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03:41 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | The System Development Environment | http://www.exactcode.de/t2
03:41 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Fri Oct 29 16:53:31 2004]
03:41 [Users #t2]
03:41 [ _Ragnar_  ] [ CIA-9] [ martin_] [ praenti] [ rxr_     ] [ valentin] 
03:41 [ blindcoder] [ jsaw ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr    ] [ sparc-kly] 
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07:31 < martin_> George W. Bush: 269 - John F. Kerry: 207 (at 7:31h, Berlin)  :-(
07:51 < rxr_> moin
07:51 < rxr_> yeah - unbelievable how stupid americans are ...
07:51 < rxr_> now we have to endure that stupid word-destroying asshole some more years :-(
08:00 < martin_> but there are many not-stupid american people. They demonstrate against Bush. But not enough. :-(
08:01 < rxr_> yeah - sure, but compare the 8% or so of german people that would vote for bush with the 50% in america ...
08:04 -!- You're now known as rxr
08:06 < martin_> hmmm, what for the german vote and Stoiber ... :-(
08:19 < rxr> yeah - ok, no comment
08:20 < rxr> 955 builds total, 358 completed fine, 0 with errors.
08:24 < CIA-9> rene * r4522 /trunk/scripts/functions: 
08:24 < CIA-9> * moved the basic (like README, AUTHORS ...) document copy out of the
08:24 < CIA-9>  $createdocs conditional - so we always get the basic info, just not
08:24 < CIA-9>  the deep search for documentation
08:24 < CIA-9> rene * r4523 /trunk/package/base/mouseemu/mouseemu.init: * fixed mouseemu.init to acutally execute the right file ;-)
08:25 < CIA-9> rene * r4524 /trunk/package/base/mouseemu/mouseemu.init: * fixed mouseemu.init to use a correctly named config variable - oops
08:26 < martin_> rxr Can I use mouseemu now?
08:28 < rxr> do not switch yet - it still has the key before mousebutton problem ... :-(
08:32 < martin_> hmm okay. I need a new middle mouse button. F10 is dead.
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09:09 < CIA-9> rene * r4525 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * updated gimp (2.0.5 -> 2.0.6)
09:51 < martin_> == 09:44:30 =[9]=> Building graphic/gimp [2.0.6 2.1.0-beta].
09:51 < martin_> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
09:51 < martin_> !> The package build aborted with the following config error:
09:51 < martin_> !> glib is not installed (in prefix usr)!
09:51 < martin_> == 11/03/04 09:44:33 =[9]=> Aborted building package gim
09:52 < rxr> too old gnome on your box, it does not match the current gnome28 pre-configuration
09:52 < rxr> change the gnome28 path via scripts/Config to gnome26 or gnome24 or whatever is in your /opt ;-)
09:55 < martin_> hm, can I update gnome easy?
09:55 < rxr> if you want to compile it for multiple hours ...
09:56 < martin_> yes ... when is compile with no erros
09:56 < rxr> you have demands ... ;-)
09:57 < rxr> do you use anything from gnome?
09:57 < rxr> if not do:
09:57 < rxr> rm -rf /opt/gnome26 (or what you have
09:57 < rxr> and do ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -repository gnome2
09:57 < rxr> well - this looks mostly good:
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.2
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3-alpha
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3-beta
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3-pre12
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3-pre9
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3-rc1
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3-rc2
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3.1
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3a
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.3b
09:57 < rxr>   1.2.4
09:57 < martin_> it's need many free diskspace?
09:58 < rxr> just some minor seldom used notations that are not that easy to integrate in the sorting ...
09:58 < martin_> wonderfull :)
09:58 < martin_> pre12 pre9 ...
09:58 < rxr> e.g. nubered pre? and the ugly charakter add-ons ...
09:59 < rxr> martin_: yeah - you are free to fix it, or write an alternative implementation from scratch ...
10:00 < CIA-9> rene * r4526 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: 
10:00 < CIA-9> * some more experimental version comparing code (works better but not
10:00 < CIA-9>  yet perfect - much debugging cout's in the code ...)
