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00:24 < CIA-9> jeru * r6630 /trunk/package/network/zope/ (. config.hlp config.in zope.conf zope.desc): * added zope package
00:26 < jeru> good night ... have to zzzZZZleep now
00:27 < _Ragnar_> nini
00:28 < mnemoc_> gn8 all.... /me moving home, with his dead laptop :p
00:28 < mnemoc_> cu
00:28 < jeru> mnemoc: oh shit ... :(
00:28 < jeru> cu tomorrow
00:28 < jeru> bye folks
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01:04 < mnemoc_> re!
01:04 < mnemoc_> i have my laptop usable again
01:04 < mnemoc_> after i failed glibc update
01:11 < _Ragnar_> =)
01:11 < _Ragnar_> glibc update is evil
01:22 < mnemoc_> rxr: 5-glibc build failed silently :\
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02:13 < mnemoc_> rxr: second build passed
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02:23 < mnemoc_> hi ideal
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04:41 < mnemoc_> but on tp i guess we could do it using a template to show many pages one bellow another of a wikibook
04:41 < mnemoc_> err
04:41 < mnemoc_> wrong window
05:02 < ideal> Hi, mnemoc_. Sorry, reply lately. It's noon here, time to have lunch:) Good day.
05:05 < mnemoc_> 1am here :) cu
05:05 < mnemoc_> i'll go to sleep
05:05 < _Ragnar_> nini mnemoc_
05:06 < _Ragnar_> sleep well
05:06 < mnemoc_> gn8 _Ragnar_
05:06 < CIA-9> amery * r6631 /trunk/package/base/lvm/lvm.conf: * changed lvm to install on prefix='' properly
05:10 < CIA-9> amery * r6632 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/ (lvm2.conf lvm2.desc):
05:10 < CIA-9> * rewritten lvm2 config to properly install minimalisticly when lvm is
05:10 < CIA-9> available, to get lvm1 support when linux24 is available, and to be lvm2 only
05:10 < CIA-9> when it's not. On the last two cases, all the symlinks and man pages are
05:10 < CIA-9> correctly installed.
05:11 < CIA-9> amery * r6633 /trunk/package/base/device-mapper/ (device-mapper.conf device-mapper.desc): * rewritten device-mapper config to use prefix properly
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05:52 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jan 12 03:04:43 2005]
05:52 [Users #t2]
05:52 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
05:52 [ CIA-9 ] [ ideal ] [ mnemoc_] [ praenti] [ rxr_]
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08:30 < rxr> moin
08:38 < rxr> The Linux binutils 2.15.94.0.2.2 is released
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09:09 < CIA-9> rene * r6634 /trunk/package/base/binutils/binutils.desc: * updated binutils (2.15.94.0.2 -> 2.15.94.0.2.2)
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09:34 < rxr> ~
09:34 < rxr>
09:34 < rxr> OpenOffice.org 680 (Development)
09:34 < rxr> Changes: This release fixes bugs specific to 64-bit systems and allows the use of gcj to compile Java code. Many bugfixes and improvements have been added to the user interface.
09:36 < rxr> Mono 1.1.4 and 1.0.6 Release
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09:38 < CIA-9> jeru * r6635 /trunk/package/security/snort/snort.desc:
09:38 < CIA-9> * updated snort (2.1.1 -> 2.3.0)
09:38 < CIA-9> * changed [M] flag
09:38 < CIA-9> * Note: not tested yet! further improvements will shortly follow!
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11:31 < CIA-9> rene * r6636 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/target/bootdisk/ (build_stage1.sh build_stage2.sh):
11:31 < CIA-9> * improved bootdisk to not include any module in the 2nd stage (gets
11:31 < CIA-9> too big on PowerPC with 3 kernels ...)
11:31 < CIA-9> * include most important nls modules in the 1st_stage
11:31 < CIA-9> * improved the bootdisk to not use losetup manually - but mount -o loop
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11:51 < jeru> moin
11:58 < rxr> moin
11:59 < CIA-9> rene * r6637 /trunk/package/ (base/joe/ editors/joe/): * moved base/joe into editors/
12:24 < CIA-9> rene * r6638 /trunk/package/ (11 files in 11 dirs):
12:24 < CIA-9> * sorted base/electricfence, base/tcp_wrappers, base/tcpdump,
12:24 < CIA-9> base/irda-utils, base/portmap and base/traceroute into network/ and
12:24 < CIA-9> develop/
12:25 < CIA-9> rene * r6639 /trunk/package/ (base/isdn4k-utils/ network/isdn4k-utils/): * moved base/isdn4k-utils into network/
12:26 < mnemoc_> rxr: i have an update for ooo, but it fails because it can't find QTDIR :\
12:26 < mnemoc_> moin!
