--- Log opened Sat Nov 27 00:00:58 2004 00:05 < mnemoc> what the c++ way to convert and int to string ? 00:05 < rxr> well - to be honest that sucks a bit 00:06 < rxr> with the 200x standard it is suppost to become easier ... 00:06 < rxr> you need a stringstream 00:06 < rxr> but then you can throw any object supporting << on streams into it ... ;-) 00:06 < mnemoc> sprintf then? 00:07 < rxr> std::stringstream buffer; 00:07 < rxr> buffer << i; 00:07 < rxr> you get a std::string using buffer.str() IIRC 00:07 < mnemoc> what header? ? 00:07 < rxr> strstream 00:07 < rxr> o 00:07 < rxr> no 00:07 < rxr> sstream 00:07 < mnemoc> ok 00:08 < rxr> this is quite nice code - shows the other direction: 00:08 < rxr> std::ifstream statfile (statfilename.c_str()); 00:08 < rxr> std::string line; 00:08 < rxr> std::string tag; 00:08 < rxr> while (std::getline (statfile, line) ) { 00:08 < rxr> std::stringstream streamline (line); 00:08 < rxr> streamline >> tag; 00:08 < rxr> if (tag == "cpu") { 00:08 < rxr> streamline >> user >> nice >> system >> idle; 00:08 < rxr> break; 00:08 < rxr> } 00:08 < rxr> } 00:09 < mnemoc> o_O 00:10 < rxr> why .oO ? 00:11 < mnemoc> it is weird 00:15 < rxr> why? 00:16 < rxr> the string stream is "just an interface converter" 00:16 < rxr> and I find it quite cool to reuse all the other parts so stream on strings ... 00:18 < mnemoc> it's cool but also weird for a asm/C mind like mine 00:21 < rxr> it is cool that you do C++ right now - not only do you train me a bit again - but you also get some knowledge for the time we really convert T2 into C++ ;-) 00:21 < rxr> so - damn installed eagle under MacOSX (running virtual in MOL) - and now it needs X libraries I do not have 00:21 < mnemoc> hehe 00:22 < rxr> I hate such never ending install orgies .. 00:23 < rxr> at least I get used to Max in Linux for my commerical work do be done 00:24 < mnemoc> brb 00:38 < CIA-9> rene * r4859 /trunk/package/xfce4/gtk-xfce-engine2/gtk-xfce-engine2.desc: 00:38 < CIA-9> * updated gtk-xfce-engine2 (2.1.9 -> 2.1.10) - overlooked between the 00:38 < CIA-9> other xfce packages 00:39 < rxr> hm - apple x packag download slow as usual ... 01:14 < rxr> hm - iBook load: load average: 4.34, 3.90, 3.61 01:17 < rxr> running to big Emerge jobs and macosx ... 01:19 < rxr> hm - one moment 01:20 < rxr> cool - when eage is an X11 app - I can run it in the virtual machine as use my native X.org T2 X to display it thru the virtual network device!!! 01:28 < rxr> coo - is that crazzy ... 01:31 < rxr> what the fuck? 01:31 < rxr> the light edition of eagle can not insert a simple 40pin Atlmel chip ?!?! 01:34 < rxr> Light 01:34 < rxr> The Light edition has the following limitations: 01:34 < rxr> board area limited to 100x80mm (4x3.2inch), which corresponds to half of a Eurocard 01:34 < rxr> only two routing layers (Top and Bottom) 01:34 < rxr> a schematic can consist of only one single sheet 01:34 < rxr> If you receive an error message like 01:34 < rxr> The Light edition of EAGLE can't perform the requested action! 01:34 < rxr> this means that you are attempting to do something that would violate the limitations that apply to the EAGLE edition in use, like for example placing an element outside of the allowed area. 01:34 < rxr> hm 01:39 < rxr> hm - eagle from macosx to my X.org has off-by-one drawing errors ... :-( 01:49 < mnemoc> *yawn* 01:53 < rxr> eagly also get's on my nerves 01:53 < rxr> I found out in which area the damn programs wants the parts in the free version 01:53 < rxr> but when the schematic view is open - it does not let me place new parts in the board view ... 01:54 < rxr> always errors "Can not backannontate operation. Due this in schematic" or so ... 01:59 < rxr> hm - i'm very unimpressed from eagle 02:00 < rxr> I expected an professional program - but instead it is crap 02:00 < rxr> it is that ugly it could be a '92 crappy native hack X11 program like pcb ... 02:03 < rxr> damn - do I need to prgramm all myself ? 