--- Log opened Thu Feb 17 00:00:28 2005
00:07 < rxr> mnemoc: this is really strange
00:07 < rxr> in the build it is correctly linked:
00:07 < rxr> debug-gettext:[src]# ldd .libs/msgfmt
00:07 < rxr> /usr/src/t2-test/build/default-2.1.0-beta4-x86-pentium4-mnemosyne-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so => /usr/src/t2-test/build/default-2.1.0-beta4-x86-pentium4-mnemosyne-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so (0x40014000)
00:07 < rxr> libgettextsrc-0.14.1.so => not found
00:07 < rxr> libgettextlib-0.14.1.so => not found
00:07 < rxr> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001d000)
00:07 < rxr> libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40140000)
00:07 < rxr> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
00:08 < mnemoc> who is linked to 0.12 then?
00:08 < rxr> [23:08] [root@ferrari(tty)bin]# md5sum msgfmt
00:08 < rxr> 8efe12752d93095715a431bddbb681e4 msgfmt
00:08 < rxr> debug-gettext:[src]# md5sum .libs/msgfmt
00:08 < rxr> 8efe12752d93095715a431bddbb681e4 .libs/msgfmt
00:08 < rxr> strange
00:10 < rxr> # strings msgfmt | grep gettext
00:10 < rxr> libgettextsrc-0.14.1.so
00:10 < rxr> libgettextlib-0.14.1.so
00:10 < rxr> hm - momment
00:10 < mnemoc> grep libgettextlib -R build/default-*/
00:11 < rxr> currently the file is really valid ..
00:11 < rxr> let me rebuld it
00:15 * mnemoc moving home
00:15 < rxr> cu mnemoc
00:15 < mnemoc> good luck :)
00:22 < rxr> libtool: install: warning: remember to run `libtool --finish /usr/lib'
00:22 < rxr> ???
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00:46 < mnemoc> re
00:46 < mnemoc> uhm?
00:48 < rxr> ?
00:48 < mnemoc> libtool thing
00:50 < mnemoc> 1429 builds total, 1358 completed fine, 71 with errors.
00:50 < rxr> http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2002-06/msg00196.html
00:50 < rxr> yes it is
00:54 < mnemoc> brb
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01:05 < rxr> mnemoc: can you hack gettext not to relink ?
01:06 < rxr> I would like to join my bed - and the latency is quite a bit preventing me from typing fast
01:07 < rxr> maybe just hack around in gettext-tools/libtool - just defining relink_command="" after the relink command was puzzled together did not do the trick .-(
01:09 < mnemoc> re
01:10 < mnemoc> i have never hacked libtool.... i'll try
01:15 < _Ragnar_> good lucl
01:15 < _Ragnar_> luck*
01:16 < rxr> ok - /me still at it
01:18 < mnemoc> i decompress it on $base
01:18 < rxr> ok - my relink_command="" might work
01:18 < rxr> I just need to appyl it
01:18 < rxr> to the libraries, too
01:18 * mnemoc greping
01:19 < mnemoc> on config/ltmain.sh??
01:20 < rxr> I used src/libtool
01:21 < mnemoc> i don't see that file
01:22 < rxr> sorry
01:22 < rxr> gettext-0.14.1/gettext-tools/libtool
01:23 < daja77> .oO ( I hate it )
01:23 < mnemoc> daja77: libtool or gettext?
01:23 < daja77> erh both but not referring to these atm
01:24 < mnemoc> what are you hating atm?
01:24 < daja77> glib and gnome c++ dependencies
01:25 < rxr> ?
01:26 < daja77> i want to package a game, that needs libxml++, which needs sigc++ and glibmm, and other crap
01:26 < rxr> but all those ar e
01:26 < rxr> not gnome core ...
01:27 < mnemoc> nfsutils depending on openldap is cool :)
01:27 < daja77> gnome core consists of 1000 packages ...
01:28 < daja77> mnemoc: huh?
01:28 < mnemoc> nfsv4 support needs libnfsidmap and libnfsidmap needs openldap
01:29 < daja77> ok don't tell me more now ;)
01:29 < mnemoc> :)
01:29 < rxr> Space.com is reporting that '[a] pair of NASA scientists told a group of space officials at a private meeting here Sunday that they have found strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars, hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water.'
01:29 < daja77> caveman on mars
01:29 < mnemoc> i prefer 10000 packages where i can install just what i want than 10 packages which are a bunch of crap were i only want to install 10%
01:30 < mnemoc> oh
01:30 < daja77> haha, of course you'd need all of the 10000 packages
01:30 < daja77> perhaps minus 3 ^^
01:30 < mnemoc> :)
01:32 < mnemoc> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/update.list <--- too many updates to fix :'(
01:33 < daja77> >_<
01:33 < daja77> == 02/17/05 01:32:55 =[9]=> Aborted building package libxml++.
01:33 < mnemoc> new dep?
01:33 < daja77> !> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `insert_example_code ..
01:33 < daja77> what a crap
01:33 < mnemoc> T2 or rock?
01:34 < mnemoc> if T2 maybe a NOPARALLEL fix it
01:34 < daja77> rock
01:34 < mnemoc> :(
01:34 < daja77> it is not build parallel in any way
01:36 < mnemoc> some Makefile silently create files where there are no rules for them so parallel build fails, but afaik rock doesn't build parallel
01:37 < rxr> yep - ROCK has no parallel
01:39 < daja77> no it it seems that this file is just lacking - a perl skript, in the examples directory
01:39 < daja77> I wonder if that ever built for anyone
01:39 < mnemoc> :(
01:40 < rxr> mnemoc: do you do s.th. to the net of that box
01:40 < rxr> currently latency goes up to > 2s ...
01:40 < mnemoc> nothing
01:41 < daja77> rofl
01:41 < daja77> first match on the ml
01:41 < daja77> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6577456&forum_id=12784
01:41 < daja77> but of course not flagging this release as broken
01:41 < mnemoc> but international bandwidth is very expensive for dedicated links here
01:42 < daja77> trying to downgrade
01:42 < mnemoc> daja77: grab it from cvs :)
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01:42 < mnemoc> most companies here have 10Mb/128kb national/int'l
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01:43 < mnemoc> wb jsaw
01:43 < daja77> and diffing, i don't care which version it is exactly, it just have to work
01:44 < mnemoc> some times i just [D] from webcvs and inject it :)
01:44 < daja77> i want to go to bed ...
