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T2 IRC Log: 2004-12-05

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--- Log opened Sun Dec 05 00:00:03 2004
--- Day changed Sun Dec 05 2004
00:00 * nullslack downloading packages for the minimal+xorg build ;)
00:02 < mnemoc> :)
00:02 < mnemoc> rene: how can i add a tab on awk -F' ' '{ print $2 $1; }' between $2 and $1?
00:02 < mnemoc> rxr: how can i add a tab on awk -F' ' '{ print $2 $1; }' between $2 and $1?
00:03 < nullslack> \t?
00:04 < rxr> mnemoc: I'm not a awk guru - would read and test myself ...
00:04 < mnemoc> how, i always get syntax error :(
00:04 < mnemoc> rxr: ok
00:04 < mnemoc> nullslack: ?
00:04 < rxr> mnemoc: and with a real not a \t ?
00:04 < jsaw> $2"\t"$1
00:04 < nullslack> mnemoc, you should enclosed it in ""
00:05 < mnemoc> nullslack: awk '{ print "$2\t$1"; }' --> $2 and $1 as literals
00:05 < mnemoc> awk '{ print $2"\t"$1; }'
00:05 < mnemoc> puaj
00:05 < rxr> welcome jsaw
00:05 < mnemoc> that worked
00:06 < mnemoc> thanks jsaw :)
00:07 < mnemoc> jsaw: read what i said about pkgsel please
00:28 < jsaw> again in the lab and just stops by the computer once in while -> high lag
00:28 < jsaw> hi mnemoc, rxr, nullslack
00:29 < jsaw> mnemoc: I read it.
00:30 < jsaw> could you please write it to ml? I need more (free) time to think about it.
00:30 < mnemoc> ok :)
00:31 < jsaw> :)
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00:51 < rxr> 1010 builds total, 675 completed fine, 6 with errors.
01:24 < rxr> avision.c | 141 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
01:24 < rxr> avision.h | 1
01:24 < rxr> 2 files changed, 104 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
01:36 < rxr> syncing another set of:
01:36 < rxr> 12041 files to consider
01:40 < rxr> ouhm - also again getting a long night ...
01:40 < rxr> jsaw: you are in the lab on saturdays?
01:56 < mnemoc> re
02:02 < rxr> rehi mnemoc
02:02 < rxr> Nooooooooooo
02:02 < rxr> I forgot my tee .... :-(
02:04 < rxr> well - hacking all the conditionals into the existing C source I feel more and more how much cooler the code could have sorted by using some nice C++ classes ... ,-)
02:04 < rxr> to bad the SANE people do not wanna see C++ in SANE ....
02:06 < rxr> too even
02:17 * jsaw feels the pressure of the deadline
02:18 < rxr> jsaw: /me too - needs a firat beta MacOSX driver that does operate basically monday in one week ...
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02:18 < rxr> the driver core get's in shape for the new devices - so one week left for a colorful MacOSX graphical application (in Objective-C :-()
02:19 < jsaw> :|
02:19 < jsaw> me needed a few good pictures and a paper last week ...
02:19 < rxr> and I have to do some uni stuff in between ...
02:19 < rxr> ouhm :-\
02:20 < jsaw> well, nothing works as it's expected... it's fundamental research...
02:21 < jsaw> my "Frustrationtoleranz" (tolerance of frustration?) is huge (compared to 5 years ago) :)
02:21 < jsaw> +s
02:21 < rxr> hm 8-? - me not that experienced in the "fundamental research field" - except planable software projects ...
02:21 < jsaw> think of gsmp.
02:22 < rxr> yeah - that is pure lack of time ...
02:22 < jsaw> yep. one has the ideas, but...
02:22 < rxr> if there would be that killer Linux distribution or Development Environment I would not need to invest that much time in that area ...
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02:25 < rxr> welcome back mnemoc
02:25 < mnemoc> hi rxr
02:26 < rxr> ok - let's see what my new "virtual scan by returning previously gathered duplex scan rear data" code does in real life ...
02:27 < rxr> oh god - I just commited 150 lines - and now I have again:
02:27 < rxr> avision.c | 115 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
02:28 < rxr> ouhm - ok does not crash - but does not return the disk saved data ...
02:28 * rxr back to the drawing board ...
02:31 < rxr> hm - someone else from Hamburg just mailed me back regarding a bug discovered in my backend ...
02:31 < rxr> good to see other people are awake, too ...
02:32 < rxr> other people except us hackers ;-)
02:33 < rxr> oh - found it - I should not have started to use gotos ... *g*
02:33 < rxr> ouhm:
02:33 < rxr> $ grep goto avision.c | wc -l
02:33 < rxr> 27
02:34 < rxr> years ago there have been zero in it ... :-(
02:38 < mnemoc> i thought you could only see goto-s on lexers
02:38 < mnemoc> "goto considered harmfull", a good essay :)
02:38 < rxr> I know - I hate gotos myself ...
