--- Log opened Thu Nov 11 00:00:47 2004 00:01 < jsaw> http://svk.elixus.org/ 00:01 < jsaw> ... 00:02 < rxr> yep - I know that - but not yet tested .... 00:03 < rxr> jsaw: what did you wanted to express with "..." ? 00:03 < jsaw> oh it just reminded me of a comment by someone about sm and why then not using arch 00:04 < rxr> yep 00:04 < rxr> I also pointed clifford to svk - I guess even on the rock-devel list or so ... 00:04 < rxr> but, .... 00:05 < jsaw> really? It's the first time I hear about it. So probably overread sth. 00:05 < rxr> http://www.rocklinux.net/lurker/message/20040312.114134.c91eac77.html 00:05 < rxr> and more often I think along the lines 00:08 < rxr> this is insane 00:08 < rxr> I know have a debug-initrd script that does: 00:08 < rxr> compile the linuxrc.c 00:08 < rxr> create create an initrd 00:09 < rxr> create an iso image 00:09 < rxr> and lunches qemu ... 00:09 < rxr> where the messy part in the middle is just because qemu -initrd does not work ... :-( 00:10 < jsaw> lunches hehe, initrd eats your qemu ("Freud'scher Versprecher"?) 00:11 < rxr> yeah ... 00:11 < jsaw> (oh it's called "Freudian slip" in en) 00:25 < rxr> is there no CVS or so of the fedora source? 00:28 < mnemoc> uhm? 00:29 < rxr> s.th. like http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk - but for fedora ? 00:30 < mnemoc> #fedora ? 00:30 < rxr> mnemoc - the man with external cheannel links ;-) 00:31 < mnemoc> :) 00:31 < mnemoc> i haven't ever ever used fedora 00:31 * rxr neither - I just want some references ... 00:31 < rxr> mnemoc: ah btw. build kit 00:32 < rxr> I found s.th. unpolished in my publications folder 00:32 < rxr> on the way to you ... 00:33 < mnemoc> great! 00:34 < rxr> sent 00:34 < rxr> just some start of a text I did during train traveling 00:34 < rxr> I hope it is helping at least a bit ... 00:35 < mnemoc> sure 00:42 < rxr> oh my shit fucking hell 00:42 < rxr> why are kernel hackers so - well - ... 00:42 < rxr> I need to fetch the root= from /proc/cmdline because they strip them from the init environemnt ... 00:42 < jsaw> rxr in ranting mode again *g* 00:42 < rxr> only unrecognized stuff is passed ... 00:43 < rxr> jsaw: well, how writes such stuff ... 00:43 < rxr> this linuxrc-ng project get's funny ... 00:45 < mnemoc> since i have memory /proc/cmdline has been parsed 00:45 < rxr> in which tool, for example ? 00:48 < rxr> I mean half of the parameters are in the init environment - but only the unrecognized ones ... :-( 00:51 < mnemoc> :) 01:01 < jsaw> rxr: did you check the reactivation of linux2* in stage 5? 01:01 < rxr> partially ... 01:01 < rxr> you get build errors? 01:01 < jsaw> yep. 01:01 < jsaw> CC [M] /ROCK/src.linux26.1100128778.26116.262454891/gatos-ati_remote-2004-01-07/ati_remote26 01:01 < jsaw> .o 01:02 < rxr> and? 01:02 < jsaw> that's the first thing that is built 01:02 < rxr> ?!?! 01:02 < rxr> .oO 01:02 < jsaw> for package linux26!!! 01:02 < rxr> well that those are build is of course ok , but not as first one ... 01:02 < rxr> but at the end ... 01:03 < jsaw> oh no, it's built at the end (but is broken) 01:03 < jsaw> not my day... 01:03 < jsaw> and the day is still young... 01:04 < rxr> :-/ 01:04 < rxr> just disable the package and go on - I review broken postlinux packages later ... 01:04 < jsaw> hmmm... 01:04 < rxr> after all that is just a toay anyway 01:04 < rxr> the pending security reviwe is more important ;-) *G* 01:05 < jsaw> oh, you mean, the postlinux packages are not built in stage1 ? 01:05 < jsaw> that's the reason it fails? 01:05 < rxr> yep 01:05 < rxr> due to the complex nature of them I decided to build them only in the chroot env. for now ... 01:10 < rxr> ouhm - would anyone object when I write a cool embedded C++ version fo the linuxrc one day *g* 01:10 < rxr> ? 01:13 < jsaw> well, if the size stays near the C version...? 