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--- Log opened Sun Dec 12 00:00:24 2004
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02:21 * jsaw asleep
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02:57 < mnemoc> rehi
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05:55 < rxr> moin
06:10 < rxr> [5] e17/efsd [5] gnome2/gnome-mag
06:10 < rxr> [5] e17/entrance [5] gnome2/gnopernicus
06:10 < rxr> [5] kde/kdebindings [5] gnome2/teatime
06:10 < rxr> 1011 builds total, 658 completed fine, 6 with errors.
06:15 < rxr>
http://scale2x.sourceforge.net
06:27 < CIA-9> rene * r5054 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-mag/gcc34.patch: * fixed gnome-mag after the recent update
06:36 < CIA-9> rene * r5055 /trunk/package/kde/k3b/k3b.desc: * updated k3b (0.11.17 -> 0.11.18)
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09:26 < rxr> moin again
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10:21 < rxr> hi mnemoc
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10:43 < martin> moin
10:43 < martin> rxr: there a bounces some svn-mails for me at exactcode?
10:44 < rxr> martin: what?
11:12 < rxr> == 12/12/04 11:15:55 =[5]=> Finished building package dosemu.
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11:41 < pmika> anyone awake? i'm trying to build target boot,install and rescue but it fails on binutils
11:41 < pmika> on amd64
11:44 < rxr> this might be - we have no amd64 box for development yet ...
11:45 < rxr> what is the exact error?
11:45 < rxr> do you build from inside of a 64 bit system - or some old 32 x86 system?
11:47 < daja77> there were tons of patches regarding x86_64 ...
11:47 < rxr> .. in submaster - I know ...
11:48 < rxr> but this does not mean I importet all of the stray -fPIC additions ...
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11:51 < pmika> hmm,got disconnected....
11:51 < pmika> so anyone awake?
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11:53 < rxr> yes pmika ...
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11:57 < pmika> could someone c&p possible answer to my question if there was one
12:01 < rxr> hi pmika
12:01 < rxr> yes we are awake .. just that you leave so quickly ...
12:01 < rxr> 11:44 < rxr> this might be - we have no amd64 box for development yet ...
12:01 < rxr> 11:45 < rxr> what is the exact error?
12:01 < rxr> 11:45 < rxr> do you build from inside of a 64 bit system - or some old 32 x86
12:01 < rxr> system?
12:02 < rxr> you also might consult the mailing list with detailed information and asynchron discussion
12:09 < pmika> yeah,sorry for leaving so quickly but my dsl line got some troubles.
12:10 < pmika> i'm currently running fedora 3 64bit and i want to build minimal t2 iso so i can install from it. does the bootcd target have everything that i need to get minimal system running? so i dont have to build generic,desktop targets
12:11 < pmika> it failed on binutils when checking if build env is sane. but gave an error saying that ls -t returns error, have to check again when it starts to build binutils package
13:07 < rxr> would be nice if you could post the detailed errors
13:07 < rxr> maybe even to the list for wieder audience ...
13:08 < rxr> mnemoc: jsaw: valentin: problem to solve
13:08 < rxr> our dhcp setup inherited from rocknet does not take the interface down ...
13:08 < rxr> it only starts dhcpd and kills it - but does not down the interface
13:08 < rxr> I quick hacked it to ifconfig $if down - locally ...
13:08 < rxr> should I commit to use ifconfig or ip - what do you think?
13:15 < pmika> now i get loads of error from diffrent packages but binutils error now is:Cross_CC_not_build_so_far_cc command not found in configure and you must set the env variable CC to working compiler
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14:58 < rxr> hi sparc-kly
14:59 < sparc-kly> hi :P
14:59 < sparc-kly> moin all
15:50 < mnemoc> re
15:50 < mnemoc> rxr: ip is our official command
16:00 < CIA-9> jeru * r5056 /trunk/package/perl/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
16:00 < CIA-9> * renamed ssleay-perlmod -> perl-net-ssleay
16:00 < CIA-9> * updated perl-net-ssleay (1.23 -> 1.25)
16:02 < mnemoc> .oO( we need something decent to sync with cpan )o
16:07 < CIA-9> jeru * r5057 /trunk/package/perl/perl-convert-asn1/ (. perl-convert-asn1.desc): * added perl-convert-asn1 (0.18)
16:10 < CIA-9> jeru * r5058 /trunk/package/perl/perl-authen-sasl/ (. perl-authen-sasl.desc): * added: perl-authen-sasl (version 2.08)
16:12 < CIA-9> jeru * r5059 /trunk/package/perl/perl-io-socket-ssl/ (. perl-io-socket-ssl.desc): * added: perl-io-socket-ssl (version 0.96)
16:14 < CIA-9> jeru * r5060 /trunk/package/perl/perl-net-ldap/ (. perl-net-ldap.desc): * added: perl-net-ldap (version 0.32)
16:19 < CIA-9> jeru * r5061 /trunk/package/security/openssl/openssl.desc: * updated: openssl (0.9.7d -> 0.9.7e)
16:21 < CIA-9> jeru * r5062 /trunk/package/security/cyrus-sasl2/cyrus-sasl2.desc: * updated: cyrus-sasl2 (2.1.18 -> 2.1.20)
16:25 < CIA-9> jeru * r5063 /trunk/package/printing/hpijs/hpijs.desc: * updated: hpijs (1.6 -> 1.7.1)
16:34 < rxr> cool :-)
16:34 < rxr> just that someone should review those commits ...
