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T2 IRC Log: 2004-12-25

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--- Log opened Sat Dec 25 00:00:41 2004
02:50 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.199.104.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
02:50 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.0-beta RELEASED | The next generation of System Development Enviroments (SDE) | Happy Christmas people! | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
02:50 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Fri Dec 24 20:33:48 2004]
02:50 [Users #t2]
02:50 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9 ] [ hannes_] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
02:50 [ cchamilt] [ daja77] [ jsaw ] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
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02:50 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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03:03 < rxr> moin
03:05 < rxr> mnemoc: the file version number is good
03:08 < jsaw> http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/categories.html
03:08 < jsaw> hi rxr
03:08 < jsaw> <- me at my in-laws
03:09 < jsaw> my mom is picking us up at 11.00 so I really should go to bed :(
03:16 < jsaw> so maybe I'm back on Sunday (no inet at my moms place). G'Night.
03:17 < rxr> hm
03:17 < rxr> ok - cu
03:17 < rxr> altough I'm in the room above the AP right now - the link quality is still very bad ...
03:17 < rxr> damn modern steel concrete ceilings ...
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03:48 < rxr> hi sparc-kly_
03:58 < rxr> == 03:56:52 =[9]=> Building network/iproute2 [2.6.9-041019 2.1.0-beta3].
03:58 < rxr> -> Preparing configuration to build this package with dietlibc (statically).
03:58 < rxr> -> Identifing as glibc 3.x to package!
03:58 < rxr> == 12/25/04 03:57:39 =[9]=> Finished building package iproute2.
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04:07 < CIA-9> rene * r5216 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/parse-config-9: * promote __GLIBC__=3 to iptables during dietlibc build
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04:15 < CIA-9> rene * r5217 /trunk/package/network/iproute2/iproute2.conf: * fixed iproute2's sbin binary installation location
04:18 < rxr> B 2.6.10
04:19 < rxr> linux
04:24 < rxr> wow:
04:27 < CIA-9> rene * r5218 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/package/ (base/dietlibc/parse-config-9 network/iproute2/iproute2.conf):
04:27 < CIA-9> * merged r5215:5217 from trunk to tags/2.1.0-beta2
04:27 < CIA-9> * fixes iproute2 compilation with dietlibc and sbin location
04:28 < rxr> link quality: 35/92
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06:11 < mnemoc> re
06:11 < mnemoc> rxr: thanks a lot for fixing iproute2!
06:13 < mnemoc> rxr: i think beta2 is ready for release :)
06:13 < mnemoc> rxr: i'm on 5-kdebindings of a generic pmmx, do you want to announce after isos are done?
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14:36 < rene> hm
14:37 < rene> s.th. not quite right with my home box :-(
14:37 < rene> hm - maybe just reconnecting ...
15:33 < rene> hi cchamilt, you here?
15:50 < cchamilt> Yeah I ust got up
15:55 < mnemoc> moin!
15:56 < mnemoc> hi rene, cchamilt
15:56 < mnemoc> nice to see you around
15:56 < mnemoc> -> Extracting isolinux boot loader.
15:56 < mnemoc> tar: -O: Not found in archive
15:56 < mnemoc> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
15:56 < mnemoc> *weird*
15:57 < cchamilt> hi mnemoc
16:05 < rene> cchamilt: how are you these days?
16:05 < mnemoc> do you had white xmas?
16:08 < mnemoc> did you have*
16:09 < cchamilt> rene: pretty good, I just have been doing other things than rock for awhile.
16:10 < rene> yeah - sure ;-)
16:10 < rene> nice to see
16:10 < rene> (how I like this: -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 100.00% (140 hits, 0 misses))
16:10 < mnemoc> rene: may this (1-gcc) be because your patch to add globbing on ld?
16:10 < mnemoc> /usr/src/building/t2/2.1.0-beta2/build/full-2.1.0-beta2-x86-pentium-mmx-32-generic-expert/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/crosscc/../lib/gcc/i586-unkno
16:10 < mnemoc> wn-linux-gnu/3.4.3/../../../../i586-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld: warning: ld-linux.so.2, needed by /lib/libc.so.6, not found (try using -rpath o
16:10 < mnemoc> r -rpath-link)
16:10 < mnemoc> /lib/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `_dl_lookup_versioned_symbol_skip@GLIBC_PRIVATE'
16:10 < cchamilt> I had a small amount of snow, less than an inch. A hundred miles up there was over a foot.