10:27 < rxr> 955 builds total, 381 completed fine, 0 with errors.
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11:15 < rxr> cool - one tine tweak and my Version class can handle all my test cases correctly:
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.12
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.2
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3a
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3-alpha
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3b
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3-beta
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3-pre12
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3-pre9
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3-rc1
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3-rc2
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.3.1
11:15 < rxr>   1.2.4
11:16 < blindcoder> hate to dump it on you but shouldn't 1.2.12 be at the end of the list?
11:18 < rxr> blindcoder: didn't I wrote after one tine tweak?
11:19 < rxr> tiny even
11:19 < martin_> is pre12 older than pre9 ?
11:19 < blindcoder> rxr: oh, I misunderstood that. I thought you just did one tiny tweak and this was the result
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11:54 < rxr> 955 builds total, 408 completed fine, 1 with errors.
11:54 < rxr> only the long broken efsd so far ...
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.2
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3a
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3-alpha
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3b
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3-beta
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3-pre9
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3-pre12
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3-rc1
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3-rc2
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.3.1
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.4
12:02 < rxr>   1.2.12
12:02 < rxr> (and no - it did not took me all the time for the tiny fix ;-)
12:03 < CIA-9> rene * r4527 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: 
12:03 < CIA-9> * the next even more inteligent version rework ;-)
12:03 < CIA-9>  (the code is horrible - cleanup pending)
12:08 < rxr> I now run a full test-4-updates over all packages and review the log thereafter ...
12:08  * rxr off for lunch - cu
12:13 < rxr> so - me off ...
12:39 < mnemoc> moin
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15:34 < rxr> re
15:50 < rxr> ouhm - the version update tester yields tons of possible updates ....
15:50 < rxr> I'm not yet sure whether to ;-) or :-(
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16:01 < CIA-9> rene * r4528 /trunk/package/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
16:01 < CIA-9> * moved alsaplayer (multimedia -> audio)
16:01 < CIA-9> * moved wv2 (extra -> office)
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16:16 < CIA-9> rene * r4529 /trunk/package/gnome2/pkgview/pkgview.desc: 
16:16 < CIA-9> * updated pkgview (1.0.5 -> 1.0.6) - fixes compilation - at least on
16:16 < CIA-9>  powerpc
16:16 < rxr> 277 updates found so far ...
16:16 < rxr> who wants to validate them? *g*
16:20 < rxr> 316
16:34 < CIA-9> rene * r4530 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * enabled aspell.* for the desktop target (fixes balsa)
16:35 < rxr> 961 builds total, 536 completed fine, 8 with errors.
16:57 < CIA-9> rene * r4531 /trunk/package/audio/alsaplayer/alsaplayer.conf: * fixed alsaplayer for the case nas is used
17:02 < CIA-9> rene * r4532 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: 
17:02 < CIA-9> * added gnome-pilot to the desktop target (please *pilot* packages,
17:02 < CIA-9>  e.g. the gnome* ones)
17:08 < CIA-9> rene * r4533 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: 
17:08 < CIA-9> * fixed the desktop target to select the new repository "printing"
17:08 < CIA-9>  (was "print")
17:13 < rxr> 965 builds total, 568 completed fine, 4 with errors.
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17:44 < sparc-kly> http://sh.nu/~kitty/time.jpg
17:45 < rxr> yeah
17:47 < valentin> fine - they want to abolish the german unification day ... this sucks for it is on Okt 03, one day after my birthday
17:47 < valentin> no more long sleeping after the party :(
17:47 < valentin> hi all, btw :)
17:48 < daja77> it is my birthday ...
17:50 < valentin> daja77: we should organize a demo against this stupid law proposal
17:51 < daja77> yeah sure
17:52 < rxr> I attend - just for the sleep after the party .. ;-)
17:52 < rxr> but I guess such an history reminder public holiday will not be abondone ...
17:52 < rxr> which party proposed it?
