--- Log opened Wed Oct 13 00:00:15 2004
00:01 < mnemoc> rxr: do i commit compare.sh into t2's misc/archive ?
00:27 < rxr> if you like, feel free to ;-)
00:27 < rxr> so ;-) now Xcode installed ...
00:28 < mnemoc> rxr: would your use it? improve it?
00:32 < rxr> yes - but your question was if you "do" it ;-) I did not wnated to force you ...
00:32 < rxr> hey, Xcode has integrated drag'n drop distributed build support ;-)
00:33 < mnemoc> :)
00:33 < mnemoc> as distcc?
00:34  * mnemoc reading about xcode
00:35 < rxr> yes, like distcc or so ...
00:35 < rxr> apple hypes xcode - but i'm quite disapointed
00:36 < rxr> or better I'm since I saw it the first time im some apple store 10 months ago ...
00:37 < rxr> the editor sucks (highlighting, indenting, class browsing ...), internally gcc is used anyway, distcc exits, too - cvs and subversion support is in other suits, too ...
00:37 < rxr> so well - it is just apple's development "studio", and not the best one existing ...
00:38 < rxr> the only improvement I can see so far over gcc + some good editor is edit and go or continue or what the call it ...
00:38 < daja77> i do not like xcode 
00:38 < rxr> this is: when you compile your binaries in some special way you can edit the code while debugging,  click the compile button and continue debugging with the altered binary code wihtout a restart ...
00:38 < mnemoc> i don't get how an IDE acts like a distrubuted compileer
00:39 < rxr> of course this also only works if you do not change data structure layout and such (read in trivial cases ;-)
00:39 < daja77> and the bugs in gcc introduced by aplle are nice ^^
00:39 < rxr> it is just an option - you check the option, click other hosts into the list and off you go - the jobs are distributed to the other boxes like via distcc ...
00:39 < mnemoc> o_O
00:40 < mnemoc> rxr: does it support language plugins?
00:40 < rxr> I read apple even sells some compiler x-serve whatever farm ...
00:40 < daja77> that ide isn't that integrated as i expected it ...
00:40 < rxr> ouh - no idea how it is realized internally - this is just what I saw and read up to now - I have not used it extensivly and so ...
00:41 < daja77> <- used vim on mac
00:41 < rxr> daja77: I already concluded from the UI impression that it is not advanced over my linux toolchain as I use it ...
00:41 < daja77> hehe you are absolutely right
00:42 < rxr> I need a very powerful editor - and xcode does not offer it (althougzh of course Apple claims it is the best thing under the sun) - as I wrote above, highlighting, indentation, class browsing, ... are not on a lever I expect ...
00:42 < rxr> for the other integration I'll see in the next days how it goes into my way ...
00:42 < daja77> that editor is redicilous
00:42 < rxr> so /me off into bed (has a macosx day today ...) - cu all
00:42 < daja77> cu rene
00:43 < rxr> n8 all
00:43 < mnemoc> n8 rxr
01:14 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4269 /trunk/misc/archive/compare.sh: * introduce script (compare.sh) to compare rock-like trees
01:20 < martin_> n8 rxr 
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02:13 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4270 /trunk/package/develop/mono/mono.conf: * Build mono with boehm-gc only if boehm-gc is available
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03:11 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4271 /trunk/misc/archive/compare.sh: 
03:11 < CIA-2> * compare.sh now produce patches appliable to $source
03:11 < CIA-2> * compare.sh handles -qq to skip missing packages
03:11 < CIA-2> * compare.sh handles -S to ignore spacing changes and -P to ignore [P] changes
03:14 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4272 /trunk/package/security/chkrootkit/chkrootkit.desc: * chkrootkit updated to 0.44
03:15 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4273 /trunk/package/mail/bincimap/bincimap.desc: * bincimap updated to 1.2.10final
03:17 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4274 /trunk/package/mnemoc/runit/runit.desc: * runit updated to 1.0.5
03:18 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4275 /trunk/package/mnemoc/phppgadmin/phppgadmin.desc: * phpPgAdmin updated to 3.4.1
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03:44 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4276 /trunk/package/mnemoc/runit/runit.conf: * runit as default init if sysvinit is not installed
03:45 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4277 /trunk/package/mnemoc/socklog/socklog.desc: * socklog updated (1.4.2 -> 1.5.0)
03:47 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4278 /trunk/package/mnemoc/gtk-sharp/gtk-sharp.desc: * gtk-sharp updated (0.17 -> 1.0.2)
03:49 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4279 /trunk/package/develop/boehm-gc/boehm-gc.desc: * boehm-gc updated (6.2 -> 6.3)
03:50 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4280 /trunk/package/network/ipsvd/ipsvd.desc: * ipsvd updated (0.9.2 -> 0.9.6)
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03:55 < CIA-2> mnemoc * r4281 /trunk/target/mnemosyne/pkgsel/ (Console/X_basic_desires.ask Desktop/gnome.ask): * mnemosyne's plugins updated for gnome-2.8 and xorg
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04:33 < sparc-kly> hi
04:34 < CIA-2> jsaw * r4282 /trunk/scripts/functions: * another implementation of pkgsel for testing
04:34 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 
04:34 < mnemoc> supporting categories now?
