--- Log opened Thu Feb 17 00:00:28 2005 00:07 < rxr> mnemoc: this is really strange 00:07 < rxr> in the build it is correctly linked: 00:07 < rxr> debug-gettext:[src]# ldd .libs/msgfmt 00:07 < rxr> /usr/src/t2-test/build/default-2.1.0-beta4-x86-pentium4-mnemosyne-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so => /usr/src/t2-test/build/default-2.1.0-beta4-x86-pentium4-mnemosyne-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so (0x40014000) 00:07 < rxr> libgettextsrc-0.14.1.so => not found 00:07 < rxr> libgettextlib-0.14.1.so => not found 00:07 < rxr> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001d000) 00:07 < rxr> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40140000) 00:07 < rxr> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) 00:08 < mnemoc> who is linked to 0.12 then? 00:08 < rxr> [23:08] [root@ferrari(tty)bin]# md5sum msgfmt 00:08 < rxr> 8efe12752d93095715a431bddbb681e4 msgfmt 00:08 < rxr> debug-gettext:[src]# md5sum .libs/msgfmt 00:08 < rxr> 8efe12752d93095715a431bddbb681e4 .libs/msgfmt 00:08 < rxr> strange 00:10 < rxr> # strings msgfmt | grep gettext 00:10 < rxr> libgettextsrc-0.14.1.so 00:10 < rxr> libgettextlib-0.14.1.so 00:10 < rxr> hm - momment 00:10 < mnemoc> grep libgettextlib -R build/default-*/ 00:11 < rxr> currently the file is really valid .. 00:11 < rxr> let me rebuld it 00:15 * mnemoc moving home 00:15 < rxr> cu mnemoc 00:15 < mnemoc> good luck :) 00:22 < rxr> libtool: install: warning: remember to run `libtool --finish /usr/lib' 00:22 < rxr> ??? 00:23 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:23 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 00:46 < mnemoc> re 00:46 < mnemoc> uhm? 00:48 < rxr> ? 00:48 < mnemoc> libtool thing 00:50 < mnemoc> 1429 builds total, 1358 completed fine, 71 with errors. 00:50 < rxr> http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-06/msg00196.html 00:50 < rxr> yes it is 00:54 < mnemoc> brb 01:03 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:03 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 01:05 < rxr> mnemoc: can you hack gettext not to relink ? 01:06 < rxr> I would like to join my bed - and the latency is quite a bit preventing me from typing fast 01:07 < rxr> maybe just hack around in gettext-tools/libtool - just defining relink_command="" after the relink command was puzzled together did not do the trick .-( 01:09 < mnemoc> re 01:10 < mnemoc> i have never hacked libtool.... i'll try 01:15 < _Ragnar_> good lucl 01:15 < _Ragnar_> luck* 01:16 < rxr> ok - /me still at it 01:18 < mnemoc> i decompress it on $base 01:18 < rxr> ok - my relink_command="" might work 01:18 < rxr> I just need to appyl it 01:18 < rxr> to the libraries, too 01:18 * mnemoc greping 01:19 < mnemoc> on config/ltmain.sh?? 01:20 < rxr> I used src/libtool 01:21 < mnemoc> i don't see that file 01:22 < rxr> sorry 01:22 < rxr> gettext-0.14.1/gettext-tools/libtool 01:23 < daja77> .oO ( I hate it ) 01:23 < mnemoc> daja77: libtool or gettext? 01:23 < daja77> erh both but not referring to these atm 01:24 < mnemoc> what are you hating atm? 01:24 < daja77> glib and gnome c++ dependencies 01:25 < rxr> ? 01:26 < daja77> i want to package a game, that needs libxml++, which needs sigc++ and glibmm, and other crap 01:26 < rxr> but all those ar e 01:26 < rxr> not gnome core ... 01:27 < mnemoc> nfsutils depending on openldap is cool :) 01:27 < daja77> gnome core consists of 1000 packages ... 01:28 < daja77> mnemoc: huh? 01:28 < mnemoc> nfsv4 support needs libnfsidmap and libnfsidmap needs openldap 01:29 < daja77> ok don't tell me more now ;) 01:29 < mnemoc> :) 01:29 < rxr> Space.com is reporting that '[a] pair of NASA scientists told a group of space officials at a private meeting here Sunday that they have found strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars, hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water.' 01:29 < daja77> caveman on mars 01:29 < mnemoc> i prefer 10000 packages where i can install just what i want than 10 packages which are a bunch of crap were i only want to install 10% 01:30 < mnemoc> oh 01:30 < daja77> haha, of course you'd need all of the 10000 packages 01:30 < daja77> perhaps minus 3 ^^ 01:30 < mnemoc> :) 01:32 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/update.list <--- too many updates to fix :'( 01:33 < daja77> >_< 01:33 < daja77> == 02/17/05 01:32:55 =[9]=> Aborted building package libxml++. 01:33 < mnemoc> new dep? 01:33 < daja77> !> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `insert_example_code .. 01:33 < daja77> what a crap 01:33 < mnemoc> T2 or rock? 01:34 < mnemoc> if T2 maybe a NOPARALLEL fix it 01:34 < daja77> rock 01:34 < mnemoc> :( 01:34 < daja77> it is not build parallel in any way 01:36 < mnemoc> some Makefile silently create files where there are no rules for them so parallel build fails, but afaik rock doesn't build parallel 01:37 < rxr> yep - ROCK has no parallel 01:39 < daja77> no it it seems that this file is just lacking - a perl skript, in the examples directory 01:39 < daja77> I wonder if that ever built for anyone 01:39 < mnemoc> :( 01:40 < rxr> mnemoc: do you do s.th. to the net of that box 01:40 < rxr> currently latency goes up to > 2s ... 01:40 < mnemoc> nothing 01:41 < daja77> rofl 01:41 < daja77> first match on the ml 01:41 < daja77> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6577456&forum_id=12784 01:41 < daja77> but of course not flagging this release as broken 01:41 < mnemoc> but international bandwidth is very expensive for dedicated links here 01:42 < daja77> trying to downgrade 01:42 < mnemoc> daja77: grab it from cvs :) 01:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:42 < mnemoc> most companies here have 10Mb/128kb national/int'l 01:43 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 01:43 < mnemoc> wb jsaw 01:43 < daja77> and diffing, i don't care which version it is exactly, it just have to work 01:44 < mnemoc> some times i just [D] from webcvs and inject it :) 01:44 < daja77> i want to go to bed ... 