal to use pkgprefix for openssl and openldap
05:36 < _Ragnar_> hi
05:37 < mnemoc> long shower :)
05:37 < _Ragnar_> I was out for dinner after
05:38 < mnemoc> :(
05:38 < CIA-9> amery * r6881 /trunk/package/security/ (cyrus-sasl/cyrus-sasl.conf cyrus-sasl2/cyrus-sasl2.desc): * improved cyrus-sasl to set includedir properly
05:38 < _Ragnar_> why :( ?
05:39 < mnemoc> long shower is nicer than a dinner :p
05:39 < _Ragnar_> :D
05:45 < CIA-9> amery * r6882 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/ (krb5-admin.init krb5-kdc.init): * changed heimdal .init files, daemon now are on $sbindir not libexec
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06:10 < CIA-9> amery * r6883 /trunk/scripts/functions: * fixed pkgprefix() to take prefix='' as a good prefix
06:14 < CIA-9> amery * r6884 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * registered ldap uid/gid (55/55)
06:23 < CIA-9> amery * r6885 /trunk/scripts/functions: * fixed just injected typo on pkgprefix()
07:04 < CIA-9> amery * r6886 /trunk/package/base/runit/packages/ (djbdns-dnscache.tail openldap-openldap_slapd.tail): * added runit/tail definition for openldap' slapd
07:11 < mnemoc> *yawn*
07:40 < CIA-9> amery * r6887 /trunk/package/security/pam_krb5/pam_krb5.conf: * changed pam_krb5 to prefix=''
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10:43 < mipe> anyone tested kde talker stuff?
11:12 < rxr_> moin
11:12 -!- You're now known as rxr
11:12 < rxr> mipe: the text to speach stuff?
11:12 < rxr> no - I did not test it ...
11:12 < rxr> moin mnemoc !
11:13 < mipe> yep text2speech stuff,i'm curious to see how it talks stuff in scottish
11:15 < rxr> it uses well known backends like festival, soo ...
11:17 < mipe> hmm,how much is 10 camels in euros?
11:18 < rxr> camels ?
11:18 < mipe> my parents and sister where in dubai they offered 10 camels from my sister if he dances(uhm,belly dance?), so i'm wondering should i send her back to earn the trip money or not
11:19 < mipe> if she
11:19 < rxr> no idea how camels translate into EUR ...
11:19 < mipe> :)
11:21 < mipe> i'm only joking,i wont send her back... 
11:21 < rxr> hehe
11:21 < mipe> just curious how much it would have been euros
11:22 < jsaw> same prices like horses I guess... so a from a few hundred to a few thousand each...?
11:23 < rxr> when my cousin was somewhere there some Sheik offer some hundrer or so camels to marry her ...
11:23 < mipe> :)
11:23 < jsaw> :)
11:27 < rxr> hi jsaw 
11:27 < jsaw> hi rxr
11:28 < jsaw> hi mipe
11:28 < mipe> hi jsaw
11:28 < jsaw> it's rather 5000$ per camel...btw.
11:28 < mipe> uhm somone fixed the sysconf setting? last night build i got sysconfig setted to /usr/etc if prefix was /etc, in quite a many packages
11:29 < mipe> damm sysconfdir setting
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13:03 < mipe> Error logs from system-2.1.0-beta4-x86-64-athlon64-desktop-expert:
13:03 < mipe>  [5] x11/xorg
13:03 < mipe> 257 builds total, 153 completed fine, 1 with errors.
13:15 < rxr> ouhm
13:15 < rxr> what's the xorg error ?
13:21 < mipe> undefined reference to inflate in freetype
13:21 < mipe> but i think i know why it is so, just have to patch some xorg makefiles and test it
13:50 < rxr> hm
14:11 < mipe> hmm,actually that error is wierd,i'd rather not patch xorg since the fault is prolly a zlib
14:14 < mipe> and why is there a bunch of *.a files in my build/*/lib,those should be in ..../usr/lib,right?
14:16 < mipe> uhm,those are lib64 dir and not lib
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14:54 < mnemoc> moin
14:55 < mnemoc> rxr: can you see what should i do to 'tail' to be able to generate minit scripts?
14:56 < rxr> hi
14:56 < mnemoc> hi :p
14:57 < rxr> mipe: we have a post processor for .a from lib to usr/lib relocation
14:57 < rxr> it needs an extension to also cover lib64 ...
14:57  * mnemoc is almost happy with pkgprefix, brb
14:57 < rxr> mnemoc: let me take a look later
14:58  * rxr doing homepage work first
15:02 < mnemoc> no problem
15:02 < rxr> the pkg stuff looks ok
15:02 < rxr> altough as usual a bit more than I would have implemented ...