02:04 < rxr> how can normally expesive software or even other open source crap be that stupid shit f*ck and so on ... 02:04 < rxr> if this continous this way I draw the schematic and board layout by hand ... 02:04 < rxr> in the time I wasted with damn crap I drew 2 board in autocad years ago - unbelievable 02:05 < rxr> guess even in inkscape or gimp I would be faster than with this crap 02:08 < rxr> what?!?!? 02:08 < rxr> I edit in the board layout 02:08 < rxr> and now I switch back to the schematic and it tells me: 02:09 < rxr> "Board and schematic are not consistent! 02:09 < rxr> No forward-/backannotation will be performed! 02:09 < rxr> Use ERC command to get a detailed error report." 02:09 < rxr> super - this is s.th. I would pay hundreds of EUR for because it supports me in my work ... 02:10 < rxr> whaH! 02:10 < rxr> wah! even - tons of errors the wire overlaps pins! 02:10 < rxr> wow - the shit fucking autorouter has placed them there alone ... 02:10 < rxr> guess - what - I'll do with this crap ... 02:11 < rxr> WARNING: Sheet 1/1, Net N$3: wire overlaps pin at (0.5 2.7) 02:11 < rxr> WARNING: Sheet 1/1, Net N$3: wire overlaps pin at (0.6 2.7) 02:11 < rxr> ... 02:11 < rxr> Elements not found in schematic: 02:11 < rxr> E$1 02:11 < rxr> ERROR: Board and schematic are not consistent! 02:11 < rxr> 5 errors 02:11 < rxr> 35 warnings 02:11 < rxr> I love this tool 02:11 < rxr> I immediately sign to pay XXX EUR for the profressional version ;-)!!!! 02:11 < rxr> this tool is great - a big help - yeah - I go for it ... 02:16 < rxr> I now setup to use one layer - not two - one 02:17 < rxr> and the shit tool still spreads the routed wires on two layers 02:17 < rxr> .oO(why is my TODO so long - why is all the software so shity ...) 02:22 < rxr> aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhh 02:22 < rxr> and now it has undo - and when I click on auto-route I loose the whole undo history ... 02:22 < rxr> do I have to comment this app further? 02:23 < rxr> I can not believe companies invest cents into it ... 02:26 -!- _martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba0390.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:26 < rxr> this tool is that dump ... 02:27 < rxr> I need to quickly gather a T2 community so I can start coding fun stuff again 02:27 < rxr> like a rocking studio application for Linux as well as a real CAD application (as like AutoCAD including PCB layouting support) ... 02:28 < rxr> ok - slowly I get used to this crappy beat - e.g. know all the bugs ... 02:33 < rxr> ok - bin im bett ... 02:35 < rxr> xfce update built without error on my iBook ... 02:40 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/rene/mac-eagle-t2-xorg.png 03:35 -!- mtross [~michael@H900c.h.pppool.de] has joined #t2 03:40 -!- _martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba1e94.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 03:56 -!- mtr [~michael@H8a96.h.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:59 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has joined #t2 05:52 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:57 < rxr> moin 10:09 < CIA-9> rene * r4860 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/parse-config-0: 10:09 < CIA-9> * fixed sysvinit/parse-config-0 for the case we have no init in the 10:09 < CIA-9> flists (due to an old ROCK bug) by only assigning the detected 10:09 < CIA-9> value if present, as well as also defaulting to sysvinit for stage-9 10:09 < CIA-9> builds if none has been set in the Config so far 10:34 < rxr> 2.7G download 10:37 -!