12:26 < rxr> QTDIR ?
12:26 < rxr> since when does OOO use QT ?
12:26 < mnemoc_> :(
12:26 < rxr> moin mnemoc_ !
12:27 < mnemoc_> do i commit?
12:27 < rxr> the ooo update ?
12:27 < jeru> mnemoc: moin ;)
12:27 < mnemoc_> yep
12:27 < mnemoc_> jeru: hi
12:31 < rxr> 1064 builds total, 631 completed fine, 19 with errors.
12:31 < rxr> [5] gnome14/orbit10 [5] multimedia/libmpeg
12:31 < rxr> [5] gnome14/gnome-libs14 [5] editors/xemacs-packages
12:31 < rxr> [5] gnome14/libcapplet15 [5] textproc/libxml1
12:31 < rxr> [5] gnome14/oaf10 [5] e17/efsd
12:31 < rxr> [5] gnome14/libglade10 [5] gnome2/gmime
12:31 < rxr> [5] gnome14/gconf110 [5] graphic/magicpoint
12:31 < rxr> [5] develop/avrdude [5] e17/entrance
12:31 < rxr> [5] gnome14/gnome-print10 [5] gnome2/balsa
12:31 < rxr> [5] gnome14/soup [5] perl/gtk-perl10
12:31 < rxr> [5] multimedia/ogle
12:31 < rxr> 1064 builds total, 631 completed fine, 19 with errors.
12:32 < rxr> ouhm - soem are Download missing ...
12:32 < mnemoc_> :)
12:32 < rxr> ok - only: 5-xemacs-packages.err
12:33 < mnemoc_> e17/efsd and e17/entrance have been failing for a long time
12:34 < mnemoc_> sinse when alsa-tools needs gtk1?
12:35 < rxr> longer
12:35 < mnemoc_> checking for gtk-config... no
12:37 < mnemoc_> that custmain is evil
12:37 < rxr> ouhm?
12:37 < rxr> fix it *g*
12:38 < rxr> gmime needs gtk-sharp now ?
12:39 < mnemoc_> yep, i told you some days ago
12:39 < mnemoc_> we need to re-priorize :|
12:39 < mnemoc_> and i guess that produces a loop
12:41 * rxr does manual tweaking ..
12:42 < rxr> I think we should not do any new automatic resorting
12:42 < rxr> the awk script mostly produces crap
12:42 < rxr> let's just move them around manually - and wait for the real C++ dep tracking in a future version ...
12:43 < mnemoc_> gtk-sharp asks pkg-config and builds lot of bindings
12:44 < mnemoc_> moving gtk-sharp before gmime means to relocate all gtk#-bindeables too
12:44 < rxr> I move gmime back
12:45 < mnemoc_> gmime back?
12:46 < CIA-9> amery * r6640 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-tools/alsa-tools.conf: * improved alsa-tools to only build envy4control if gtk+12 is available
12:49 < mnemoc_> rxr: xscreensaver-getimage.c:58:42: gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf-xlib.h: No such file or directory <--- does this mean gtk+12 too?
12:49 * mnemoc_ moving to office
12:51 < rxr> yep
12:52 < CIA-9> rene * r6641 /trunk/package/gnome14/orbit10/orbit10.desc: * marked orbit10 NOPARALLEL
12:54 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.1.0-beta4-x86-athlon-desktop:
12:54 < rxr> [5] multimedia/libmpeg [5] e17/efsd
12:54 < rxr> [5] graphic/magicpoint [5] e17/entrance
12:54 < rxr> [5] multimedia/ogle
12:54 < rxr> 1064 builds total, 641 completed fine, 5 with errors.
13:22 < jeru> rxr: ^ looks quite good ;)
13:25 < jeru> rxr: do you have iso's for 2.1.0-beta4-x86-athlon-desktop?
14:08 < rxr> nope - not yet
14:08 < rxr> but could have tomorrow ...
14:08 < rxr> do you need them urgently ?
14:10 < rxr> ogly was also only due to gtk+1 glade missing
14:11 < rxr> magic point most probably PARALLEL
14:14 < mnemoc_> re
14:15 < mnemoc_> magic point built here flawless :\ this PARALLELism bugs are weird
14:15 < daja77> hi rxr
14:15 < mnemoc_> hi daja77
14:15 < daja77> hi mnemoc_
14:16 < daja77> just found a really crappy coded game and followed your advice to not package such stuff and told the author about it ^^
14:17 < mnemoc_> what game?