01:44 < daja77> it is the last dep before that damn game will build ^^ 01:45 < mnemoc> :D 01:45 < rxr> and you know what? When it built it will not run properly ... ;-) 01:46 < daja77> don't think so, the game release is older than the lib's crap release ^^ 01:46 < mnemoc> rxr: none of my .err are related to dialog, and gasgui is fixed. can i commit (0.9b-20030308 -> 1.0-20050206)? 01:46 < mnemoc> daja77: hehe 01:47 < mnemoc> brb 01:47 < daja77> argh 01:48 < daja77> it doesn't build anyway 01:48 < daja77> i go now 01:48 < rxr> what the h*ll is this in our gettext.desc: 01:48 < rxr> [E] opt gettext 01:48 < rxr> hm 01:48 < rxr> 3789 rene [E] opt gettext 01:49 < rxr> strange the log does not really match the change ..... 01:51 < daja77> ah i know why 01:51 < rxr> ? 01:51 * daja77 wants to kick libxml++ 01:52 < daja77> the headers are expected to be in /usr/include/libxml++ 01:52 -!- pitti [~pitti@pD9E76F0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 01:52 < daja77> and they've put them under usr/include/libxml++-2.6/libxml++ 01:52 < daja77> >_< 01:54 < rxr> are you sure 01:54 < rxr> this versioned header stuff is common practice among some gnome junk packages ... 01:54 < daja77> yes mine -l tells me 01:55 < daja77> interesting enough they call it libxml++2.6, while having version 2.9 meanwhile 01:56 < daja77> quick fix could be to add a postmake hook which creates a symlink 01:57 < rxr> daja77: is the rock channel that orphaned that you rather discuss your rock packaging here? 01:57 < daja77> atm yes, i can stop if you like 01:58 < rxr> no - feel free to hang around 01:58 < rxr> I just wondered ... 01:59 < daja77> ^^ 01:59 < daja77> guess the packages will work for t2 as well 02:01 < rxr> daja77: http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png 02:01 < rxr> mnemoc: not using DESTDIR work arounds it .. 02:01 < rxr> I hope the gettext stuff does not hardcode pathes I work around it that way ... 02:05 < mnemoc> re 02:05 < CIA-9> rene * r6609 /trunk/scripts/functions: * only inject DESTDIR (and alike) into makeopt - not makeinstopt 02:05 < rxr> mnemoc: when I commit in 4 minuets, should I wipe your auth cache, let you commit or scp home? 02:06 -!- pitti_ [~pitti@pD9E76383.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:08 < mnemoc> commit or scp what? 02:08 < rxr> the fix 02:08 < mnemoc> wipe my auth is fine, as far as you wipe it again after that 02:08 < rxr> there is --no-auth-cache or so ... 02:09 < mnemoc> :) 02:09 < mnemoc> wipe and commit :) it is your hack :p 02:10 < mnemoc> * only inject DESTDIR (and alike) into makeopt - not makeinstopt <--- this doesn't make sense to me 02:13 < rxr> erhm - of course it is the other way round 02:13 < rxr> sorry /me too tired ... 02:13 < rxr> only inject into makeinstopt ... 02:14 < mnemoc> :) 02:21 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 02:22 < rxr> hi ideal 02:26 -!- pitti [~pitti@pD9E76F0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Verlassend"] 02:27 < rxr> mnemoc: can it be you introduced some bug in the outside basedir detection ? 02:27 < mnemoc> why? 02:28 < mnemoc> on HEAD? what did you experienced? 02:29 < rxr> no my fault 02:32 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about dialog? 02:33 < rxr> ohem 02:33 < rxr> update it ... 02:33 < rxr> I'll complain if it does not work .. 02:33 < rxr> so - tenth rebuild of gettext on your box ... 02:34 < daja77> dumdidum 02:34 < rxr> dum dum ? 02:34 < daja77> whatever 02:34 < mnemoc> rxr: 1-zlib failed with distcc(localhost) here but now without distcc 02:34 < daja77> ;) 02:35 < rxr> mnemoc: what? 02:35 < mnemoc> i enabled distcc and the build stoped on 1-zlib 02:36 < mnemoc> rebuilt and 1-zlib failed oddly again 02:36 < mnemoc> i disabled distcc and it passed 02:36 < mnemoc> .oO( row, row, row your boat, )o 02:36 < rxr> ah - ok - I was not sure about the 2nd part without distcc 02:36 < rxr> I can review distcc implementation some time soon ... 02:36 < rxr> == 02/16/05 22:36:48 =[1]=> Finished building package gettext. 02:36 < mnemoc> :) 02:36 < rxr> # msgfmt 02:36 < rxr> msgfmt: no input file given 02:37 < mnemoc> :) 02:38 < mnemoc> beyond libtool stupidity, it makes sense to give DESTDIR to makeinstopt and not to makeopt 02:39 < CIA-9> rene * r6610 /trunk/ (package/base/gettext/gettext.conf scripts/functions): 02:39 < CIA-9> * work arounded gettext and DISTDIR problem, where libtool 02:39 < CIA-9> always relinks the binaries and libarries during install 02:39 < CIA-9> * improved set_confopt to strip leading slashes 02:40 < rxr> mnemoc: the gettext problem even existed with the previous implementation to pass DESTDIR (anf friends) to both makeopt and makeinstopt 02:40 < rxr> mnemoc: commited from your box, this is your friend: 02:40 < rxr> svn commit --username rene --no-auth-cache 02:40 < mnemoc> :) 02:41 < rxr> wow - my iBook is not that much slower that my 2.5 pseudo Ghz AthlonXP 02:41 < rxr> == 02:27:41 =[1]=> Building arm/linux24-psionw [2.4.27-vrs1-5mx2-ska-2 2.1.0-beta4] 02:41 < rxr> == 02/17/05 02:39:39 =[1]=> Finished building package linux24-psionw. 02:41 < rxr> I think twice as long as my ahtlon needs ... 02:42 < mnemoc> oh 02:42 < rxr> mnemoc: you have your box back - /me logged out 02:43 < rxr> hm - but I think thunderbird takes 3 times as long 02:43 < daja77> *rolleyes* 02:43 < daja77> !> game/game.h:23:1: unterminated #ifndef 02:44 < rxr> but hey - wait - the kernel above is cross compiling for arm which is a way better comaparision since the code generated is the same - when I compare thunderbird vs. thunderbird the compile differ quite a lot ... 02:44 < rxr> for e.g. CISC vs. RISC code generation ... 02:44 < rxr> daja77: I would long stopped packaging such crap ... 02:45 < daja77> rxr: i need some games for clts, and most games are crappy programmed 02:47 < daja77> ok fix that tomorrow, need to sleep now (hoping now nightmares occur) 02:48 < rxr> sleep well 02:49 < CIA-9> amery * r6611 /trunk/package/base/dialog/ (dialog.desc menubox-4-2.patch): * updated dialog (0.9b-20030308 -> 1.0-20050206) 02:50 < CIA-9> rene * r6612 /trunk/package/x11/ (7 files in 3 dirs): 02:50 < CIA-9> * updated xorg-cyrillic-fonts (6.8.1 -> 6.8.2) 02:50 < CIA-9> * updated xorg (6.8.1 -> 6.8.2) 02:50 < CIA-9> * updated xorg-doc (6.8.1 -> 6.8.2) 02:50 < CIA-9> * removed hardcoded files, patches and versions on the fly 02:50 < CIA-9> (only xorg build tested) 02:50 < CIA-9> amery * r6613 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/ (mine.desc new_dialog_version.patch): * updated mine (0.19 -> 0.20), including a patch to let gasgui build against new dialog 02:51 < rxr> mnemoc: sent the dialog patch to the rock list *g* 02:51 < rxr> present from the t2 project ... 