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00:15 < CIA-10> rene * r4582 /trunk/package/cad/qcad/ (compile.patch qcad.conf): 
00:15 < CIA-10> Lars Kuhtz:
00:15 < CIA-10>  * fixed qcad compilation
00:19 < CIA-10> rene * r4583 /trunk/package/kde/qt/config.in: 
00:19 < CIA-10> * since qcad can easily compile without stl support in qt, disable
00:19 < CIA-10>  it by default, again
00:28 < CIA-10> rene * r4584 /trunk/package/kde/superkaramba/superkaramba.conf: 
00:28 < CIA-10> * hacked superkaramba to compile (usual "our python links to the world
00:28 < CIA-10>  problem")
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01:04 < rxr> sparc-kly: our sparcs are busy crunching t2 builds these days ...
01:09 < rxr> == 11/06/04 01:06:25 =[5]=> Finished building package linphone.
01:10 < mnemoc> nice topic :)
01:10 < rxr> hehe
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01:11 < CIA-10> rene * r4585 /trunk/package/multimedia/linphone/no-gtkdoc.patch: * fixed linphone
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01:11 < rxr> mnemoc: the topic was just the result from too much ugly GlibC code on my screen ...
01:12 < mnemoc> i liked more than these :)
01:12 < rxr> mnemoc: then change it ;-)
01:12 < rxr> with desktop we should now be somewhere around:
01:13 < rxr> 971 builds total, 925 completed fine, 45 with errors.
01:13 < mnemoc> you are the one suffering to get GNU/Junk working :)
01:14 < rxr> yeah - valentin too
01:14 < rxr> valentin even more because he fights with a bit new glibc that does build, but segfault during invocation of the dynamic linker ...
01:15 < rxr> ^- on sparc only of course ...
01:15 < rxr> x86 and powerpc are not the problem ...
01:15 < mnemoc> if you want to relax you can try diet thing :)
01:16 < rxr> yeah - it is 1:16 here ...
01:16 < rxr> so it is scheduled for the morning, ok ? ,-)
01:16 < rxr> the ugly glibc makefiles and echo "code" | gcc ... -x-cpp-assembly or so crap took quite some time ...
01:18 < rxr> I wonder why the glibc people around drepper still have .h and .c files - they could all embed all into shell code in the Makefiles ...
01:20 < rxr> btw, I heared some professor at our university wants to get some unix, bsd, linux on some xscale based embedded board - maybe t2 is proposed to him ...
01:20 < rxr> xscale == intel arm thingi
01:24 < CIA-10> rene * r4586 /trunk/package/develop/gdb/ (gdb.conf gdb.desc): 
01:24 < CIA-10> * updated gdb (6.1.1 -> 6.2.1)
01:24 < CIA-10> * removed random flistdel junk from the .conf file
01:26 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | From the folks that get the GNU/Junk working for you ...
01:26 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | From the folks that get the GNU/Junk working for you ... | www.exactcode.de/t2
01:26 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | From the folks that get the GNU/Junk working for you | www.exactcode.de/t2
01:26 -!- rxr changed the topic of #t2 to: T2, From the folks that get the GNU/Junk working for you, www.exactcode.de/t2
01:32 < valentin> rxr ??
01:35 < mnemoc> acording to GNU GNU/Junk means Junk complements GNU functionality
01:35 < mnemoc> GNU Junk is Junk created by GNU
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01:37 < rxr> valentin: mnemoc liked it, so ...
01:37 < rxr> so - my sparc is now back on track (next glibc try - forgot another vital patch ...)
01:37 < rxr> so /me off into bed ...
01:38 < mnemoc> gn8 rene
01:39 < rxr> yeah - n8 all, and cu in the "morning"
01:39 < rxr> == 11/06/04 01:40:10 =[9]=> Finished building package gdb.