04:42 < CIA-2> jsaw * r4283 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.conf: * gcc: create the correct kcc link (thers's no gcc-${ver:0:1})
05:15 < jsaw> hi mnemoc 
05:15 < jsaw> mnemoc: it's a bit more complicated to use, but it supports categories.
05:15 < mnemoc> hi jsaw 
05:16 < mnemoc> which is the grammar?
05:16 < jsaw> if it would be used in ./scripts/Config for example, it look like this:
05:17 < jsaw> ( pkgsel_init ; pkgsel_parse < config/$config/pkgsel ; pkgsel_finish ) > config/$config/pkgsel.awk
05:17 < mnemoc> o_O
05:17 < jsaw> the problem is, that repo and package are seperated by space, while categories contain /
05:17 < mnemoc> does it support for x in *; do pkgsel_parse < $x; done ?
05:18 < jsaw> if it's surrounded by pkgsel_init and pkgsel_finish: pkgsel_init; for x in *; do pkgsel_parse < $x; done ; pkgsel_finish
05:18 < jsaw> yes
05:19 < jsaw> but I still have to work on it... this is not the best solution yet.
05:20 < mnemoc> where should i add the instruction to 'flush' everything? { $1='O' }
05:21 < jsaw> before or after pkgsel_init
05:21 < mnemoc> good
05:21 < mnemoc> last question, can you add support to ^#   and empty lines on the parser? :)
05:22 < jsaw> lemma see...
05:22 < mnemoc> i guess it's a couple of [[ $line = ... ]] && continue :p
05:23 < mnemoc> i would like to have target/$target/pkgsel instead of sed inside config.in
05:24 < mnemoc> and that may need comments and empty lines to order it
05:24 < mnemoc> damn.... my eyes.......
05:24 < mnemoc> i need to go to sleep
05:24 < mnemoc> aaarg
05:26 < jsaw> :)
05:31 < CIA-2> jsaw * r4284 /trunk/scripts/functions: * make pkgsel_parse "comment and empty line" conforming
05:33 < jsaw> 2# echo -ne "#hello world\n\n\nX perl\nO extra/filesystem\n\n# comment ...\n" | pkgsel_parse
05:33 < jsaw> (  / [^/]*\/perl / ) { $1="X"; }
05:33 < jsaw> (  / extra\/filesystem / ) { $1="O"; }
05:33 < jsaw> mnemoc: that's okay?
05:36 < jsaw> <- getting a coffee
08:24 < martin_> moin
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08:59 < blindcoder> moin
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10:22 < esden> hi ho everyone
10:22 < esden> anyone alive? ;)
10:24 < esden> cu
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10:59 -!- Topic for #t2: T2, a preleminary name. Submit cool naming suggestions (without linux) here ;-)
10:59 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Oct  6 17:56:16 2004]
10:59 [Users #t2]
10:59 [ blindcoder] [ daja77] [ martin_] [ Ragnar0k] [ rxr_     ] [ tschmidt_] 
10:59 [ CIA-2     ] [ jsaw  ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr     ] [ sparc-kly] [ valentin ] 
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10:59 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug  8 21:15:33 2004
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11:13 < rxr_> moin
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11:14 < blindcoder> moin rxr
11:33 < rxr> oh my s*it f*cking ... ehrm?!?!? Why does the macosx terminal list the running process in the termnal title?!?!? Very performance eating running scripts lie configure anc do, flickering between sh, rm, sed, cat, ... and eating my CPU time ...
11:34 < rxr> click - disabled ...
11:36 < rxr> so - now building subversion for macosx ;-)
11:38 < daja77> ;)
11:51 < rxr> checkout of t2 running on macosx ... ;-)
12:58 < rxr> he partition map created with osx sucked majorly again ...