02:52 < mnemoc> :) 02:52 < mnemoc> i'm not sure how will stone and Config work 02:53 < rxr> ? 02:53 < rxr> whether they work ? 02:55 < rxr> gcc.conf | 339 +++++++++++++++++---------------------------------------------- 02:55 < rxr> 1 files changed, 94 insertions(+), 245 deletions(-) 02:55 < rxr> next gcc refactoring build test started 03:00 < rxr> in some minutes the decustmain'ed gcc.conf will have finished a arm cross build on my powerpc ... 03:00 < mnemoc> but hackery on gasgui was quite simple 03:00 < mnemoc> :D 03:00 < mnemoc> i'll install a mnemosyne with dialog updated this friday 03:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 03:06 < rxr> Writing initrd image file (2799616 bytes). 03:06 < rxr> ^- my iBook just build my PDA system ;-) 03:06 < rxr> never tried before ... 03:07 < mnemoc> :D 03:07 < rxr> you name it ;-) 03:10 < rxr> ok - one more test during which I'll prepare for bed and open my current book - and then I'm off ... 03:40 * mnemoc reads and re-reads Config but can't find a way to protect it from ctrol-C destruction 03:41 < mnemoc> maybe backup on start-up and restore on any failure case 03:50 < mnemoc> yes, i'll do that. if src/$config/backup/ on start, restore everything; do backup; and restore&remove on trap INT 04:13 < CIA-9> amery * r6614 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/ (. l7-filter.desc): * added l7-filter (2005-02-06) 04:21 -!- _Ragnar__ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 04:23 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:23 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 04:35 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 05:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 05:51 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.199.197.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 05:51 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | CIA, don't ever leave us again! 05:51 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Wed Jan 12 03:04:43 2005] 05:51 [Users #t2] 05:51 [ _Ragnar__] [ daja77] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 05:51 [ CIA-9 ] [ ideal ] [ mnemoc] [ praenti] [ rxr_] 05:51 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 05:51 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 05:52 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 05:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 10 secs 05:55 -!- _Ragnar__ is now known as _Ragnar_ 06:08 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.192.54.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 06:26 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFB3E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 06:32 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFB3E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.11"] 07:03 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:03 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 08:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 08:45 < jsaw> ??? 09:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 09:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 10:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 10:30 < jsaw> what's going on here??? 10:58 < valentin> moin 11:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 11:02 < jsaw> ... 11:03 < valentin> jsaw: what are you doing there ? 11:03 < jsaw> no idea... 11:04 < jsaw> every 40min seems a bit strange ... 11:40 < rxr_> moin 11:40 -!- You're now known as rxr 11:45 < valentin> jsaw: one minute over your time 11:45 < valentin> 3 minutes even 11:46 < jsaw> the interruption was shorter... 11:46 < valentin> so there was no timeout? 11:46 < jsaw> yep 11:47 < jsaw> they're doing maintanence at our main node... 11:47 < valentin> they are quite periodic 11:49 < jsaw> they are... stupid 11:50 < valentin> well - "admins" ... 11:51 < jsaw> our institute homepage is not reachable from outside now... 11:51 < rxr> wow - what a statement: 11:51 < rxr> "Red Hat will use version 4 of GCC--the compiler software programmers use to translate their own projects into instructions the computer can understand--if it's ready in time." 11:51 < jsaw> seems like they do test the firewall on the real system... gah 11:51 < jsaw> rxr: indeed, what a statement 11:52 < rxr> I could commit this beast now: 11:52 * valentin will most propably use gcc 5.0 - once it is ready 11:52 < rxr> gcc.conf | 341 +++++++++++++++++---------------------------------------------- 11:52 < rxr> 1 files changed, 96 insertions(+), 245 deletions(-) 11:52 < rxr> "T2 will use any new open source software release, no 11:52 * jsaw will use gcc-ng-3.14159 when it is ready 11:52 < rxr> once it is released and compiles without great pain" 11:53 < rxr> *g* 11:53 < rxr> ok - one more test for my rewritten gcc.conf - while I shower - and then it goes in ... 11:54 < rxr> valentin: have you read last night? T2 is able to cross bult to ARM on PowerPC ... 11:54 < rxr> never tried that before - but read a few times cross compiling from non x86 can be difficult with gcc ... 12:03 < rxr> hm - maybe -fvisibility buys us some speed 12:03 * rxr reviewing 12:09 < rxr> hm - ok - gcc-4.0 ... 12:09 < rxr> and this one: 12:09 < rxr> The internal model used to estimate the relative cost of each instruction has been updated. It is expected to give better results on recent UltraSPARC processors. 12:09 < rxr> Code generation for function prologues and epilogues has been improved, resulting in better scheduling and allowing multiple exit points in functions. 12:09 < rxr> Support for Sun's Visual Instruction Set (VIS) has been enhanced. It is enabled by -mvis and provides new built-in functions for VIS instructions on UltraSPARC processors. 12:09 < rxr> ^- all sparc specific ... 