01:39 < rxr> ^- powerpc
01:39  * rxr off
02:15 < sparc-kly> rxr: yeahhh sparc building time 
02:16 < sparc-kly> when you have something I can test you said to me
02:17 < sparc-kly> my gramatic is bad 
02:17 < sparc-kly> LOL
02:20 < mnemoc> don't worry, mine is not much better
02:40 < valentin> gn8 folks, hope tomorow my sparc build will have passed stage 1 without further critical errors
02:44 < mnemoc> make the frce be with you
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03:43 [Users #t2]
03:43 [ _Ragnar_  ] [ CIA-10] [ jsaw   ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 
03:43 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ martin_] [ praenti] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 
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09:47 < rxr_> moin
09:48 < rxr_> damn
09:48 < rxr_> mine has errors:
09:48 < rxr_> : multiple definition of `_init'
09:48 < rxr_> : multiple definition of `_fini'
09:48 < rxr_> : undefined reference to `i_am_not_a_leaf'
10:00 < rxr_> gcc-3.4.3 is out
10:00  * rxr_ preparing update
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11:10 < martin_> moin
11:14 < rxr> moin martin_ 
11:23 < CIA-10> rene * r4587 /trunk/package/audio/libsamplerate/libsamplerate.desc: * updated libsamplerate (0.1.0 -> 0.1.2)
11:23 < rxr> crazzy, the mplayer people have not even been able to implement the alsa basics right:
11:23 < rxr> alsa-pause: pcm pause error: Function not implemented
11:23 < rxr> alsa-resume: pcm resume error: Function not implemented
11:23 < rxr> alsa-space: xrun of at least 93368.309 msecs. resetting stream
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11:48 < rxr> oh my god - I just thro some test videso from the mplayer site into my ppc mplayer here
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11:48 < rxr> unbelievable how crappy the mplayer alsa implemetation is, nearly never produces output one wants to listen to
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12:02 < martin_> Hi rxr. Which patch I need for scanning and monitor wireless networks?
12:03 < rxr> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
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12:04 < rxr> I think this one:
12:04 < rxr> http://ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/orinoco-0.15rc2.tar.gz
12:05 < rxr> yep
12:05 < rxr> but - hm - I had to patch it to work with my chip - and so I guess yours ...
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12:22 < martin_> rxr Hmmm, in the README file is writen: "This driver has been include in the Linux kernel since version 2.4.3" Is the README old and the driver is newer, than the version in linux kernel?
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12:37 < rxr> martin_: if you would compare the linux 2.4.3 release date and the driver you would notice the driver is much newer (2004) then the 2.4.3 (2001 or so) ...
12:45 < martin_> rxr And the driver in the last linux kernel is not the same, as the driver in orinoco-0.15rc2.tar.gz?
12:47 < rxr> martin_: do not ask for stuff I already wrote and said
12:47 < rxr> martin_: can you current kernel monitor, no ... - so this is the first indication that they are not the same ...
12:48 < martin_> rxr THANKS!
12:48 < rxr> martin_: this tarball is 6 months of driver development - it is much more recent ...
12:49 < rxr> martin_: but as I wrote a hour ago or so, to use monitoring on your card you need to remore one line from the source 
12:49 < rxr> martin_: do you want a patch or do you find it on your own?
12:50 < sparc-kly> moin
12:50 < rxr> hi sparc-kly 
12:52  * sparc-kly download Suse 9.2 PROfessional . LOL bittorrent rlz hehehe 
12:53 < rxr> --- orinoco-0.15rc2/orinoco.c	2004-07-28 08:06:45.000000000 +0200
12:53 < rxr> +++ orinoco-0.15rc2-fixed/orinoco.c	2004-11-06 12:54:03.484372184 +0100
12:53 < rxr> @@ -2590,7 +2590,7 @@
12:53 < rxr>  		priv->has_pm = (firmver >= 0x40020); /* Don't work in 7.52 ? */
12:53 < rxr>  		priv->ibss_port = 1;
12:53 < rxr>  		priv->has_hostscan = (firmver >= 0x8000a);
12:53 < rxr> -		priv->broken_monitor = (firmver >= 0x80000);
12:53 < rxr> +		priv->broken_monitor = 0; /* (firmver >= 0x80000); works for me -ReneR */
12:53 < rxr>  
12:53 < rxr>  		/* Tested with Agere firmware :
12:53 < rxr>  		 *	1.16 ; 4.08 ; 4.52 ; 6.04 ; 6.16 ; 7.28 => Jean II
12:53 < rxr> ^- for martin of course
13:02 < rxr> http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/purple_america_2004.gif
13:04 < rxr> I do some more work on the update tester
13:05 < rxr> oh - I promissed to track the bootdisk for mnemoc ... - hm - after all the glibc crap I need s.th. funny first
13:37 < mnemoc> :(
13:37 < rxr> :-(
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13:38 < mnemoc> CIA need traffic control
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13:47 < sparc-kly> rxr you work full time for T2?
13:48 < mnemoc> LOL
13:48 < mnemoc> he seems so
13:49 < rxr> sparc-kly: well, sort of *g*
13:50 < rxr> sparc-kly: t2 is just a open source project I invest some time into to get a solid base for our other stuff ...
