--- Log opened Sat Nov 27 00:00:58 2004
00:05 < mnemoc> what the c++ way to convert and int to string ?
00:05 < rxr> well - to be honest that sucks a bit
00:06 < rxr> with the 200x standard it is suppost to become easier ...
00:06 < rxr> you need a stringstream
00:06 < rxr> but then you can throw any object supporting << on streams into it ... ;-)
00:06 < mnemoc> sprintf then?
00:07 < rxr> std::stringstream buffer;
00:07 < rxr> buffer << i;
00:07 < rxr> you get a std::string using buffer.str() IIRC
00:07 < mnemoc> what header? ?
00:07 < rxr> strstream
00:07 < rxr> o
00:07 < rxr> no
00:07 < rxr> sstream
00:07 < mnemoc> ok
00:08 < rxr> this is quite nice code - shows the other direction:
00:08 < rxr> std::ifstream statfile (statfilename.c_str());
00:08 < rxr> std::string line;
00:08 < rxr> std::string tag;
00:08 < rxr> while (std::getline (statfile, line) ) {
00:08 < rxr> std::stringstream streamline (line);
00:08 < rxr> streamline >> tag;
00:08 < rxr> if (tag == "cpu") {
00:08 < rxr> streamline >> user >> nice >> system >> idle;
00:08 < rxr> break;
00:08 < rxr> }
00:08 < rxr> }
00:09 < mnemoc> o_O
00:10 < rxr> why .oO ?
00:11 < mnemoc> it is weird
00:15 < rxr> why?
00:16 < rxr> the string stream is "just an interface converter"
00:16 < rxr> and I find it quite cool to reuse all the other parts so stream on strings ...
00:18 < mnemoc> it's cool but also weird for a asm/C mind like mine
00:21 < rxr> it is cool that you do C++ right now - not only do you train me a bit again - but you also get some knowledge for the time we really convert T2 into C++ ;-)
00:21 < rxr> so - damn installed eagle under MacOSX (running virtual in MOL) - and now it needs X libraries I do not have
00:21 < mnemoc> hehe
00:22 < rxr> I hate such never ending install orgies ..
00:23 < rxr> at least I get used to Max in Linux for my commerical work do be done
00:24 < mnemoc> brb
00:38 < CIA-9> rene * r4859 /trunk/package/xfce4/gtk-xfce-engine2/gtk-xfce-engine2.desc:
00:38 < CIA-9> * updated gtk-xfce-engine2 (2.1.9 -> 2.1.10) - overlooked between the
00:38 < CIA-9> other xfce packages
00:39 < rxr> hm - apple x packag download slow as usual ...
01:14 < rxr> hm - iBook load: load average: 4.34, 3.90, 3.61
01:17 < rxr> running to big Emerge jobs and macosx ...
01:19 < rxr> hm - one moment
01:20 < rxr> cool - when eage is an X11 app - I can run it in the virtual machine as use my native X.org T2 X to display it thru the virtual network device!!!
01:28 < rxr> coo - is that crazzy ...
01:31 < rxr> what the fuck?
01:31 < rxr> the light edition of eagle can not insert a simple 40pin Atlmel chip ?!?!
01:34 < rxr> Light
01:34 < rxr> The Light edition has the following limitations:
01:34 < rxr> board area limited to 100x80mm (4x3.2inch), which corresponds to half of a Eurocard
01:34 < rxr> only two routing layers (Top and Bottom)
01:34 < rxr> a schematic can consist of only one single sheet
01:34 < rxr> If you receive an error message like
01:34 < rxr> The Light edition of EAGLE can't perform the requested action!
01:34 < rxr> this means that you are attempting to do something that would violate the limitations that apply to the EAGLE edition in use, like for example placing an element outside of the allowed area.