01:44 < daja77> it is the last dep before that damn game will build ^^
01:45 < mnemoc> :D
01:45 < rxr> and you know what? When it built it will not run properly ... ;-)
01:46 < daja77> don't think so, the game release is older than the lib's crap release ^^
01:46 < mnemoc> rxr: none of my .err are related to dialog, and gasgui is fixed. can i commit (0.9b-20030308 -> 1.0-20050206)?
01:46 < mnemoc> daja77: hehe
01:47 < mnemoc> brb
01:47 < daja77> argh
01:48 < daja77> it doesn't build anyway
01:48 < daja77> i go now
01:48 < rxr> what the h*ll is this in our gettext.desc:
01:48 < rxr> [E] opt gettext
01:48 < rxr> hm
01:48 < rxr> 3789 rene [E] opt gettext
01:49 < rxr> strange the log does not really match the change .....
01:51 < daja77> ah i know why
01:51 < rxr> ?
01:51 * daja77 wants to kick libxml++
01:52 < daja77> the headers are expected to be in /usr/include/libxml++
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01:52 < daja77> and they've put them under usr/include/libxml++-2.6/libxml++
01:52 < daja77> >_<
01:54 < rxr> are you sure
01:54 < rxr> this versioned header stuff is common practice among some gnome junk packages ...
01:54 < daja77> yes mine -l tells me
01:55 < daja77> interesting enough they call it libxml++2.6, while having version 2.9 meanwhile
01:56 < daja77> quick fix could be to add a postmake hook which creates a symlink
01:57 < rxr> daja77: is the rock channel that orphaned that you rather discuss your rock packaging here?
01:57 < daja77> atm yes, i can stop if you like
01:58 < rxr> no - feel free to hang around
01:58 < rxr> I just wondered ...
01:59 < daja77> ^^
01:59 < daja77> guess the packages will work for t2 as well
02:01 < rxr> daja77: http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
02:01 < rxr> mnemoc: not using DESTDIR work arounds it ..
02:01 < rxr> I hope the gettext stuff does not hardcode pathes I work around it that way ...
02:05 < mnemoc> re
02:05 < CIA-9> rene * r6609 /trunk/scripts/functions: * only inject DESTDIR (and alike) into makeopt - not makeinstopt
02:05 < rxr> mnemoc: when I commit in 4 minuets, should I wipe your auth cache, let you commit or scp home?
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02:08 < mnemoc> commit or scp what?
02:08 < rxr> the fix
02:08 < mnemoc> wipe my auth is fine, as far as you wipe it again after that
02:08 < rxr> there is --no-auth-cache or so ...
02:09 < mnemoc> :)
02:09 < mnemoc> wipe and commit :) it is your hack :p
02:10 < mnemoc> * only inject DESTDIR (and alike) into makeopt - not makeinstopt <--- this doesn't make sense to me
02:13 < rxr> erhm - of course it is the other way round
02:13 < rxr> sorry /me too tired ...
02:13 < rxr> only inject into makeinstopt ...
02:14 < mnemoc> :)
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02:22 < rxr> hi ideal
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02:27 < rxr> mnemoc: can it be you introduced some bug in the outside basedir detection ?
02:27 < mnemoc> why?
02:28 < mnemoc> on HEAD? what did you experienced?
02:29 < rxr> no my fault
02:32 < mnemoc> rxr: what do you think about dialog?
02:33 < rxr> ohem
02:33 < rxr> update it ...
02:33 < rxr> I'll complain if it does not work ..
02:33 < rxr> so - tenth rebuild of gettext on your box ...
02:34 < daja77> dumdidum
02:34 < rxr> dum dum ?
02:34 < daja77> whatever
02:34 < mnemoc> rxr: 1-zlib failed with distcc(localhost) here but now without distcc
02:34 < daja77> ;)
02:35 < rxr> mnemoc: what?
02:35 < mnemoc> i enabled distcc and the build stoped on 1-zlib
02:36 < mnemoc> rebuilt and 1-zlib failed oddly again
02:36 < mnemoc> i disabled distcc and it passed
02:36 < mnemoc> .oO( row, row, row your boat, )o
02:36 < rxr> ah - ok - I was not sure about the 2nd part without distcc
02:36 < rxr> I can review distcc implementation some time soon ...
02:36 < rxr> == 02/16/05 22:36:48 =[1]=> Finished building package gettext.
02:36 < mnemoc> :)
02:36 < rxr> # msgfmt
02:36 < rxr> msgfmt: no input file given
02:37 < mnemoc> :)
02:38 < mnemoc> beyond libtool stupidity, it makes sense to give DESTDIR to makeinstopt and not to makeopt
02:39 < CIA-9> rene * r6610 /trunk/ (package/base/gettext/gettext.conf scripts/functions):
02:39 < CIA-9> * work arounded gettext and DISTDIR problem, where libtool
02:39 < CIA-9> always relinks the binaries and libarries during install
02:39 < CIA-9> * improved set_confopt to strip leading slashes
02:40 < rxr> mnemoc: the gettext problem even existed with the previous implementation to pass DESTDIR (anf friends) to both makeopt and makeinstopt
02:40 < rxr> mnemoc: commited from your box, this is your friend:
02:40 < rxr> svn commit --username rene --no-auth-cache
02:40 < mnemoc> :)
02:41 < rxr> wow - my iBook is not that much slower that my 2.5 pseudo Ghz AthlonXP
02:41 < rxr> == 02:27:41 =[1]=> Building arm/linux24-psionw [2.4.27-vrs1-5mx2-ska-2 2.1.0-beta4]
02:41 < rxr> == 02/17/05 02:39:39 =[1]=> Finished building package linux24-psionw.
02:41 < rxr> I think twice as long as my ahtlon needs ...
02:42 < mnemoc> oh
02:42 < rxr> mnemoc: you have your box back - /me logged out
02:43 < rxr> hm - but I think thunderbird takes 3 times as long
02:43 < daja77> *rolleyes*
02:43 < daja77> !> game/game.h:23:1: unterminated #ifndef
02:44 < rxr> but hey - wait - the kernel above is cross compiling for arm which is a way better comaparision since the code generated is the same - when I compare thunderbird vs. thunderbird the compile differ quite a lot ...
02:44 < rxr> for e.g. CISC vs. RISC code generation ...
02:44 < rxr> daja77: I would long stopped packaging such crap ...