14:18 < daja77> highmoon
14:18 < daja77> the ugliest makefile i've seen for weeks
14:18 < mnemoc_> hehe
14:18 < mnemoc_> OT: what good-to-have game do you think are we (t2) missing?
14:19 < daja77> lemme tell you when i have finished packaging ;)
14:19 < mnemoc_> ok :)
14:21 < jeru> rxr: regarding ISO's -> isn't really urgent, but it would be cool to have some to update my Athlon at home and for the Notebook of a friend ;)
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14:23 < mnemoc_> rxr: libelf and scheleutils are on bootdisk intentionaly?
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14:38 < mnemoc_> jsaw: i have an update patch for ooo-m78, but during build it screams about QTDIR. is this src680-m78 the 1.1.4 that was announced yesterday?
14:38 < mnemoc_> jsaw: m79
14:46 < rxr> my - color laser printer arrived
14:46 < rxr> quite fat - that beast ...
14:46 < mnemoc_> oh
14:47 < mnemoc_> you will have to test it for CeBIT's posters :p
14:47 < jeru> rxr: what type?
14:54 < rxr> konica minolta magic color 2430 DL
15:00 < mnemoc_> yours or you have to work on it?
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15:07 < rxr> mine ..
15:07 < rxr> to thow my 7 year old ugly ink yet out of the window ...
15:07 < rxr> (finally)
15:08 < mnemoc_> i would love to see a picture of it crashed on the street :p
15:09 < jeru> hope you're living higher than 1st. floor ;)
15:09 < mnemoc_> hehe
15:22 < mnemoc_> install_wrapper considered harmfull
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15:31 < c4y0> hello world =)
15:31 < mnemoc_> hi c4y0
15:37 < c4y0> hello mnemoc_ ! =)
15:40 < rxr> mnemoc_: ?
15:41 < rxr> install_wrapper what ?
15:41 < mnemoc_> silently rename stuff using a bash script is dangerous, just that
15:41 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.1.0-beta4-x86-athlon-desktop:
15:41 < rxr> [5] e17/efsd [5] e17/entrance
15:41 < rxr> 1057 builds total, 657 completed fine, 2 with errors.
15:41 < mnemoc_> :)
15:41 < mnemoc_> rxr: beta3?
15:41 < rxr> nope - trunk
15:41 < rxr> !
15:42 < mnemoc_> *g*, i know that is beta4, i'm asking for beta3 :)
15:45 < rxr> yes
15:45 < rxr> my iBook is busy getting a print job via the network to the new printer
15:45 < rxr> when I know it works I test the new ppc CD i already burned ...
15:45 < mnemoc_> ok
16:04 < mnemoc_> rxr: do you know why vga=ask doesn't work on bootdisk?
16:18 < rxr> nope
16:19 < CIA-9> amery * r6642 /trunk/package/base/ (lvm/lvm.conf lvm/lvm.desc lvm2/lvm2.conf lvm2/lvm2.desc):
16:19 < CIA-9> * changed lvm/lvm2 interaction logic, lvm will install with suffix '.lvm1' if
16:19 < CIA-9> lvm2 is installed. lvm2 will have the default tools and fallback to $0.lvm1 is
16:19 < CIA-9> enabled. if linux24 is not installed. lvm2 will always support LVM1 metadata.
16:20 < mnemoc_> .oO( too verbose )o
16:20 < CIA-9> amery * r6643 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap12/: * created bincimap12 as a copy of bincimap(1.2.11) part 1/3
16:22 < CIA-9> amery * r6644 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap12/ (6 files): * renamed bincimap12 files to bincimap12 - part 2/3
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16:23 < mnemoc_> what happens to george's link?
16:25 < CIA-9> amery * r6645 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap/bincimap.desc: * updated bincimap (1.2.11final -> 1.3.3)
16:27 < mnemoc_> part 3/3 :|
16:28 < mnemoc_> *tired*
16:31 < CIA-9> amery * r6646 /trunk/package/base/lvm/suffix_for_tools.patch: * added forgoten patch for lvm, suffix support.
16:37 < rxr> jsaw just called to tell me happily his 2nd child "was released to the public", today ;-)
16:39 < mnemoc_> :D
16:39 < jeru> :D
16:40 < mnemoc_> our announcement must include a header about :D
16:41 < rxr> yeah - how was the new borns name ...?
16:41 * rxr too confused over that my printer does not support Post Script(tm)
16:41 < rxr> where I thought made sure that it deos ..
16:42 < rxr> however it only has Konica Minolta Raster Language.