01:34 < rxr> hm
01:39 < rxr> hm - eagle from macosx to my X.org has off-by-one drawing errors ... :-(
01:49 < mnemoc> *yawn*
01:53 < rxr> eagly also get's on my nerves
01:53 < rxr> I found out in which area the damn programs wants the parts in the free version
01:53 < rxr> but when the schematic view is open - it does not let me place new parts in the board view ...
01:54 < rxr> always errors "Can not backannontate operation. Due this in schematic" or so ...
01:59 < rxr> hm - i'm very unimpressed from eagle
02:00 < rxr> I expected an professional program - but instead it is crap
02:00 < rxr> it is that ugly it could be a '92 crappy native hack X11 program like pcb ...
02:03 < rxr> damn - do I need to prgramm all myself ?
02:04 < rxr> how can normally expesive software or even other open source crap be that stupid shit f*ck and so on ...
02:04 < rxr> if this continous this way I draw the schematic and board layout by hand ...
02:04 < rxr> in the time I wasted with damn crap I drew 2 board in autocad years ago - unbelievable
02:05 < rxr> guess even in inkscape or gimp I would be faster than with this crap
02:08 < rxr> what?!?!?
02:08 < rxr> I edit in the board layout
02:08 < rxr> and now I switch back to the schematic and it tells me:
02:09 < rxr> "Board and schematic are not consistent!
02:09 < rxr> No forward-/backannotation will be performed!
02:09 < rxr> Use ERC command to get a detailed error report."
02:09 < rxr> super - this is s.th. I would pay hundreds of EUR for because it supports me in my work ...
02:10 < rxr> whaH!
02:10 < rxr> wah! even - tons of errors the wire overlaps pins!
02:10 < rxr> wow - the shit fucking autorouter has placed them there alone ...
02:10 < rxr> guess - what - I'll do with this crap ...
02:11 < rxr> WARNING: Sheet 1/1, Net N$3: wire overlaps pin at (0.5 2.7)
02:11 < rxr> WARNING: Sheet 1/1, Net N$3: wire overlaps pin at (0.6 2.7)
02:11 < rxr> ...
02:11 < rxr> Elements not found in schematic:
02:11 < rxr> E$1
02:11 < rxr> ERROR: Board and schematic are not consistent!
02:11 < rxr> 5 errors
02:11 < rxr> 35 warnings
02:11 < rxr> I love this tool
02:11 < rxr> I immediately sign to pay XXX EUR for the profressional version ;-)!!!!
02:11 < rxr> this tool is great - a big help - yeah - I go for it ...
02:16 < rxr> I now setup to use one layer - not two - one
02:17 < rxr> and the shit tool still spreads the routed wires on two layers
02:17 < rxr> .oO(why is my TODO so long - why is all the software so shity ...)
02:22 < rxr> aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhh
02:22 < rxr> and now it has undo - and when I click on auto-route I loose the whole undo history ...
02:22 < rxr> do I have to comment this app further?
02:23 < rxr> I can not believe companies invest cents into it ...
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02:26 < rxr> this tool is that dump ...
02:27 < rxr> I need to quickly gather a T2 community so I can start coding fun stuff again
02:27 < rxr> like a rocking studio application for Linux as well as a real CAD application (as like AutoCAD including PCB layouting support) ...
02:28 < rxr> ok - slowly I get used to this crappy beat - e.g. know all the bugs ...
02:33 < rxr> ok - bin im bett ...
02:35 < rxr> xfce update built without error on my iBook ...