- mtross is now known as mtr 10:38 < mtr> hi rxr 10:38 < rxr> moin mtr ;-) 10:39 < mtr> there are some download probs with evolution 10:39 < mtr> Host fgo-temp.acc.umu.se not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) 10:39 < mtr> i changed the dl location to gnome.org, patch follows 10:39 < rxr> yep - the evolution files are ones I miss on the mirror ;-) 10:40 < rxr> nice - can not await to have them on the master site ;-)( 10:40 < rxr> ) only ,-) 10:40 < mtr> hicolor-icon-theme has a chksum error, hmm, will take look at it 10:41 < rxr> yep - see this, too ;-) 10:41 < rxr> files not on the master mirror: 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/e/evolution-data-server-1.0.2.tar.bz2 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/e/evolution-webcal-2.0.1.tar.bz2 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/e/evolution-2.0.2.tar.bz2 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/g/gal-2.2.3.tar.bz2 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/g/gftp-2.0.17.tar.bz2 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/g/gstreamer-0.8.7.tar.bz2 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/h/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.bz2 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/T/Teatime-2.4.tar.bz2 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/d/dvgrab-1.6.tar.bz2 10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/l/live.2004.10.11.tar.bz2 10:43 < mtr> yep, these have unavailable original URLs 10:46 < rxr> I now tuned the master mirror cron job a bit more 10:51 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.211.224.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 10:51 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | the system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2 10:51 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Sun Nov 7 16:41:27 2004] 10:51 [Users #t2] 10:51 [ _martin_] [ Corlis] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 10:51 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ mtr ] [ rxr_ ] 10:51 [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ praenti] [ sparc-kly] 10:51 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 10:51 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 10:51 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 11 secs 10:52 < rxr_> obsolete files not longer used in the svn:HEAD tree will be removed after a quarter year 10:53 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.245.229.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:53 -!- You're now known as rxr 10:54 < Corlis> Is there any "distro" out there that used t2? 10:54 < rxr> well - our own? ;-) 10:54 < Corlis> well, besides that one.... 10:55 < rxr> at ROCK times I already did quite some industriy parter PR - and e.g. did a custom embedded distribution for Compact PCI Motorola telecomunication systems 10:55 < rxr> as well as that at least ROCK is even used at German ISPs and such 10:55 < rxr> of course the major distributions all use their own cooked stuff 10:55 < Corlis> sure 10:55 < rxr> so T2 will for now stay as custom distribution for now 10:56 < Corlis> Die Bezeichnung "Meta-Distro" passt halt doch am besten 10:56 < Corlis> oops 10:56 < Corlis> Naming it "Meta-Distro" fits perfectly, i guess 10:57 < Corlis> I'll prolly use it to create some installation cd's for a ltsp-cluster-system... might be very interesting for a few projects next year 10:57 < rxr> later the hope is that lice-cd creators, as well as all the other special tiny test present xyz use it 10:58 < rxr> as well as more embedded products ... 10:59 < rxr> I do not like the meta-distributino term that much - since in fact it is not just one distribution style you get e.g. with gentoo, but it can fature an custom init style, path layout, or just consist of a custom application with a kernel for embedded use 11:00 < rxr> for that I prefer the term System Development Environment - modelled after the Itegrated Development Environment known for ordinary programming languages 11:01 < Corlis> that's exactly what i like about it... the abstraction of applications and the ability as "distro"-maker, or System Developer, to concentrate on the handling of what the final product will look like, without the need to refound the tire 11:01 < Corlis> urm, reenvent :P 11:01 < Corlis> invent? hrmpf 11:02 < Corlis> It's saturdays... 