16:11 < rene> mnemoc: hm - I hope not
16:11 < rene> could you try reverting the globbing patch locally ?
16:12 < mnemoc> and rebuild 0-binutils...
16:12 < rene> ...
16:13 < mnemoc> ...
16:17 < mnemoc> cchamilt: how many years have you passed without even an inch of snow? ;)
16:17 < mnemoc> rene: and you? got snow?
16:17 < mnemoc> i have _32C_ and no wind :\
16:19 < cchamilt> mnemoc: I have no idea, but it is rare even in Ohio this time of year - much less Singapore.
16:19 < mnemoc> Ohio?! country or city?
16:20 < cchamilt> State - kind of a country with a government over it for international stuff.
16:21 < mnemoc> bad enlgish, i thouth yu where from the east
16:21 < cchamilt> Of course the civil war specified which gov has more authority.
16:22 * mnemoc a bit confused
16:22 * mnemoc needs a map
16:23 < cchamilt> Ohio is in the beginning of the midwest of the US, so it is more east and north than most.
16:23 < cchamilt> :)
16:23 < mnemoc> found! just bellow detroit :)
16:23 < cchamilt> We have dumb region names based on old pioneer routes.
16:24 < mnemoc> i had the idea of ohio near utah and so :p
16:24 * mnemoc kicks himself
16:24 < cchamilt> Nah, it is as west as US was officially when it was founded.
16:25 < cchamilt> ie. not much
16:25 < mnemoc> == 12/25/04 12:23:10 =[1]=> Finished building package binutils.
16:26 < mnemoc> http://www.dot.state.oh.us/map1/cntymap.HTM <-- funny names :p
16:26 < mnemoc> they sounds as lastnames
16:27 < cchamilt> they are, usually based on the surveyors involved if no indian tribes were based there. Otherwise indian names.
16:28 < cchamilt> We are in the SE - Washington. As George surveyed it before he caused the 'French-Indian War'
16:29 < cchamilt> Back then as a British soldier, he kind of sucked.
16:30 < mnemoc> what is vienna doing there?
16:30 < cchamilt> One of those situations where you take what you can get for leaders and then later it turns out pretty good and highly 'spinnable'.
16:31 < mnemoc> :)
16:31 < cchamilt> Austria is right next door... No people have small minds and name places after other places they like.
16:31 < mnemoc> *g*
16:32 < cchamilt> We are mostly german immigrants around here.
16:32 < mnemoc> ic
16:33 < cchamilt> Overflow from pennsylvania I think.
16:33 < mnemoc> (they forgot to name the river on that map)
16:33 < mnemoc> oh, athens too
16:34 < cchamilt> No its the Ohio river I believe you are looking at. It is owned by West Virginia.
16:34 < cchamilt> :)
16:35 < cchamilt> We live at in Lowell it is near Marietta
16:35 < mnemoc> cool, your river is owned by your neightbor
16:35 < cchamilt> boy my english is off today...
16:36 < mnemoc> :(
16:36 < mnemoc> lowell found
16:37 < mnemoc> rxr: it was
16:37 < cchamilt> That stuff happens. It means bridges and stuff have to be in WV's ownership I think. Also, the need to fund the coast guard for the river.
16:38 < mnemoc> rxr: why?
16:38 < mnemoc> s/rxr://
16:38 < cchamilt> They get no specific taxes though as we don't tax like that.
16:39 < rene> mnemoc: ?
16:39 < mnemoc> rene: the why? was not for you :p sorry..... but ld-globbing cause that regression
16:40 < rene> ouhm - ok - I revert it in -beta2 and will review soon for trunk
16:40 < mnemoc> i can do it if you want
16:40 < rene> oh - sure ;-)
16:40 < mnemoc> :)
16:41 < rene> do you also revert it for beta2?