02:45 < daja77> rxr: i need some games for clts, and most games are crappy programmed
02:47 < daja77> ok fix that tomorrow, need to sleep now (hoping now nightmares occur)
02:48 < rxr> sleep well
02:49 < CIA-9> amery * r6611 /trunk/package/base/dialog/ (dialog.desc menubox-4-2.patch): * updated dialog (0.9b-20030308 -> 1.0-20050206)
02:50 < CIA-9> rene * r6612 /trunk/package/x11/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
02:50 < CIA-9> * updated xorg-cyrillic-fonts (6.8.1 -> 6.8.2)
02:50 < CIA-9> * updated xorg (6.8.1 -> 6.8.2)
02:50 < CIA-9> * updated xorg-doc (6.8.1 -> 6.8.2)
02:50 < CIA-9> * removed hardcoded files, patches and versions on the fly
02:50 < CIA-9> (only xorg build tested)
02:50 < CIA-9> amery * r6613 /trunk/package/archiver/mine/ (mine.desc new_dialog_version.patch): * updated mine (0.19 -> 0.20), including a patch to let gasgui build against new dialog
02:51 < rxr> mnemoc: sent the dialog patch to the rock list *g*
02:51 < rxr> present from the t2 project ...
02:52 < mnemoc> :)
02:52 < mnemoc> i'm not sure how will stone and Config work
02:53 < rxr> ?
02:53 < rxr> whether they work ?
02:55 < rxr> gcc.conf | 339 +++++++++++++++++----------------------------------------------
02:55 < rxr> 1 files changed, 94 insertions(+), 245 deletions(-)
02:55 < rxr> next gcc refactoring build test started
03:00 < rxr> in some minutes the decustmain'ed gcc.conf will have finished a arm cross build on my powerpc ...
03:00 < mnemoc> but hackery on gasgui was quite simple
03:00 < mnemoc> :D
03:00 < mnemoc> i'll install a mnemosyne with dialog updated this friday
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03:06 < rxr> Writing initrd image file (2799616 bytes).
03:06 < rxr> ^- my iBook just build my PDA system ;-)
03:06 < rxr> never tried before ...
03:07 < mnemoc> :D
03:07 < rxr> you name it ;-)
03:10 < rxr> ok - one more test during which I'll prepare for bed and open my current book - and then I'm off ...
03:40 * mnemoc reads and re-reads Config but can't find a way to protect it from ctrol-C destruction
03:41 < mnemoc> maybe backup on start-up and restore on any failure case
03:50 < mnemoc> yes, i'll do that. if src/$config/backup/ on start, restore everything; do backup; and restore&remove on trap INT
04:13 < CIA-9> amery * r6614 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/ (. l7-filter.desc): * added l7-filter (2005-02-06)
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08:45 < jsaw> ???
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10:30 < jsaw> what's going on here???
10:58 < valentin> moin
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11:02 < jsaw> ...
11:03 < valentin> jsaw: what are you doing there ?
11:03 < jsaw> no idea...
11:04 < jsaw> every 40min seems a bit strange ...
11:40 < rxr_> moin
11:40 -!- You're now known as rxr
11:45 < valentin> jsaw: one minute over your time
11:45 < valentin> 3 minutes even
11:46 < jsaw> the interruption was shorter...
11:46 < valentin> so there was no timeout?
11:46 < jsaw> yep
11:47 < jsaw> they're doing maintanence at our main node...
11:47 < valentin> they are quite periodic
11:49 < jsaw> they are... stupid
11:50 < valentin> well - "admins" ...
11:51 < jsaw> our institute homepage is not reachable from outside now...
11:51 < rxr> wow - what a statement:
11:51 < rxr> "Red Hat will use version 4 of GCC--the compiler software programmers use to translate their own projects into instructions the computer can understand--if it's ready in time."
11:51 < jsaw> seems like they do test the firewall on the real system... gah
11:51 < jsaw> rxr: indeed, what a statement
11:52 < rxr> I could commit this beast now:
11:52 * valentin will most propably use gcc 5.0 - once it is ready
11:52 < rxr> gcc.conf | 341 +++++++++++++++++----------------------------------------------
11:52 < rxr> 1 files changed, 96 insertions(+), 245 deletions(-)
11:52 < rxr> "T2 will use any new open source software release, no
11:52 * jsaw will use gcc-ng-3.14159 when it is ready
11:52 < rxr> once it is released and compiles without great pain"
11:53 < rxr> *g*
11:53 < rxr> ok - one more test for my rewritten gcc.conf - while I shower - and then it goes in ...
11:54 < rxr> valentin: have you read last night? T2 is able to cross bult to ARM on PowerPC ...
11:54 < rxr> never tried that before - but read a few times cross compiling from non x86 can be difficult with gcc ...
12:03 < rxr> hm - maybe -fvisibility buys us some speed
12:03 * rxr reviewing
12:09 < rxr> hm - ok - gcc-4.0 ...
12:09 < rxr> and this one:
12:09 < rxr> The internal model used to estimate the relative cost of each instruction has been updated. It is expected to give better results on recent UltraSPARC processors.
12:09 < rxr> Code generation for function prologues and epilogues has been improved, resulting in better scheduling and allowing multiple exit points in functions.
12:09 < rxr> Support for Sun's Visual Instruction Set (VIS) has been enhanced. It is enabled by -mvis and provides new built-in functions for VIS instructions on UltraSPARC processors.
12:09 < rxr> ^- all sparc specific ...
12:12 < CIA-9> rene * r6615 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf:
12:12 < CIA-9> * rewrote the gcc.conf without custmain as well as removed all dead /
12:12 < CIA-9> obsolete code
12:12 < mnemoc> moin
12:16 < rxr> moin mnemoc
12:16 < rxr> can you look at the gcc.conf and complain about bad code ;-) ?
12:17 < mnemoc> ok :)
12:17 < mnemoc> is it backward compatible?
12:18 < rxr> should be ...
12:18 < mnemoc> let' see
12:18 < rxr> e.g. no if target relied on former hardcodings
12:18 < rxr> but the created file layout and config optiosn are the same
12:19 < mnemoc> .oO( no copyright )o
12:20 < rxr> I rewrote it ;-)
12:20 < rxr> rock copyright stripped away ..
12:20 < mnemoc> :)
12:22 < mnemoc> finally i could understand that .conf!!!!
12:24 < rxr> ;-)
12:24 < rxr> announcement sent out
12:28 < mnemoc> :D
12:28 < rxr> decustmain - not -beta3 yet
12:28 < mnemoc> *g*
12:28 * mnemoc was opening freshmeat to paste :|
12:29 < mnemoc> "considered harmfull" is more classic :)
12:30 < rxr> yeah - your are right
12:32 < mnemoc> btw, "nested makefiles considered harmfull" is a great paper
12:32 < mnemoc> .oO( or it was 'recursive' )o
12:33 < mnemoc> http://www.pcug.org.au/~millerp/rmch/recu-make-cons-harm.html
12:35 < rxr> recu-cons-hamr *g*
12:35 < mnemoc> :p
12:36 < mnemoc> gent-cons-harm
12:41 < mnemoc> you could enqueue recu-cons-hamr on your articule-TODO :)
12:50 < CIA-9> rene * r6616 /trunk/package/www/dillo/dillo.desc: * fixed stray coma from dillo.desc
12:56 < mnemoc> rxr: shouldn't we convert .zip, .Z and .srpms to .tar.bz2 too?