13:50 < rxr> and I wait for another contract to come in, so I invest as much time in t2 as possible since I know I'll be quite busy whith "this other thing" for the next three weeks or so when the contract comes in ...
13:50 < sparc-kly> ahhh ok
13:51 < rxr> and we need release ISOs to start PR for T2, PR (osnews.com, symlink, freshmeat ...) at this poin without dedicated T2 ISOs does not make that much sense ...
13:52 < rxr> == 11/06/04 13:49:49 =[1]=> Finished building package glibc.
13:52 < rxr> ^- sparc - finally ...
13:53 < sparc-kly> :D
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13:55 < rxr> hi esdentem 
13:56 < mnemoc> esden!
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13:56 < esden> hi rxr, mnemoc
14:07 < rxr> esden: how are you, how is your study going?
14:15 < CIA-9> rene * r4588 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: * removed additional " matching for html sites
14:18 < CIA-9> rene * r4589 /trunk/package/multimedia/libtheora/ ( libtheora.cache libtheora.desc): * added libtheora (1.0alpha3)
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14:20 < rxr> valentin: I just verified that the binaries produced by T2 :HEAD on sparc are functional (just copied some into my normal (old) sysytem
14:20 < rxr> valentin: it is just that the dynamic-loader seems to be buggy ...
14:21 < rxr> to bad we can not verify the rest of glibc this way, becasue t
14:21 < rxr> because (even) it is incompatible with the glibc-2.3.2 dynamic loader :-(
14:36 < CIA-9> rene * r4590 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: 
14:36 < CIA-9> * basic refactoring of UpdateList
14:36 < CIA-9> * suppressed debugging output
15:11 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/52970
16:00 < jsaw> just a notice about the diet/bootdisk problem, the actual is the search order of the <> includes:
16:00 < jsaw> [snip]
16:00 < jsaw> #include "..." search starts here:
16:00 < jsaw> #include <...> search starts here:
16:00 < jsaw>  /scratch/src/t2/build/boot-2.1.0-beta-x86-bootdisk-expert/usr/include
16:00 < jsaw>  /scratch/src/t2/build/boot-2.1.0-beta-x86-bootdisk-expert/usr/local/include
16:01 < jsaw>  /scratch/src/t2/build/boot-2.1.0-beta-x86-bootdisk-expert/usr/dietlibc/include
16:01 < jsaw> End of search list.
16:01 < jsaw> GNU C version 3.4.2 (i386-unknown-linux-gnu)
16:01 < jsaw> [snip]
16:01 < jsaw> even -nostdinc doesn't remove the usr/include and and usr/local/include
16:02 < jsaw> (btw, that means, sys/types.h from dietlibc include inttypes.h from /usr/include, which does not contain the relevant uint32_t typedef...)
16:02 < jsaw> bye bye
16:02 < rxr> cu jsaw 
16:04 < jsaw> (sorry can't work on it, I have to slap myself so I'm going to concentrate on other I _have_ to do...)
16:04 < jsaw> other things, I mean
16:05 < rxr> yeah - no problem
16:29 < CIA-9> rene * r4591 /trunk/package/develop/boost/boost.desc: 
16:29 < CIA-9> * updated boost (0.31.0) - untested since an 0.32.0 update with vial
16:29 < CIA-9>  fixes is to be packaged right now
17:03 < rxr> ^_ 1.x of course
17:03 < CIA-9> rene * r4592 /trunk/package/develop/boost/boost.desc: * updated boost (1.31.0 -> 1.32.0-pre) - tested
17:19 < CIA-9> rene * r4593 /trunk/package/x11/kahakai/ (glibc23.patch kahakai.desc): * updated kahakai (0.6.1 -> 0.6.2) and fixed compilation
17:19 < rxr> 971 builds total, 925 completed fine, 44 with errors.
17:24 < rxr> 4 more should be solved right now - test running 
17:48 < CIA-9> rene * r4594 /trunk/package/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
17:48 < CIA-9> * fixed shared files of streamtuner, zapping and gtkam, by including
17:48 < CIA-9>  our standard gnome code to get rid of scrollkeeper generated files
17:48 < CIA-9> * convertion of ugly code in gtkam.desc (now nicer in the .conf ...)