16:41 < mnemoc> i was talking about beta2
16:41 < rene> ah - and not about reviewing the change ?
16:42 < mnemoc> on trunk :)
16:42 < rene> ehrm. reviewing or reverting on trunk?
16:42 < mnemoc> reviewing on trunk, reverting on beta2
16:43 < mnemoc> .oO( my english seems to be pathetic $today )o
16:44 < rene> no - your english is ok - just that your sentences have been a bit short to grep all the detalis from
16:44 < mnemoc> to be able to write good sentences is the main part of "a good english" :)
16:45 < rene> *lol*
16:45 < mnemoc> *g*
16:46 * mnemoc wonders how 'CreateSummary' will react to a revert
16:46 < rene> it will of course count the changesets, all ...
16:50 < mnemoc> rene: i'm not allowed :(
16:50 < rene> mnemoc: what?
16:50 < mnemoc> rene: you win, you revert it
16:50 < rene> you are not allowed to?
16:51 < mnemoc> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/t2/tags/2.1.0-beta2/package/base/binutils/ld-glob.patch'
16:51 < mnemoc> svn: PROPFIND of '/t2/tags/2.1.0-beta2/package/base/binutils/ld-glob.patch': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://www.exactcode.de)
16:51 < mnemoc> svn: Your commit message was left in a temporary file:
16:51 < mnemoc> svn: 'svn-commit.tmp'
16:51 < mnemoc> www o_O
16:51 < mnemoc> (kick kicks himself *again*
16:51 * mnemoc ..... aAAAAAARG!
16:51 < rene> you have full write access - for all ...
16:51 * daja77 likes to watch
16:51 < rene> you can destroy as much as I can ...
16:52 < mnemoc> rene: wrong server
16:52 < rene> daja77: ?
16:52 < mnemoc> daja77: hi!
16:52 < daja77> hi mnemoc, rxr
16:52 < rene> hi daja77
16:52 < daja77> rene: watching mnemoc kicking himself ^^
16:52 < mnemoc> :)
16:56 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5219 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/package/base/binutils/ld-glob.patch: * revert ld-globbing patch due to regressions which will be reviewed on trunk
16:58 < mnemoc> what about that sentence?
17:00 < rene> good - except the first verb would be cool to have in simple paste ..
17:00 < rene> but ... ;-)
17:00 < rene> btw. I just udpate linux26 and mplayer ...
17:01 < mnemoc> lx-header too?
17:01 < rene> no - not yet
17:01 < rene> too less cpu power and network bandswitdh to rebuild the whole system ..
17:02 < mnemoc> i'll build a minimal-pmmx full 2.6.10 now
17:02 < rene> did you already updated?
17:02 < mnemoc> (at least try)
17:02 < mnemoc> lcoally, last night
17:02 < rene> ic ...
17:02 < mnemoc> [00:17:47] B 2.6.10
17:02 < rene> you have removed the 999-radeon-backlight.patch ?
17:02 < mnemoc> [00:19:05] linux
17:03 < mnemoc> i haven't built/removed anything yet
17:03 < mnemoc> i was havving fun with beta2
17:03 < rene> teh 999 patch must be removed
17:03 < rene> but I can commit now ...
17:03 < mnemoc> feel free to do it :)
17:05 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5220 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/ (. scripts/parse-config):
17:05 < CIA-9> r10590@socomep (orig r5215): rene | 2004-12-24 14:09:08 -0300
17:05 < CIA-9> * bumped version to 2.1.0-beta3
17:05 < CIA-9> r10633@socomep (orig r5216): rene | 2004-12-25 00:07:17 -0300
17:05 < CIA-9> * promote __GLIBC__=3 to iptables during dietlibc build
17:05 < CIA-9> r10634@socomep (orig r5217): rene | 2004-12-25 00:15:06 -0300
17:05 < CIA-9> * fixed iproute2's sbin binary installation location
17:05 < mnemoc> what the fuck!
17:05 < rene> mnemoc: ?
17:05 < rene> could you please top trying to use svk?
17:05 < rene> it seems worther than submaster ...
