--- Log opened Sun Jan 09 00:00:00 2005 --- Day changed Sun Jan 09 2005 00:00 < mnemoc_> hm. rock switching away from rockplug? <--- uhm? 00:00 -!- tschmidt [~tschmidt@p508EB63C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:05 < rxr> mnemoc_: ? 00:25 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@64.237.130.154] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:28 < rxr> that I once would write such into a svn commit message: 00:29 < rxr> => BUILD 123 (all only tested under Mac OSX ...) 00:39 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 1234 completed fine, 38 with errors. 00:39 < rxr> some erros gather togeter towars the end ... 01:14 < mnemoc_> rxr: here? 01:17 < rxr> yes 01:17 < rxr> but only -5 seconds ... 01:18 < rxr> -15 01:18 < mnemoc_> i did an script to 'backup' important info of test builds 01:18 < mnemoc_> i'll commit it 01:18 < rxr> ok ;-) 01:18 < mnemoc_> and you some day tell me if it packs info you find usefull 01:19 < rxr> I take a look as soon as time permits - maybe not tomorrow ... 01:19 < mnemoc_> ok 01:19 < rxr> yep ;-) 01:19 < mnemoc_> =) 01:19 < rxr> feel free to remind me about xmlrpc ... 01:19 < rxr> n8 all 01:19 < rxr> osx suck ... 01:19 < rxr> urgs .. 01:19 < tschmidt_> n8 rxr 01:20 < rxr> good that I can rest a few hours from it ... 01:20 < rxr> n8 tschmidt_ ;-) 01:20 < mnemoc_> Committed revision 5488. 01:20 < mnemoc_> n8 rxr 02:03 -!- tschmidt__ [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 02:52 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.194.88.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 02:52 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta2 RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | http://www.exactcode.de/t2 02:52 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Dec 28 14:55:44 2004] 02:52 [Users #t2] 02:52 [ _Ragnar_] [ jsaw ] [ praenti] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin] 02:52 [ daja77 ] [ mnemoc_] [ rxr ] [ tschmidt_] 02:52 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 9 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal] 02:52 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 02:52 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 02:53 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 02:56 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.196.126.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:43 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:01 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@64.237.130.154] has joined #t2 04:44 < mnemoc_> rxr_,jsaw:something is wrong on cfg profiler 04:45 < mnemoc_> # grep ccache config/boot/packages 04:45 < mnemoc_> X -1---5---- 105.400 develop ccache 2.4 / base/development DIETLIBC 0 04:46 < mnemoc_> # ./scripts/Config -cfg boot -oldconfig 04:46 < mnemoc_> Creating configuration script. 04:46 < mnemoc_> T2 2.1.0-beta3 configuration ... 04:46 < mnemoc_> Building src/config_helper.so. 04:46 < mnemoc_> ++++ pkgcheck ccache X 04:46 < mnemoc_> ++++ bprof pkgcheck start 04:46 < mnemoc_> ++++ : 04:46 < mnemoc_> ++++ cfghlp pkgcheck ccache X 04:46 < mnemoc_> ++++ local ret=1 04:46 < mnemoc_> ++++ bprof pkgcheck stop 04:46 < mnemoc_> ++++ : 04:46 < mnemoc_> ++++ return 1 04:46 < mnemoc_> ++++ set +x 04:46 < mnemoc_> New config written to config/boot/*. 04:46 < mnemoc_> Cleaning up. Configuration finished. 04:46 < mnemoc_> night-flood :) 04:48 < mnemoc_> i know now 04:49 < mnemoc_> ccache is enabled on expert zone after user zone's pkgsel are queried 04:50 < mnemoc_> i'll think while is sleep 04:50 < mnemoc_> gn8 * 07:14 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has joined #t2 08:23 -!