12:12 < CIA-9> rene * r6615 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf: 12:12 < CIA-9> * rewrote the gcc.conf without custmain as well as removed all dead / 12:12 < CIA-9> obsolete code 12:12 < mnemoc> moin 12:16 < rxr> moin mnemoc 12:16 < rxr> can you look at the gcc.conf and complain about bad code ;-) ? 12:17 < mnemoc> ok :) 12:17 < mnemoc> is it backward compatible? 12:18 < rxr> should be ... 12:18 < mnemoc> let' see 12:18 < rxr> e.g. no if target relied on former hardcodings 12:18 < rxr> but the created file layout and config optiosn are the same 12:19 < mnemoc> .oO( no copyright )o 12:20 < rxr> I rewrote it ;-) 12:20 < rxr> rock copyright stripped away .. 12:20 < mnemoc> :) 12:22 < mnemoc> finally i could understand that .conf!!!! 12:24 < rxr> ;-) 12:24 < rxr> announcement sent out 12:28 < mnemoc> :D 12:28 < rxr> decustmain - not -beta3 yet 12:28 < mnemoc> *g* 12:28 * mnemoc was opening freshmeat to paste :| 12:29 < mnemoc> "considered harmfull" is more classic :) 12:30 < rxr> yeah - your are right 12:32 < mnemoc> btw, "nested makefiles considered harmfull" is a great paper 12:32 < mnemoc> .oO( or it was 'recursive' )o 12:33 < mnemoc> http://www.pcug.org.au/~millerp/rmch/recu-make-cons-harm.html 12:35 < rxr> recu-cons-hamr *g* 12:35 < mnemoc> :p 12:36 < mnemoc> gent-cons-harm 12:41 < mnemoc> you could enqueue recu-cons-hamr on your articule-TODO :) 12:50 < CIA-9> rene * r6616 /trunk/package/www/dillo/dillo.desc: * fixed stray coma from dillo.desc 12:56 < mnemoc> rxr: shouldn't we convert .zip, .Z and .srpms to .tar.bz2 too? 12:57 < rxr> srpm not 12:57 < rxr> but fot the others I would not mind to converting them .. 12:58 < mnemoc> why not srpm? 12:58 < rxr> boever .zip is not that trivial ... 12:58 < rxr> too complex tools needed to unpack ... 12:59 < mnemoc> but converting them you only need alien on the machine that populates a mirror 12:59 < rxr> yeah - and I do not really want that *g* 12:59 < mnemoc> :p 13:00 < rxr> as well as user needing it when they download origial files 13:00 < rxr> I improved the package matrix generator 13:00 < rxr> injecting some paragraph tags into the desc_T text 13:01 < mnemoc> :D 13:02 < mnemoc> we enforce people to use mirrors, if they don't it's their responsability 13:04 < rxr> well - I rather would avoid repackaging rpms on my server ... 13:04 < rxr> better leave it this way for now ... - and/or just add .Z recompression 13:05 < mnemoc> aha 13:05 < mnemoc> download/mirror/D/Deva-3.0-1.src.rpm <--- the only i found 13:06 < mnemoc> # find download/ -name '*.zip' | wc -l 13:06 < mnemoc> 29 13:08 < rxr> the ati binary only driver on my todo only seems to be distributed as RPM ... 13:08 < mnemoc> rxr: links can be better than dillo 13:08 < rxr> links better than dillo ? 13:09 < mnemoc> everything depends on what you consider better 13:10 < rxr> the links page advertises with "monolithic design" *lol* 13:10 < mnemoc> :) 13:11 < rxr> reply all and note links :-) 13:12 < mnemoc> ok :) 13:18 < mnemoc> done 13:22 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/data//2005/02/1712413810643.patch 13:22 < mnemoc> gui_message "hey, know what? i already deleted the account. just kidding ;-)" 13:23 < rxr> how serious 13:24 < mnemoc> professional i would say 13:31 < rxr> definetly 13:31 < rxr> me must merge that! 13:49 < mnemoc> rxr: is this output expected for Download -list? 13:49 < mnemoc> download/mirror/o/ogmtools-1.5.tar.bz2 13:49 < mnemoc> X openal-2004-10-20.tar.bz2 download/local/o/openal 13:49 < mnemoc> download/mirror/o/openal-2004-10-20.tar.bz2 13:49 < mnemoc> every ^X [D] shows that way 13:50 < rxr> hm - do not know off hand ... 13:50 < rxr> guess not 13:59 < CIA-9> amery * r6617 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * added checksum for fusionsound and rxvt-unicode 14:10 < CIA-9> amery * r6618 /trunk/scripts/ (Create-CkSumPatch Create-ISO Download functions): * introducted bz2filename() as a unified function to convert file names into those we use on download/ 14:15 < mnemoc> rxr: Download -list bug is due to spaces after url on [D] 14:15 < CIA-9> rene * r6619 /trunk/package/filesystem/nfs-utils/ (knfsd.init nfs-utils.conf nfsd.init): 14:15 < CIA-9> * fixed nfs-utils to build rquotad (no idea why it was disabled) 14:15 < CIA-9> * renamed nfsd.init to the installed file name knfsd.init and fixed 14:15 < CIA-9> it to only start rquotad if it was built 14:17 < rxr> please harden Download -list 14:19 < mnemoc> i'm on it 14:20 < mnemoc> it wasn't what i thought, and i don't know why my fix fixed it, but it's fixed 14:25 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.75.68.67] has joined #t2 14:25 < mnemoc> hi c4y0 14:27 < rxr> hi c4y0 14:27 < CIA-9> amery * r6620 /trunk/scripts/Download: * fixed Download -list by removing some unneeded '*'s on sed expression 14:27 < rxr> most probably the last -beta3 fix comes in in some seconds 14:30 < rxr> btw. during my test the implanted iso md5sum did not work .. 14:31 < rxr> I never tried it before and do not consider it release critical 14:31 < rxr> but if someone wants it it should be reviewed 14:31 < c4y0> hello world =) 14:33 < CIA-9> amery * r6621 /trunk/scripts/Download: * updated Download -list-unknown 14:33 < mnemoc> rxr: maybe comment it 14:33 < mnemoc> rxr: until someone get interested 14:35 < rxr> it only fails on runtime .. 14:35 < rxr> I leave it so .. 14:35 < rxr> I would have never applid this junk - and do not intend to mess in it ... 14:36 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:36 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm worried about checksums of newly converted .zip and .Z 14:41 < rxr> yes - thats a good point 14:47 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i add -w to svn diff ? 14:47 < mnemoc> rxr: is it safe? 14:50 < rxr> -w ? 14:50 < mnemoc> ignore spacing changes 14:51 < rxr> never tried 14:51 < mnemoc> re-indentation 14:51 < mnemoc> i would like to commit re-indentation but not see re-indentation on svn diff 14:55 -!