15:08 < mnemoc> what wouldn't you implemented?
15:09 < rxr> the location type
15:10 < mnemoc> on var/adm/packages?
15:10 < mnemoc> knowing prefix only is not enought to know... openssl sysconfidir
15:11 < mnemoc> or do you mean pkggetdir?
15:12 < mnemoc> that helper was 'needed' to have a unified method when rendering var/adm/packages file, set_confopt and pkgprefix
15:19 < rxr> set_confopt ?
15:20 < mnemoc> yep
15:20 < CIA-9> amery * r6888 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Security/krb5.conf: * changed krb5 plugin on mnemosyne to force ldap backend when openldap is available
15:20 < mnemoc> having that code on three places lead to inconcistences
15:25 < mnemoc> but if you think different, tell me. i must learn to code according to mr. core architect view :)
15:37 < CIA-9> amery * r6889 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/ (pkg_openldap_post.conf slapd-module-smbk5pwd-v1.3.diff): * added smbk5pwd module to openldap on heimdal extension.
15:39 < rxr> no all fine 
15:42 < mipe> hmm,wierd xorg, getting ld failures on fc-cache, it doesnt use pkg-config to see needed link flags for freetype?
15:49 < rxr> no idea what xorg does in any detail ... :-(
15:51 < mipe> theres a missing -lz on that fc-cache link,trying to figure out why :(
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16:02 < rxr> hi BSM
16:03 < BSM> hi rxr, all
16:04 < mnemoc> hi BSM 
16:05 < BSM> am i right that in the build kit a ready-to-use target for a psion revo is included?
16:06 < rxr> yes ;-) mostly
16:06 < rxr> I converted it recently to uclibc - the buid result is not yet tested
16:07 < BSM> :D
16:07  * mnemoc kicks firefox
16:07 < rxr> and gcc-3.4 is used, it does not yet generate a kernel that is able to mount the root system
16:07 < rxr> the 
16:07 < rxr> released tarballs are build with 3.3 which works ..
16:07 < rxr> however I'll fix the linux24-psionw kernel for recent gcc soon
16:08 < rxr> http://dl.exactcode.de/t2-psionw/
16:08 < rxr> ^- minimal test releases 
16:08 < rxr> they are build with gcc-3.3 and dietlibc at that time ...
16:09 < rxr> the t2 trunk:HEAD includes a more complete target and is using uclibc ...
16:09 < rxr> aside the minor kernel problem the target is in quite a good shape
16:09 < rxr> BSM: are you a developer or just looking for s.th. completely polished?
16:10 < BSM> i "developed" some kind of distro for the revo .. until i got an ipaq ;)
16:10 < mnemoc> hehe
16:11 < rxr> ;-)
16:11 < BSM> coding is not my biggest fun, but build scripts, docu and testing are in my range
16:12 < rxr> ;-) wow - you are welcome - ususally it is the other way round ;-)
16:12 < BSM> thanks, maybe i'll find some time to reawake my psion
16:12 < BSM> it was a great fun to play nethack on the revo natively on linux ;)
16:14 < rxr> maybe you find T2 as a nice base for your other linux PDAs as well ;-)
16:15  * rxr shortly off - cu
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17:58 < CIA-9> rene * r6890 /trunk/scripts/functions: * fixed a unusual shell indentation in functions
18:00 < rxr>  lustre 1.2.4 (Public)
18:14 < rxr> http://ez.no/ez_publish/
18:41 < rxr> http://www.sitepoint.com/article/table-less-css-ez-publish
18:47 < rxr> the table less CSS stuff is quite attractive 
18:47 < rxr> I think I try it out tonight ...
18:52 < CIA-9> rene * r6891 /trunk/target/psion-pda/config.in: 
18:52 < CIA-9> * removed net-toosl from the pda target (the files are suppolied by
18:52 < CIA-9>  busybox now)
19:26 < mnemoc_> re
19:28 < mnemoc_> Version 1.00 of nullmailer is now available at:
19:33 < mnemoc_> rxr: _you_ using busybox??!
19:42 < rxr> mnemoc_: as test, yes
19:43 < rxr> otherwise I woudl waste too much space for e.g. vi and the ip tools when I use the normal versions ... 
19:43 < rxr> my plan is to add a option to toggle the pda target between dietlibc + acompany tools and uclibc + busybox ...
19:44 < rxr> but I do not change my mind
19:44 < rxr> I will continue to promote dietlibc and use it for all the other stuff ...