- You're now known as rxr 08:23 < rxr> ouhm 08:23 < jsaw> rxr.... 08:23 < jsaw> good morning 08:24 < rxr> good morning ;-) 08:24 < jsaw> read this: 08:24 < jsaw> Thanks. I took another look, found the bug, and fixed it. It's 08:24 < jsaw> entwined, or at least complicated by, a separate feature addition since 08:24 < jsaw> bash-3.0, so I will probably not be releasing it as a separate patch 08:24 < jsaw> to 3.0. If you'd like, I will add you to the list of bash testers, so 08:24 < jsaw> you'll get the first look at 3.1 when it goes into testing. 08:24 < rxr> jsaw: I guess you have not yet slept ? 08:24 < jsaw> I have slept. I woke up in Marlene's room around 3am 08:24 < rxr> jsaw: he will not sent a patch to us right now ? 08:25 < jsaw> (was fallen asleep aside here bed around 9) 08:25 < jsaw> rxr: looks like... I'll ask him for one. 08:27 * rxr breaskfast ... - cu 08:29 < jsaw> cu also 09:51 < rxr> re 10:04 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 1325 completed fine, 45 with errors. 10:28 < jsaw> very nice 10:28 < rxr> I schedule to invest every free minute to fix them all as soon as possible 10:29 < rxr> report and URL to the logs on the list ... 11:14 < rxr> I just scrolled over all error logs - only annoying stuff ... 12:05 < jsaw> btw annoying.. I wonder if all programs are linke against libpython-whatever.a (like blender). If somebody finds a way to generate a shared pythonlib... would be great 12:06 < jsaw> gotta, go. cu later. 12:19 < rxr> yeah - we should do that ... 12:29 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.5] has joined #t2 12:30 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ 12:30 < rxr> hi mnemoc_ 12:30 < rxr> hi mnemoc 12:30 < rxr> damn terminal thing here .. 12:31 < rxr> so - fedora builds python as shared object 12:31 < rxr> I take a look when I'm back from lunch to get our pacakge fixed ... 12:31 < rxr> cu 12:31 < rxr> (soon) 12:32 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 12:32 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.47] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:26 < rxr> hm - intersting - the seleciton in safari contains the same bugs as it does in konqueror 13:26 < rxr> I thought the apple crew polished it at least a bit ... 13:28 < tschmidt_> safari inherited from konqueror? 13:28 < rxr> yep 13:28 < rxr> that was some quite big announced thing last year 13:28 < rxr> safari used KHTML ... 13:29 < rxr> they announced it quite big - and upset the Mozilla people, because they announced quite big that they reviewed available open source HTMl engines and found the Mozilla one quite ugly coded, buggy, hat and unmaintainable / unfixable and thus went KHTML ... ;-) 13:30 < rxr> s/hat/fat/ ... 13:31 < rxr> http://www.apple.com/safari/ 13:31 < rxr> the right side box ... 13:32 < rxr> Open Source 13:32 < rxr> Safari uses open source software for its web page rendering engine, Safari draws on KHTML and KJS software from the KDE open source project. Being a good open source citizen, Apple shares its enhancements with the open source community. 13:32 < rxr> ah - yes - forgot they also use the KDE Javascript engine ... 13:34 < tschmidt_> nice 13:35 < rxr> cool thing is that apple sent and still sends quite a lot patches to the kde developers ... 13:36 < tschmidt_> thats really respectable - most company don't 14:58 < mnemoc> rehi 14:59 < mnemoc> moin! 14:59 < mnemoc> err 14:59 < mnemoc> ignore one 15:09 < tschmidt_> moin mnemoc 15:10 < mnemoc> moin tschmidt_ 15:10 -!- tschmidt_ is now known as nzg 15:11 < mnemoc> uhm, linux26 is broken 15:13 < rxr> ? 15:13 < rxr> ouhm - just right now it took nearly 10 seconds for this osx to react to the volume up/down keypress ... 15:13 < rxr> never experienced such a long delay before - sepecially not under the T2/Linux I run normally ... 15:15 < mnemoc> have you used freebsd? 