02:40 < rxr> http://exactcode.de/rene/mac-eagle-t2-xorg.png
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09:57 < rxr> moin
10:09 < CIA-9> rene * r4860 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/parse-config-0:
10:09 < CIA-9> * fixed sysvinit/parse-config-0 for the case we have no init in the
10:09 < CIA-9> flists (due to an old ROCK bug) by only assigning the detected
10:09 < CIA-9> value if present, as well as also defaulting to sysvinit for stage-9
10:09 < CIA-9> builds if none has been set in the Config so far
10:34 < rxr> 2.7G download
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10:38 < mtr> hi rxr
10:38 < rxr> moin mtr ;-)
10:39 < mtr> there are some download probs with evolution
10:39 < mtr> Host fgo-temp.acc.umu.se not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
10:39 < mtr> i changed the dl location to gnome.org, patch follows
10:39 < rxr> yep - the evolution files are ones I miss on the mirror ;-)
10:40 < rxr> nice - can not await to have them on the master site ;-)(
10:40 < rxr> ) only ,-)
10:40 < mtr> hicolor-icon-theme has a chksum error, hmm, will take look at it
10:41 < rxr> yep - see this, too ;-)
10:41 < rxr> files not on the master mirror:
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/e/evolution-data-server-1.0.2.tar.bz2
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/e/evolution-webcal-2.0.1.tar.bz2
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/e/evolution-2.0.2.tar.bz2
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/g/gal-2.2.3.tar.bz2
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/g/gftp-2.0.17.tar.bz2
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/g/gstreamer-0.8.7.tar.bz2
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/h/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.bz2
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/T/Teatime-2.4.tar.bz2
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/d/dvgrab-1.6.tar.bz2
10:41 < rxr> download/mirror/l/live.2004.10.11.tar.bz2
10:43 < mtr> yep, these have unavailable original URLs
10:46 < rxr> I now tuned the master mirror cron job a bit more
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10:51 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | the system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
10:51 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Sun Nov 7 16:41:27 2004]
10:51 [Users #t2]
10:51 [ _martin_] [ Corlis] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
10:51 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ mtr ] [ rxr_ ]
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10:52 < rxr_> obsolete files not longer used in the svn:HEAD tree will be removed after a quarter year
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10:54 < Corlis> Is there any "distro" out there that used t2?
10:54 < rxr> well - our own? ;-)
10:54 < Corlis> well, besides that one....
10:55 < rxr> at ROCK times I already did quite some industriy parter PR - and e.g. did a custom embedded distribution for Compact PCI Motorola telecomunication systems
10:55 < rxr> as well as that at least ROCK is even used at German ISPs and such
10:55 < rxr> of course the major distributions all use their own cooked stuff
10:55 < Corlis> sure
10:55 < rxr> so T2 will for now stay as custom distribution for now
10:56 < Corlis> Die Bezeichnung "Meta-Distro" passt halt doch am besten
10:56 < Corlis> oops
10:56 < Corlis> Naming it "Meta-Distro" fits perfectly, i guess
10:57 < Corlis> I'll prolly use it to create some installation cd's for a ltsp-cluster-system... might be very interesting for a few projects next year
10:57 < rxr> later the hope is that lice-cd creators, as well as all the other special tiny test present xyz use it
10:58 < rxr> as well as more embedded products ...
10:59 < rxr> I do not like the meta-distributino term that much - since in fact it is not just one distribution style you get e.g. with gentoo, but it can fature an custom init style, path layout, or just consist of a custom application with a kernel for embedded use
11:00 < rxr> for that I prefer the term System Development Environment - modelled after the Itegrated Development Environment known for ordinary programming languages
11:01 < Corlis> that's exactly what i like about it... the abstraction of applications and the ability as "distro"-maker, or System Developer, to concentrate on the handling of what the final product will look like, without the need to refound the tire
11:01 < Corlis> urm, reenvent :P
11:01 < Corlis> invent? hrmpf
11:02 < Corlis> It's saturdays...
11:02 < CIA-9> rene * r4861 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
11:02 < CIA-9> Michael Tross :
11:02 < CIA-9> * fixed evolution download URLs by switching to the official GNOME
11:02 < CIA-9> server
11:02 < rxr> ;-)
11:03 < rxr> yes - and the abstraction and least as possible hardcoded is exact what w
11:03 < rxr> uhm - it's saturdays... ;-)
11:03 < Corlis> heh
11:03 < rxr> why we started ROCK back in 1998 - and (had to) fork T2 this year ;-)
11:03 < rxr> my backspace does not like me today ...