16:42 < rxr> damn
16:42 < rxr> and altough it lists Linux as supported it only included a RedHat binary only driver
16:43 < mnemoc_> rxr: $x1 Stella $x3?
16:43 < mnemoc_> is the first is $x1 Stella $x3 and this is $x1p Luna $x2p?
16:52 < CIA-9> amery * r6647 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ (config.in ooo.conf ooo.desc):
16:52 < CIA-9> * updated ooo (1.9-m74 -> 1.9-m79)
16:52 < CIA-9> * fixed ooo config.in to use the right conf vars
16:53 < jeru> moving home
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16:54 < rxr> hm - at least the binary only driver does just work smoothly on my T2 Athlon ...
16:54 < rxr> although it is not RedHat or Suse *g*
16:56 < mnemoc_> postscript?
16:56 < rxr> no postscript ...
16:56 < rxr> see above :-(
16:57 < mnemoc_> did you know when you bought it?
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17:13 < rxr> nope - I brought it because I read somewhere that the 2430 does PS - unlike the cheaper 2400 ...
17:18 < mnemoc_> :|
17:19 < mnemoc_> great! finally lvm convertion worked from bootdisk
17:19 < rxr> I will overlife it
17:19 < mnemoc_> rxr: how? printing from osx?
17:20 < mnemoc_> .oO( should i add lvm2/device-mapper to bootdisk by deafult? )o
17:20 < rxr> mnemoc_: as I wrote it ships with a binary only x86 Linux cups driver ...
17:21 < mnemoc_> i thought those didn't worked on your amd
17:22 < mnemoc_> stone running on dialog-1/bootdisk :D
17:24 < rxr> nope - they work
17:26 < mnemoc_> :)
17:27 < rxr> but my intention was not to invest into a laser printer that needs pre rastered data I only can get out of a x86 linux system ...
17:27 < rxr> especially when prerastering takes huge amounts of CPU power even on my XP 2500+ ...
17:29 < mnemoc_> will you return it then?
17:29 < rxr> hm - I guess now it is here I'll use it ...
17:30 < rxr> although it was on online order - and the law allows return if not pleased for online orders here ...
17:30 < rxr> hm - and the LCD display is hard to read
17:30 < rxr> according to the spec it should have backlight - but I can see no backlight on mine ...
17:30 < mnemoc_> will you return it then? :)
17:35 < mnemoc_> if you are disapointed i see no reason to keep it
17:51 * rxr testing the PowerPC CD ... cu
17:52 < mnemoc_> cu rxr
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18:30 < mipe> whats the intended lib structure for x86_64, lib having 32bit and lib64 having 64bit, or lib having 64bit and lib32 having 32bit?
18:30 < mipe> and glibc32 fails :(
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19:02 < mipe> wierd,glibc32 fails but no visible error,just "no 1-glibc32.log file"
19:03 < _Ragnar_> moin
19:03 < mipe> hi ragnar
19:18 < CIA-9> ragnar * r6648 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/curl-10-fputc-decl.patch: * patch not needed any more, curl now uses its own fputs-clone
19:33 < jsaw> Charlotte Theresa Luna, 49cm, 3.6kg :))))) (I'm gone again, cu later!)
19:33 < daja77> congrats jsaw
19:34 < jsaw> thanks a lot!
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19:45 < valentin> jsaw: Congratulations !
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20:07 < mnemoc_> re
20:07 < mipe> hi mnemoc
20:07 < mnemoc_> jsaw: how is she (charlotte)?? and she (wife)?
20:07 < mnemoc_> hi mipe
20:13 < mipe> what kind of error is this: "no 1-glibc32.log file" , it tries to check that file before 1-glibc32.out is moved as 1-glibc32.log
20:14 < _Ragnar_> ooh
20:16 < mnemoc_> that happens some times when you Cleanup during a build
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20:25 < rxr> moin
20:25 < rxr> the kde 3.4 kdpdf rocks like hell ...
20:25 < rxr> unbelievable ...
20:26 < rxr> mipe: can you enable xtrace and send me the resulting .err file ...
20:27 < rxr> this no .log file is a stupied diagnostic output you get on all errors during the build AFAIR
20:31 < mnemoc_> ic
20:31 < _Ragnar_> rxr: can I commit the libgcc visibility patch so that it gets tested?
20:35 < mipe> rxr:i'll rebuild with xtrace on, but glibc32 install target install-lib doesnt install libc.so(not included on that target),i cant find the correct target other than ${inst_dir}${slibdir}/libc.so, but can that be correct one?
20:36 < rxr> hm
20:36 < rxr> here it installed it as far as I remember ...