19:44 < rxr> and once dietlibc dynamic stuff matured more I'll switch back to it ...
19:44 < rxr> uclibc and busybox are ugly and to fat ...
19:45 < rxr> but compared to dietlibc they are more complete and provide a more full featured target for my "product" right now ...
19:45 < rxr> I consider testing out:
19:45 < rxr> this ez publish
19:45 < rxr> any reason why I should not do - and you would not want to have it ?
19:51 < mnemoc_> re
19:52 < mnemoc_> fefe products are greatly coded and greatly designed, _but_ he doesn't care about compatibility, that's where uclibc and busybox win. replacements are almost transparents
19:55 < _Ragnar_> is there documentation about the /etc/conf/network file format/options?
19:55 < mnemoc_> *silence*
19:55 < mnemoc_> auto eth0
19:55 < mnemoc_> interface eth0
19:55 < mnemoc_>      ip 192.168.5.1/24
19:55 < mnemoc_>      gw 10.10.10.1
19:56 < mnemoc_> interface wlan0
19:56 < mnemoc_>     dhcp
19:56 < _Ragnar_> what's the auto do?
19:57 < mnemoc_> rocknet <profile> <interace> <up|down>
19:57 < mnemoc_> auto is an 'alias'
19:57 < mnemoc_> interface=auto  does the thing to every interface set as auto
19:58 < mnemoc_> but you have to consider rockplug starts the interfaces (default) too
19:58 < mnemoc_> so auto... and network start on boot is mostly senselessz
19:59 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
20:00 < mnemoc_> hm? :p
20:00 < rxr> _Ragnar_: the handbook has documentation
20:00  * _Ragnar_ doesn't think he understands that entirely
20:00 < rxr> mnemoc_: dietlibc is compatbile ...
20:01 < rxr> mnemoc_: and mostly transparent
20:01 < rxr> the only problem I have is incomplete and x86 (and arm slightly) only dynamic library support ...
20:01 < rxr> mnemoc_: ez publish ?
20:04 < _Ragnar_> do I have auto eth0, eth0 or auto eth0 eth1
20:04 < _Ragnar_> ?
20:05 < _Ragnar_> and do I have to use a 'profile'?
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20:07 < rxr> auto eth0(home) ppp0(home)
20:07 < rxr> without coma
20:08  * _Ragnar_ obediently returns from coma
20:08 < _Ragnar_> ;)
20:08 < _Ragnar_> do I have to use a profile tag
20:08 < _Ragnar_> so*
20:12 < rxr> no
20:12 < rxr> profile is optional
20:12 < rxr> mnemoc_: still no ez publish "no do" or "test it" comment =
20:13 < mnemoc_> eZ publish with the GPL license and installation support.
20:13 < mnemoc_> $349 
20:14  * mnemoc_ fighting with the bank by phone
20:14 < rxr> it is free download
20:14 < rxr> the product site seems to be to catch willing to pay IT managers ...
20:16 < mnemoc_> :)
20:16 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
20:16 < rxr> so no "but it is soooo ugly I never will use it" comment ?
20:16 < mnemoc_> if you feel confortable with that tool, use it :)
20:16 < _Ragnar_> well you pay for the support ...
20:16 < rxr> I can read PHP myself *g*
20:18 < mnemoc_> :p
20:19 < mnemoc_> if [ "$ROCKCFG_PKG_PHP_FORCESHARED" -eq 1 ]; then 29                 pkg_php_shared="=$root/${pkg_mysql_prefix}" 30         elif pkginstalled mysql; then 31                 pkg_php_shared="=$root/${pkg_mysql_prefix}" 32         else
20:20 < mnemoc_> what sense does it make to use ${pkg_mysql_prefix} before watching if it's pkginstalled?
20:27 < rxr> no idea
20:28 < mnemoc_> -> Reading package configuration from target directory.
20:28 < mnemoc_> !> The package build aborted with the following config error:
20:28 < mnemoc_> !> pkgprefix: apache record is old, please rebuild
20:29 < mnemoc_> nice :)
20:31 < rxr> ,-)
20:45 < _Ragnar_> syslog-ng doesn't have a /sbin/init.d startup file?
20:50 < mnemoc_> echo package/*/syslog-ng/*.init
20:50  * mnemoc_ happy with socklog :p
20:53 < rxr> _Ragnar_: hm - the syslog-ng packages seem to forgot that ..
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20:53 < rxr> _Ragnar_: how is it normally started?
20:53 < c4y0> hi
20:53 < rxr> I could quickly add it ...