02:39 < rxr> just some pathes had so many conditionals that I started to use gotos for some error clenup cases
02:39 < mnemoc> f34rs
02:39 < rxr> those cases where I would use std:auto_ptr and smart objects that do the housekeeping in C++ ...
02:40 < rxr> 2002-06-30: Ren Rebe
02:40 < rxr> * more readable calibration decision (using goto ...)
02:40 < rxr> and since then more and more crept in for error case cleanup ...
02:41 < mnemoc> "suicide-objects considered harmfull" :)
02:41 < rxr> suicide?
02:41 < mnemoc> auto_ptr
02:41 < rxr> not self deleting - just house keeping in the destructor and such ...
02:41 < mnemoc> objects that commit suicide :)
02:41 < rxr> auto_ptr is just a owner control ...
02:41 < mnemoc> yes?
02:42 < rxr> auto_ptr instance;
02:42 < rxr> some code;
02:42 < rxr> }
02:42 < rxr> and whoop, deleted thru auto_ptr if no onwership was transfered by calling some other function passint the auto_ptr or so ...
02:42 < rxr> well of course:
02:42 < rxr> auto_ptr instance = new Object; ....
02:43 < rxr> the replacement for "out of scope" deletion
02:43 < mnemoc> ic
02:44 < rxr> and when you return the auto_ptr ownership is transfered to the callee ..
02:45 < rxr> the cleanup in constructor is really cool for sane error pathes where you normally need a lof of:
02:45 < rxr> if (some_ptr)
02:45 < rxr> free some_ptr;
02:45 < rxr> or :
02:45 < rxr> gogo cleanup_at_end:
02:45 < rxr> ...
02:45 < rxr> cleanup_at_end:
02:45 < rxr> free(a_lot_of_stuff); // most probably even conditionally ...
02:59 < rxr> I'm such a fool ...
03:03 < rxr> cooo!
03:03 < rxr> seems to work
03:04 < rxr> hehe - every 2nd scan is now _very_ fast due to directly streamed from temp. file ...
03:06 < rxr> avision.c | 142 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
03:15 < rxr> cool - this does work, too:
03:15 < rxr> [avision] sane_start: virtual duplex rear data potentially available.
03:15 < rxr> [avision] sane_start: virtual duplex rear data outdated due to parameter change!
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03:25 < rxr> hi kensai
03:25 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@64.237.130.173] has joined #t2
03:26 < kensai> rxr, hi
03:27 < kensai> everything going fine with t2?
03:27 < rxr> ouhm - yep, I think so ;-)
03:34 < rxr> kensai: and over there, all fine, too ?
03:36 < mnemoc> don't worry, i'll break it soon
03:36 < kensai> rxr, yeah trying to see all the mess I'm doing with t2 on debian
03:54 < rxr> damn - I wrote the driver with some change ...
03:54 < rxr> now most scans hang the scanner ... :-(
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04:08 < rxr> avision.c | 182 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------
04:08 < rxr> damn
04:08 < rxr> and somewhere in this or the last commit is a bug hidden ...
04:14 < rxr> interesting just switching back one revision seems to fix that ...
04:14 < rxr> damn my hope was to have this finished arround now ...
04:29 < rxr> Revision: 160
04:29 < rxr> ^- is ok ...
04:32 < rxr> Revision: 161 ok
04:33 < rxr> Revision: 162 ok
04:35 < rxr> Revision: 163 never worked at al
04:36 < rxr> ^- my famous hand scanner mode not supported version ;-)
04:36 < rxr> Revision: 164 ok
04:37 < rxr> found another bug in xscanimage ...
04:37 < rxr> now the scan button is not clickable anymore :-(
04:37 < rxr> damn example proof of concept application ...
04:45 < rxr> Revision: 166 seems to break it ...
04:51 < rxr> hm - wasn't there some nice (x)emacs diff mode in the past ?
04:51 < rxr> current diff-mode does not highlight the changes very well ... :-(
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05:16 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | the system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2 | C++ people around, too
05:16 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Mon Nov 29 02:10:27 2004]
05:16 [Users #t2]
05:16 [ _martin_] [ CIA-9 ] [ kensai ] [ nzg ] [ sparc-kly]
05:16 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
05:16 [ af ] [ jsaw ] [ nullslack] [ rxr_]
05:16 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
05:16 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004
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05:18 < rxr> gotca
05:18 < rxr> gotcha even
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05:44 < rxr> the final gotcha - damn hardware - hangs when not a multiple of bytes_per_line for the current setting is read .-(
06:01 < rxr> cool - and so far no regressions when using some old normal flarbed HP 7450 ....
06:01 < rxr> also with optional ADF unit ...
06:01 * rxr happy ...
06:14 < rxr> ok - wuick
06:14 < rxr> uhm
06:14 < rxr> quickly plugging the AV 610 and AV 610 CU into my iBook and see what those do ...