11:02 < CIA-9> rene * r4861 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 11:02 < CIA-9> Michael Tross : 11:02 < CIA-9> * fixed evolution download URLs by switching to the official GNOME 11:02 < CIA-9> server 11:02 < rxr> ;-) 11:03 < rxr> yes - and the abstraction and least as possible hardcoded is exact what w 11:03 < rxr> uhm - it's saturdays... ;-) 11:03 < Corlis> heh 11:03 < rxr> why we started ROCK back in 1998 - and (had to) fork T2 this year ;-) 11:03 < rxr> my backspace does not like me today ... 11:04 < Corlis> my fingers don't like my keyboard as well... 11:05 < Corlis> I've been looking through many distro's this year, trying to find something elegant to use for the ltsp+cluster-thingie i am thinking about, thus looking end experiencing many different views about what linux is 11:06 < Corlis> worst thing i had to see is those somewhat even for my understanding Uber-Geeks, that were so non-openminded, that i wouldn't have wondered when they started answering questions using only 0 and 1 11:07 < Corlis> 00100101110110 11:07 < rxr> hehe 11:07 < Corlis> It's mostly so far away from what i as an it-consultant would like to have as a hrm... lets say toolset 11:08 < Corlis> and, heck, i don't need 20 different word-look-a-likes, too :P 11:09 < rxr> no, of course not - not to mention that only some have been functional I guess :-/ 11:10 < mtr> try downloading hicolor-icon-theme from freedesktop.org, and have fun with their wiki: 11:10 < mtr> http://freedesktop.org/Software/icon-theme/releases/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.gz 11:10 < Corlis> but with t2, it's not a 10.000 piece-puzzle, it's a piece of paper, some ready brushes, a selection of colors, and i can start painting... 11:11 < rxr> I hope it satisfies your needs ;-) and see you join the community ;-) 11:12 < Corlis> it already satisfies my needs :P Well, still alot to do so i can build my version, tho... 11:12 < rxr> oh my - I should stop reading heise.de 11:12 < rxr> "Naja erlaubt sind für WLAN &Bluetooth imho 1Watt Sendeleistung." 11:12 < rxr> ;-) 11:12 < Corlis> 1 Watt? urm... 11:13 < rxr> yeah big smile ;-) 11:13 < rxr> Corlis: how have you discovered t2? 11:13 < Corlis> for what would i need a wlan-router if i had to put that thing 10cm away from my comp... 11:14 < Corlis> google, by accident tho :P 11:14 < Corlis> was seeking for: "distribution based on rock" 11:14 < rxr> ;-) 11:14 < Corlis> just to see what people did with it 11:14 < Corlis> then i landed on www.rocklinux-consulting.de 11:15 < Corlis> and that's it :P 11:15 < rxr> ic ;-) 11:15 < Corlis> I still wonder why there's no entry in distrowatch.com, or you think that's too early? 11:16 < rxr> no - I already submitted it two times - so far no reaction ... 11:17 < Corlis> Hrm. sad. 11:17 < Corlis> Oh, well, gotta run, have to pick up my parents... cya guys on monday 11:18 -!- Corlis [~wehrlin@p3E9E6911.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 11:21 < rxr> cu Corlis ... 11:21 < rxr> so - resent the distrowatch submission 11:28 < mtr> rxr: got the icon theme from a slackware mirror 11:28 < mtr> but t2 should keep the freedesktop.org site ? 11:29 < rxr> ah - yes 11:29 < rxr> freedesktop.org was hacked ... 11:30 < rxr> could you paste the url? I would inject them into the master mirror then ... 11:31 < mtr> http://www.slackware.at/data/slackware-current/source/gnome/hicolor-icon-theme/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.gz 11:31 < rxr> cksum-test (bzip2): download/mirror/h/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.bz2 11:31 < rxr> ok - thanks 11:31 < rxr> soon the the slave mirrors ... 