20:53 < rxr> hi c4y0 
20:53 < mnemoc_> hi c4y0 
20:53 < c4y0> hi all! =)
20:54 < _Ragnar_> just /usr/sbin/syslog-ng
20:54 < mnemoc_> rxr: how Makefile.in.in files are converted to Makefile ?
20:55 < _Ragnar_> hey c4y0 :)
20:56 < mnemoc_> rxr: using ezpublish can we add stuff like no-patents frontend?
20:56 < rxr> mnemoc_: as title site you mean ?
20:57 < mnemoc_> nope, as frontpage
20:57 < mnemoc_> libexif.sourceforge.net/
20:57 < rxr> mnemoc_: I meant that
20:57 < rxr> I'll find a way if we want too ... ;-)
20:58 < mnemoc_> don't we?
20:58 < rxr> mnemoc_: sorry I constatnyl keep forgetting the auto* details - they are too ugly for my brain to remember the patterns ...
20:58 < mnemoc_> i hate them
20:59  * rxr too
20:59 < rxr> the ministers will not read out page
20:59 < rxr> and others already know
20:59 < rxr> I rather keep attending demos and write ministors old-style letters 
20:59 < valentin> ack - i think a banner will do
20:59 < rxr> s/out/our/
20:59 < valentin> since most people visiting our site are open source people
21:00 < CIA-9> amery * r6892 /trunk/package/network/apache/ (apache.conf apache.init): 
21:00 < CIA-9> * improved apache.init to use D_sbindir instead of D_prefix
21:00 < CIA-9> * improved apache to use pkgprefix
21:09  * mnemoc_ needs to sleep desperately
21:10 < rxr> then sleep ! ;-)
21:10 < mnemoc_> i can't
21:10 < CIA-9> rene * r6893 /trunk/package/base/syslog-ng/ (syslog-ng.cong syslog-ng.desc syslog-ng.init): 
21:10 < CIA-9> * added .init file to syslog-ng, took over maintainship and fixed the
21:10 < CIA-9>  [U] tag
21:10 < rxr> _Ragnar_: much fun testing
21:10 < _Ragnar_> thx ;)
21:11 < mnemoc_> .oO( what was the libtool command to install something like .so? )o
21:20 < rxr> *lol*
21:20 < rxr> Download the eZ publish LiveCD ISO image (487MB)
21:20 < rxr> 487MB ???
21:21 < rxr> one can get a minimal system with X, KDE and apache/mysql/php in about 1xxMB ....
21:22 < _Ragnar_> *g*
21:22 < rxr> based on mandrake and the livecd project *g*
21:29 < rxr> damn slow iBook
21:30 < rxr> == 20:38:50 =[9]=> Building database/mysql [4.1.9 2.1.0-beta4].
21:30 < rxr> == 02/28/05 21:28:50 =[9]=> Finished building package mysql.
21:36 < mnemoc_> oh
21:58 < rxr> hm
21:58 < rxr> Version 4.3.4 or later should be used; eZ publish is not ready for PHP 5.x.x yet. 
21:58 < rxr> would not be good if that is true ...
22:00 < mnemoc_> 487MB isn't good neither
22:00 < mnemoc_> drupal?
22:00 < rxr> hehe - that is a full mandrake cd ...
22:00 < rxr> the source tarball of ez publish is just a few MB ..
22:00 < mnemoc_> :p
22:11 < mnemoc_> rxr: what do you think about drupal?
22:12 < rxr> drupal ?
22:12 < mnemoc_> drupal
22:12 < mnemoc_> http://www.drupal.org/
22:13 < CIA-9> amery * r6894 /trunk/package/develop/php/php.conf: * improved php to use pkgprefix
22:14 < rxr> mnemoc_: do you used it already ?
22:14 < mnemoc_> nope, but some friends are very happy with it
22:15 < mnemoc_> have you?
22:16 < rxr> nope ...
22:16 < rxr> otherwise I would not asked that dump *g*
22:16 < mnemoc_> :p
22:16 < rxr> does also look ok
22:17 < mnemoc_> i thought that was ironic
22:17 < mnemoc_> it has _lot_ of modules
22:17 < rxr> mnemoc_: I like that ez publish yields clean modern css styled html
22:18 < rxr> and I would rather keep the server side code small - to not get security problems to easily ...
22:18 < mnemoc_> i haven't heard about ezpublish _ever_
22:19 < mnemoc_> drupal's is css-ed too
22:19  * rxr also not about drupal ...
22:19 < mnemoc_> s/'s//
22:19 < mnemoc_> :D
22:19 < rxr> if it comes to well know status
22:19 < rxr> we must either use zope or typo3 ...