11:04 < Corlis> my fingers don't like my keyboard as well...
11:05 < Corlis> I've been looking through many distro's this year, trying to find something elegant to use for the ltsp+cluster-thingie i am thinking about, thus looking end experiencing many different views about what linux is
11:06 < Corlis> worst thing i had to see is those somewhat even for my understanding Uber-Geeks, that were so non-openminded, that i wouldn't have wondered when they started answering questions using only 0 and 1
11:07 < Corlis> 00100101110110
11:07 < rxr> hehe
11:07 < Corlis> It's mostly so far away from what i as an it-consultant would like to have as a hrm... lets say toolset
11:08 < Corlis> and, heck, i don't need 20 different word-look-a-likes, too :P
11:09 < rxr> no, of course not - not to mention that only some have been functional I guess :-/
11:10 < mtr> try downloading hicolor-icon-theme from freedesktop.org, and have fun with their wiki:
11:10 < mtr> http://freedesktop.org/Software/icon-theme/releases/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.gz
11:10 < Corlis> but with t2, it's not a 10.000 piece-puzzle, it's a piece of paper, some ready brushes, a selection of colors, and i can start painting...
11:11 < rxr> I hope it satisfies your needs ;-) and see you join the community ;-)
11:12 < Corlis> it already satisfies my needs :P Well, still alot to do so i can build my version, tho...
11:12 < rxr> oh my - I should stop reading heise.de
11:12 < rxr> "Naja erlaubt sind für WLAN &Bluetooth imho 1Watt Sendeleistung."
11:12 < rxr> ;-)
11:12 < Corlis> 1 Watt? urm...
11:13 < rxr> yeah big smile ;-)
11:13 < rxr> Corlis: how have you discovered t2?
11:13 < Corlis> for what would i need a wlan-router if i had to put that thing 10cm away from my comp...
11:14 < Corlis> google, by accident tho :P
11:14 < Corlis> was seeking for: "distribution based on rock"
11:14 < rxr> ;-)
11:14 < Corlis> just to see what people did with it
11:14 < Corlis> then i landed on www.rocklinux-consulting.de
11:15 < Corlis> and that's it :P
11:15 < rxr> ic ;-)
11:15 < Corlis> I still wonder why there's no entry in distrowatch.com, or you think that's too early?
11:16 < rxr> no - I already submitted it two times - so far no reaction ...
11:17 < Corlis> Hrm. sad.
11:17 < Corlis> Oh, well, gotta run, have to pick up my parents... cya guys on monday
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11:21 < rxr> cu Corlis ...
11:21 < rxr> so - resent the distrowatch submission
11:28 < mtr> rxr: got the icon theme from a slackware mirror
11:28 < mtr> but t2 should keep the freedesktop.org site ?
11:29 < rxr> ah - yes
11:29 < rxr> freedesktop.org was hacked ...
11:30 < rxr> could you paste the url? I would inject them into the master mirror then ...
11:31 < mtr> http://www.slackware.at/data/slackware-current/source/gnome/hicolor-icon-theme/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.gz
11:31 < rxr> cksum-test (bzip2): download/mirror/h/hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.bz2
11:31 < rxr> ok - thanks
11:31 < rxr> soon the the slave mirrors ...
11:39 < CIA-9> rene * r4862 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (gftp/gftp.desc teatime/teatime.desc):
11:39 < CIA-9> Michael Tross :
11:39 < CIA-9> * updated gftp (2.0.17 -> 2.0.18rc1)
11:39 < CIA-9> * updated teatime (2.4 -> 2.4.1)
11:50 < rxr> somehting is broken on the main gnome server
11:50 < rxr> any other server in the work works fine on the exactcode.de server
11:50 < rxr> just the gnome one does stalle any download every 100 kB ...