11:39 < CIA-9> rene * r4862 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (gftp/gftp.desc teatime/teatime.desc): 11:39 < CIA-9> Michael Tross : 11:39 < CIA-9> * updated gftp (2.0.17 -> 2.0.18rc1) 11:39 < CIA-9> * updated teatime (2.4 -> 2.4.1) 11:50 < rxr> somehting is broken on the main gnome server 11:50 < rxr> any other server in the work works fine on the exactcode.de server 11:50 < rxr> just the gnome one does stalle any download every 100 kB ... 11:51 < mtr> hmm, i've downloaded evolution pkgs just before sending the patch 11:53 < rxr> strange 11:53 < rxr> I had the same problem with other gnome files yesterday .... 11:53 < rxr> I pulled the remaining evolution-2.0.2.tar.bz2 from another gnome mirror ... 11:57 < mtr> gnome.org is doing some automatic mirror redirectrion, right? 11:58 * mtr downloaded from ftp.acc.umu.se :) 12:00 < CIA-9> rene * r4863 /trunk/package/multimedia/rtsp/rtsp.desc: * updated rtsp (2004.10.11 -> 2004.11.26) - original file vanished 12:00 < rxr> manually using "mirror.aarnet.edu.au" worked here 12:00 < rxr> no idea what the default redirect gave me 12:04 < rxr> ok - all files on thy master server ... 12:04 < mtr> did you get gal-2.2.3, too? 12:06 < rxr> seems so 12:07 < rxr> # ./scripts/Download -check gal 12:07 < rxr> cksum-test (bzip2): download/mirror/g/gal-2.2.3.tar.bz2 12:07 < mtr> yep, then i will restart my desktop build ... 12:07 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1035597 Nov 23 11:45 download/mirror/g/gal-0.24.tar.bz2 12:07 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1161166 Nov 27 11:42 download/mirror/g/gal-2.2.3.tar.bz2 12:07 < rxr> mom 12:07 < rxr> gstreamer update under testing ;-) 12:08 < rxr> hm - might take some time - I just commit it ... 12:10 < CIA-9> rene * r4864 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 12:10 < CIA-9> * updated gst-plugins (0.8.5 -> 0.8.6) and gst-editor (0.7.0 -> 0.8.0) 12:10 < CIA-9> * migrated those and gstreamer to the new official download location 12:11 < mtr> are you in the mood of a uclibc patch? 12:11 < rxr> distrowatch response: 12:11 < rxr> I did receive your message and have added your distribution to the waiting 12:11 < rxr> list. I've been busy building myself a new machine (a nice AMD64 box), so I 12:11 < rxr> didn't have time to reply, but rest assured that I have read it. Please let 12:11 < rxr> me know when you have a release so that I can take a closer look. 12:11 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm - I better go showering and breakfasting then ;-) 12:12 < mtr> hmm, mnemoc then? 12:12 < rxr> just send to the list then ;-) 12:12 < rxr> and I hope mnemoc reads it before I'm back *g* ;-) 12:13 < mtr> there is still one issue open, regarding the fl_wrapper.so 12:15 < mtr> the author of fl_wrapper.c has implemented two ways of resolving and binding, selected by #define DLOPEN_LIBC 12:15 < mtr> the default is to use libc.so.6 12:16 < mtr> which fails with uclibc, and therefore Build-Pkg cannot chroot properly 12:17 < mtr> if switching to the second method, everything builds fine 12:17 < rxr> good to know ;-) 12:17 < mtr> one exception: i am missing the .init files in the resulting pkgs :-( 12:17 * rxr showering and then breakfast 12:18 < mtr> sending it to the list 12:22 < rxr> == 11/27/04 12:15:59 =[9]=> Finished building package gst-editor. 12:23 < rxr> mtr: dvgrab does checksum error here ... 12:25 < rxr> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/d/dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz.cksum-err (195312504) 12:27 < mtr> CkSum is still 1053417475, just changed in the download URL /20/ -> /37/ 12:27 < rxr> I now did: 12:27 < rxr> -[D] 1053417475 dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz http://kino.schirmacher.de/filemanager/download/20/ 12:27 < rxr> +[D] 195312504 dvgrab-1.6-2.tar.gz !http://kino.schirmacher.de/filemanager/download/37/dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz 12:28 < mtr> hmm, ??? 