12:57 < rxr> srpm not
12:57 < rxr> but fot the others I would not mind to converting them ..
12:58 < mnemoc> why not srpm?
12:58 < rxr> boever .zip is not that trivial ...
12:58 < rxr> too complex tools needed to unpack ...
12:59 < mnemoc> but converting them you only need alien on the machine that populates a mirror
12:59 < rxr> yeah - and I do not really want that *g*
12:59 < mnemoc> :p
13:00 < rxr> as well as user needing it when they download origial files
13:00 < rxr> I improved the package matrix generator
13:00 < rxr> injecting some paragraph tags into the desc_T text
13:01 < mnemoc> :D
13:02 < mnemoc> we enforce people to use mirrors, if they don't it's their responsability
13:04 < rxr> well - I rather would avoid repackaging rpms on my server ...
13:04 < rxr> better leave it this way for now ... - and/or just add .Z recompression
13:05 < mnemoc> aha
13:05 < mnemoc> download/mirror/D/Deva-3.0-1.src.rpm <--- the only i found
13:06 < mnemoc> # find download/ -name '*.zip' | wc -l
13:06 < mnemoc> 29
13:08 < rxr> the ati binary only driver on my todo only seems to be distributed as RPM ...
13:08 < mnemoc> rxr: links can be better than dillo
13:08 < rxr> links better than dillo ?
13:09 < mnemoc> everything depends on what you consider better
13:10 < rxr> the links page advertises with "monolithic design" *lol*
13:10 < mnemoc> :)
13:11 < rxr> reply all and note links :-)
13:12 < mnemoc> ok :)
13:18 < mnemoc> done
13:22 < mnemoc> https://www.rocklinux.net/submaster/data//2005/02/1712413810643.patch
13:22 < mnemoc> gui_message "hey, know what? i already deleted the account. just kidding ;-)"
13:23 < rxr> how serious
13:24 < mnemoc> professional i would say
13:31 < rxr> definetly
13:31 < rxr> me must merge that!
13:49 < mnemoc> rxr: is this output expected for Download -list?
13:49 < mnemoc> download/mirror/o/ogmtools-1.5.tar.bz2
13:49 < mnemoc> X openal-2004-10-20.tar.bz2 download/local/o/openal
13:49 < mnemoc> download/mirror/o/openal-2004-10-20.tar.bz2
13:49 < mnemoc> every ^X [D] shows that way
13:50 < rxr> hm - do not know off hand ...
13:50 < rxr> guess not
13:59 < CIA-9> amery * r6617 /trunk/package/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * added checksum for fusionsound and rxvt-unicode
14:10 < CIA-9> amery * r6618 /trunk/scripts/ (Create-CkSumPatch Create-ISO Download functions): * introducted bz2filename() as a unified function to convert file names into those we use on download/
14:15 < mnemoc> rxr: Download -list bug is due to spaces after url on [D]
14:15 < CIA-9> rene * r6619 /trunk/package/filesystem/nfs-utils/ (knfsd.init nfs-utils.conf nfsd.init):
14:15 < CIA-9> * fixed nfs-utils to build rquotad (no idea why it was disabled)
14:15 < CIA-9> * renamed nfsd.init to the installed file name knfsd.init and fixed
14:15 < CIA-9> it to only start rquotad if it was built
14:17 < rxr> please harden Download -list
14:19 < mnemoc> i'm on it
14:20 < mnemoc> it wasn't what i thought, and i don't know why my fix fixed it, but it's fixed
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14:25 < mnemoc> hi c4y0
14:27 < rxr> hi c4y0
14:27 < CIA-9> amery * r6620 /trunk/scripts/Download: * fixed Download -list by removing some unneeded '*'s on sed expression
14:27 < rxr> most probably the last -beta3 fix comes in in some seconds
14:30 < rxr> btw. during my test the implanted iso md5sum did not work ..
14:31 < rxr> I never tried it before and do not consider it release critical
14:31 < rxr> but if someone wants it it should be reviewed
14:31 < c4y0> hello world =)
14:33 < CIA-9> amery * r6621 /trunk/scripts/Download: * updated Download -list-unknown
14:33 < mnemoc> rxr: maybe comment it
14:33 < mnemoc> rxr: until someone get interested
14:35 < rxr> it only fails on runtime ..
14:35 < rxr> I leave it so ..
14:35 < rxr> I would have never applid this junk - and do not intend to mess in it ...
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14:36 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm worried about checksums of newly converted .zip and .Z
14:41 < rxr> yes - thats a good point
14:47 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i add -w to svn diff ?
14:47 < mnemoc> rxr: is it safe?
14:50 < rxr> -w ?
14:50 < mnemoc> ignore spacing changes
14:51 < rxr> never tried
14:51 < mnemoc> re-indentation
14:51 < mnemoc> i would like to commit re-indentation but not see re-indentation on svn diff
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14:59 < CIA-9> rene * r6622 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/target/bootdisk/build_stage1.sh:
14:59 < CIA-9> * fixed bootdisk/build_stage1.sh to detect the module directory and
14:59 < CIA-9> not just use the version (might differ like e.g. in linux24benh)
14:59 < CIA-9> * cleaned status output on-the-way
15:03 < mnemoc> bootdisk has too much hardcoded stuff....... .oO( i need to finish uboot)
15:04 < mnemoc> svn diff --diff-cmd /usr/bin/diff -x -uw scripts/Download
15:04 < mnemoc> but doesn't work on ~/.subversion/config
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15:16 < CIA-9> amery * r6623 /trunk/scripts/Download: * changed Download's cksum/convertion to a `case`
15:24 < mnemoc> swig update reverted on my local copy and added to wiki
15:24 < rxr> oh - yes swig is ugly and fragile ...
15:25 < mnemoc> it broke subversion badly
15:28 < rxr> I can imagine...
15:28 < rxr> swig is as harmfull as auto* crap and libtool ...
15:28 * rxr rebooting into osx ...
15:29 < mnemoc> :(
15:34 < CIA-9> amery * r6624 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/ (pkg_iptables_post.conf pkg_linux26_post.conf): * added l7-filter .conf-s to extend iptables and linux26
15:41 < rxr> hm - software patents to be redone in the EU ?