20:42 < CIA-9> rene * r6649 /trunk/package/x11/xorg/stone_mod_xorg.sh:
20:42 < CIA-9> * fixed xorg stone module to offer editing the new xorg.conf not the
20:42 < CIA-9> old XF86Config
20:42 < CIA-9> * made file copy visible, so users are not confused from the X
20:42 < CIA-9> message that the detected stuff is stored in /root/xorg.conf.new
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20:47 < CIA-9> amery * r6650 /trunk/package/office/ooo/ (ooo.conf ooo.desc):
20:47 < CIA-9> * downdated ooo (1.9-m79 -> 1.9-m78), current ooo-build doesn't want to use m79.
20:47 < CIA-9> * decustmain-ized ooo
20:48 < mipe> hmm,well with only install-lib as target it doenst give that "no 1-glibc32.log file" error, gives build/system-*/usr/lib/libc.so no such file error
20:48 < mipe> but still want the log?
20:49 < mnemoc_> /usr/lib?????
20:50 < mipe> yeah
21:13 < rxr> rehi
21:13 < rxr> _Ragnar_: yep feel free to commit it
21:14 < rxr> mipe: yes log please
21:16 < rxr> so
21:17 * rxr now in a fresh T2 X on my iBook
21:17 < mnemoc_> :)
21:17 < mnemoc_> how does it performes?
21:19 < mipe> rxr:http://koti.japo.fi/~pmika/glibc32-err-log.tar.bz2
21:20 < rxr> ok - some moments
21:21 < mipe> back later...
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21:21 < CIA-9> amery * r6651 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/stone_mod_install.sh: * improved `stone install` to support lvm2 in addition to lvm1
21:28 < rxr> re
21:30 < rxr> regenerating the ppc ISO a last time (shadow rebuild missing) and then release ...
21:30 < rxr> should be name it after jsaw child
21:30 < rxr> ?
21:31 < mnemoc_> rxr: can you check on stone setup -> LOCALE -> two after irish if you get a parsing problem too?
21:31 < mnemoc_> rxr: please, rephrase :(
21:32 < rxr> what?
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21:32 < mnemoc_> "should be name it after jsaw child"
21:33 < rxr> -beta3 ...
21:33 < rxr> or rather final ?
21:33 < rxr> what do you want me to check in stone ?
21:33 < mnemoc_> i think Charlotte deserves a big release
21:33 < rxr> yeah - right
21:33 < mnemoc_> 2.1.0
21:33 < mnemoc_> :)
21:34 < mnemoc_> i think beta3 name should be related to the delay it had
21:35 < rxr> dum di dum
21:35 < mnemoc_> stone setup -> LOCALE ... parsing problem on Geez*
21:35 < rxr> delay what ?
21:35 < rxr> mom
21:35 < mnemoc_> it is one month late :p
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21:38 < rxr> which no. is geez* ?
21:38 < rxr> oh yes
21:38 < rxr> see it ...
21:38 < rxr> you fix it ?
21:38 < rxr> or must I ?
21:38 < rxr> or, ...
21:38 < mipe> ?
21:38 < rxr> moin mipe
21:38 < mipe> hi
21:39 < rxr> mipe: can you please just compress single files? e.g. not place them in a tar ?? ;-)
21:39 < mipe> ok :)
21:39 < mnemoc_> rxr: 107
21:40 < mnemoc_> cool! irssi makefile use curl to grab glib and others if it don't find them
21:41 < rxr> ouh my f*ck
21:42 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
21:42 < _Ragnar_> wt*
21:43 < _Ragnar_> *grrr* how do I manage to lock the terminal again and again ...;p
21:43 < mnemoc_> ctrl-s?
21:44 < _Ragnar_> then ctrl+q should make it work again, but it doesn't
21:44 < mnemoc_> ctrl-a ctrl-k :)
21:46 < _Ragnar_> ~. and loggin in again works, too;p
21:47 < mnemoc_> :)
21:47 < CIA-9> rene * r6652 /trunk/scripts/Build-Tools: * hardened flist wrapper libc detection and fixed it fot libc64 systems
22:00 < rxr> 21:50 do not yet download rsync in progress
22:00 < rxr> 21:58 * rxr writing the release announcement
22:01 < _Ragnar_> why would this run endlessly:
22:01 < _Ragnar_> /bin/sh -c uname -m | sed -e s/i.86/i386/ -e s/sun4u/sparc64/ -e s/arm.*/arm/ -e s/sa110/arm/
22:01 < mnemoc_> o_O
22:02 < valentin> _Ragnar_: that runs endlessly ?
22:02 < rxr> doesn't here ..
22:02 < rxr> sed bug ?