12:29 < mtr> I did: -[D] 1053417475 dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz http://kino.schirmacher.de/filemanager/download/20/ 12:29 < mtr> +[D] 1053417475 dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz http://kino.schirmacher.de/filemanager/download/37/ 12:29 < mtr> 12:31 < rxr> the file I get from that site has a different checksum 12:31 < rxr> 195312504 12:32 < mtr> oh yes, i have dvgrab-1.6.tar.bz2, but there is 1.5 in there, ohh my ... 12:39 * mtr off now, cu later 12:44 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 12:44 < rxr> cu mtr 12:44 < rxr> hi Minto 12:44 < Minto> hi rxr 12:57 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4865 /trunk/package/office/multisync/ (multisync.conf multisync.desc): 12:57 < CIA-9> * update multisync (0.81 -> 0.82) 12:57 < CIA-9> * disable evolution plugin (not yet read for evo 2.0) 12:58 < rxr> == 11/27/04 12:49:08 =[9]=> Finished building package gst-plugins. 13:07 < CIA-9> rene * r4866 /trunk/package/multimedia/transcode/ (gcc34.patch transcode.desc): 13:07 < CIA-9> Michael Tross and Rene Rebe: 13:07 < CIA-9> * updated transcode (0.6.12 -> 0.6.14) 13:24 < rxr> == 11/27/04 13:19:23 =[9]=> Finished building package transcode. 15:44 < mnemoc> Minto=Michael Tross ? 15:44 < Minto> nope 15:44 < mnemoc> :\ 15:47 < Minto> Minto = Minto van der Sluis 15:48 < mnemoc> Hi Minto van der Sluis 15:48 < Minto> Hi mnemoc 15:48 -!- uni [~uni@pD95D07C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 15:48 < Minto> or should I say Alejandro Mery? 15:48 < uni> hi 15:49 < mnemoc> mnemoc :p 15:49 < Minto> Hi Uni 15:49 < mnemoc> hi uni 15:49 -!- uni is now known as freedy 15:49 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has joined #t2 15:58 < freedy> works linux with nforce3 raid or sil3114 raid ? 16:51 < valentin> i guess yes 16:51 < valentin> hi 16:51 < valentin> hm - however - maybe not the pseudo software raid ... 16:52 < valentin> mnemoc: you are looking for mtr :-) 16:52 < mnemoc> valentin: thanks :) 16:59 -!- uni_ [~uni@pD95D0108.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 17:13 -!- uni_ is now known as freedi 17:17 -!- freedy [~uni@pD95D07C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:49 -!- kensai [~kensai@64.237.129.108] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:52 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4867 /trunk/package/python/pil/ ( pil.conf pil.desc): 17:52 < CIA-9> * add "Python Imaging Library" 1.1.4 17:52 < CIA-9> (compiles but untested, see skencil) 17:53 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4868 /trunk/package/graphic/skencil/ ( skencil.conf skencil.desc): 17:53 < CIA-9> * add package skencil 0.6.16 17:53 < CIA-9> (compiles but untested, depends on pil) 17:56 < jsaw> re (for a couple of secs) 17:56 < jsaw> ping mnemoc 17:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: please check if skencil works for you... 17:58 < jsaw> <- gone again 18:07 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:25 -!- mnemoc_ [~amery@200.75.27.36] has joined #t2 18:32 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 18:32 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.37] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:32 -!- mnemoc_ is now known as mnemoc 19:35 -!- Minto [~chatzilla@82-217-66-7.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:56 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:06 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 20:26 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:01 < mnemoc> jsaw: when i get back home i'll try to emerge skencil 21:27 -!- CIA-9 [~CIA@to.je.spocco.com] has joined #t2 21:32 -!- freedi [~uni@pD95D0108.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:33 < mtr> hi mnemoc 21:33 < mnemoc> hi mtr 21:34 < mtr> did you took a look at this uclibc thing? 