11:51 < mtr> hmm, i've downloaded evolution pkgs just before sending the patch
11:53 < rxr> strange
11:53 < rxr> I had the same problem with other gnome files yesterday ....
11:53 < rxr> I pulled the remaining evolution-2.0.2.tar.bz2 from another gnome mirror ...
11:57 < mtr> gnome.org is doing some automatic mirror redirectrion, right?
11:58 * mtr downloaded from ftp.acc.umu.se :)
12:00 < CIA-9> rene * r4863 /trunk/package/multimedia/rtsp/rtsp.desc: * updated rtsp (2004.10.11 -> 2004.11.26) - original file vanished
12:00 < rxr> manually using "mirror.aarnet.edu.au" worked here
12:00 < rxr> no idea what the default redirect gave me
12:04 < rxr> ok - all files on thy master server ...
12:04 < mtr> did you get gal-2.2.3, too?
12:06 < rxr> seems so
12:07 < rxr> # ./scripts/Download -check gal
12:07 < rxr> cksum-test (bzip2): download/mirror/g/gal-2.2.3.tar.bz2
12:07 < mtr> yep, then i will restart my desktop build ...
12:07 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1035597 Nov 23 11:45 download/mirror/g/gal-0.24.tar.bz2
12:07 < rxr> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1161166 Nov 27 11:42 download/mirror/g/gal-2.2.3.tar.bz2
12:07 < rxr> mom
12:07 < rxr> gstreamer update under testing ;-)
12:08 < rxr> hm - might take some time - I just commit it ...
12:10 < CIA-9> rene * r4864 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
12:10 < CIA-9> * updated gst-plugins (0.8.5 -> 0.8.6) and gst-editor (0.7.0 -> 0.8.0)
12:10 < CIA-9> * migrated those and gstreamer to the new official download location
12:11 < mtr> are you in the mood of a uclibc patch?
12:11 < rxr> distrowatch response:
12:11 < rxr> I did receive your message and have added your distribution to the waiting
12:11 < rxr> list. I've been busy building myself a new machine (a nice AMD64 box), so I
12:11 < rxr> didn't have time to reply, but rest assured that I have read it. Please let
12:11 < rxr> me know when you have a release so that I can take a closer look.
12:11 < rxr> mnemoc: ouhm - I better go showering and breakfasting then ;-)
12:12 < mtr> hmm, mnemoc then?
12:12 < rxr> just send to the list then ;-)
12:12 < rxr> and I hope mnemoc reads it before I'm back *g* ;-)
12:13 < mtr> there is still one issue open, regarding the fl_wrapper.so
12:15 < mtr> the author of fl_wrapper.c has implemented two ways of resolving and binding, selected by #define DLOPEN_LIBC
12:15 < mtr> the default is to use libc.so.6
12:16 < mtr> which fails with uclibc, and therefore Build-Pkg cannot chroot properly
12:17 < mtr> if switching to the second method, everything builds fine
12:17 < rxr> good to know ;-)
12:17 < mtr> one exception: i am missing the .init files in the resulting pkgs :-(
12:17 * rxr showering and then breakfast
12:18 < mtr> sending it to the list
12:22 < rxr> == 11/27/04 12:15:59 =[9]=> Finished building package gst-editor.
12:23 < rxr> mtr: dvgrab does checksum error here ...
12:25 < rxr> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/d/dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz.cksum-err (195312504)
12:27 < mtr> CkSum is still 1053417475, just changed in the download URL /20/ -> /37/
12:27 < rxr> I now did:
12:27 < rxr> -[D] 1053417475 dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz http://kino.schirmacher.de/filemanager/download/20/
12:27 < rxr> +[D] 195312504 dvgrab-1.6-2.tar.gz !http://kino.schirmacher.de/filemanager/download/37/dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz
12:28 < mtr> hmm, ???