17:52 < valentin> we are three representatives of the IT-lobby. good chances
17:53 < valentin> rxr: http://tagesschau.de/aktuell/meldungen/0,1185,OID3762834_TYP6_THE_NAVSPM1_REF1_BAB,00.html
17:54 < rxr> crazzy ... di
17:54 < CIA-9> rene * r4534 /trunk/source/Curl.hh: 
17:54 < CIA-9> * fixed file-descriptor leakage (mkstemp already opens the file
17:54 < CIA-9>  and we never closed that fd (not about ever saving it ...))
17:54 < CIA-9> * fixed some unnecessary string object copies (use const stdd:string&)
17:54 < CIA-9> * some indentation changes
17:54 < rxr> did they drunk too much?!?!?
17:55 < valentin> they may abolish X-mas or so, but not my birthday holiday
17:57 < rxr> haha
17:57 < rxr> where is my birthday holiday *g*?
17:57 < CIA-9> rene * r4535 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: 
17:57 < CIA-9> * fixed UpdateList to delete the returned fstream
17:57 < CIA-9> * output the base filename for found versions
17:57 < CIA-9> * some stray bits
17:58 < valentin> ouhm, vote for halloween as an official holiday
17:58 < daja77> no!
17:59 < valentin> *g*
17:59 < rxr> daja77: sure, that would yield a holiday after my birthday! ;-)
18:00 < rxr> good that I added this check long time ago at rock times:
18:00 < rxr> !> Processing static lib corrections ...
18:00 < rxr> !> Verifing the .la files ...
18:00 < rxr> !> -pthread in: dependency_libs=' -L/opt/gnome28/lib -lglib ..
18:00 < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-gnet.out -> 5-gnet.err
18:00 < daja77> rxr: you are used to not have a holiday :p
18:02 < rxr> haha
18:03 < daja77> <- got the certificate for studienarbeit today
18:03 < _Ragnar_> nice;)
18:13 < CIA-9> rene * r4536 /trunk/source/ (Curl.hh UpdateList.cc): * converted the fstream return to use std::auto_ptr<> ;-)
18:16 < rxr> so - new UpdateList running with fd leakage fixed ;-)
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19:33 < rxr> "Kerry calls to concede" :-(
19:35 < CIA-9> rene * r4537 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnet/lib-pthread.patch: 
19:35 < CIA-9> * fixed gnet to not propagate -pthread into the .la file (and so
19:35 < CIA-9>  not to confuse libtool when utilized by other packages ;-)
19:40 < CIA-9> rene * r4538 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in: * added the www packages to the desktop target ;-)
19:43 < mnemoc> rxr: i _fear_ your massive update
19:45  * rxr too ...
19:45 < mnemoc> rxr: example, you chooce an snapshot on phppgadmin considering we are using an stable release
19:45 < rxr> this is why I do not do it (right now)
19:45 < rxr> this is just the raw output
19:45 < rxr> just for inspiration ...
19:46 < rxr> of course we will never just apply those, but use an automated tester to check if it will at least compile and send a mail with report and patch to some list or so ...
19:46 < rxr> so the relevant maintainer just throws it into the trunk _if_ _some human_ decides it is reasonable ...
19:47 < mnemoc> i liked oldstyle because it was easy to have two windows, one reading update list, and one to run update script by hand
19:47 < rxr> the old script just revealted noise ...
19:47 < mnemoc> not to me
19:47 < rxr> (ok my current version is also full of debug stuff - but this will change)
19:48 < mnemoc> you can't generalize the version sorting
19:48 < rxr> my plan is automated search and testing of updates and the report goes to people wanting to knwo
19:48 < rxr> well, it works quite well ...
19:48 < rxr> the only real "unfixable" thing so far is gcc-77-3.4.2 is bigger then gcc-3.4.2 :-(
19:49 < rxr> if you do not like some automated update testing, you do not need to use it ...
19:49 < rxr> but for my part normal updates just waste a lot of time ...
19:49 < mnemoc> example, bincimap-1.2.10final.tar.bz2 vs. bincimap-1.2.11pre9.tar.bz2
19:49 < mnemoc> i fear _you_ using it
19:50 < rxr> believe me, I'll not apply it to packages I do not use and care about ...