17:06 < mnemoc> note: _never_ checkout a mirror point
17:06 < mnemoc> it commits on update o_O
17:07 * mnemoc shamed
17:07 -!- mnemoc is now known as __mnemoc
17:08 < rene> __mnemoc: what ybout skipping svk ... ?
17:08 < __mnemoc> yes
17:10 < rene> what about renaming the rtsp package to live ?
17:10 < rene> I have no idea why someone at ROCK times named it rtsp at all ...
17:11 < __mnemoc> live implements rtsp, why can rename gcc to c-compiler :)
17:13 * __mnemoc merging local-branches into working copies of plain-svn
17:15 < CIA-9> rene * r5221 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (999-radeon-backlight.patch linux26.desc): * updated linux26 (2.6.9 -> 2.6.10)
17:15 < __mnemoc> rene: is changelog finally fscked up?
17:16 < rene> __mnemoc: I need longer sentences to grep what you mean ;-)
17:16 < rene> what changelog are you talking about - and what should be fscked up?
17:16 < __mnemoc> the generated changelog you do parsing svn log
17:16 < rene> because of your svk noise ?
17:17 < __mnemoc> yes
17:17 < rene> yeah - I need to look into that - and maybe add asvk noise supressor ...
17:19 < rene> __mnemoc: so you agree to rename rtsp into live ?
17:19 < __mnemoc> yes
17:19 < rene> good ;-)
17:19 < rene> I'll do this - with general mplayer vs. live fixes on the way
17:19 < rene> and - not not copied from submaster ...
17:20 < __mnemoc> :D
17:20 < rene> s/not/no/
17:20 < __mnemoc> # time svn diff -r 5219:5220 http://svn.exactcode.de/t2
17:20 < __mnemoc> real 1m1.364s
17:20 < __mnemoc> user 0m0.680s
17:20 < __mnemoc> sys 0m0.020s
17:20 < rene> yes - I know ..
17:21 < rene> backwards diffs got strangely slow ...
17:21 < rene> I already wrote I wanna review this, soon
17:21 < rene> e.g. first update to svn 1.1 ...
17:21 < rene> and then review in details if it still persists ...
17:24 < CIA-9> rene * r5222 /trunk/package/multimedia/rtsp/rtsp.conf:
17:24 < CIA-9> * improved our already quite advanced rtsp installation to actually
17:24 < CIA-9> install the files in a layout that is a) mostly reasonable and
17:24 < CIA-9> b) recognized by mplayer
17:26 < CIA-9> rene * r5223 /trunk/package/multimedia/live/ (7 files): * rename rtsp -> live part I
17:27 < CIA-9> rene * r5224 /trunk/package/multimedia/rtsp/: * removed old rtsp - rename part II
17:28 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5225 /tags/2.1.0-beta2/: * reverted svk mistake of 5220
17:29 < CIA-9> rene * r5226 /trunk/package/multimedia/live/ (live.cache live.desc): * some post rename cleanups and took over maintenance
17:29 < __mnemoc> (/me got a bounce from politie.nl)
17:33 < CIA-9> rene * r5227 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/mplayer.conf:
17:33 < CIA-9> * removed --enable-live since it can be automatically deteacted by
17:33 < CIA-9> mplayer itself and also only works with our standard live include
17:33 < CIA-9> and library layout
17:33 < CIA-9> * removed doc installation which is not at that location in the
17:33 < CIA-9> next mplayer version anyway
17:39 < CIA-9> rene * r5228 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/ (6 files): * updated mplayer (1.0pre5try2 -> 1.0pre6)
17:47 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r5229 /trunk/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc: * updated postgresql (8.0.0rc1 -> 8.0.0rc2)
17:57 < CIA-9> rene * r5230 /trunk/package/multimedia/xine-ui/xine-ui.desc:
17:57 < CIA-9> * updated xine-ui (0.99.2 -> 0.99.3) - changed sf.net download URL
17:57 < CIA-9> to a mirror since the dl.sf.net does not work right now ...
17:58 < __mnemoc> uhm?
17:59 < __mnemoc> too new release or dl.sf.net just failing?
18:58 < rene> dl.sf.net failing
18:58 < rene> seems they changed again s.th. with their mirror stuff ...
19:24 * rene in cinema - cu
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