12:29 < mtr> I did: -[D] 1053417475 dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz http://kino.schirmacher.de/filemanager/download/20/
12:29 < mtr> +[D] 1053417475 dvgrab-1.6.tar.gz http://kino.schirmacher.de/filemanager/download/37/
12:29 < mtr>
12:31 < rxr> the file I get from that site has a different checksum
12:31 < rxr> 195312504
12:32 < mtr> oh yes, i have dvgrab-1.6.tar.bz2, but there is 1.5 in there, ohh my ...
12:39 * mtr off now, cu later
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12:44 < rxr> cu mtr
12:44 < rxr> hi Minto
12:44 < Minto> hi rxr
12:57 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4865 /trunk/package/office/multisync/ (multisync.conf multisync.desc):
12:57 < CIA-9> * update multisync (0.81 -> 0.82)
12:57 < CIA-9> * disable evolution plugin (not yet read for evo 2.0)
12:58 < rxr> == 11/27/04 12:49:08 =[9]=> Finished building package gst-plugins.
13:07 < CIA-9> rene * r4866 /trunk/package/multimedia/transcode/ (gcc34.patch transcode.desc):
13:07 < CIA-9> Michael Tross and Rene Rebe:
13:07 < CIA-9> * updated transcode (0.6.12 -> 0.6.14)
13:24 < rxr> == 11/27/04 13:19:23 =[9]=> Finished building package transcode.
15:44 < mnemoc> Minto=Michael Tross ?
15:44 < Minto> nope
15:44 < mnemoc> :\
15:47 < Minto> Minto = Minto van der Sluis
15:48 < mnemoc> Hi Minto van der Sluis
15:48 < Minto> Hi mnemoc
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15:48 < Minto> or should I say Alejandro Mery?
15:48 < uni> hi
15:49 < mnemoc> mnemoc :p
15:49 < Minto> Hi Uni
15:49 < mnemoc> hi uni
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15:58 < freedy> works linux with nforce3 raid or sil3114 raid ?
16:51 < valentin> i guess yes
16:51 < valentin> hi
16:51 < valentin> hm - however - maybe not the pseudo software raid ...
16:52 < valentin> mnemoc: you are looking for mtr :-)
16:52 < mnemoc> valentin: thanks :)
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17:52 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4867 /trunk/package/python/pil/ ( pil.conf pil.desc):
17:52 < CIA-9> * add "Python Imaging Library" 1.1.4
17:52 < CIA-9> (compiles but untested, see skencil)
17:53 < CIA-9> jsaw * r4868 /trunk/package/graphic/skencil/ ( skencil.conf skencil.desc):
17:53 < CIA-9> * add package skencil 0.6.16
17:53 < CIA-9> (compiles but untested, depends on pil)
17:56 < jsaw> re (for a couple of secs)
17:56 < jsaw> ping mnemoc
17:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: please check if skencil works for you...
17:58 < jsaw> <- gone again
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21:01 < mnemoc> jsaw: when i get back home i'll try to emerge skencil
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21:33 < mtr> hi mnemoc
21:33 < mnemoc> hi mtr
21:34 < mtr> did you took a look at this uclibc thing?
21:34 < mnemoc> i overlooked it
21:35 < mnemoc> i'm not sure about using find to hunt config.sub files
21:35 < mnemoc> btw, it's great to see someone continuing that work, i haven't got time to do it
21:36 < mtr> i added the find-all-config.sub's for apache, it has many of them
21:37 < mnemoc> and nmap
21:37 < mnemoc> ok
21:37 < mnemoc> :)
21:38 < mtr> yes, most work was already done by you, i just collected a current patch set for binutils and gcc
21:38 < mnemoc> i have no idea how to fix properly the conflict with fl_wrapper
21:39 < mnemoc> i think we should build another wrapper for stages 2+ against uclibc too
21:40 < mnemoc> comments?