16:35 * mnemoc hides
16:36 < rxr> hehe - ok got that pointer
16:36 < mnemoc> :)
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16:43 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | The system development environment | GNU Auto* considered harmful
16:43 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Dec 10 03:06:40 2004]
16:43 [Users #t2]
16:43 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly]
16:43 [ CIA-9 ] [ hannes_] [ martin] [ nzg ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ]
16:43 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
16:43 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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16:49 < CIA-9> rene * r5065 /trunk/package/base/glibc/2.3.4-kd.h.patch:
16:49 < CIA-9> * fixed glibc's sys/kd.h for recents kernels and some header include
16:49 < CIA-9> order (e.g. as in dosemu)
16:50 < rxr> this fixed dosemu ;-)
16:50 < rxr> I hope it does not cause regressions ....
16:51 < mnemoc> what depends on dosemu?
16:52 < rxr> nothing depends on dosemu ...
16:52 < rxr> but I pathced glibc ...
16:57 < mnemoc> hehe
17:00 < rxr> mnemoc: take a look at my patch
17:00 < rxr> it is reduculous what I patched away ...
17:00 * rxr curious when the patch will show up in submatscher
17:01 < mnemoc> yes?
17:01 < mnemoc> who is the gateway?
17:02 < rxr> no idea - maybe just svn co on our tree looking what we do ...
17:04 < mnemoc> keeeping LISUS_TYPES undefined? why not fixing dosemu?
17:04 < mnemoc> i have to go.... back in some hours
17:04 < rxr> mnemoc: this define results in massive parts of the kernel are not evaluated
17:05 < mnemoc> oh
17:05 < rxr> this can break any C program that does incldue this - what was it gd.h or so - quite early ...
17:05 < mnemoc> keep it undef :)
17:05 < rxr> I have no idea why one does want this hack ..
17:05 < rxr> linux/types.h and asm/types.h or so include all the vital stuff including all the
17:05 < rxr> __u8
17:05 < rxr> __u16
17:05 < rxr> __u32
17:05 < rxr> ...
17:06 < rxr> try to build dosemu without the patch and see the nice error messages ... *g*
17:06 < mnemoc> Make sure the
header is not loaded. <--- i guess may ask them why
17:07 < rxr> I would say historic cruft ...
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17:29 < CIA-9> jeru * r5066 /trunk/package/network/vlan/ (multi-line-string-fix.patch vlan.desc):
17:29 < CIA-9> * update: vlan (1.7m -> 1.8)
17:29 < CIA-9> * removed obsolete patch
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18:22 < martin> http://svn.musicpd.org/ - WebSVN look good.
18:44 -!- martin [~martin@brln-d9ba1bcc.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit ["[BX] Beefcake! BEEFCAKE!"]
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18:49 < martin> re
18:50 < rxr> hi martin
18:50 < rxr> the websvn looks interesting
19:14 < CIA-9> jeru * r5067 /trunk/package/security/libfwbuilder/ (. libfwbuilder.desc): * added: libfwbuilder (Version 2.0.4)
19:14 < CIA-9> jeru * r5068 /trunk/package/security/fwbuilder/ (. fwbuilder.desc): * added: fwbuilder (Version 2.0.4)
19:14 < rxr> ;-)
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22:31 < mnemoc> re
22:36 < rxr> hi mnemoc
22:36 < mnemoc> hi rxr
22:37 < mnemoc> 32°C :\
22:37 < rxr> ouhm :-(
22:38 < rxr> arround zero here (at least outside)
22:38 * rxr new tee and them more hacking
22:40 < rxr> +3.7°C
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22:41 < mnemoc> i would like to live the whole year around 20
22:41 < rxr> yeah - /me too ...
22:42 < jsaw> re
22:42 < mnemoc> hi jsaw
22:43 < rxr> hey jsaw - the t2 channel is awaking ... ;-)
22:43 < jsaw> i'd prefer 26C over the whole year...
22:43 < jsaw> hi mnemoc, rxr!
22:43 < mnemoc> 26 is too hot
22:43 < jsaw> no for me...
22:44 < jsaw> not for me...
22:45 * jsaw is a reptile
22:48 < mnemoc> hehe
23:01 < CIA-9> jsaw * r5069 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/__i686-defined-hotfix.patch:
23:01 < CIA-9> * __i686 is defined (as 1) while optimizing for PentiumII which
23:01 < CIA-9> results in a compile time error in dietlibc-0.27/i386/PIC.h
23:01 < CIA-9> Undefing __i686 before makes dietlibc compile normally.
23:14 < jsaw> http://games.slashdot.org/games/04/12/12/147236.shtml?tid=133&tid=212
23:14 < jsaw> muahahahaha
23:20 * rxr updating a t2 from r4284 to head ...