- _Ragnar__ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 14:59 < CIA-9> rene * r6622 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/target/bootdisk/build_stage1.sh: 14:59 < CIA-9> * fixed bootdisk/build_stage1.sh to detect the module directory and 14:59 < CIA-9> not just use the version (might differ like e.g. in linux24benh) 14:59 < CIA-9> * cleaned status output on-the-way 15:03 < mnemoc> bootdisk has too much hardcoded stuff....... .oO( i need to finish uboot) 15:04 < mnemoc> svn diff --diff-cmd /usr/bin/diff -x -uw scripts/Download 15:04 < mnemoc> but doesn't work on ~/.subversion/config 15:04 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 15:09 -!- _Ragnar__ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:16 < CIA-9> amery * r6623 /trunk/scripts/Download: * changed Download's cksum/convertion to a `case` 15:24 < mnemoc> swig update reverted on my local copy and added to wiki 15:24 < rxr> oh - yes swig is ugly and fragile ... 15:25 < mnemoc> it broke subversion badly 15:28 < rxr> I can imagine... 15:28 < rxr> swig is as harmfull as auto* crap and libtool ... 15:28 * rxr rebooting into osx ... 15:29 < mnemoc> :( 15:34 < CIA-9> amery * r6624 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/ (pkg_iptables_post.conf pkg_linux26_post.conf): * added l7-filter .conf-s to extend iptables and linux26 15:41 < rxr> hm - software patents to be redone in the EU ? 15:42 < rxr> "In January, Microsoft announced a new anti-piracy initiative called Genuine Advantage. From this summer onwards all users of Microsoft Downloads will be required to validate using either an ActiveX control or a standalone tool. Yesterday Ivan Leo Puoti, a Wine developer, discovered that the validation tool checks directly for Wine and bails out with a generic error when found. 15:43 < rxr> http://winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/2005/02/0441.html 15:46 < rxr> wow - in the railway station in Dortmund/Germany the information system is down 15:46 < rxr> due to an defect 80x286 controlling it since 20 years ... ?!?!? 15:46 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/56509 15:47 < daja77> yesterday they said due a broken c64 15:47 < mnemoc> :) 15:48 < mnemoc> can't i buy microsoft products _and_ use them inside wine? 15:48 < rxr> mnemoc: not using the update system soon ... 15:48 < mnemoc> i guess that's ilegal 15:49 < rxr> according to the article they run Xenix on that 286 box and claim new hardware installation would cost 3 million ... 15:49 < mnemoc> oh 15:49 < mnemoc> .oO( xenix on a ia16 machine? )o 15:52 < mnemoc> when was xenix deprecated? 15:55 < mnemoc> http://williambader.com/museum/dell/xenixhistory.html .... /me refreshing knowledge 16:17 < rxr> damn is this rs6k slow ... 16:22 < rxr> wow - zeugen hehova on my door ... 16:22 < rxr> yeha - yes - god - I know - yes - sorry have to continue my products - good day .. 16:22 < CIA-9> rene * r6625 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/target/bootdisk/powerpc/ (build.sh yaboot.conf): 16:22 < CIA-9> * converted bootdisk/powerpc to dynamic boot loader creation including 16:22 < CIA-9> all kernels available (not only this historic ugly ROCK default kernel 16:22 < CIA-9> thingy) 16:23 < rxr> hm - damn 16:23 < rxr> why the hell do I know get Stale NFS handles now ... 16:26 < rxr> ok - srver faul 16:26 < rxr> +t 16:30 < mnemoc> rxr: | xargs touch -t 200001010000 <--- how does this handle timezone? 16:31 < rxr> ? 16:32 < mnemoc> rephrasing.... 16:32 < rxr> Disk 1: 662169 kB in 7150 files (boot) 16:32 < rxr> Disk 2: 595050 kB in 507 files 16:32 < mnemoc> does file timestamps consider zones ? 16:33 < mnemoc> if i tar a 200001010000 file, will you see it as 200001010000 ? 16:34 < rxr> I have never tried it ... 16:35 < mnemoc> nope 16:35 < mnemoc> i changed my TZ to asia/baku and it changede 16:39 < c4y0> de donde eres pilies 16:39 < c4y0> sorry 16:39 < rxr> hm - there is most probably some switch for this 16:39 < rxr> clikc 16:39 < rxr> yes - damn osx I knwo that my satup volume is almost full ... 16:40 < mnemoc> # stat -c %y README 16:40 < mnemoc> 2004-12-31 19:02:18.000000000 -0300 16:42 < rxr> mnemoc: I would like to tag the next as -rc1 ... 16:42 < rxr> considered feature complete ... 16:42 < rxr> so if you have s.th. to queue ... 16:42 < mnemoc> i have lot of cleanup to do on Config 16:43 < mnemoc> and i need to finish uboot :( 16:43 < mnemoc> i vote for -beta5 as last beta 16:44 < rxr> eahm - we want a final soon ... 16:44 < rxr> uboot can still be developed ... 16:44 < rxr> as long as it is not a core domponent ... 16:44 < rxr> lol look at this pathes ... 16:44 < rxr> rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-14/rsync/receiver.c(255) 16:44 < rxr> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (128 bytes read so far) 16:44 < rxr> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-14/rsync/io.c(342) 16:45 < mnemoc> ok, uboot postponed, but there are lot of stuff on TODO 16:46 < rxr> yes 16:46 < rxr> but this gets an never ending storry as rock-2.0 16:46 < rxr> reviewed and tested stuff can always get in 16:46 < rxr> we will ever have s.th. to do ... 16:47 < mnemoc> let's review the TODO during beta5 and split it 16:47 < mnemoc> a road map :) 16:50 < rxr> beta5 ... ? 16:50 < rxr> let's better call it -rc1 or I prediect we will not have the final until our target date 16:51 < mnemoc> ok 16:51 < mnemoc> you win 16:52 < rxr> *lol* 16:52 < mnemoc> but we can't warranty beta4-rc1 full-compatibility 16:56 < mnemoc> aaarg.. touch ignores $TZ too 16:56 * mnemoc going to lunch 16:56 < mnemoc> bbl 16:57 < rxr> I consider pulling kde3.4 in ... 16:57 * rxr off to uni 16:57 < rxr> cu 16:58 < rxr> oh - cool 16:58 < rxr> my speakers work under osx 16:58 < rxr> so seems only some temporary problem ... 17:00 < mnemoc> TZ=UTC0 touch -t 200001010000 README <---- this works! 17:00 < mnemoc> :D 17:00 < mnemoc> cu 17:55 < rxr> for the svn/cvs checkout tarball ? 17:56 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:58 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 17:58 < rxr> ci 17:58 < rxr> cu 18:17 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.20] has joined #t2 18:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 18:24 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.7] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:36 < mnemoc_> re 18:37 < mnemoc_> rxr: i'm playing with .zip -> .tar.bz2 conversion, but i guess svn/cvs may get fixed in the same way 18:38 -!