21:41 < mtr> to have a separate fl_wrapper_uclibc.c seems a bit redundant
21:41 < mnemoc> fl_wrapper_uclibc.so
21:41 < mnemoc> from the same source
21:42 < mnemoc> uhm... but where to preload it... uhm
21:42 < mtr> Build-Pkg exports the LD_PRELOAD definition
21:43 < mnemoc> before entering chroot... or after?
21:43 < mtr> before
21:45 < mtr> sorry, i was wrong, it is just after chroot'ing
21:46 < mnemoc> then we can have a tools-native/lib/fl_wrapper.so against glibc and tools-cross/lib/fl_wrapper.so against uclibc ;)
21:46 * mnemoc reading source
21:49 < mnemoc> where is jsaw when i need him? :(
21:50 < mtr> i did only build uclibc, so glibc binding is only required for stage-0/1 in tools.cross ?
21:53 < mnemoc> i was wrong about toolsdir's names
21:53 < mnemoc> scripts/parse-config:65
21:55 < mnemoc> i thought with a if [ "$toolsdir" == "something" ]; then build_with_uclibc; else build_with_glibc; fi we could solve it
21:55 < mnemoc> scripts/Build-Tools:241
21:57 < mnemoc> uhm... /me wonders how to hack fl_wrapper.so build in a consistent way for uclibc and non-uclibc 2+ stages
21:59 < mtr> is it too much overhead to test ROCKCFG_PKG_UCLIBC_USEIT each time when building the wrapper?
21:59 < mtr> most people would never use it ...
22:00 < mnemoc> Build-Tools is only run twice
22:01 < mtr> we could add to "Build-Tools", line 241: UCLIBC_USEIT and the stagelevel
22:01 < mtr> and add appropriate switches to fl_wrapper.c
22:03 < mnemoc> try it :)
22:03 < mnemoc> if it work for uclibc, non-uclibc and cross-builds i think it's welcomed :)
22:05 < mtr> yep, i will try it
22:06 < mtr> with cross-builds you mean building stage 0/1, and then for stage 2+ compiling on the target host?
22:06 < mnemoc> do you want me to apply the rest of your patch or you will send the complete thing again?
22:07 < mnemoc> cross-builds: try to build for sparc, with cross-build enabled on Config :)
22:08 < mtr> you could apply the uclibc-related patches, the wrapper should then be changed later
22:08 < mnemoc> ok
22:13 < mtr> thanks, mnemoc
22:13 < mtr> i will do the wrapper changes when my desktop build has finished ...
22:18 < rxr> moin
22:19 < mtr> moin rxr
22:22 < CIA-9> mnemoc * r4869 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/ (26 files in 2 dirs):
22:22 < CIA-9> Michael Tross
22:22 < CIA-9> * add patches needed to continue uclibc build after entering chroot
22:22 < CIA-9> * updates uclibc (0.9.26 -> 0.9.27-20041106)
22:23 < mnemoc> moin rxr
22:24 < rxr> hi mnemoc and mtr
22:25 < mnemoc> rxr: read last 30 minutes please
22:26 < rxr> yep - already did ;-)
22:26 < rxr> I would need to reread the tool related sources, too
22:28 < rxr> cool - the open graphic card project continues to work:
22:28 < rxr> http://open-graphics.duskglow.com/openspec.pdf
22:32 < rxr> damn - I really have no clue how gentoo got into this project:
22:32 < rxr> http://www.pegasosppc.com/odw.php
22:33 < rxr> I mailed them long before gentoo hyped about possible (ROCK at that time) support and never got any response ... :-(
22:34 < mnemoc> gentoo is far more known than rock
22:35 < rxr> at that time it was not -
22:36 < rxr> haha:
22:36 < rxr> "After months of hard work the Gentoo Foundation are proud to bring you Gentoo 2004.3. 2004.3 provides several new features, such a much improved genkernel (for automatically building a working kernel) and cascading profiles."
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