15:42 < rxr> "In January, Microsoft announced a new anti-piracy initiative called Genuine Advantage. From this summer onwards all users of Microsoft Downloads will be required to validate using either an ActiveX control or a standalone tool. Yesterday Ivan Leo Puoti, a Wine developer, discovered that the validation tool checks directly for Wine and bails out with a generic error when found.
15:43 < rxr> http://winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/2005/02/0441.html
15:46 < rxr> wow - in the railway station in Dortmund/Germany the information system is down
15:46 < rxr> due to an defect 80x286 controlling it since 20 years ... ?!?!?
15:46 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/56509
15:47 < daja77> yesterday they said due a broken c64
15:47 < mnemoc> :)
15:48 < mnemoc> can't i buy microsoft products _and_ use them inside wine?
15:48 < rxr> mnemoc: not using the update system soon ...
15:48 < mnemoc> i guess that's ilegal
15:49 < rxr> according to the article they run Xenix on that 286 box and claim new hardware installation would cost 3 million ...
15:49 < mnemoc> oh
15:49 < mnemoc> .oO( xenix on a ia16 machine? )o
15:52 < mnemoc> when was xenix deprecated?
15:55 < mnemoc> http://williambader.com/museum/dell/xenixhistory.html .... /me refreshing knowledge
16:17 < rxr> damn is this rs6k slow ...
16:22 < rxr> wow - zeugen hehova on my door ...
16:22 < rxr> yeha - yes - god - I know - yes - sorry have to continue my products - good day ..
16:22 < CIA-9> rene * r6625 /tags/2.1.0-beta3/target/bootdisk/powerpc/ (build.sh yaboot.conf):
16:22 < CIA-9> * converted bootdisk/powerpc to dynamic boot loader creation including
16:22 < CIA-9> all kernels available (not only this historic ugly ROCK default kernel
16:22 < CIA-9> thingy)
16:23 < rxr> hm - damn
16:23 < rxr> why the hell do I know get Stale NFS handles now ...
16:26 < rxr> ok - srver faul
16:26 < rxr> +t
16:30 < mnemoc> rxr: | xargs touch -t 200001010000 <--- how does this handle timezone?
16:31 < rxr> ?
16:32 < mnemoc> rephrasing....
16:32 < rxr> Disk 1: 662169 kB in 7150 files (boot)
16:32 < rxr> Disk 2: 595050 kB in 507 files
16:32 < mnemoc> does file timestamps consider zones ?
16:33 < mnemoc> if i tar a 200001010000 file, will you see it as 200001010000 ?
16:34 < rxr> I have never tried it ...
16:35 < mnemoc> nope
16:35 < mnemoc> i changed my TZ to asia/baku and it changede
16:39 < c4y0> de donde eres pilies
16:39 < c4y0> sorry
16:39 < rxr> hm - there is most probably some switch for this
16:39 < rxr> clikc
16:39 < rxr> yes - damn osx I knwo that my satup volume is almost full ...
16:40 < mnemoc> # stat -c %y README
16:40 < mnemoc> 2004-12-31 19:02:18.000000000 -0300
16:42 < rxr> mnemoc: I would like to tag the next as -rc1 ...
16:42 < rxr> considered feature complete ...
16:42 < rxr> so if you have s.th. to queue ...
16:42 < mnemoc> i have lot of cleanup to do on Config
16:43 < mnemoc> and i need to finish uboot :(
16:43 < mnemoc> i vote for -beta5 as last beta
16:44 < rxr> eahm - we want a final soon ...
16:44 < rxr> uboot can still be developed ...
16:44 < rxr> as long as it is not a core domponent ...
16:44 < rxr> lol look at this pathes ...
16:44 < rxr> rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-14/rsync/receiver.c(255)
16:44 < rxr> rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (128 bytes read so far)
16:44 < rxr> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-14/rsync/io.c(342)
16:45 < mnemoc> ok, uboot postponed, but there are lot of stuff on TODO
16:46 < rxr> yes
16:46 < rxr> but this gets an never ending storry as rock-2.0
16:46 < rxr> reviewed and tested stuff can always get in
16:46 < rxr> we will ever have s.th. to do ...
16:47 < mnemoc> let's review the TODO during beta5 and split it
16:47 < mnemoc> a road map :)
16:50 < rxr> beta5 ... ?
16:50 < rxr> let's better call it -rc1 or I prediect we will not have the final until our target date
16:51 < mnemoc> ok
16:51 < mnemoc> you win
16:52 < rxr> *lol*
16:52 < mnemoc> but we can't warranty beta4-rc1 full-compatibility
16:56 < mnemoc> aaarg.. touch ignores $TZ too
16:56 * mnemoc going to lunch
16:56 < mnemoc> bbl
16:57 < rxr> I consider pulling kde3.4 in ...
16:57 * rxr off to uni
16:57 < rxr> cu
16:58 < rxr> oh - cool
16:58 < rxr> my speakers work under osx
16:58 < rxr> so seems only some temporary problem ...
17:00 < mnemoc> TZ=UTC0 touch -t 200001010000 README <---- this works!
17:00 < mnemoc> :D
17:00 < mnemoc> cu
17:55 < rxr> for the svn/cvs checkout tarball ?
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17:58 < rxr> ci
17:58 < rxr> cu
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18:36 < mnemoc_> re
18:37 < mnemoc_> rxr: i'm playing with .zip -> .tar.bz2 conversion, but i guess svn/cvs may get fixed in the same way
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18:38 < _Ragnar_> hi
18:38 < mnemoc_> hi _Ragnar_
18:38 < _Ragnar_> hi mnemoc_ :) how's it going?
18:39 < mnemoc_> fine, and you?
18:40 < _Ragnar_> fine fine
18:41 < mnemoc_> good :)
18:41 < _Ragnar_> :)
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19:59 < mnemoc_> rxr: here?
20:03 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: can you try a patch for me?
20:05 < mnemoc_> i'm alone
20:17 < _Ragnar_> mnemoc_: sure
20:17 < _Ragnar_> sorry I'm fighting with samba
20:18 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2.patch
20:18 < mnemoc_> can you apply and tell me what ./scripts/Download zip tells you?
20:18 < mnemoc_> and revert after that :p
20:20 < _Ragnar_> patching file scripts/Download
20:20 < _Ragnar_> Hunk #1 FAILED at 444.
20:20 < _Ragnar_> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file scripts/Download.rej
20:20 < _Ragnar_> patching file scripts/functions
20:20 < _Ragnar_> Hunk #1 FAILED at 40.