- _Ragnar_ [loki@66-146-166-62.skyriver.net] has joined #t2 18:38 < _Ragnar_> hi 18:38 < mnemoc_> hi _Ragnar_ 18:38 < _Ragnar_> hi mnemoc_ :) how's it going? 18:39 < mnemoc_> fine, and you? 18:40 < _Ragnar_> fine fine 18:41 < mnemoc_> good :) 18:41 < _Ragnar_> :) 19:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 19:59 < mnemoc_> rxr: here? 20:03 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: can you try a patch for me? 20:05 < mnemoc_> i'm alone 20:17 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc_: sure 20:17 < _Ragnar_> sorry I'm fighting with samba 20:18 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2.patch 20:18 < mnemoc_> can you apply and tell me what ./scripts/Download zip tells you? 20:18 < mnemoc_> and revert after that :p 20:20 < _Ragnar_> patching file scripts/Download 20:20 < _Ragnar_> Hunk #1 FAILED at 444. 20:20 < _Ragnar_> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file scripts/Download.rej 20:20 < _Ragnar_> patching file scripts/functions 20:20 < _Ragnar_> Hunk #1 FAILED at 40. 20:20 < _Ragnar_> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file scripts/functions.rej 20:20 < mnemoc_> svn before :| 20:20 < mnemoc_> svn up* 20:22 < _Ragnar_> Already downloaded zip:download/mirror/z/zip23.zip ... 20:22 < _Ragnar_> cksum-test: download/mirror/z/zip23.zip 20:22 < _Ragnar_> WARNING: available checksum was calculated for .zip 20:22 < _Ragnar_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 (1590907627) 20:23 < _Ragnar_> should I remove the file? 20:23 < mnemoc_> the file is not create :) 20:23 < mnemoc_> created* 20:24 < mnemoc_> mine gives 3471100658 ..... 20:24 < mnemoc_> .oO( what can i be missing )o 20:25 < _Ragnar_> hmm 20:25 < _Ragnar_> timestamp? 20:25 < mnemoc_> i'm addapting it 20:26 < _Ragnar_> each one? 20:26 < mnemoc_> directories only 20:26 < mnemoc_> can you change it to stamp every damn file and try again? 20:27 < mnemoc_> you are busy ... please revert the patch and i'll bother you a bit later 20:28 < _Ragnar_> Already downloaded zip:download/mirror/z/zip23.zip ... 20:28 < _Ragnar_> cksum-test: download/mirror/z/zip23.zip 20:28 < _Ragnar_> WARNING: available checksum was calculated for .zip 20:28 < _Ragnar_> timestamp: 1999-11-28 20:28 < _Ragnar_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 (4039341300) 20:29 < mnemoc_> can you add a sort | before head -n 1 on the line that detects timestamp? 20:29 < _Ragnar_> ah I see, yea 20:30 < mnemoc_> 33721824 20:30 < mnemoc_> + sort and - -type d 20:30 < _Ragnar_> timestamp: 1999-11-07 20:30 < _Ragnar_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 (1442412324) 20:30 < mnemoc_> damn 20:32 < mnemoc_> timestamp: 1999-11-07 20:32 < mnemoc_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 33721824 20:34 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: can you comment if [ $legacycksum -eq 0 ]; then to let it create the .tar.bz2 file and send it to me? 20:34 < mnemoc_> if cksum_chk too 20:34 < _Ragnar_> try -vv to the tar 20:35 < mnemoc_> -rw-r--r-- root/root 4341 1999-11-07 00:00 zip23/revision.h ! 20:35 < mnemoc_> timezone 20:35 < mnemoc_> i'm removing minutes from timestamp 20:36 < mnemoc_> then my 00:00 is different than yours 20:36 < _Ragnar_> uhm 20:36 < _Ragnar_> that could be it 20:37 < mnemoc_> i'm try to catch HH:MM 20:37 < _Ragnar_> or the sequence of file (the filesystem might rearrange it) 20:37 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:37 < mnemoc_> oh 20:37 < mnemoc_> i didn't think about that 20:37 < mnemoc_> i'll have to generate a sorted file list to give to tar :| 20:37 * _Ragnar_ nods 20:38 < mnemoc_> ok, svn revert scripts/{functions,Download} and keep dancing samba :) 20:38 < _Ragnar_> do you have any idea why samba + 2.6 garbles dir listings? 20:40 < mnemoc_> o_O 20:40 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 20:46 < _Ragnar_> btw having ldap in samba by default (when ldap is installed) is foobar imho ... since then it doesn't seem to read smbpasswd any more _at all_ 20:50 < mnemoc_> uhm? i use tdb and my samba has ldap support 20:52 < _Ragnar_> so you don't use smbpasswd 20:53 < _Ragnar_> and it seems the ldap auth option silently removes smbpasswd 20:54 < mnemoc_> i thought smbpasswd used the selected backend :p 20:54 < mnemoc_> but true, i use tdbedit and not smbpasswd 20:54 < _Ragnar_> not smbpasswd the command, but /etc/opt/samba/smbpasswd the file 20:55 < mnemoc_> isn't that deprecated? 20:55 < _Ragnar_> the latter isn't consulted at all any more when ldap is turned on 20:55 < mnemoc_> you can var_remove it from your target 20:55 < _Ragnar_> yea did so 20:56 < mnemoc_> quite weird anyway 20:56 < _Ragnar_> but I think that'll hit any updater that switches to t2 20:56 < _Ragnar_> (and is not using tdb) 20:57 < mnemoc_> do you propose to add an option for it? 20:57 < mnemoc_> that option would add a complete new Config menu :| 20:58 < _Ragnar_> a warning might be better if smbpasswd is deprecated anyway 20:58 < mnemoc_> a warning where? 20:58 < _Ragnar_> sbin/init.d/samba? 20:59 < mnemoc_> i don't even use that script :p 20:59 < _Ragnar_> like if [ -f /etc/opt/samba/private/smbpasswd ]; echo "please convert to tdb" ... ;) 20:59 < mnemoc_> yes, sounds ok 20:59 < _Ragnar_> what do you use? 20:59 < mnemoc_> if [ -f D_sysconfdir/private/smbpasswd ]; .... 20:59 < mnemoc_> runit 21:00 < mnemoc_> package/base/runit/packages/samba-*.txt 21:02 < _Ragnar_> interesting 21:05 < mnemoc_> errr.... --files-from= makes tar ignore -C 21:14 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2.patch :D 21:15 < _Ragnar_> v2?:) 21:16 < mnemoc_> oops, forgot to version it 21:16 < _Ragnar_> bzip'ing zip file + cksum-test: download/mirror/z/zip23.zip 21:16 < _Ragnar_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 3420878482 21:16 < mnemoc_> *g* 21:16 < mnemoc_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 3420878482 21:16 < mnemoc_> :D 21:16 < mnemoc_> :DDDD 21:16 * _Ragnar_ pets mnemoc_ ;) 21:16 < _Ragnar_> kewl 21:16 < mnemoc_> thanks a lot 21:18 < mnemoc_> rxr: we have stable checksum for .tar.bz2 files generated from .zip-s :D 21:20 < rxr> re 21:20 < mnemoc_> rxr: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2.patch 21:22 < mnemoc_> wb rene :) 21:22 < rxr> yeah hi 21:24 * mnemoc_ worried by the silence of Mr. Core Architect 21:25 * mnemoc_ hits him self...... he built a full mnemosyne-desktop for him laptop but he did it opt=generic! 