07:16 < rxr> hm - so silent here ...
07:17 < rxr> oops
07:17 < rxr> [avision] set_calib_data: merging dark calibration data
07:17 < rxr> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
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07:34 < rxr> n8 all
07:35 < CIA-9> rene * r4960 /trunk/package/multimedia/mplayer/mplayer.conf: * fixed mplayer skin install typo
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14:44 < _martin_> moin all
15:09 < rxr> moin
15:10 < af> moin
15:17 < rxr> hi af!
15:17 < rxr> .oO:
15:17 < rxr> -# define RADEON_IO_MCLK_DYN_ENABLE (1 << 14)
15:17 < rxr> +# define RADEON_IO_MCLK_DYN_ENABLE (1 << 15)
15:18 < mnemoc> moin shifter
15:24 < rxr> hi mnemoc .-)
15:24 < rxr> yeah - I shift my sleep cycle quite a lot recently ...
15:31 < rxr> .oO2
15:31 < rxr> t2-trunk/package/x11/xorg$ svn diff | diffstat
15:31 < rxr> radeon-ibook.patch | 886 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------------
15:31 < rxr> 1 files changed, 479 insertions(+), 407 deletions(-)
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16:07 < rxr> http://www.icube.us/Products/sharpmm20.htm
16:07 < rxr> ^- nice transmeta notebook
16:12 < rxr> only the 20GB disk is a bit tiny ...
16:20 [Users #t2]
16:20 [ _martin_] [ CIA-9 ] [ mnemoc ] [ nzg ] [ valentin]
16:20 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ mtr ] [ rxr ]
16:20 [ af ] [ jsaw ] [ nullslack] [ sparc-kly_]
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16:25 < rxr> ouhm - I injected more old mails into my IMAP server now ...
16:28 < mnemoc> what imap are u using?
16:28 < rxr> still binci ...
16:28 < rxr> 858M total
16:29 < rxr> ^- of mails in it ...
16:29 < mnemoc> what version? 1.3 or 1.2?
16:29 < rxr> the chache claims:
16:29 < rxr> Package Name and Version: bincimap 1.2.9final 2.1.0-DEV
16:29 < rxr> why do you ask?
16:29 < mnemoc> curiosity
16:30 < mnemoc> i'm using 1.2.7
16:30 < mnemoc> and i wanted to jump to 1.3 becuase it suppose to support SORT
16:30 < rxr> something I should now? about security, stability of performance issues you know and I do not?
16:30 < mnemoc> what make webmail's life easier
16:30 < mnemoc> no, just the lack of SORT
16:33 < rxr> this "Sharp Mebius MM2 (Actius MM20)" looks really nice ..
16:33 < rxr> so - /me shortly off getting some new food into the house ...
16:34 < rxr> cu soon
17:18 < rxr> brrrr. 3.4^C and dizzling ...
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23:03 < rxr> uhm - so solient :-(
23:04 < rxr> silent even
23:44 < _martin_> yes, nobody is here and write ...
23:45 < rxr> hi _martin_
23:45 < rxr> just did syp 1 and 2 ...
23:46 < rxr> I'll sent them to him now ..
23:46 < _martin_> it is winter and vary cold. horrible life ...
23:46 < rxr> btw, there seem to be a typo in his Termin file ...
23:46 < _martin_> rxr you are a fine boy :-)
23:46 < rxr> exercise 2 should be handed to him in mid. of November ... ?!?!
23:46 < rxr> btw. do I nede
23:47 < rxr> need to do a) and b)?
23:47 < rxr> or are they for the group a and b ...
23:47 < rxr> I now did all I found ...
23:47 < rxr> hope this pleases him since I'm late with 1 ... ;-)
23:47 < _martin_> We must do a and b
23:47 < rxr> ah ok ...
23:47 < _martin_> my english is so .... :-(
23:48 < rxr> lucius at tfh-berlin.de ?
23:49 < _martin_> Hmm, I don't know. But why not ..
23:49 < rxr> because the tfh is so damn unorganized and chaotic?
23:50 < rxr> most people do not even use the @tfh-berlin.de address they have ...
23:53 < _martin_> Hmm, but we have only @tfh-berlin.de this easy. Unis have some @foo.informatik.*u-berlin.de adress ..
23:54 < _martin_> do u go to 21c3 (for free?)?
23:54 < rxr> wel - sure, just that noone ueses them and introduce such chaos ...
23:54 < daja77> ugh that reminds me
23:54 < rxr> _martin_: why for free?
23:56 < _martin_> I ask Goehrlich abaout a excursion to 21C3. And he will think about it.
23:56 < rxr> _martin_: when was the termination for the syp 1 exercise? last week?
23:56 < _martin_> yes
23:57 < rxr> no. 2 is due this week?
23:58 < _martin_> I don't know.
23:58 < rxr> you did not hand him no.2 yet?
--- Log closed Mon Dec 06 00:00:19 2004