22:02 < valentin> what does /bin/sh -c uname -m print ?
22:03 < _Ragnar_> fl_wrapper.log contains this:
22:03 < _Ragnar_> bash(Build-Pkg)*.make*.sh.open: /TOOLCHAIN/src.ltrace.1108759253.29827.fad8824d/ltrace-0.3.36/sysdeps/linux-gnu/..
22:03 < _Ragnar_> bash(Build-Pkg)*.make*.sh.open: /TOOLCHAIN/src.ltrace.1108759253.29827.fad8824d/ltrace-0.3.36/sysdeps/linux-gnu/../..
22:04 < _Ragnar_> ...
22:04 < _Ragnar_> bash(Build-Pkg)*.make*.sh.open: /TOOLCHAIN/src.ltrace.1108759253.29827.fad8824d/ltrace-0.3.36/sysdeps/linux-gnu/../../../../..
22:04 < _Ragnar_> bash(Build-Pkg)*.make*.sh.open: /TOOLCHAIN/src.ltrace.1108759253.29827.fad8824d/ltrace-0.3.36/sysdeps/linux-gnu/../../../..
22:04 < _Ragnar_> } repeat(forever);
22:05 * _Ragnar_ disables ltrace
22:05 < rxr> IPsec-Tools 0.5
22:06 < rxr> "The Inquirer has a story that the next generation of Windows spyware and exploits are starting to make use of "kernel rootkits"
22:06 < _Ragnar_> valentin: it prints 'Linux'
22:07 < valentin> hm .. seems like an sed bug or sth - can you play around with the expressions
22:07 < valentin> rxr: _root_kits ?
22:09 < _Ragnar_> hmmm 'uname -m' displays 'i686'
22:12 < _Ragnar_> bbl, food
22:13 < valentin> me too
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22:45 < jsaw> re
22:46 < rxr> hi jsaw !
22:46 < jsaw> hi rxr
22:46 < rxr> how are you ?
22:46 < jsaw> fine, thanks.
22:47 < rxr> and, all the others in your familly ?
22:47 < CIA-9> rene * r6653 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/etc_filesystems.txt: * added hfsplus to etc/filesystems
22:48 < mnemoc_> jsaw: hi! how are charlotte and your wife?
22:49 < jsaw> Charlotte is fine, too. Everything checked, still a bit fluid in the lungs but that's nothing special. Steffi has some more problems. The wounds from the cesaerian started aching, but they gave here something against the pains. Hope both can sleep well tonight.
22:49 < jsaw> hi mnemoc_
22:50 < mnemoc_> second cesarea?
22:53 < jsaw> was a bit crazy today: around 8.30am, Steffi made a wrong move and got a "Hexenschuss" (lumbago?) or so. She couldn't move and was lying on the floor. Even with my help, no chance to stand up. It took about 2h until we made up our minds, well actually until she made up here mind (I slept until then about 3h, so my body was present but the rest still sleeping...), then we called for helped and let her carry to our hospital...
22:53 < jsaw> which is actually only 200m away.
22:55 < jsaw> There, after quite some talks, the decision was clear: one cannot check what's wrong with the spinal cord as long as she's pregnant. And as the caclulated birth would be tomorrow, the best thing to do... is a cesaerian
22:58 < rxr> do you already know if all is ok with her spinal cord ?
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23:04 < jsaw> these admins are getting on my nerves...
23:04 < valentin> you don't need a clock *g*
23:04 < valentin> congratulations, btw
23:04 < jsaw> did I miss some comment between 22:57 and 23:06
23:04 < jsaw> hi valentin
23:04 < jsaw> thanks!
23:04 < valentin> 22:59 < rxr> do you already know if all is ok with her spinal cord ?
23:05 < jsaw> when are you due, valentin ?
23:05 < jsaw> rxr: will be checked tomorrow
23:05 < valentin> with our child ?
23:05 < jsaw> they hope it was resolved by the PDA
23:06 < jsaw> valentin: yep
23:06 < valentin> end of july
23:06 < valentin> not sure yet
23:07 < mnemoc_> jsaw: how many days woman have on hospital after cesaerian there? 4-5 here
23:08 < jsaw> here, too, up to one week
23:09 < jsaw> oh, PDA = Peridural Anesthesie
23:10 < mnemoc_> :)
23:10 < jsaw> :D
23:11 < mnemoc_> how is your 'old' daughter?
23:11 < jsaw> She was extermely sweet today. Incredible.
23:11 < mnemoc_> mine got angry because she was expecting to have one too
23:11 < valentin> hehe
23:11 < mnemoc_> :)
23:12 < jsaw> :)
23:12 < valentin> how old are your kids
23:12 < valentin> ?