21:25 < mnemoc_> # ./scripts/Cleanup -full build/inspiron-2.1 21:25 < mnemoc_> removing build/inspiron-2.1.0-beta4-x86-mnemosyne-expert .. 21:27 < _Ragnar_> ;) 21:30 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2-v3.patch <--- this includes the checksums i got for every .zip file, can you apply and ./scripts/Download -all to see if there are conflicts? 21:31 < rxr> mnemoc_: I rebooted from osx into linux - thus the silence ... 21:31 < mnemoc_> detached-silence :) 21:31 < _Ragnar_> ;) 21:32 < rxr> mnemoc_: btw. I remeber the biggest problem with the checksum stuff for self tared files was different tar versions ... 21:32 < rxr> the archive will differ ... 21:32 < mnemoc_> do you have different versions of tar to test? 21:33 < mnemoc_> but i think users must use mirrors, which shall be updated, and developers have new tar :) 21:34 < _Ragnar_> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/s/simhv33-1.zip.cksum-err (1029606063) 21:34 < mnemoc_> damn 21:34 < _Ragnar_> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/D/Domestic_Manners.zip.cksum-err (617424913) 21:34 < _Ragnar_> and a few more .... 21:34 < mnemoc_> damn damn damn 21:35 < rxr> mnemoc_: _Ragnar_ tar versions in use? 21:35 < mnemoc_> tar (GNU tar) 1.13 21:35 < _Ragnar_> tar --version 21:35 < _Ragnar_> tar (GNU tar) 1.13 21:36 < mnemoc_> uhm 21:38 < rxr> hm 21:39 < rxr> _Ragnar_: send mnemoc the tar archive .. 21:39 < rxr> mnemoc_: you can diff the decompressed .tar ;-) 21:39 < mnemoc_> # ./scripts/Download -mk-cksum download/mirror/s/simhv33-1.zip 21:39 < mnemoc_> download/mirror/s/simhv33-1.zip: 1689829310 21:39 < rxr> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg system 21:39 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.1.0-beta4-x86-athlon-desktop: 21:39 < rxr> [5] base/slang 21:39 < rxr> 1064 builds total, 248 completed fine, 1 with errors. 21:39 < rxr> 21:40 < mnemoc_> rxr: i'll have to, _Ragnar_ can you mail me one or the err-ed tarballs? 21:40 < mnemoc_> slang???? why? 21:40 < rxr> I guess PARALLEL 21:41 < rxr> ar: ...o: No such file or directory 21:41 < mnemoc_> o_O 21:41 < _Ragnar_> http://66.146.166.62/~ragnar/Winks.zip.cksum-err 21:41 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: can you give me the cksum of the original .zip? 21:42 < _Ragnar_> how? 21:42 < mnemoc_> ./scripts/Download -mk-cksum download/mirror/W/Winks.zip 21:43 < rxr> wow - got the first mail from the dietlibc list today ... 21:43 -!- jsaw|HOME [~jsaw@p3EE0A4CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 21:43 -!- jsaw|HOME [~jsaw@p3EE0A4CF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:43 < _Ragnar_> uhm ... that got deleted 21:43 < mnemoc_> .cksum-err is the file 21:44 < _Ragnar_> oh 21:44 < mnemoc_> the function that validates it does the rename 21:44 < _Ragnar_> 3094955100 21:44 < mnemoc_> download/mirror/W/Winks.zip: 3094955100 21:44 < mnemoc_> same here 21:44 < CIA-9> rene * r6626 /trunk/package/ (base/lynx/ www/lynx/): * moved base/lynx -> www 21:45 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: for x in download/mirror/*/*.zip.cksum-err; do mv -v $x ${x%.cksum-err}; done 21:46 < _Ragnar_> k 21:48 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: you sent me the .zip :D 21:48 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: i need the tar :p 21:49 < _Ragnar_> ?!? 21:49 < CIA-9> rene * r6627 /trunk/package/base/slang/slang.desc: * marked slang NOPARALLEL - just failed here two times in a row 21:49 < mnemoc_> you may need to comment the lines that avoid it's creation 21:52 < _Ragnar_> and where does it create the tmp-file? 21:53 < mnemoc_> src/down.... 21:54 < _Ragnar_> see http://66.146.166.62/~ragnar/down.download-mirror-W-Winks.tar.bz2 21:57 < mnemoc_> thanks 21:58 < rxr> 1064 builds total, 263 completed fine, 0 with errors. 21:58 < rxr> stage 5 of course 21:59 < _Ragnar_> bbl, lunch 21:59 < mnemoc_> i got broke alsa-tool and xscreensaver 22:00 < mnemoc_> nothing else on my mnemosyne-desktop /generic/ i just removed 22:00 -!- jeru [~jeru@p54BFD4E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 22:00 < jeru> moin 22:00 < rxr> hi jeru 22:01 < jeru> hi rxr 22:01 < jeru> everything fine? 22:01 < rxr> oh sure 22:03 < jeru> :) 22:12 * rxr starting to erase ROCK isos from my server ... 22:12 < rxr> needing space for t2 ones ... 22:12 < rxr> 11GB removed ... 22:13 < jeru> rxr: so you're building a new release? 22:15 < rxr> I already built them ... 22:15 < rxr> for the last weeks :-( 22:15 < rxr> to be released this night or in the morning .. 22:15 < rxr> -beta ... 22:15 < rxr> -beta3 ... 22:15 < rxr> mnemoc_: /me updating links 22:15 < rxr> ok ? 22:16 < jeru> :) allright 22:16 < mnemoc_> ok 22:17 < jeru> hi mnemoc ... thought you were at lunch ;) 22:17 < mnemoc_> uhm...... 4 hours ago 22:17 < jeru> ahhh :) 22:18 < jeru> was on the road whole day ... but have a new project in my pocket :) 22:20 < mnemoc_> :) 22:20 < mnemoc_> where were you traveling to? 22:21 < jeru> ahh just cross the whole city of berlin, from one corner to the other 22:21 < mnemoc_> 4 hours?? 