01:14 < rxr> sure ;-) 01:15 < rxr> tiny std::string, std::vector and std::list versions (just custom ones) and dietlibc will do and make the source much more pretty 01:15 < rxr> at least for my measurements ... 01:16 < rxr> but first the C code will get an extensions and released before that project will take off ... 01:31 < rxr> hm - there is a charakter redrawing bug in the gvim I have here 01:31 < rxr> dog old 1.7 ROCK with many in-systme updates ... 01:58 < jsaw> <- tired. cu 01:59 < rxr> hehe ;-). 01:59 < rxr> sleep well 01:59 < rxr> me soon off, too ... 02:10 < rxr> so: 02:31 -!- rxr_ [~rene@p213.54.237.161.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 02:31 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | the system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2 02:31 -!- Topic set by valentin [] [Sun Nov 7 16:41:27 2004] 02:31 [Users #t2] 02:31 [ _Ragnar_] [ daja77] [ martin_] [ rxr ] [ tschmidt__] 02:31 [ CIA-8 ] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 02:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 02:31 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 21:15:33 2004 02:31 < rxr_> re 02:31 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 21 secs 02:32 -!- rxr [~rene@p213.54.206.122.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:32 -!- You're now known as rxr 02:35 < rxr> so: 02:35 < CIA-8> rene * r4664 /trunk/target/bootdisk/linuxrc.c: (log message trimmed) 02:35 < CIA-8> * major linuxrc.c update: 02:35 < CIA-8> * fixed the space style of the file mostly around if's 02:35 < CIA-8> * fixed sentences to start with a captial, phrasei, ... 02:35 < CIA-8> * cleanup of introduction text 02:35 < CIA-8> * added message for the case no devices are found 02:35 < CIA-8> * added the basic code for later reuse for the in-system initrd 02:38 < rxr> me in bed, cu in the morning - hopefully I awake ... 03:39 < CIA-8> jsaw * r4665 /trunk/package/kde/kdebindings/ (kdebindings.conf kdebindings.desc ruby-args-fix.patch): 03:39 < CIA-8> * fix kdebindings for ruby 03:39 < CIA-8> * raise priority (damn, I forgot why...) 03:39 < CIA-8> * fix libpython detection problems 03:39 -!- martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba0255.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:44 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@65-23-193-94.prtc.net] has joined #t2 04:03 -!- sparc-kly [~sparc-kly@65-23-193-94.prtc.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:10 -!- martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba1d54.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 05:04 < CIA-8> mnemoc * r4666 /trunk/package/base/minit/minit.desc: * INIT flag added to minit 06:19 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAA6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 06:27 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.5] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:34 -!- tschmidt__ [~tschmidt@p508EAA6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:39 < martin_> moin 10:05 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EAA6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:22 -!- nzg [~tschmidt@p508EAA6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:09 < rxr> moin 11:26 < CIA-8> rene * r4667 /trunk/package/ (10 files in 10 dirs): * prettified the .desc's textual parts of new packages 11:39 < rxr> cool - due to a test abo of the time I now got a time lexicon I for free ;-) 11:41 < rxr> too bad I only have A-Bar now ... - and most probably do not invest ~100EUR the the remaining 19 parts ... 11:45 * rxr off to bakery ... 11:45 < rxr> and after breakfast the remaining parts of linuxrc are on the top of todo 11:48 < rxr> damn still no gcc-3.4.3 ibm spp patch, seems I have to add the configure adaptions patch into t2 ... 14:11 < CIA-8> rene * r4668 /trunk/target/bootdisk/linuxrc.c: 14:11 < CIA-8> * removed stray return at the end of a void function and fixed 14:11 < CIA-8> a comment 14:11 < CIA-8> * implemented load_one_module 14:11 < CIA-8> * fixed double termination of the cmdline in the case /proc can not 14:11 < CIA-8> be mounted 15:01 -!