23:25 < jsaw> rxr: tridentfb on my old laptop oopses, should I disable it in package/base/sysfiles/etc_conf_pci.txt?
23:26 < rxr> yes - although the matching code seems to have a bug - the disabled readon is still loaded on my athlon ...
23:26 < rxr> had no time to track this yet ...
23:26 < jsaw> the matching code should also detect the oops...
23:26 < rxr> wow - the svn up (mac osx) took as long as 5m45.614
23:26 < rxr> hm - ok - mine does not oopse I think
23:27 < rxr> just the output is black - at least mostloy when no corrupted artefacts show up randomly ...
23:27 < rxr> real 5m45.614s
23:27 < rxr> user 0m12.090s
23:27 < rxr> sys 0m40.020s
23:28 < rxr> ^- the huge svn up ... ;-)
23:28 < rxr> so - what about this change regarding dhcp
23:28 < rxr> --- rocknet_dhcp.sh (revision 5069)
23:28 < rxr> +++ rocknet_dhcp.sh (working copy)
23:28 < rxr> @@ -2,5 +2,6 @@
23:28 < rxr> public_dhcp() {
23:28 < rxr> addcode up 5 5 "/sbin/dhclient -q $if"
23:28 < rxr> addcode down 5 5 "killall -15 dhclient"
23:28 < rxr> + addcode down 5 6 "ip link set $if down || ifconfig $if down"
23:28 < rxr> }
23:28 < rxr> ?
23:30 < jsaw> hmm.
23:32 < jsaw> could you test if a delay would work?
23:33 < rxr> delay what?
23:33 < jsaw> sleep 1 ; ip link set $if down
23:33 < rxr> (and I can not really test, the only client running here is my iBook with osx running ...)
23:33 < rxr> sure this would work ...
23:33 < rxr> the important thing is to take the device down at all ...
23:34 < rxr> it currently is not ...
23:34 < jsaw> I somehow have a bad feeling about mixing ip and ifconfig...
23:34 < rxr> and the || part is to fallback if iproute2 is not installed
23:34 < jsaw> pcmcia does it correctly... hmm, let me look at the code
23:34 < rxr> correctly ? *g*
23:35 < rxr> this damn xcode
23:36 < rxr> I now renammed the damn bulid target to xxx._ds_ the third time - and after reopening the project it still does show up with xxx._bundle_
23:36 < rxr> annoying thing ...
23:39 < rxr> *lol* yet another bug in osx - I just had the wrong mouse cursor for several seconds not changing to the one intended for the particular region - even when moving over several windows ...
23:41 < rxr> damn - soon I open vi and edit the f*cking .xml file ...
23:42 < daja77> *gg*
23:43 * daja77 isntalled voim on osx soon
23:48 < jsaw> rxr:
23:48 < jsaw> kill -TERM $PID
23:48 < jsaw> sleep 2
23:48 < jsaw> (from pcmcia, kill dhcpcd in this case)
23:48 < rxr> kill defaults to -TERM ...
23:48 < rxr> and the interface is left up ...
23:49 < jsaw> they do /sbin/ifconfig $DEVICE down
23:49 < jsaw> afterwards
23:49 < jsaw> but I meant the "sleep 2" line
23:49 < rxr> ah ;-) And this is what I wanted to patch in ...
23:49 < rxr> ahso .. so:
23:49 < rxr> addcode down 5 6 "sleep 2 ; ip link set $if down || ifconfig $if down"
23:50 < rxr> + addcode down 5 5 "killall -TERM dhclient"
23:50 < rxr> + addcode down 5 6 "sleep 2 ; ip link set $if down || ifconfig $if down"
23:50 < rxr> damn - I wanted to paste:
23:50 < rxr> - addcode down 5 5 "killall -15 dhclient"
23:50 < rxr> + addcode down 5 5 "killall -TERM dhclient"
23:50 < rxr> + addcode down 5 6 "sleep 2 ; ip link set $if down || ifconfig $if down"
23:50 < jsaw> Probably this could work even without ifconfig
23:51 < rxr> ?
23:52 < jsaw> I meant, if the sleep is in and "ip" takes the interface down correctly, why then mix with ifconfig?
23:53 < rxr> because half of the systems do not iproute2 installed?
23:54 < rxr> this is what I'm talking about since the beginning - a fallback if ip did not work out ...
23:54 < jsaw> oki.
23:54 < jsaw> understood.
23:54 < rxr> if you are happied I could mix this type -p s.th. in ...
23:54 < rxr> and branch due to presense of tools more directly ;-)
23:54 < jsaw> no, no. I didn't get the "fallback" argument before.
23:55 < rxr> e.g. my macosx has no ip ;-)
23:55 < rxr> just a joke ...
23:55 < rxr> so - how the hell did this apple engeneers intended to make bundles renameable ...
23:55 * rxr 2/3 od the development time fighting with this dump IDE ...
23:56 < CIA-9> rene * r5070 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/rocknet_dhcp.sh: * fixed the dhcp rocknet script to take the interface down
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