20:20 < _Ragnar_> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file scripts/functions.rej
20:20 < mnemoc_> svn before :|
20:20 < mnemoc_> svn up*
20:22 < _Ragnar_> Already downloaded zip:download/mirror/z/zip23.zip ...
20:22 < _Ragnar_> cksum-test: download/mirror/z/zip23.zip
20:22 < _Ragnar_> WARNING: available checksum was calculated for .zip
20:22 < _Ragnar_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 (1590907627)
20:23 < _Ragnar_> should I remove the file?
20:23 < mnemoc_> the file is not create :)
20:23 < mnemoc_> created*
20:24 < mnemoc_> mine gives 3471100658 .....
20:24 < mnemoc_> .oO( what can i be missing )o
20:25 < _Ragnar_> hmm
20:25 < _Ragnar_> timestamp?
20:25 < mnemoc_> i'm addapting it
20:26 < _Ragnar_> each one?
20:26 < mnemoc_> directories only
20:26 < mnemoc_> can you change it to stamp every damn file and try again?
20:27 < mnemoc_> you are busy ... please revert the patch and i'll bother you a bit later
20:28 < _Ragnar_> Already downloaded zip:download/mirror/z/zip23.zip ...
20:28 < _Ragnar_> cksum-test: download/mirror/z/zip23.zip
20:28 < _Ragnar_> WARNING: available checksum was calculated for .zip
20:28 < _Ragnar_> timestamp: 1999-11-28
20:28 < _Ragnar_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 (4039341300)
20:29 < mnemoc_> can you add a sort | before head -n 1 on the line that detects timestamp?
20:29 < _Ragnar_> ah I see, yea
20:30 < mnemoc_> 33721824
20:30 < mnemoc_> + sort and - -type d
20:30 < _Ragnar_> timestamp: 1999-11-07
20:30 < _Ragnar_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 (1442412324)
20:30 < mnemoc_> damn
20:32 < mnemoc_> timestamp: 1999-11-07
20:32 < mnemoc_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 33721824
20:34 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: can you comment if [ $legacycksum -eq 0 ]; then to let it create the .tar.bz2 file and send it to me?
20:34 < mnemoc_> if cksum_chk too
20:34 < _Ragnar_> try -vv to the tar
20:35 < mnemoc_> -rw-r--r-- root/root 4341 1999-11-07 00:00 zip23/revision.h !
20:35 < mnemoc_> timezone
20:35 < mnemoc_> i'm removing minutes from timestamp
20:36 < mnemoc_> then my 00:00 is different than yours
20:36 < _Ragnar_> uhm
20:36 < _Ragnar_> that could be it
20:37 < mnemoc_> i'm try to catch HH:MM
20:37 < _Ragnar_> or the sequence of file (the filesystem might rearrange it)
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20:37 < mnemoc_> oh
20:37 < mnemoc_> i didn't think about that
20:37 < mnemoc_> i'll have to generate a sorted file list to give to tar :|
20:37 * _Ragnar_ nods
20:38 < mnemoc_> ok, svn revert scripts/{functions,Download} and keep dancing samba :)
20:38 < _Ragnar_> do you have any idea why samba + 2.6 garbles dir listings?
20:40 < mnemoc_> o_O
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20:46 < _Ragnar_> btw having ldap in samba by default (when ldap is installed) is foobar imho ... since then it doesn't seem to read smbpasswd any more _at all_
20:50 < mnemoc_> uhm? i use tdb and my samba has ldap support
20:52 < _Ragnar_> so you don't use smbpasswd
20:53 < _Ragnar_> and it seems the ldap auth option silently removes smbpasswd
20:54 < mnemoc_> i thought smbpasswd used the selected backend :p
20:54 < mnemoc_> but true, i use tdbedit and not smbpasswd
20:54 < _Ragnar_> not smbpasswd the command, but /etc/opt/samba/smbpasswd the file
20:55 < mnemoc_> isn't that deprecated?
20:55 < _Ragnar_> the latter isn't consulted at all any more when ldap is turned on
20:55 < mnemoc_> you can var_remove it from your target
20:55 < _Ragnar_> yea did so
20:56 < mnemoc_> quite weird anyway
20:56 < _Ragnar_> but I think that'll hit any updater that switches to t2
20:56 < _Ragnar_> (and is not using tdb)
20:57 < mnemoc_> do you propose to add an option for it?
20:57 < mnemoc_> that option would add a complete new Config menu :|
20:58 < _Ragnar_> a warning might be better if smbpasswd is deprecated anyway
20:58 < mnemoc_> a warning where?
20:58 < _Ragnar_> sbin/init.d/samba?
20:59 < mnemoc_> i don't even use that script :p
20:59 < _Ragnar_> like if [ -f /etc/opt/samba/private/smbpasswd ]; echo "please convert to tdb" ... ;)
20:59 < mnemoc_> yes, sounds ok
20:59 < _Ragnar_> what do you use?
20:59 < mnemoc_> if [ -f D_sysconfdir/private/smbpasswd ]; ....
20:59 < mnemoc_> runit
21:00 < mnemoc_> package/base/runit/packages/samba-*.txt
21:02 < _Ragnar_> interesting
21:05 < mnemoc_> errr.... --files-from= makes tar ignore -C
21:14 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2.patch :D
21:15 < _Ragnar_> v2?:)
21:16 < mnemoc_> oops, forgot to version it
21:16 < _Ragnar_> bzip'ing zip file + cksum-test: download/mirror/z/zip23.zip
21:16 < _Ragnar_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 3420878482
21:16 < mnemoc_> *g*
21:16 < mnemoc_> download/mirror/z/zip23.tar.bz2 3420878482
21:16 < mnemoc_> :D
21:16 < mnemoc_> :DDDD
21:16 * _Ragnar_ pets mnemoc_ ;)
21:16 < _Ragnar_> kewl
21:16 < mnemoc_> thanks a lot
21:18 < mnemoc_> rxr: we have stable checksum for .tar.bz2 files generated from .zip-s :D
21:20 < rxr> re
21:20 < mnemoc_> rxr: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2.patch
21:22 < mnemoc_> wb rene :)
21:22 < rxr> yeah hi
21:24 * mnemoc_ worried by the silence of Mr. Core Architect
21:25 * mnemoc_ hits him self...... he built a full mnemosyne-desktop for him laptop but he did it opt=generic!
21:25 < mnemoc_> # ./scripts/Cleanup -full build/inspiron-2.1
21:25 < mnemoc_> removing build/inspiron-2.1.0-beta4-x86-mnemosyne-expert ..