17:55 < CIA-9> rene * r4595 /trunk/package/cad/qcad/qcad.conf: * fixed qcad, by removing to copy the no-longer existing scritps sub-dir
17:57 < rxr> jsaw: stlport does not build here ... lots of:
17:57 < rxr> `.L14863' referenced in section `.rodata' of ../lib/obj/GCC/ReleaseD/locale_impl
17:57 < rxr> .o: defined in discarded section `.gnu.linkonce.t._ZNK4_STL9money_getIwNS_19istr
17:57 < rxr> eambuf_iteratorIwNS_11char_traitsIwEEEEE6do_getES4_S4_bRNS_8ios_baseERiRNS_12bas
17:57 < rxr> ic_stringIwS3_NS_9allocatorIwEEEE' of ../lib/obj/GCC/ReleaseD/locale_impl.o
18:24 < CIA-9> rene * r4596 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgda/ (gcc34.patch libgda.desc): 
18:24 < CIA-9> * downdated libgda (1.1.6 -> 1.0.4) - due to libgnomedb regressions
18:24 < CIA-9>  (which is still an update, was 1.0.1 before the big update)
18:26 < rxr> we should be dont to "39 errors", now
18:30 < rxr> 971 builds total, 929 completed fine, 39 with errors.
18:30 < rxr> some stuff still rebuilding ...
18:48 < rxr> 971 builds total, 931 completed fine, 38 with errors.
18:48 < mnemoc> diet?
18:49  * rxr hides
18:51 < mnemoc> :(
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18:58 < CIA-9> rene * r4601 /trunk/target/bootdisk/build_stage2.sh: * the next round of bootdisk package map adaptions
18:59 < rxr> mnemoc: I just investigated it a bit ...
19:00 < rxr> am I allowed to fix this after meeting susan - you know how easy grils get upset when you let them wait ...
19:00 < rxr> ?
19:01 < rxr> mnemoc: might I fix it by moving this stuff into a finish package or so long proposed in rock already? so we do not need to mess around with toolchain built stuff in the post target build script and also would not need to rebuild them every time we run Build-Target and so on
19:02 < mnemoc> re
19:03 < mnemoc> women are... women
19:04 < mnemoc> the problem is on build.sh _after_ everything is built
19:09 < rxr> yep - I propose to move this build.sh build stuff into a "finish" package as proposed in the rock flyspray
19:09 < rxr> no idea if they already implemented this yet, but I think this would make such target build stuff quite easy - compared to this post-build hacks ...
19:10  * rxr soon away, but would be nice if you could write some comments - e.g. if I shoudl just fix it up without reogranization ...
19:11 < mnemoc> 2.2?
19:11 < rxr> this would be a tiny one afternoon or so cleanup, I would just to it tomorrow lunch or so ...
19:12 < rxr> if we agree it would make sense ...
19:13 < rxr> cu /me off
19:13 < mnemoc> i agree, but i think we(you :p) must focus on stabilization :D
19:28 < mnemoc> OT: next time sort your update list :p
19:29 < mnemoc> damn... i want to spend time on opensource developmente again :\
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22:38 < valentin> y
22:39 -!- valentin changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | the system development environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
22:39 < mnemoc> no more fight against GNU :D
22:39 < valentin> hehe
22:41 < valentin> just a more serious topic
22:49 < valentin> cu later
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23:34 < mtr> hi
23:35 < mtr> it seems that the linux2x-src packages are missing
23:36 < mtr> or am i missing something?
23:43 < mnemoc> yes, they were removed
23:43 < mnemoc> linux-header is only one now
23:43 < mnemoc> and linux2[24] are the only kernel packages
23:44 < mnemoc> rene sent a mail to t2's ML about that
23:45 < mtr> hmm, any special reason for the removal?
23:46 < mnemoc> Message-ID: <4167F5CA.1000102@rocklinux-consulting.de>
23:46 < mnemoc> rene explains his reasons on that post
23:47 < mnemoc> do you want a forward?
23:47 < rxr> re
23:47 < mnemoc> it seems there is no archive
23:47 < mnemoc> hi rxr
23:47 < mnemoc> rxr: there is an only archive of the ML?
23:48 < mnemoc> s/only//g
23:48 < rxr> only the gmane one
23:48 < mnemoc> yes it is there
23:50 < mnemoc> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel/19
23:51 < mnemoc> oh, it only a RE: (
23:51 < mnemoc> :(
23:51 < mtr> mnemoc: many thanks, found it, reading ...
23:52 < mnemoc> rxr: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel/10 <--- i _did_ answer you about rock{net,plug} relocation
23:57 < rxr> ok - /me -> bed (was only a remote nightly visit)
23:57 < rxr> sparc building ;-)
23:58 < mtr> OK, got the reason for the removal
23:59 < mtr> i did not get these mail although i am subscribed to the list
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