21:34 < mnemoc> i overlooked it 21:35 < mnemoc> i'm not sure about using find to hunt config.sub files 21:35 < mnemoc> btw, it's great to see someone continuing that work, i haven't got time to do it 21:36 < mtr> i added the find-all-config.sub's for apache, it has many of them 21:37 < mnemoc> and nmap 21:37 < mnemoc> ok 21:37 < mnemoc> :) 21:38 < mtr> yes, most work was already done by you, i just collected a current patch set for binutils and gcc 21:38 < mnemoc> i have no idea how to fix properly the conflict with fl_wrapper 21:39 < mnemoc> i think we should build another wrapper for stages 2+ against uclibc too 21:40 < mnemoc> comments? 21:41 < mtr> to have a separate fl_wrapper_uclibc.c seems a bit redundant 21:41 < mnemoc> fl_wrapper_uclibc.so 21:41 < mnemoc> from the same source 21:42 < mnemoc> uhm... but where to preload it... uhm 21:42 < mtr> Build-Pkg exports the LD_PRELOAD definition 21:43 < mnemoc> before entering chroot... or after? 21:43 < mtr> before 21:45 < mtr> sorry, i was wrong, it is just after chroot'ing 21:46 < mnemoc> then we can have a tools-native/lib/fl_wrapper.so against glibc and tools-cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so against uclibc ;) 21:46 * mnemoc reading source 21:49 < mnemoc> where is jsaw when i need him? :( 21:50 < mtr> i did only build uclibc, so glibc binding is only required for stage-0/1 in tools.cross ? 21:53 < mnemoc> i was wrong about toolsdir's names 21:53 < mnemoc> scripts/parse-config:65 21:55 < mnemoc> i thought with a if [ "$toolsdir" == "something" ]; then build_with_uclibc; else build_with_glibc; fi we could solve it 21:55 < mnemoc> scripts/Build-Tools:241 21:57 < mnemoc> uhm... /me wonders how to hack fl_wrapper.so build in a consistent way for uclibc and non-uclibc 2+ stages 21:59 < mtr> is it too much overhead to test ROCKCFG_PKG_UCLIBC_USEIT each time when building the wrapper? 21:59 < mtr> most people would never use it ... 22:00 < mnemoc> Build-Tools is only run twice 22:01 < mtr> we could add to "Build-Tools", line 241: UCLIBC_USEIT and the stagelevel 22:01 < mtr> and add appropriate switches to fl_wrapper.c 22:03 < mnemoc> try it :) 22:03 < mnemoc> if it work for uclibc, non-uclibc and cross-builds i think it's welcomed :) 22:05 < mtr> yep, i will try it 22:06 < mtr> with cross-builds you mean building stage 0/1, and then for stage 2+ compiling on the target host? 22:06 < mnemoc> do you want me to apply the rest of your patch or you will send the complete thing again? 22:07 < mnemoc> cross-builds: try to build for sparc, with cross-build enabled on Config :) 22:08 < mtr> you could apply the uclibc-related patches, the wrapper should then be changed later 22:08 < mnemoc> ok 22:13 < mtr> thanks, mnemoc 22:13 < mtr> i will do the wrapper changes when my desktop build has finished ... 22:18 < rxr> moin 22:19 < mtr> moin rxr 22:22 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4869 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/ (26 files in 2 dirs): 22:22 < CIA-9> Michael Tross 22:22 < CIA-9> * add patches needed to continue uclibc build after entering chroot 22:22 < CIA-9> * updates uclibc (0.9.26 -> 0.9.27-20041106) 22:23 < mnemoc> moin rxr 22:24 < rxr> hi mnemoc and mtr 22:25 < mnemoc> rxr: read last 30 minutes please 22:26 < rxr> yep - already did ;-) 22:26 < rxr> I would need to reread the tool related sources, too 22:28 < rxr> cool - the open graphic card project continues to work: 22:28 < rxr> http://open-graphics.duskglow.com/openspec.pdf 22:32 < rxr> damn - I really have no clue how gentoo got into this project: 22:32 < rxr> http://www.pegasosppc.com/odw.php 22:33 < rxr> I mailed them long before gentoo hyped about possible (ROCK at that time) support and never got any response ... :-( 22:34 < mnemoc> gentoo is far more known than rock 22:35 < rxr> at that time it was not - 22:36 < rxr> haha: 22:36 < rxr> "After months of hard work the Gentoo Foundation are proud to bring you Gentoo 2004.3. 2004.3 provides several new features, such a much improved genkernel (for automatically building a working kernel) and cascading profiles." 23:02 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:03 -!- praenti [~praenti@mail.obster.org] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Sun Nov 28 00:00:13 2004