15:16 < mnemoc> rxr: where that dates came from? 15:17 < mnemoc> i think we can do it 15:18 < mnemoc> beta3 needs some runtime testing only 15:18 < mnemoc> and i hope to have uboot well tested on beta4 date 15:19 < rxr> I have not adminstrated freebsd in the past that much - I have accounts on freebsd boxes at the uni ... 15:19 < rxr> mnemoc: the dates come out of the callender, picking the sunday near the 1st and 15th ... 15:19 < mnemoc> good planning method :p 15:20 < mnemoc> i'll write, after shower, my TODO for 2.1.0, can you try to do something similar and then discuss it on the list? 15:21 < rxr> I read over yours first and comment it then ... 15:21 < mnemoc> ok 15:21 < mnemoc> i'll send it today 15:21 * mnemoc to shower 15:22 < mnemoc> uhm... how is that written? shoawer? 15:22 < rxr> 1370 builds total, 1326 completed fine, 44 with errors. 15:22 < mnemoc> :D 15:22 < rxr> koffice fixed by python --enable-shared ... 15:22 < mnemoc> great 15:22 < rxr> shower was right ... 15:22 < rxr> the other python regressions did not change (at least they still fail) 15:23 * rxr off preparing some more tea 15:28 -!- ideal [~idealm@211.100.227.107] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:35 < mnemoc> rxr: extras/drm/linux/Makefile:284: *** CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG needs to be enabled in the kernel. 15:35 < mnemoc> why the heck i'm building drm here?? 15:37 < rxr> this are the DRM modules in the xorg postlinux.conf ... 15:37 < rxr> this X86_CMPXCHG is a known problems here already 15:37 < rxr> we should take a look what's going on there ... 15:37 < mnemoc> enalbe that by default? 15:38 < rxr> this is not available as config option but depends on CPU optimization selected ... 15:38 < mnemoc> oh 15:38 < rxr> when you build for generic 386 you do not get X86_CMPXCHG .... 15:38 < mnemoc> pmmx in my case 15:38 < rxr> the package however builds for my pentium-mmx and athlon builds ... 15:38 < mnemoc> brb 16:02 < rxr> mnemoc: I think I downdate wxwidgets 16:03 < rxr> jsaw: even ... - since you updated it ... 16:40 < valentin> So far we decided to try 16:40 < valentin> hard to release 2.1.0-final before the 2.0.0 ROCK Linux anniversary 16:40 < valentin> (for the fun of it) which was released 07.03.2004. 16:40 < valentin> -final: 27.03. 16:40 < valentin> ??? 16:41 < rxr> 02 ... 16:41 < valentin> ok :) 16:49 -!- tschmidt [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 16:50 -!- Netsplit saberhagen.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: nzg, sparc-kly 16:50 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nzg, sparc-kly 17:17 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:17 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@64.237.130.154] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:27 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@64.237.130.154] has joined #t2 17:41 < jsaw> re 17:41 < jsaw> rxr: if you downdate wxwidgets, other programs will fail... 17:42 < jsaw> and wxwidgets 2.4 will not work with gtk2 but depend ont gtk1 17:47 < rxr> hm 17:47 < rxr> ok 17:48 < jsaw> I'm not sure what's better... 17:50 < jsaw> blender fixed? 17:50 < jsaw> (you said python is build shared now?) 17:51 < rxr> ADVICE: take ObjC warnings about "may not rspond to xyz" serious 17:51 < rxr> you might waste hours or days tracking annoying bugs otherwise ... 17:52 < mnemoc> rxr: why? 17:53 < mnemoc> ok 17:53 < rxr> don't ask me ... 17:53 < rxr> we just tracked one of such miscompiled code cases since last night midnight ... 17:54 < jsaw> <- gone again. dinner. cu later! 17:55 < mnemoc> cu jsaw 17:56 < rxr> this line was miscompiled 17:56 < rxr> bufferFill += [self fillDataBuffer:(buffer + bufferFill) ofMaxLength:readBytes]; 17:57 < rxr> bufferFill += [self fillDataBuffer:(buffer + bufferFill) 17:57 < rxr> ofMaxLength:readBytes]; 17:57 < rxr> added random junk ... 17:57 < rxr> don't ask me - I do right now want to know the details .. 