21:27 < _Ragnar_> ;)
21:30 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2-v3.patch <--- this includes the checksums i got for every .zip file, can you apply and ./scripts/Download -all to see if there are conflicts?
21:31 < rxr> mnemoc_: I rebooted from osx into linux - thus the silence ...
21:31 < mnemoc_> detached-silence :)
21:31 < _Ragnar_> ;)
21:32 < rxr> mnemoc_: btw. I remeber the biggest problem with the checksum stuff for self tared files was different tar versions ...
21:32 < rxr> the archive will differ ...
21:32 < mnemoc_> do you have different versions of tar to test?
21:33 < mnemoc_> but i think users must use mirrors, which shall be updated, and developers have new tar :)
21:34 < _Ragnar_> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/s/simhv33-1.zip.cksum-err (1029606063)
21:34 < mnemoc_> damn
21:34 < _Ragnar_> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/D/Domestic_Manners.zip.cksum-err (617424913)
21:34 < _Ragnar_> and a few more ....
21:34 < mnemoc_> damn damn damn
21:35 < rxr> mnemoc_: _Ragnar_ tar versions in use?
21:35 < mnemoc_> tar (GNU tar) 1.13
21:35 < _Ragnar_> tar --version
21:35 < _Ragnar_> tar (GNU tar) 1.13
21:36 < mnemoc_> uhm
21:38 < rxr> hm
21:39 < rxr> _Ragnar_: send mnemoc the tar archive ..
21:39 < rxr> mnemoc_: you can diff the decompressed .tar ;-)
21:39 < mnemoc_> # ./scripts/Download -mk-cksum download/mirror/s/simhv33-1.zip
21:39 < mnemoc_> download/mirror/s/simhv33-1.zip: 1689829310
21:39 < rxr> # ./scripts/Create-ErrList -cfg system
21:39 < rxr> Error logs from system-2.1.0-beta4-x86-athlon-desktop:
21:39 < rxr> [5] base/slang
21:39 < rxr> 1064 builds total, 248 completed fine, 1 with errors.
21:39 < rxr> 
21:40 < mnemoc_> rxr: i'll have to, _Ragnar_ can you mail me one or the err-ed tarballs?
21:40 < mnemoc_> slang???? why?
21:40 < rxr> I guess PARALLEL
21:41 < rxr> ar: ...o: No such file or directory
21:41 < mnemoc_> o_O
21:41 < _Ragnar_> http://66.146.166.62/~ragnar/Winks.zip.cksum-err
21:41 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: can you give me the cksum of the original .zip?
21:42 < _Ragnar_> how?
21:42 < mnemoc_> ./scripts/Download -mk-cksum download/mirror/W/Winks.zip
21:43 < rxr> wow - got the first mail from the dietlibc list today ...
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21:43 < _Ragnar_> uhm ... that got deleted
21:43 < mnemoc_> .cksum-err is the file
21:44 < _Ragnar_> oh
21:44 < mnemoc_> the function that validates it does the rename
21:44 < _Ragnar_> 3094955100
21:44 < mnemoc_> download/mirror/W/Winks.zip: 3094955100
21:44 < mnemoc_> same here
21:44 < CIA-9> rene * r6626 /trunk/package/ (base/lynx/ www/lynx/): * moved base/lynx -> www
21:45 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: for x in download/mirror/*/*.zip.cksum-err; do mv -v $x ${x%.cksum-err}; done
21:46 < _Ragnar_> k
21:48 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: you sent me the .zip :D
21:48 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: i need the tar :p
21:49 < _Ragnar_> ?!?
21:49 < CIA-9> rene * r6627 /trunk/package/base/slang/slang.desc: * marked slang NOPARALLEL - just failed here two times in a row
21:49 < mnemoc_> you may need to comment the lines that avoid it's creation
21:52 < _Ragnar_> and where does it create the tmp-file?
21:53 < mnemoc_> src/down....
21:54 < _Ragnar_> see http://66.146.166.62/~ragnar/down.download-mirror-W-Winks.tar.bz2
21:57 < mnemoc_> thanks
21:58 < rxr> 1064 builds total, 263 completed fine, 0 with errors.
21:58 < rxr> stage 5 of course
21:59 < _Ragnar_> bbl, lunch
21:59 < mnemoc_> i got broke alsa-tool and xscreensaver
22:00 < mnemoc_> nothing else on my mnemosyne-desktop /generic/ i just removed
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22:00 < jeru> moin
22:00 < rxr> hi jeru
22:01 < jeru> hi rxr
22:01 < jeru> everything fine?
22:01 < rxr> oh sure
22:03 < jeru> :)
22:12 * rxr starting to erase ROCK isos from my server ...
22:12 < rxr> needing space for t2 ones ...
22:12 < rxr> 11GB removed ...
22:13 < jeru> rxr: so you're building a new release?
22:15 < rxr> I already built them ...
22:15 < rxr> for the last weeks :-(
22:15 < rxr> to be released this night or in the morning ..
22:15 < rxr> -beta ...
22:15 < rxr> -beta3 ...
22:15 < rxr> mnemoc_: /me updating links
22:15 < rxr> ok ?
22:16 < jeru> :) allright
22:16 < mnemoc_> ok
22:17 < jeru> hi mnemoc ... thought you were at lunch ;)
22:17 < mnemoc_> uhm...... 4 hours ago
22:17 < jeru> ahhh :)
22:18 < jeru> was on the road whole day ... but have a new project in my pocket :)
22:20 < mnemoc_> :)
22:20 < mnemoc_> where were you traveling to?
22:21 < jeru> ahh just cross the whole city of berlin, from one corner to the other
22:21 < mnemoc_> 4 hours??
22:22 < mnemoc_> damn
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22:22 < jeru> hmmm ... allmost
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22:23 < mnemoc_> # md5sum Ragnar-Winks.tar Mnemoc-Winks.tar
22:23 < mnemoc_> 9bc21592f29927679647a2abcce20a2d Ragnar-Winks.tar
22:23 < mnemoc_> 032bc9b7b34f3bbfcafd99041757b776 Mnemoc-Winks.tar
22:23 < mnemoc_> let's compare those bastards
22:25 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: timezone again :|
22:25 < mnemoc_> tar -vvtf Ragnar-Winks.tar
22:25 < mnemoc_> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2002-08-19 15:20 Winks/
22:25 < mnemoc_> -rw-rw-rw- root/root 19092 2002-08-19 15:20 Winks/license.txt
22:25 < mnemoc_> tar -vvtf Mnemoc-Winks.tar
22:25 < mnemoc_> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2002-08-19 12:20 Winks/
22:25 < mnemoc_> -rw-rw-rw- root/root 19092 2002-08-19 12:20 Winks/license.txt
22:25 < mnemoc_> -rw-rw-rw- root/root 19568 2002-08-19 09:27 Winks/Winks.ttf
22:34 < CIA-9> jeru * r6628 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/Services/Network/bridge.ask: * added vlan packacke to bridge option
22:34 < jeru> package ofcourse ;)
22:34 < jeru> I'm really off ;)
22:34 < mnemoc_> jeru: i'm not sure if vlan goes there :)
22:35 < jeru> do you want it separate?