22:19 < rxr> which one do you choose *g* ?
22:21 < mnemoc_> :(
22:21 < mnemoc_> do you know anyone using ezpublish?
22:24 < rxr> nope ;-)
22:24 < rxr> I found ti today and it loked nice
22:24 < rxr> especially the css styling
22:25 < rxr> ok ok 
22:25 < rxr> I give drupal a try ...
22:26 < mnemoc_> http://drupal.org/node/10250
22:31 < CIA-9> amery * r6895 /trunk/package/network/phpldapadmin/ (. phpldapadmin.conf phpldapadmin.desc): * added phpldapadmin (0.9.5)
22:35 < CIA-9> amery * r6896 /trunk/misc/archive/AuditBuild.sh: * added simple html output to AuditBuild.sh
22:38 < CIA-9> amery * r6897 /trunk/misc/archive/AuditBuild.sh: * added custom root (-R) to AuditBuild.sh
22:40 < CIA-9> amery * r6898 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Web/PHP.conf: * added php config values for mnemosyne
22:43 < CIA-9> amery * r6899 /trunk/package/network/samba/ (samba.conf samba.init): * improved samba to use pkgprefix
22:52 < CIA-9> amery * r6900 /trunk/package/network/smbc/ (smbc.conf smbc.desc): 
22:52 < CIA-9> * updated smbc (1.1.1 -> 1.1.2)
22:52 < CIA-9> * improved smbc to use pkgprefix
22:53 < mnemoc_> rxr: psion people seems to be very happy with your achievement :)
23:00 < CIA-9> amery * r6901 /trunk/package/network/openldap/openldap.conf: 
23:00 < CIA-9> * improved openldap to use pkgprefix
23:00 < CIA-9> * fixed openldap to install it's daemons on $sbindir
23:03 < CIA-9> amery * r6902 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/ (heimdal.conf heimdal.desc): * improved heimdal to inject it's schema on opeldap' sysconfdir
23:04 < CIA-9> amery * r6903 /trunk/scripts/functions: * improved pkgprefix() to support 'prefix' as a valid dir type
23:06 < CIA-9> amery * r6904 /trunk/package/security/heimdal/ (3 files): * improved heimdal to inject and build smbk5pwd module on openldap (1.3 from openldap's HEAD)
23:11 < mnemoc_> rxr: 
23:11 < mnemoc_> usr/sbin/slmodemd: linux24 linux26
23:11 < mnemoc_> var/lib/slmodem: linux24 linux26
23:12 < CIA-9> amery * r6905 /trunk/package/network/hostap/postlinux.conf: * fixed hostap driver to not use `uname`
23:35 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.75.68.67] has quit ["BitchX-1.0c20cvs -- just do it."]
23:37 < rxr> re
23:40 < rxr> re
23:40 < rxr> oh - slmodem ...
23:40  * rxr fixing
23:42 < CIA-9> amery * r6906 /trunk/package/database/bdb/bdb.conf: * cleaned bdb.conf to do better use of includedir
23:43 < CIA-9> amery * r6907 /trunk/package/base/nssdb/nssdb.conf: * improved nssdb to use pkgprefix
23:48 < CIA-9> rene * r6908 /trunk/package/network/slmodem/ (postlinux.conf slmodem.conf): 
23:48 < CIA-9> * fixed slmodem to not install the user-space stuff in the slmodem
23:48 < CIA-9>  package and only the kernel driver in the postlinux.conf
23:48 < rxr> ^- untested - mnemoc_ could you ?
23:49 < mnemoc_> ok
23:49 < rxr> Friendly URLs - Drupal uses Apache's mod_rewrite to enable customizable URLs that are both user and search engine friendly.
23:49 < rxr> hehe
23:49 < mnemoc_> drupal is all what you want :p
23:50 < rxr> why do you promote it so much today?
23:51 < mnemoc_> not promoting... just having a bit of fun :)
23:51 < mnemoc_> i need that to stay awake
23:52 < mnemoc_> two weeks sleeping less than three hours :(
23:54 < rxr> ouh - poor mnemoc ...
23:54 < rxr> what for? to get t2 servers running ?
23:54 < mnemoc_> and the 'real' work
23:54 < mnemoc_> coding stuff on GNUe
23:55 < mnemoc_> next week i'm back on university (very relaxed) and that consumes too much time
23:56 < mnemoc_> i suppose to give an exam (4 years degree) on march 4, but i can't even write my name :\
23:58 < mnemoc_> we have two exams, licentiate in engineering after 4 years, and engineer after 7. i have been 8 but i haven't had time for studing for the exams
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