19:50 < mnemoc> :)
19:50 < rxr> I want to use it as guide ... - not as "my name is build-system" automation
19:51 < mnemoc> what's the name of the script to check differences between a tree and an installed machine?
19:51 < rxr> ok - the x.yfinal is the 2nd ungood naming convention that would not sort using my current code ...
19:51 < rxr> scripts/Create-UpdList or so
19:52 < mnemoc> and yours? UpdateList?
19:54 < CIA-9> rene * r4539 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.desc: * removed URL comment from our glibc package's URL
19:55 < mnemoc> what if we define a new set of CV-tags, rules to be used to autoselect according to package specific convention?
19:55 < rxr> it is in source
19:55 < rxr> yes, maybe we could still use a CV-PATTERN or so ...
19:55 < rxr> but if this only matters for 5 packages out of 1300 it might not be worth it ...
19:55 < rxr> we'll see
19:56 < mnemoc> we thought different, /me focus in exceptions, then i generalize, you focus in happy packages
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r4540 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus/no-exif.patch: * fixed nautilus by disabling support for our far to new libexif
20:03 < CIA-9> rene * r4541 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnet/lib-pthread.patch: * added comment to the new gnet/lib-pthread.patch
20:03 < rxr> 970 builds total, 611 completed fine, 5 with errors.
20:03 < rxr> mnemoc: yes, install target is under investigation _now_
20:32 < rxr> CCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
20:32 < rxr> a new xsnow version !!!!!!!!!!
20:32 < rxr> xsnow-1.42
20:32 < rxr> i start to love the update tester ;-)!!!!
20:36 < martin_> he he, yes. xsnow is cool.
20:36 < martin_> so, i will turn off my ppc. gn8 all
20:42  * martin_ is AWAY ...
20:49 < rxr> cu mnemoc 
20:49 < rxr> martin_: even .,. ;-)
21:12 < CIA-9> rene * r4542 /trunk/package/filesystem/reiser4progs/ (reiser4progs.conf reiser4progs.desc va_list.patch.libaal): 
21:12 < CIA-9> * updated reiser4progs (1.0.0 -> 1.0.2)
21:12 < CIA-9> * fixed reiser4progs to not create *.reiserfs symlinks
21:12 < rxr> mnemoc: so - only bdb left to fix on the install target
21:52 < rxr> == 11/03/04 21:19:46 =[5]=> Finished building package reiser4progs.
21:52 < rxr> == 11/03/04 21:31:50 =[5]=> Finished building package reiserfsprogs.
21:53 < rxr> 970 builds total, 614 completed fine, 5 with errors.
21:53 < rxr> 162 builds total, 161 completed fine, 1 with errors.
21:53 < rxr> the later is the install target ...
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22:27 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
22:30 < rxr> 970 builds total, 619 completed fine, 5 with errors.
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22:31 < CIA-9> rene * r4543 /trunk/architecture/sparc/ (kernel24-disable.lst kernel26-disable.lst): 
22:31 < CIA-9> * updated the sparc/kernel*-disable.lst files (added some new
22:31 < CIA-9>  regressions :-)
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22:39 < sparc-kly|Work> hi
22:46 < rxr> hi sparc-kly|Work 
22:46 < rxr> == 11/03/04 22:37:49 =[5]=> Finished building package bdb.
22:46 < rxr> ^- install target ...
22:46 < rxr> ^- bootdisk target even
22:47 < sparc-kly|Work> :P  /me in cisco class
22:47 < rxr> sparc-kly|Work: have fun
22:48 < CIA-9> rene * r4544 /trunk/target/bootdisk/pkg_bdb.conf: 
22:48 < CIA-9> * fixed the bootdisk's target bdb (by disabling the c++ bindings which
22:48 < CIA-9>  are enabled in the package's bdb.conf ...
22:48 < rxr> desktop:
22:48 < rxr> 970 builds total, 621 completed fine, 5 with errors.
22:48 < rxr> bootdisk:
22:49 < rxr> 162 builds total, 162 completed fine, 0 with errors.
22:49 < rxr> me a bit reading - cu later
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