18:20 < mnemoc> rxr: python svn bindings build on your reference? 18:23 < mnemoc> i was thining in adding subwiki on t2.geeks.cl, comments? 18:24 < rxr> if you wanna try out wiki, what about wiki.t2-project.org ... 18:31 < mnemoc> oh 18:32 < mnemoc> i thought you had already configured it ;) 18:33 < mnemoc> the name doesn't matter to me yet, wiki.t2-p.o is a great definitive name, i was thinking in engine for now 18:36 < rxr> so - wiki. goes to your IP and you pay with the wiki stuff so see how it works out ... ? 18:37 < mnemoc> pay? 18:38 < mnemoc> python python 18:38 < rxr> mnemoc: ? 18:39 < rxr> btw. looks like the python bindings have been build during the ref build... 18:40 < mnemoc> good 18:40 < mnemoc> i'll have to get used to python 18:40 < rxr> but before I did the --enable-shared change ... 19:04 * mnemoc miss CIA 19:16 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:16 -!- tschmidt [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 19:17 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:20 < mnemoc> rxr: you made a typo on qtparted.conf, svn up 19:56 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:56 -!- praenti_ [~praenti@82.139.198.99] has joined #t2 23:07 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 23:15 < mnemoc> hi nzg 23:15 < rxr> hi all 23:15 < nzg> moin rxr, mnemoc 23:18 -!- freddy [~uni@pD95D0AAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 23:18 < freddy> hi all 23:18 < rxr> hi 23:19 < freddy> hi rxr 23:19 < jsaw> re 23:19 < rxr> hi jsaw ! 23:19 < jsaw> hi rxr :) 23:20 < jsaw> hi mnemoc nzg freddy 23:20 < nzg> moin jsaw 23:20 < nzg> moin freddy 23:20 < mnemoc> hi freedy 23:21 < mnemoc> i have a qustion about php to the t2-community present :) 23:21 < rxr> ouhm 23:21 * rxr no php expert ... 23:21 < rxr> where is maddin ... ;-) 23:21 < mnemoc> no, pacakge related 23:22 < mnemoc> php has lot of option we permit to config if dependencies are installed 23:22 < rxr> ok.-) 23:22 < mnemoc> but they are 0 by default 23:23 < mnemoc> so an emerge will never extend php according to what is installed on the machine 23:23 < rxr> that is not perfect .. ,-) 23:23 < mnemoc> shouldn't those options be 1 by default? 23:23 < rxr> maybe even be deteacted ... 23:23 < rxr> at least the usual stuff like zlib or so ... 23:24 < mnemoc> another vote for 'magic'? any vote for enabled by default if dependency is available? 23:24 < rxr> my magic means "enabled by default if dep avail" ... 23:25 < mnemoc> != autoenable if dep available? 23:26 < rxr> ah ok - i see the difference you meabn 23:27 < mnemoc> pkgcheck -> ROCKCFG -> [ ROCKCFG != 0 ] && pkginstalled && var_append 23:31 < rxr> I just clicked the build button 4 (four!) timey to get xcode to start compiling ... 23:32 < mnemoc> wasn't apple the king of usability? 23:33 < rxr> yeah - the usability is so high that it annoys me the wohle day and let me pray to get back into my beloved linux ... 23:33 < rxr> #t2 the silent list of osx bugs ... 23:34 < mnemoc> osx-bugs@exactcode.de 23:36 -!- tschmidt [~tschmidt@pD95F8D6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 23:37 < rxr> hi tschmidt 23:37 < tschmidt> rehi rxr 23:37 < tschmidt> damn cable.... i definitly need wlan... 23:38 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:39 -!- tschmidt [~tschmidt@pD95F8D6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:39 -!- tschmidt [~tschmidt@xchangecenter.de] has joined #t2 23:39 -!- tschmidt is now known as nzg 23:40 < nzg> if that sover doesn't crash anymore, i should not be disconnected that often anymore ;-) 23:41 < nzg> s/sover/server 23:41 < mnemoc> good luck :) 23:45 < nzg> mnemoc: thx ;) 23:54 < jsaw> I think the postlinux thing is a problem for ./scripts/Create-ErrList -newdelete (sorry - no time to fix it myself) --- Log closed Mon Jan 10 00:00:46 2005