- tschmidt__ [~tschmidt@p508EB06E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 15:02 < rxr> hi tschmidt__ 15:07 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-193-94.prtc.net] has joined #t2 15:09 < rxr> # depmod /lib/modules/2.6.8-1-sparc64-smp -o 15:09 < rxr> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 15:09 < rxr> wow 15:10 < rxr> # depmod /lib/modules/2.6.8-1-sparc64-smp -n snd-sun-cs4231 15:10 < rxr> WARNING: Can't read module /snd-sun-cs4231: No such file or directory 15:10 < rxr> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 15:10 < rxr> well - ok is is an very old module-init-tools version, but still .... 15:11 < sparc-kly> big work in sparc port? 15:11 < rxr> ok, 3.0 does not crash :-) 15:12 < rxr> noe passt schon ... 15:12 < rxr> erhm - ok - maube english: nope most is fine :-) 15:17 -!- tschmidt_ [~tschmidt@p508EAA6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:18 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-193-94.prtc.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:51 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-193-94.prtc.net] has joined #t2 17:13 < rxr> I just started to get t2 to http://www.distrowatch.org 17:31 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-193-94.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:46 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-193-94.prtc.net] has joined #t2 19:03 -!- sparc-kly [~mubex@65-23-193-94.prtc.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:08 -!- sparc-kly_ [~sparky@65-23-193-94.prtc.net] has joined #t2 19:21 -!- martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba1d54.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:58 -!- martin_ [~martin@brln-d9ba255a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #t2 21:11 -!- mnemoc [~amery@200.75.27.23] has joined #t2 21:33 < rxr> moin 21:38 -!- sparc-kly_ is now known as sparc-kly 21:45 < CIA-8> rene * r4669 /trunk/package/base/gcc/ (4 files): 21:45 < CIA-8> * updated gcc (3.4.3) - tested on x86 21:45 < CIA-8> * some protector applying cleanups on the way 21:45 < CIA-8> * an private, updated protector patch 21:45 < CIA-8> * removed obsolete patches 22:03 < jsaw> checking for easter eggs... none found 22:03 < jsaw> (from kdepim configure) 22:03 < rxr> hehe - yeah saw such things already, too 22:04 < rxr> s.th. even contained "checking for beer in fridge2 or so 22:04 < rxr> s/2/"/ 22:04 < jsaw> that's e 22:04 < rxr> hehe 22:05 < jsaw> checking if we need to talk to broken timsieved's... no 22:06 < rxr> btw. I finished the remaining lines to use linuxrc as universal initial ramdisk loader 22:06 < rxr> and even already use it on mx Ultra30 - but I already moved it inot sysfiles and such 22:06 < rxr> so I wait until the commit when the bootdisk and sysfiles pacakge built completely ... 22:06 < rxr> I guess tomorrow afternoon ... 22:11 < jsaw> getting curious 22:11 < rxr> not that many changes needed anymore ... 22:11 < rxr> just the infrastructure relocation around it ... 22:11 < jsaw> 1322 builds total, 708 completed fine, 6 with errors. 22:12 < jsaw> [5] emulators/hercules [5] network/gsmlib 22:12 < jsaw> [5] e17/efsd [5] e17/elicit 22:12 < jsaw> [5] e17/entrance [5] audio/gsmp 22:12 < jsaw> I'd say, this looks quite promissing...! 22:12 < rxr> yep ;-) 22:13 < jsaw> btw. I tried e17 updates of those that failed, no chance unless one would update all e17 libs... 22:14 < rxr> yep, /me tried to look into efsd and entrance 22:15 < jsaw> okay, I'm off again and waiting for a package to fail...in the meantime I do some "real" work... :) cu 22:15 < CIA-8> rene * r4670 /trunk/package/multimedia/zapping/zapping.desc: * updated zapping (0.7cvs8 -> 0.8) - untested 22:17 < rxr> have fun --- Log closed Fri Nov 12 00:00:01 2004