23:12 < jsaw> I assume, Marlene will consider Charlotte her private property sooner or later..
23:12 < mnemoc_> 4 and 1 here
23:12 < jsaw> 3 and 0 here :)
23:12 < mnemoc_> :D
23:13 < mnemoc_> good offset :)
23:13 < jsaw> only difference between me and mnemoc_, I'm almost 100, he's still young
23:13 < jsaw> :)
23:14 < mnemoc_> how old are you?
23:14 < valentin> so i shedule my second for 2008
23:14 < jsaw> valentin: :D good idea!!!
23:14 < jsaw> mnemoc_: 32
23:14 < mnemoc_> valentin: you have a daughter too?
23:14 < mnemoc_> mnemoc+5 :)
23:14 < jsaw> mnemoc_: soon
23:14 < valentin> no, i'll get my child end of july
23:15 < jsaw> gender known yet?
23:15 < mnemoc_> oh, we will have to speed up 2.2
23:15 < jsaw> lol
23:15 < valentin> jsaw: no, not yes
23:15 < valentin> s/s/t
23:15 < mnemoc_> 2.0: Rafaella, 2.1:Charlotte, 2.2:valentina :p
23:15 < valentin> :)
23:15 < jsaw> *grin*
23:16 < mnemoc_> rene has time until 2.3 :)
23:16 < jsaw> *LOL*
23:16 < jsaw> susanne, are you around?
23:16 < mnemoc_> hehe
23:16 < rxr> nope - she is in bed ...
23:17 < rxr> but I hope none 2.x release will carry the name of a child of mine ...
23:17 < mnemoc_> :(
23:17 < jsaw> I told rxr today on the phone, better wait until you finished education... saves quite some nerves...
23:18 < jsaw> OTOH, the older you are, the faster you loose nerves...
23:18 < mnemoc_> ACK
23:18 < rxr> and susan hopes even more - although she has her every few months "aiieee I might be pregnant" phase ...
23:19 < rxr> jsaw: don't you get more relaxed the older you grow ?
23:19 * mnemoc_ votes for 2.3
23:19 < mnemoc_> :)
23:20 < rxr> There where 602 changesets with 933 lines of commit messages.
23:20 < rxr> Approximately 179 packages got updates, 198 issues fixed, 179 packages or features added and 37 removed.
23:20 < rxr> Arround 46 improvements have been committed.
23:20 < rxr> Commits by contributor:
23:20 < rxr> 244 rene
23:20 < rxr> 214 mnemoc
23:20 < rxr> 122 jsaw
23:20 < rxr> 8 miguel
23:20 < rxr> 8 jeru
23:20 < rxr> 3 martin
23:20 < rxr> 2 susan
23:20 < rxr> 1 lars
23:20 < rxr> beta2 -> beta3
23:20 < rxr> just rewrote my CreateChangeSummary.sh
23:20 < mnemoc_> on beta4 i'll kick your ass :)
23:20 < rxr> yep
23:20 < rxr> definetly ...
23:21 < jsaw> :)
23:21 < jsaw> rxr: depends on the number of children you have. The more children the faster you get relaxed...
23:21 < mnemoc_> uhm?
23:22 < jsaw> 23:22 < rxr> jsaw: don't you get more relaxed the older you grow ?
23:22 < mnemoc_> may be with sons, but not with daughters
23:22 < jsaw> lol
23:24 < jsaw> mnemoc_: oh, you're doing ooo work *great*, do you get it to compile?
23:24 < mnemoc_> QTDIR :(
23:24 < jsaw> qtdir?
23:24 < jsaw> oh KDE support...
23:25 < mnemoc_> QTDIR is exported but it doesn't reach the deeper level where it is needed
23:25 < mnemoc_> i think it's unset somewhere
23:25 < rxr> wonderful ...
23:25 < rxr> I know why I do not invest time into ooo
23:26 < rxr> strange
23:26 < rxr> after my shadow rebuild the iso for ppp
23:26 < rxr> ppc got significantly smaller
23:26 < rxr> quite strange ...
23:27 < jsaw> I like ooo.
23:27 < rxr> it is far too fat and slow ...
23:27 < rxr> for my meassurements ...
23:27 < jsaw> A bit clumsy on many edges. But still the best in comparison to abiword etal...
23:28 < jsaw> But my favourite is and will be: latex...
23:28 * rxr using koffice ...
23:28 < rxr> and since latex has usable utf8 tables it is used again
23:28 < jsaw> :)
23:29 < jsaw> How good is the MS Import-Export in koffice?