12:58 < rxr> even a 128MB gab in the middle ...
12:58 < rxr> I do not want to see the code of that partitionizer ...
13:14 < rxr> http://fotos.amayita.com/Anti_Microsoft/aaa
13:15 < valentin> rxr, lars says: use the gaps as linux swap
13:15 < rxr> yes, I did ;-)
13:15 < rxr> the 128MB gap got the bootsrap partition as well as 127MB swap ;-)
13:19 < rxr> but the nontheless the installer sucks anway ...
13:19 < rxr> s/installer/partitionizer/ ...
13:21 < valentin> http://fotos.amayita.com/Anti_Microsoft/aad
13:22 < rxr> hehe
13:29 < valentin> do you know the powerfull combination Windows CE ME NT ?
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13:41 < rxr> valentin: no - id not know that as powerful combination ...
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14:12 < rxr> hi sparc-kly 
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14:23 < CIA-2> rene * r4285 /trunk/package/powerpc/mac-fdisk/ (install-man.patch mac-fdisk.conf mac-fdisk.desc): 
14:23 < CIA-2> * reworked the mac-fdisk package
14:23 < CIA-2>  * fixed the downloaded, to be applied patch version number, so
14:23 < CIA-2>  the right patch is applied
14:23 < CIA-2>  * use the build system mechanism to apply compressed packages
14:23 < CIA-2>  (got rid of the .conf :-)
14:23 < CIA-2>  * commented our custom patch
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14:48 < CIA-2> rene * r4286 /trunk/package/powerpc/powerpc-utils/linux26.patch: * fixed powerpc-utils for linux 2.6 headers
14:53 < Sparc-kly|G4> moin
14:54 < rxr> moin Sparc-kly|G4 
14:54 < rxr> Sparc-kly|G4: do you have some homepage? *g*
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14:57 < Sparc-kly|G4> negative .. in this moment my dedicated server expire .
14:57 < Sparc-kly|G4> :( 
15:15 < rxr> project name: T square? ;-)
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16:40 < mnemoc> rehi
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16:50 < CIA-8> rene * r4287 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/genhd.patch: 
16:50 < CIA-8> * patched linux-header genhd.h for user-space use (this fixes e.g.
16:50 < CIA-8>  mac-fdisk)
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17:33 < CIA-8> valentin * r4289 /trunk/source/UpdateList.cc: * minimal change in UpdateList (need to wipe my partition...)
18:15 < CIA-8> jsaw * r4290 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/capi.patch: 
18:15 < CIA-8> * linux-headers: capi.h also needs compiler.h (one of many fixes for
18:15 < CIA-8>  isdn4k-utils)
18:15 < CIA-8> jsaw * r4291 /trunk/package/base/isdn4k-utils/ (4 files): * fix isdn4k-utils ... don't ask
18:36 < CIA-8> jsaw * r4292 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbd/ (dvbd.desc dvbt-7mhz.patch): * update dvbd to 0.7.5, remove patch, compiles.
18:54 < CIA-8> jsaw * r4293 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdvb/ (libdvb.conf libdvb.desc missing-cerrno.patch): 
18:54 < CIA-8> * update libdvb to 0.5.5 and add a small fix
18:54 < CIA-8> TODO: rename "dia" to sth. else maybe?
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19:49 < mnemoc> rehi
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21:20 < jsaw> damn, the gnome errors are not dependency errors but libtool screw-up
21:20 < daja77> O_o
21:21 < jsaw> libtool ... -rpath /opt/gnome28/lib ..., result:
21:22 < jsaw> gcc -shared ... -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/ROCK/src.29341097781577.12614.1097674113/pango-1.6.0/pango/.libs
21:23 < jsaw> argl, either build scripts interference or libtool screw-up... gonna be long long night...
21:23 < jsaw> *cry*
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23:42 < CIA-8> jsaw * r4294 /trunk/package/base/libtool/libtool.desc: * update libtool to version 1.5.8
23:43 < CIA-8> jsaw * r4295 /trunk/package/base/automake/automake.desc: * update automake to version 1.9.2
23:46 < CIA-8> jsaw * r4296 /trunk/package/develop/doxygen/ (doxygen.conf doxygen.desc): 
23:46 < CIA-8> * cleanup doxygen.conf
23:46 < CIA-8> * move priority of doxygen after qt is build,
23:46 < CIA-8>  so that the doxywizard can be build
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