22:35 < mnemoc_> nah
22:35 < mnemoc_> :)
22:35 < mnemoc_> maybe later
22:38 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: still here? http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2-v4.patch .... this is dry-run again
22:38 < rxr> wow - links is not bad
22:39 < rxr> if I can get that onto the psion revo - wow !
22:39 < mnemoc_> i told you!
22:39 < mnemoc_> links is cool
22:39 < rxr> do you use it for some desktop ?
22:40 < mnemoc_> X-less machines
22:41 < CIA-9> rene * r6629 /trunk/package/www/links/ (links.conf links.desc):
22:41 < CIA-9> * updated links (2.1pre15 -> 2.1pre16)
22:41 < CIA-9> * fixed the svgalib,... xfree86 conditional to use xorg, but commented
22:41 < CIA-9> it out, since we can always run on a plain framebuffer
22:45 < jeru> rxr: I know links quite some time and I like it too ... btw: it's the 'standard' text browser of the 'geeks and pimps' from gentoo ;)
22:45 < rxr> cool - when I have luck I get my new color laser printer tomorrow ...
22:46 < rxr> the one for the cebit prints ;-)
22:46 < jeru> ahh :)
22:46 < rxr> hm
22:46 < rxr> the links binary is quite fat 2MB and linked against libstdc++ ... :-(
22:47 < rxr> of course the arm one would at least be smaller due to avoide X11, SDL and openssl dependencies ...
22:47 < rxr> but it might still be too fat ...
22:48 < rxr> cool - but links itself does not call g++ - so with minimal deps it hopefuly does not have libstdc+
22:48 < rxr> + deps ...
22:50 < rxr> ah - libSDL is -> libstdc++ ...
22:53 < mnemoc_> re
22:55 < mnemoc_> can anyone help me with some tests for http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2-v4.patch ?
22:55 < mnemoc_> rxr: you forgot checksum for links
22:56 < mnemoc_> rxr: and btw, links _needs_ directfb to get framebuffer support
22:56 < rxr> ohem - sure? built here ...
22:57 < mnemoc_> maybe new feature
22:57 < rxr> I have no directfb on my iBook ...
22:57 < mnemoc_> xorg? svgalib?
22:57 < mnemoc_> what logs say?
22:57 < rxr> checking for directfb-config... no
22:58 < mnemoc_> xorg? svgalib? another graphic thing?
22:58 < rxr> I tried it on the framebuffer works there ...
22:58 < mnemoc_> lib{png,jpeg,...}
22:58 < mnemoc_> nice to know :)
22:59 < rxr> --without-fb compile without Linux Framebuffer graphics driver
22:59 < rxr> --without-directfb compile without DirectFB graphics driver
22:59 < mnemoc_> :D
22:59 < mnemoc_> linux framebuffer support!
23:00 < rxr> maybe it depends on SDL ...
23:00 < mnemoc_> http://www.geeks.cl/~amery/zip2tbz2-v4.patch ?? ... i only need some test outputs, and that patch is dry-run
23:01 < rxr> Graphics drivers: FB X SDL
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23:02 < mnemoc_> forth condition :(
23:03 < rxr> ah - SDL seems to be new in pre16
23:03 < rxr> no indication of SDL in pre15
23:06 < rxr> yep - new in pre16
23:08 < mnemoc_> anyone use lvm2 here?
23:09 < jeru> mnemoc: atm no lvm2 user
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23:11 < rxr> even with all but fb disabled links is still fat ...
23:11 < rxr> 2971540 Feb 17 23:10 /usr/bin/links
23:16 < mnemoc_> how much does dillo weights?
23:17 < _Ragnar_> re
23:20 < mnemoc_> re _Ragnar_
23:27 < _Ragnar_> ./scripts/Download: line 495: syntax error near unexpected token `fi'
23:27 < _Ragnar_> ./scripts/Download: line 495: ` fi'
23:27 < mnemoc_> uhm?
23:28 < mnemoc_> oh
23:28 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: remove the else please
23:29 < mnemoc_> can you try zip and cheapskatefonts and paste the checksums you get please?
23:33 < mnemoc_> v4.1.patch includes 'else' fix :p
23:34 < _Ragnar_> zip seems to work
23:34 < rxr> but only when the same recent tar version is used
23:35 < rxr> I know older ones generate slithgly different headers ...
23:35 < _Ragnar_> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/W/Winks.tar.bz2.cksum-err (2453882166)
23:35 < rxr> 2688776 Feb 17 23:35 /usr/bin/links
23:35 < rxr> without most features ...
23:35 < rxr> but ah - yes it embedds fonts I read
23:35 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: i din't give you checksums.... i haven't regenerated them
23:35 < rxr> need to investigate that later
23:36 < mnemoc_> did you reverted?
23:36 < _Ragnar_> nun?
23:36 < _Ragnar_> huh?
23:37 < mnemoc_> rxr: so, you think we can't enforce users to use mirrors and we shall keep keeping using .zip, .Z, etc...?
23:37 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: svn revert package/*/cheapskatefonts/*
23:37 < mnemoc_> _Ragnar_: v4 only includes some TZ= handling
23:38 < _Ragnar_> uh huh
23:38 < mnemoc_> i got the same for Winks you got! :)
23:39 < _Ragnar_> ;p
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23:40 < rxr> http://gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/2.1.0-beta3/desktop/
23:40 < rxr> ^- pps untestted
23:40 < rxr> ppc even
23:40 < rxr> x86 works
23:40 < jeru> mnemoc: download/mirror/W/Winks.tar.bz2 1759368460
23:41 < mnemoc_> tar --version
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23:42 < mnemoc_> jeru: tar --version ?
23:43 < jeru> mnemoc: 1.14
23:43 < mnemoc_> oh
23:43 < jeru> oh what ?
23:43 < rxr> n8
23:44 < jeru> rxr: good night
23:45 < mnemoc_> rxr: you didn't answered :(
23:50 < jeru> mnemoc: after upgrading tar to HEAD version I get: download/mirror/W/Winks.tar.bz2 1914806242
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