23:30 < rxr> import bare export none
23:30 < rxr> IIRC
23:30 < rxr> beta3 -> trunk right now:
23:30 < rxr> There where 816 changesets with 1091 lines of commit messages.
23:30 < rxr> Approximately 402 packages got updates, 184 issues fixed, 402 packages or features added and 32 removed.
23:30 < rxr> Arround 26 improvements have been committed.
23:30 < rxr> Commits by contributor:
23:30 < rxr> 309 amery
23:30 < rxr> 216 rene
23:30 < rxr> 212 mnemoc
23:30 < rxr> 18 jsaw
23:30 < rxr> 18 jeru
23:30 < rxr> 16 miguel
23:30 < rxr> 14 ragnar
23:30 < rxr> 6 mtr
23:30 < rxr> 4 miguelb
23:31 < jsaw> That's the problem. I don't like to use a office suit which is not able to at least do a good ms-word import... I need that once in a while...
23:31 < jsaw> wow
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23:32 < mnemoc> :(
23:32 < rxr> sad due to amery != mnemoc ?
23:32 < rxr> I can add them manually for the mail paste ...
23:33 < mnemoc> sad due to my random disconections
23:33 < mnemoc> what did i missed after :27:20?
23:33 < rxr> ouhm
23:34 < jsaw> about 50 lines...
23:34 < mnemoc> oh
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> beta3 -> trunk right now:
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> There where 816 changesets with 1091 lines of commit messages.
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> Approximately 402 packages got updates, 184 issues fixed, 402
23:34 < rxr> packages or features added and 32 removed.
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> Arround 26 improvements have been committed.
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> Commits by contributor:
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> 309 amery
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> 216 rene
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> 212 mnemoc
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> 18 jsaw
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> 18 jeru
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> 16 miguel
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> 14 ragnar
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> 6 mtr
23:34 < rxr> 23:30 < rxr> 4 miguelb
23:35 < jsaw> 521 for amore
23:35 < jsaw> eh I mean amery
23:35 < jsaw> :)
23:35 < mnemoc> :)
23:36 < mnemoc> how do you calculate 'updates' 'fixes' 'features' and 'removed'?
23:36 < mnemoc> and 'improvements'
23:36 < rxr> some dump greps ...
23:36 < rxr> mnemoc: you know the source of the script *t*
23:36 < rxr> *g*
23:36 < mnemoc> ok ok
23:36 < mnemoc> i'll read the source
23:36 < rxr> jsaw: hm - I wonder if the numbers are right - havn't you done more ...
23:37 < mnemoc> i'm not sure
23:41 < rxr> hm - yep the no. are ok
23:41 < rxr> hm - mnemoc announce now with ppc ISOs syninc
23:41 < rxr> or in the morning ... ?
23:41 < rxr> hm - I leave the prev. shadow bug images there
23:41 < rxr> and rsync into an incomming ...
23:43 < mnemoc> considering we have been waiting for the good iso-s all this time
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23:43 < mnemoc> lets wait for the good isos
23:43 < rxr> most people would not grab the ppc ones anyway
23:43 < rxr> and the new ones are strangely tinier
23:43 < rxr> and valentin will test them around lunch or so ..
23:44 < mnemoc> uhm
23:44 < jsaw> rxr: haven't had much time lately...
23:44 < rxr> I announce now and move the new ones into the folder when valentin confirms they work ...
23:44 < rxr> jsaw: no problem ... ,-)
23:44 < mnemoc> jsaw: relax :)
23:45 < rxr> yeah - feed your child(s)
23:45 < mnemoc> :)
23:46 < mnemoc> rene will have to wait too much for that pleasure
23:46 < _Ragnar_> ;)
23:46 < jsaw> hehe
23:51 < mnemoc> vgchange seems to need rw filesystem :/
23:53 < jsaw> okay, guys. I should sleep now. cu tomorrow or so
23:53 < valentin> gn8 jsaw
23:53 < rxr> jsaw: sleep well
23:55 < mnemoc> cu js
23:55 < rxr> I choosed "serpentine" as release name ...
23:55 < rxr> ok for all ?
23:55 < rxr> or s.th. better?
23:55 < mnemoc> why?
23:56 < mnemoc> what's the /meaning/ of the release name?
23:57 < rxr> those long winding roads that are on w
23:57 < rxr> very high mountains (IIRC)
23:58 < mnemoc> nice :)
23:58 < valentin> there is the serpent, that lures you on the evil side
23:59 < _Ragnar_> *hrhr*
23:59 < mnemoc> insmod writes on /var/run as modprobe ?
23:59 < mnemoc> /var/lock/lvm :(
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