22:22 < mnemoc_> damn 22:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:22 < jeru> hmmm ... allmost 22:22 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 22:23 < mnemoc_> # md5sum Ragnar-Winks.tar Mnemoc-Winks.tar 22:23 < mnemoc_> 9bc21592f29927679647a2abcce20a2d Ragnar-Winks.tar 22:23 < mnemoc_> 032bc9b7b34f3bbfcafd99041757b776 Mnemoc-Winks.tar 22:23 < mnemoc_> let's compare those bastards 22:25 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: timezone again :| 22:25 < mnemoc_> tar -vvtf Ragnar-Winks.tar 22:25 < mnemoc_> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2002-08-19 15:20 Winks/ 22:25 < mnemoc_> -rw-rw-rw- root/root 19092 2002-08-19 15:20 Winks/license.txt 22:25 < mnemoc_> tar -vvtf Mnemoc-Winks.tar 22:25 < mnemoc_> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2002-08-19 12:20 Winks/ 22:25 < mnemoc_> -rw-rw-rw- root/root 19092 2002-08-19 12:20 Winks/license.txt 22:25 < mnemoc_> -rw-rw-rw- root/root 19568 2002-08-19 09:27 Winks/Winks.ttf 22:34 < CIA-9> jeru * r6628 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Network/bridge.ask: * added vlan packacke to bridge option 22:34 < jeru> package ofcourse ;) 22:34 < jeru> I'm really off ;) 22:34 < mnemoc_> jeru: i'm not sure if vlan goes there :) 22:35 < jeru> do you want it separate? 22:35 < mnemoc_> nah 22:35 < mnemoc_> :) 22:35 < mnemoc_> maybe later 22:38 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: still here? http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2-v4.patch .... this is dry-run again 22:38 < rxr> wow - links is not bad 22:39 < rxr> if I can get that onto the psion revo - wow ! 22:39 < mnemoc_> i told you! 22:39 < mnemoc_> links is cool 22:39 < rxr> do you use it for some desktop ? 22:40 < mnemoc_> X-less machines 22:41 < CIA-9> rene * r6629 /trunk/package/www/links/ (links.conf links.desc): 22:41 < CIA-9> * updated links (2.1pre15 -> 2.1pre16) 22:41 < CIA-9> * fixed the svgalib,... xfree86 conditional to use xorg, but commented 22:41 < CIA-9> it out, since we can always run on a plain framebuffer 22:45 < jeru> rxr: I know links quite some time and I like it too ... btw: it's the 'standard' text browser of the 'geeks and pimps' from gentoo ;) 22:45 < rxr> cool - when I have luck I get my new color laser printer tomorrow ... 22:46 < rxr> the one for the cebit prints ;-) 22:46 < jeru> ahh :) 22:46 < rxr> hm 22:46 < rxr> the links binary is quite fat 2MB and linked against libstdc++ ... :-( 22:47 < rxr> of course the arm one would at least be smaller due to avoide X11, SDL and openssl dependencies ... 22:47 < rxr> but it might still be too fat ... 22:48 < rxr> cool - but links itself does not call g++ - so with minimal deps it hopefuly does not have libstdc+ 22:48 < rxr> + deps ... 22:50 < rxr> ah - libSDL is -> libstdc++ ... 22:53 < mnemoc_> re 22:55 < mnemoc_> can anyone help me with some tests for http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2-v4.patch ? 22:55 < mnemoc_> rxr: you forgot checksum for links 22:56 < mnemoc_> rxr: and btw, links _needs_ directfb to get framebuffer support 22:56 < rxr> ohem - sure? built here ... 22:57 < mnemoc_> maybe new feature 22:57 < rxr> I have no directfb on my iBook ... 22:57 < mnemoc_> xorg? svgalib? 22:57 < mnemoc_> what logs say? 22:57 < rxr> checking for directfb-config... no 22:58 < mnemoc_> xorg? svgalib? another graphic thing? 22:58 < rxr> I tried it on the framebuffer works there ... 22:58 < mnemoc_> lib{png,jpeg,...} 22:58 < mnemoc_> nice to know :) 22:59 < rxr> --without-fb compile without Linux Framebuffer graphics driver 22:59 < rxr> --without-directfb compile without DirectFB graphics driver 22:59 < mnemoc_> :D 22:59 < mnemoc_> linux framebuffer support! 23:00 < rxr> maybe it depends on SDL ... 23:00 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2-v4.patch ?? ... i only need some test outputs, and that patch is dry-run 23:01 < rxr> Graphics drivers: FB X SDL 23:02 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:02 < mnemoc_> forth condition :( 23:03 < rxr> ah - SDL seems to be new in pre16 23:03 < rxr> no indication of SDL in pre15 23:06 < rxr> yep - new in pre16 23:08 < mnemoc_> anyone use lvm2 here? 23:09 < jeru> mnemoc: atm no lvm2 user 23:10 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 23:11 < rxr> even with all but fb disabled links is still fat ... 23:11 < rxr> 2971540 Feb 17 23:10 /usr/bin/links 23:16 < mnemoc_> how much does dillo weights? 23:17 < _Ragnar_> re 23:20 < mnemoc_> re _Ragnar_ 23:27 < _Ragnar_> ./scripts/Download: line 495: syntax error near unexpected token `fi' 23:27 < _Ragnar_> ./scripts/Download: line 495: ` fi' 23:27 < mnemoc_> uhm? 23:28 < mnemoc_> oh 23:28 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: remove the else please 23:29 < mnemoc_> can you try zip and cheapskatefonts and paste the checksums you get please? 23:33 < mnemoc_> v4.1.patch includes 'else' fix :p 23:34 < _Ragnar_> zip seems to work 23:34 < rxr> but only when the same recent tar version is used 23:35 < rxr> I know older ones generate slithgly different headers ... 23:35 < _Ragnar_> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/W/Winks.tar.bz2.cksum-err (2453882166) 23:35 < rxr> 2688776 Feb 17 23:35 /usr/bin/links 23:35 < rxr> without most features ... 23:35 < rxr> but ah - yes it embedds fonts I read 23:35 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: i din't give you checksums.... i haven't regenerated them 23:35 < rxr> need to investigate that later 23:36 < mnemoc_> did you reverted? 23:36 < _Ragnar_> nun? 23:36 < _Ragnar_> huh? 23:37 < mnemoc_> rxr: so, you think we can't enforce users to use mirrors and we shall keep keeping using .zip, .Z, etc...? 23:37 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: svn revert package/*/cheapskatefonts/* 23:37 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: v4 only includes some TZ= handling 23:38 < _Ragnar_> uh huh 23:38 < mnemoc_> i got the same for Winks you got! :) 23:39 < _Ragnar_> ;p 23:40 -!- c4y0 [~c4y0@200.75.68.67] has quit ["BitchX-1.0c20cvs -- just do it."] 23:40 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.0-beta3/desktop/ 23:40 < rxr> ^- pps untestted 23:40 < rxr> ppc even 23:40 < rxr> x86 works 23:40 < jeru> mnemoc: download/mirror/W/Winks.tar.bz2 1759368460 23:41 < mnemoc_> tar --version 23:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:42 -!- jsaw [~jsaw@volans.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de] has joined #t2 23:42 < mnemoc_> jeru: tar --version ? 23:43 < jeru> mnemoc: 1.14 23:43 < mnemoc_> oh 23:43 < jeru> oh what ? 23:43 < rxr> n8 23:44 < jeru> rxr: good night 23:45 < mnemoc_> rxr: you didn't answered :( 23:50 < jeru> mnemoc: after upgrading tar to HEAD version I get: download/mirror/W/Winks.tar.bz2 1914806242 --- Log closed Fri Feb 18 00:00:29 2005